10 Tips and Tricks for Private BitTorrent Sites
Written by sharky on March 23, 2008The first thing to notice when you join a private BitTorrent site is the eye-popping quality of the torrents. Each one is carefully culled, hand-picked through a strict moderation process. However, before you start hammering away on that download link - here are a few things you need to know.
On private torrent sites, everything revolves around ratios. A 1:1 ratio (or 1.0) means that you’ve downloaded exactly the same amount of data as you’ve uploaded. Thus a 0.80 ratio indicates that you’ve uploaded less than you’ve downloaded, which is hurtful to the health of the torrent. Inversely, a 3.0 ratio means you’ve uploaded 3 times more data than you’ve downloaded. Strive to achieve at least a 1.0 ratio - each site will have specific consequences for members who maintain a ratio of less than this. Attain a ratio over 1.0 and the rewards shall follow you into the P2P afterlife.
If you’re brand-new to a private site, it will be difficult in the beginning to acquire a 1.0 ratio. Luckily, users are given a ‘grace’ period to achieve this. Since there are so many more seeds than leechers (a total flip-flop from public BT sites), it becomes harder to upload to others - due to the fact that there are fewer people to share with.
So why go through all the trouble to keep an honest ratio? Because deep down, you’re an upstanding denizen of file-sharing society! Aside from that shameless pat-on-the-back, good ratios offer many perks, including an upgraded account on the tracker (i.e. VIP status), higher download speeds, free “invites” for your friends, and no waiting periods associated with accounts in arrears.
Here are Ten Tips to get your ratio in top-shape as fast as possible:
1. Start out with Smaller Files
Initially, opt for smaller (i.e. under 1 GB) files for downloading. This gives you a greater chance of someone coming along after you and downloading the same torrent (and you’ll be able to upload to them). Obviously a 700MB movie file will be more appealing to other site members than a 30GB ‘Blu-Ray’ rip.
2. Jump on the ‘Newly Released’ torrents
This is a great tip for increasing your ratio in a hurry. Camp out in your favorite private BT site, and refresh the torrent listings frequently. Newly added entries will have many more leechers than seeds, so you’ll be able to share (upload) more data. To maximize this tip, select smaller files - the “TV Episode” category works great for this.
3. Select Files that have a High ‘L’ or upload number
This is important. When selecting torrents, base your initial selections on a high number of leechers (the more, the better). This will ensure you have many avenues to upload to during (and after) the transfer. When starting out on a new private BT site, we would even go so far as to say that you should download torrents that you don’t want - just start grabbing torrents that have lots of leechers. Once your ratio get over the 1:1 (1.0) mark, delete them.
TIP: If one of your seeding torrents remains popular, leave it running in µtorrent permanently. This will always help to boost your upload ratio.
4. Avoid ‘Zero-Leech’ torrents
When you’re new to a private site, steer clear of the ‘zero-leech’ torrents - it is impossible to increase your share ratio when there are no other downloaders. When viewing a list of torrents, look for the “Leecher” column (or just “L”) and avoid anything that has a zero ( “0″ ) in it. After your account ratio has become relatively stable, now is the time to snag whatever you want.
5. Leave some tasks running in uTorrent
After the completed download of a torrent, leave the task running (as a seed) in µtorrent to increase your upload statistics. Don’t delete (or move) the files of a running task! You can, however, extract (unRAR) the files, or copy the files from one place to the next. In the event of a movie/video file - you’ll be able to “burn” or “extract” the *.avi file (or even play it on the PC) without affecting the seeding torrent.
TIP: Always keep a few things running as ’seeds’ in your BT client. If you notice that they aren’t uploading, replace them with newer ones.
6. Go for the ‘Freebie’ downloads
Many private sites will offer “free” torrents that won’t count against your download statistics (thus, your ratio will remain unchanged). Grab these freebies - especially when searching for torrents on a new account.
7. Use ‘Credits’ to purchase…
A popular feature among superior private BitTorrent sites is the addition of a ‘credits’ feature for account holders. Credits can be used to ‘purchase’ VIP status, increased sharing ratios and other perks. Not all sites are the same, but some credits can be acquired just from staying active in their IRC channel, or from just having the torrents available for download in your BT client.
8. Do NOT try to ‘cheat’ the Private Trackers
There are a variety of ratio cheating tips available out there, but don’t be tempted. Trackers are fairly sophisticated and ever-evolving. If you get caught cheating, you won’t even be warned - it’s a permanent ban for you and bye-bye for good.
9. Set a proper Upload Limit
Setting a proper upload limit in the BT client makes all the difference! You’ll want to supply a high enough limit to maximize uploading, but not have it eat into your download bandwidth. The general rule is to set it at 80 - 85% of your upload limit. To figure this out, visit www.speedtest.net and conduct the simple test. Results are shown in kilobits, so divide the result by 1/8 and then multiply that by 0.85. This will give you the proper number in KB/s (KiloBytes).
In µtorrent, go to OPTIONS > Preferences… > Connection and enter your upload rate. Click “Apply” and then “OK” to save the changes. While your in that same ’settings’ page, make sure to use a port number from the good list (e.g. 49152 - 65535).
10. And if all else fails…donate
Most sites allow for monetary contributions to keep up with the server costs. If you enjoy a particular site immensely but cannot seem to be able to approach a decent sharing ratio (due to turning off your computer at night, going to work, or sharing your computer with your kids, wife, husband or siblings), think about donating. In most cases even a not-so-generous gratuity will robustly affect your account status - plus you’ll feel good about helping out the BitTorrent community.
Other Tips - Follow ‘The Rules’
Yeah, we know: you hate rules! That’s why you probably moved out of your parents’ basement. Rules are probably why some turned to P2P.
Nevertheless, rules are an important aspect to private BT sites - they ensure healthy torrents and blazing-fast download speeds for all. Each site will have their “rules” posted - the link is usually not hard to find. Below are some general rules / tips that pertain to any private BitTorrent site:
Use an ‘Accepted’ BitTorrent client
Not all private trackers are the same - and each one has different rules in regards to which BitTorrent client is on the “allowable” list. Most sites recommend µtorrent, but only specific versions (or builds) of it. If you stick with v1.6.1 or the latest version v1.7.7 (recommended), you can’t go wrong with ANY private site (avoid any versions in between these numbers). And do not use BitComet on private trackers.
Proper BitTorrent client configuration:
Many trackers recommend that you disable DHT and Peer Exchange (PEX) in your BT client’s settings. To do this in µtorrent, go to OPTIONS > Preferences… > and select the BitTorrent tab. Remove the three checkmarks that pertain to DHT and PEX (see image below):
Do not ‘Hit & Run’ a Private BT site:
A ‘Hit & Run’ (or H&R) is when someone joins a private tracker, and downloads as much as they can before making off without uploading to a proper ratio. While this practice is frowned upon even on public sites such as mininova.org, it is deplorable to private sites. This can (and sometimes will) lead to your IP address being banned from the site - forever.
Stick within these guidelines for HAPPY Torrenting!
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197 Responses
a tutorial as a news item? must be cucumber time…
I don’t understand why you have to disable the DHT. I’ve never had problems with my ratio because of the DHT. The torrents on private trackers have DHT disabled. In addition, if you want to download an external torrent you might find out that without DHT enabled you won’t be able to connect to some peers.
Basically pay to leech your way to private torrent site heaven.
Most sites have their own, equivalent guides anyway.
Slow news day, huh? =]
(All good info, tho’…)
Happy Easter………………..
I dont like the point that if else.. donate… Thats not what the private torrent sites are about.. Donate if you like the project, never donate if you must.. This just makes private torrent sites the same as public sites.. Crappy users and terible community. Most of the guide rules are really simple and understanding, so thats good. However, is partial seeding illegal somewhere so its not mentioned? Thats the biggest trick of private sites. A REAL ratio booster. :)
I agree, if all else fails, DO NOT DONATE.
Donating is meant for the upkeep of the site. We all know that this is not always the case with private trackers.
If you’re going to donate, do it because you like the site and want to help, not because you want ratio credit.
good advice
Why can you not use Bitcomet?
of course, if you have 300K down and 40K up, and you download 24/7 — it is physically impossible to keep a 1:1 ratio!
Hell — If your download is a bazillion megs a second, but your upload is only 192kbps — you’re never going to be able to download faster than 192kbps without hurting your ratio, and having to seed back.
Of course, seeding back NEVER happens at maximum upload rate.
If you download a file in a day, expect to have to seed it for at least 10.
If you do this every day, expect your harddrive to fill up with all the files you are still seeding.
This guide is good, but completely unrealistic. If you want to download a dvd’s worth of data, every day — you are NOT going to be able to keep a 1.0 ratio.
Basically, sites that require 1.0 per person are unrealistic dickheads. There are some people who only download 1 or 2 files a week, then seed it forever. These are the ones who make it possible for others to scrape by with lower than 1.0 ratio. Trackers don’t consider this.
Trackers also don’t give you a ratio bonus for seeding a file if nobody else is downloading — which is wrong.
If I’m the last seeder on a torrent, I’m not going to get any upload credit, as there are no leechers. I leave.
If they were to give me a “passing the torch” credit for keeping the torrent alive (say, 2% of the total torrent size per day), then I would stay on the torrent.
2 months later, someone might come along, and be able to download it — because the ratio bonuses let me keep seeding it for credit.
But currently? There’s no encouragement like this. Thus, every torrent eventually dies. I’ve missed things simply because the torrent died within 2 weeks, and I came in within 3 weeks.
The bittorrent tracker paradigm is still FAR from perfect.
Anon -> Many private sites don’t allow that client because it is widely used as a cheat client ..
normaly it’s only Utorrent and maby Azureus and some linux clients ..
Guess nothings happening in the world of file-sharing then…
To C:
Thanks, never knew that.
Nice guide for n00bs, I would highly suggest #2.
I’ve found that the quickest way to build a little buffer is to be one of the first leechers on a popular new torrent. That alone can give you several GB buffers in a day.
I’m happy with mininova. I used to use what.cd (and oink.cd before that) but I have such a low upload speed (1meg compared to 24meg download) that i was continually downloading then seeding new stuff i didn’t want or need.
Private sites are too much effort. Stick to reputable uploaders like skirgsk, FXG, FXM, aXXo, dopeman and skullpatra on mininova, and you’re sure of quality and good speeds. I always seed these up to 2.5 because I repect them.
[quote comment="316985"]Why can you not use Bitcomet?[/quote]
It cheats the system, and goes against the “give and ye shall recieve” motto of bittorrent by trying in everyway possible to download as quickly as possible while uploading the absolute minimum, thus slowing the speed of the swarm. It also doesn’t superseed properly, resulting in corrupted uploads and hashfails .For these reason most private sites don’t allow it.
ADD 1.) parial downloading:
Randomly select to download only about 10-20% of files (if possible) in bigger torrent, that is leeched heavily but you dont want to download. You can get very good ratio then.
ADD 1.) partial seeding:
Randomly select to download only about 10-20% of files (if possible) in bigger torrent, that is leeched heavily but you dont want to download. You can get very good ratio then.
[quote comment="317012"]I’m happy with mininova.[/quote]
you have low standards. mininova is mostly slow as shit. everyone i know only seeds at 1k/s to public trackers and hits and runs everything. there’s no incentive at public trackers to seed. my bandwidth is too precious to waste on shit like TPB and sumo, i have to look after my private sites, and so does everyone else, which is why private sites are 10×10^10 times better.
Ah 1:1 Ratios. A retarded idealistic concept based upon pyramid scheme.
@18
Good thing private sites don’t require anything close to a 1:1 ratio to keep a basic account active then, right?
You forgot a very important tip to improve ratio on private trackers:
Upload your own stuff (according to the rules!)
Imo it’s the best way to improve someones ratio on private trackers :f
Not all private trackers allow utorrent 1.6.1
what’s a good private torrent server because i want to join!!!!
What a lame article. There are more clients than just utorrent. And disabling DHT and PEX? Do you know how private torrents work? Apparently not.
^ DHT wastes some bandwidth anyway, so unless you’re downloading some massive pile of shit of TPB with a million seeders who aren’t seeding very well, there’s no need to enable it.
also, sometimes, there’s some lamers who don’t tick the ‘private’ flag when uploading torrents to private sites, and if you’ve got DHT on a torrent from a private site you can end up uploading to a non member or cheating your ratio.
I would think that these tips would be common sense, but they are good tips nonetheless.
“also, sometimes, there’s some lamers who don’t tick the ‘private’ flag when uploading torrents to private sites”
You don’t need to tick the private flag, decent private sites add the flag automatically.
DHT doesnt waste any bandwidth dumbasses, also, if the tracker is enforcing private flag on torrents, having DHT enabled doent make the slightest bit of difference. All private trackerd that I know of have a banned client list, forcing all the peers on the tracker to use a client that honors private flag. With a client that honors private flag in combination with a tracker that enforces private flag, it is impossible to leech from either through DHT. The only reason that private sites would require that users disable DHT is because they are fucking morons that obviously dont know how to run a tracker, or have the slightest idea of how DHT and private flag works.
Another option: avoid private bittorrent sites like the plague they are!
I’m a a member of 5-6 private torrent sites… Not one of them REQUIRES 1:1
Get off tpb for 5 minutes and do some research torrentfreak.
I once knew a private tracker. Eventually they all became seargents and the tracker had to look for a new job. Information wants to be free. It doesn’t want to hide like a pussy. First we hid juice in the cellar and now torrents? No fangs.
In all seriousness… if you’re going to write a technical guide, do it properly. Give justification for what you do in the settings windows. DHT and so on can be extremely advantageous.
I would also suggest not recommending uTorrent- as shown by the fact that increasingly it’s being blocked (And just staying on old versions is asking for trouble, both security and feature-wise), the new versions are horrid and possibly full of talkback code. Azureus is by far one of the best clients out there, and even on public torrents I get in excess of 600kbps (I’m on 8meg UK internet) while uploading around 30kbps. On private sites there’s very little difference to how things work, quite honestly.
These 2 methods have gotten me 8.0+ ratios on very strict private trackers, trust me there is no quicker way of raising your ratio.
1. If the site allows user uploads, upload NEW torrents! This is the fastest way to get a high ratio. If it’s a music site upload v0 and flac rips. If you don’t have the cd, download flac rips and if there isn’t one yet convert it and upload it as a v0. The more popular the album the better.
2. If it’s a scene site that doesn’t allow user uploading:
Find a large torrent on your private tracker with many snatches and download it on a public tracker. Make sure it’s the exact size and exact files as the one on your private tracker.
Once the files are downloaded, download the torrent from the private tracker and set the download location to be the same as the file you downloaded from the public tracker.
correction:
Find a large torrent on your private tracker with many leechers/snatches and few seeds
i would rather see an article tipping how to get an invitation to a private site if you are a good upstanding 1:1 bittorrent citizen. =)
whats the point of file sharing when its private for some people. i like to share back but not to a selected people, but to the public. private torrents r fast, but u have to wait for peers to come to share back. and even when u share back the seed to peer ratio is high so u wont find enough people to get the ratio back again. its like 200 employees serving 2 customers. it defies the purpose of sharing back and downloading at hi-speed. it turns the members into servants instead of file sharers to the private network.
i download files from mininova, i seed back. i check the files on private trackers through btjunkie and download the public version of it.
DHT means you connect to people not only from the place (tracker), which you got the torrent from, but also from anybody, who is downloading this file anywhere on the net and is connected to dht network.
It increases your privacy risk a lot because antip2p people pretty much always monitor downloads through dht network, but you can also get many more normal sources too. So your choice.
From my experience using DHT with utorrent gives lots of bad hits, with Vuze lots of bad hits, with halite almost no bad hits, with bitcomet average number of hits, but I’ve not used it for ages as it is bloated as hell.
Gotta love the different opinions. Out of 28 posts, there’s 40 different takes on the situation . Me being me, I’m going to cloud the situation further.
1) Private Tracker sites are bad. Private sites are good. The two positions are not mutually exclusive. While a private sites locks out the general public, the private site I am a member of specializes in one type of content, which the vast majority of the universe isn’t interested in, and which is damned hard to find elsewhere.
2) Public Tracker sites are bad. Public sites are good. The two positions are not mutually exclusive. While a public sites allow everyone access, this means there is no consistency to the content, and that specialized torrents often die, as there is little general interest in them. Content that is not general interest is hard to find, and they tend to be over run with lowest common denominator torrents.
Me, I think that there’s a place for both types of sites. Each answers a need in the marketplace.
The present situation, where the torrent trackers are run by independents is in the public interest. Trackers run by commercial entities would tend to push those entities interests against the interests of the commercial entities, whereas the independents if they want their site to be popular act in the interests of the public, and generally give far better service to the public.
also u can grab a torrent off another tracker and seed it to your new 1 :D
I prefer open trackers where you dont have to maintain a ratio. Everything i want is on TPB anyway and i get about 10mbit/s there (20/2 line). I am a member of some private trackers but its only for a select few items i use them, so i could easily do without.
Another good tip:
When you start out, limit your DOWNLOAD speed to about what you are getting on your upload. For instance, I can download a torrent at 1mbs, but since I can normally only connect to enough peers to upload at 100kbs, I would limit my download to 100kbs, maybe even 75kbs.
That allows me to get my file, but still seed as it downloads.
Sorry, but I have to confess.
My up-bandwidth is very limited, but I can dl at speeds like 400-500kb/s (up only at 20-30kb/s). So as I couldnt care less about some Russian tracker etc. I just leech as long as I can, and when I get banned I just move to another one.
And when my ip is banned from every possible tracker, I request a new ip from my ISP, if thet haven’t already changed it. New ip, fresh sign-up.
I am now banned like 20 times from the same tracker :D Private trackers rules!
“Donate to the tracker” - Haha! Give me a break :D
“This can (and sometimes will) lead to your IP address being banned from the site - forever.”
This is a very misleading for the most users ans the most users have dynamically assigned IP addresses so all one needs to do is to disconnect and reconnect the Internet connection.
Of cause for people with static IP’s thats true but they are the very minority.
OMGZZZ!!! BUT HOW CANZ I GET MY AXXO RIPZ ON DA PRIVATE TRACKERS??? cAn sOMEONE GIVE ME AN INVITE TO A supER SECRET AXXO RIP PRIVATE TORRENT SITE??
None of those tips are helpful when 8 out of 10 users have seedboxes. One way or the other you end up paying. Either you get a seedbox or you pay (or donate if you want to call it that) for the privilege of downloading.
OMGZZZ!!! BUT HOW CANZ I GET MY AXXO RIPZ ON DA PRIVATE TRACKERS??? cAn sOMEONE GIVE ME AN INVITE TO A supER SECRET AXXO RIP PRIVATE TORRENT SITE??
AXXO HASNT RELEASED ANYTHING FOR MONTHS AND ANY NEW RELEASES WITH HIS NAME ON ARE FAKES TRY BTRACS FOR A LIST OF PRIVATE SITES OPEN TO SIGN UP
DHT doesnt hurt private trackers at all. DHT is almost essential if you use public trackers though, because not all available peers are present on 1 particular tracker. If you have 250 seeds spread across 5 different trackers then you want to hedge your bets, that means using Peer Exchange or DHT. I never disable DHT, and I have also never had a problem using a private tracker with it enabled. The argument that it some how is a security risk is absolute crap. Your just as likely to come across a bad peer on 1 tracker as you are from another tracker through DHT.
Private sites dislike DHT and Peer Exchange for 1 reason and one reason only, its a threat. With both there is no need for a central tracker. Peers can share amongst themselves without the need for an almighty overseer keeping tabs on everyones ratio. Fact is with clients like Azureus and utorrent, you dont need a tracker, and with Azureus, you can use your own built in tracker further removing the need for reliance on a site. Set up correctly, and with minimal knowledge you could run your own closed community far more secure than any private site can offer.
All this would be great If you could get an invite to the good sites. With demonoid gone I have NOTHING! I’m begging in the cyber back alleys for an invite and getting spat on by the lucky citizens how have had fortune shine upon them.
[quote comment="317162"]None of those tips are helpful when 8 out of 10 users have seedboxes. One way or the other you end up paying. Either you get a seedbox or you pay (or donate if you want to call it that) for the privilege of downloading.[/quote]
I have a sweet ratios on multiple private sites with nothing more than a plain jane residential cable connection. My friend who invited me to Oink reached over 75 gigs upped with a 56k modem! He did it by uploading his own torrents.
It is dead simple to maintain good ratio on private sites if you upload your own torrents. No need to buy a seedbox. No need to donate. Just share your stuff.
Yeah and how many private sites are going to give uploader status to someone on dialup? Oink was the exception to the rule as it had no prerequisits to becoming an uploader. Most sites I can think of wont even consider you for uploader if your upload is under 1mbit. And even then you have to compete with losers that have seedboxes and nothing better to do than sit on a torrent till 100:1 before fucking off and leaving everyone else to need to seed for a week.
[quote comment="317178"]Yeah and how many private sites are going to give uploader status to someone on dialup? Oink was the exception to the rule as it had no prerequisits to becoming an uploader. Most sites I can think of wont even consider you for uploader if your upload is under 1mbit. And even then you have to compete with losers that have seedboxes and nothing better to do than sit on a torrent till 100:1 before fucking off and leaving everyone else to need to seed for a week.[/quote]
I can’t speak for every private tracker, but I had uploader status from day one on the following private trackers with no bandwidth or any other prerequisites or requirements:
Oink
Waffles
What
BitMeTV
BitMe
Karagarga
Goem
IndieTorrents
I’d recommend using Azureus to control Upload and Download when you join a new private site. But that’s just a personal client preference as it’s got more tweakability.
“limit your DOWNLOAD speed to about what you are getting on your upload”
BAD advice.
“Try to seed at least as much as you’ve downloaded.”
GOOD advice.
It may look effectively equal but it isn’t. Think about it.
Bitsoup.org FTW!
[quote]
Thus a 0.80 ratio indicates that you’ve uploaded less than you’ve downloaded, which is hurtful to the health of the torrent. Inversely, a 3.0 ratio means you’ve uploaded 3 times more data than you’ve downloaded. Strive to achieve at least a 1.0 ratio - each site will have specific consequences for members who maintain a ratio of less than this. Attain a ratio over 1.0 and the rewards shall follow you into the P2P afterlife.
[/quote]
I call BS on that!
Why does everyone say that?!
There is NOTHING wrong with a 0.8 ratio! It is logically impossible for everyone to have a ratio >1.0. Having too many people with extremly high ratios hurts the network just as much as the opposite.
This can currently be observed on what.cd! - Its nearly impossible to upload anything there, you’ve got to keep torrents running for MONTHS!
Why doesn’t anyone else understand this?!
LOL
People without any clue what they’re talking about pretend to know it all!
54, logically impossible? Only if you let torrents die.
Anyone got a waffle or what invite? I lost both my accounts when the pig was slaughtered and the demon exorcised… Dimodae@gmail.com
LOL @ the article writer:
While this practice is frowned upon even on public sites such as mininova.org, it is deplorable to private sites. This can (and sometimes will) lead to your IP address being banned from the site - forever.
hahahah ohes noes imma git mai ip b&
This only affects those who have static IPs or can’t figure out how to use TOR or a proxy. I fucking do this all this time and also cheat the trackers and I LOL when they try to ban me. As if there aren’t 9000 more private sights anyways…
private sites = serious business LOL
54: “Why doesn’t anyone else understand this?!”
You’re the one who’s to dumb to do it right! LOL
i’m on some private sites which don’t allow overseeding. if you seed to a ratio higher than 3.0 you’ll get a warning. i think this is very importent so everyone can get a good ratio. on the other hand, the speed could be compromised.
IMHO, a closed-network variant of Gnutella makes more sense for private groups than BitTorrent. Especially because spam - Gnutella’s worst (or even only) problem is a non-issue in such an environment. In fact I think for any kind of long-term sharing something like Gnutella is better. BitTorrent is good for initial publishing where you know that lots of people will be interested in something at a certain time. For example the newest episode of some series or whatever else recently released. Keeping large collections - like libraries - alive and seeded is too much of a hassle and overhead.
[quote comment="317210"]LOL
People without any clue what they’re talking about pretend to know it all!
54, logically impossible? Only if you let torrents die.[/quote]
It is logically impossible, because the average ratio over all peers must be 1.0:
amount uploaded overall = amount downloaded overall
=> For everyone with a 2.0 ratio there have to be two other people with a 0.5 ratio (or 10 people with a 0.9 ratio, or whatever, do the math).
If everyone on a torrent had a ratio greater 1.0, there’d be more data uploaded than downloaded on that torrent. Now tell me: How’s that possible? Right, it’s not!
Just think it through before ridiculing other people. Thx.
PS: The same logic aplies private-site-wide! Thats why i never complain about someone having an overall ratio of 0.7 or 0.8. This may be the person that enables me to have a ratio greater than 1.0.
“If everyone on a torrent had a ratio greater 1.0, there’d be more data uploaded than downloaded on that torrent. Now tell me: How’s that possible?”
1. Endgame mode.
2. Buggy software.
@62 - The average of all uploads and downloads with the private tracker must be 1. But, if you download off of another tracker as stated above, your ratio can be higher without “decreasing” the ratios of others.
11) do not allow yourself to be born in a country where unlimited download limits are essentially impossible to get
Without a doubt the lamest “tutorial” i’ve ever read. not once does it even suggest uploading your own stuff to increase your ratio. pathetic
Haha, I fuckin’ leech like fuck. i downloaded 1.5TB from cheggit since Xmas, uploaded less than 50MB. Now they’re bring in ratio/banning but so what? i just change my ip address and let some other sucka waste their time uploading. gimme the fuckin’ WAREZ! I am the LEECHA L33T
This must be the worst tutorial in history.
Made by a n00b most likely.
SCT sucks!
[quote]whats the point of file sharing when its private for some people. i like to share back but not to a selected people, but to the public.[/quote]
Exactly, I don’t want my bandwidth going to help out some elitist private tracker person, I’d rather use it to help everyone. I seed to one person, they give it to someone else, it’s like a chain (though in reality it is more of everyone giving pieces to everyone else, not to just one person, but still).
[quote]AXXO HASNT RELEASED ANYTHING FOR MONTHS AND ANY NEW RELEASES WITH HIS NAME ON ARE FAKES TRY BTRACS FOR A LIST OF PRIVATE SITES OPEN TO SIGN UP[/quote]
http://www.mininova.org/user/aXXo
[quote]@62 - The average of all uploads and downloads with the private tracker must be 1. But, if you download off of another tracker as stated above, your ratio can be higher without “decreasing” the ratios of others.[/quote]
Remember the original uploader though. They didn’t download it, only upload it.
[quote comment="317258"]Haha, I fuckin’ leech like fuck. i downloaded 1.5TB from cheggit since Xmas, uploaded less than 50MB. Now they’re bring in ratio/banning but so what? i just change my ip address and let some other sucka waste their time uploading. gimme the fuckin’ WAREZ! I am the LEECHA L33T[/quote]
Hahahaha Nobody cares. We all just think your a douchebag. Quit bragging and go back to leeching, ya dick.
[quote]Results are shown in kilobits, so divide the result by 1/8 and then multiply that by 0.85. This will give you the proper number in KB/s (KiloBytes).[/quote]
Divide by 1/8? Is that really what you mean? I think you mean “divide by 8″ or “multiply by 1/8.”
W
[quote comment="316971"]I don’t understand why you have to disable the DHT. I’ve never had problems with my ratio because of the DHT. The torrents on private trackers have DHT disabled. In addition, if you want to download an external torrent you might find out that without DHT enabled you won’t be able to connect to some peers.[/quote]
You don’t have to.
NEVER disable DHT or Peer Exchange. If a tracker goes down (and they all do at times) DHT will help you find peers without the need of a tracker. As said above, torrents from most private sites have the DHT disabled anyway. Keeping DHT enabled in your client doesn’t do any harm to private trackers and it will keep other torrents that are DHT enabled alive and able to connect with you. There’s been many a time I’ve been able to complete a long dead, tracker-less file merely because the original torrent file was DHT-enabled so the few peers with it still in their client can find each other.
Aside from the DHT part, the article is a good basic primer for those wishing to try private sites.
Yeah that math is wrong. It’s X * (1/8) * .85.
I’d love to add my n00b comment to this n00b article, but unfortunately, I’m NOT a n00b like the writer or half of these other posters are.
Word of advice to all those reading - use Google and do some ACTUAL research, taking what TF advises with a grain of salt. There is much more content available on all the public sites vs private, which makes you ask yourself, “why bother with private?”
I’ve got a 5.8 ratio on one private site, and 3.5 on the other - do I use them much? Nope! I use PizzaTorrent and YouTorrent to find everything I need, and it’s never let me down since I started using it.
NOTE TO TF: You need some new writers who:
a - have a clue as to what they are talking about, and therefore don’t have to;
b - pretend like they do!
This site is going downhill fast…
I PWNZ ALL TEH N00BZ!
I cheat at all the private trackers I use, they cannot catch me. You can try but a simple IP change within seconds and I’m back. Fuck Torrentleech.
Don’t feed the trolls.
https://feedthe.net/
this state the obvious…. :/
another tip… don’t download if you arent gonna watch it/use it…
That will grant you a nice ratio soon…. :P
I use several private torrent sites and building a good ratio isn’t that hard. A 0.5 ratio is all that most sites require. Just be careful to maintain an acceptable ratio starting out and seed all torrents for at least 48-72 hrs. Take advantage of freeleach and double up periods. If you like the site donate some money. You will get nice perks and help the site cover server costs. Read the rules/faq of any private site that you join.
I agree with 54 and 61. Everyone wants to achieve ‘elite status’ by having an 0mg0nz0rz ratio over 1.0, so all everyone does is upload and seed. Very few download, and when they do it’s when the site admins put a/some torrent(s) on free leech, then practically the whole site goes and downloads that in hopes of being able to seed it later. It’s a catch 22, really. Speeds are really fast, but with no one downloading, people who are in it for the fundamental purpose, that is, to share (Not just one way, but bi-directional, give and receive, the principle of bit torrent), get screwed in the end due to bad ratios. Then what do the elite bastards at the top say? To upload new torrents. There’s nothing wrong with this, don’t get me wrong, but to say this in the aforementioned situation only gets the community in deeper shit.
I’ve already seen a few private sites that I was part of become victim to this and were ultimately shut down. It naturally affects infant private sites, in which members quickly try and upload as much as they can (Whether or not it is really theirs, but usually that doesn’t matter) so that they can achieve ‘elite status’ and be regarded as a regular member there from its early days. All the new users do this, refusing to download and keep the ‘economy going’, so then the new members who intend on doing the /actual/ thing that the site was designed for, sharing (not achieving elite status), get fucked over because as much as they download, the elite greedy bastards just get higher up with their ratios, the poor members then turn around expecting to share what they have just downloaded with others, only to see that no one else is downloading.
Bit Torrent is like an economy, guys. You have to keep it flowing. What would happen if a few richest people in the world kept all the money they got, that is, they didn’t spend it on anything, they just kept it. They would keep receiving money, more and more, but they wouldn’t spend. Think about it.
The ratio system is fundamentally flawed. There’s the issue that it’s supposedly impossible to have everyone in a site have a ratio of over 1.0, the discrimination of speeds. What if your upload speed is lower than someone else’s? But this system is the best we have right now, and some sites acknowledge that this system is flawed and so they try to help out the people that are being affected, be it by relaxing ratio requirements, implementing point systems, or something else. My argument isn’t necessarily with the ratio system, it’s with the culture that surrounds it, the desire and urge to get the highest ratio for reasons of prestige.
I find that even with huge ratios in your favour, private sites with bad admin will stick kick you off and provide no good reason as to why you were booted.
I was recently kicked from a site for having 2 accounts on 1 IP. On a wired network of 1 PC and 1 user - me! When I quizzed the support team about it, I was told quite rudely that it wasn’t their problem and I should just leave. My 109 gig of “credit” gone just like that.
So, its public trackers all the way for me, unless the staff are half-decent - in which case I’ll seed for them as much as they need me to.
I want to upload files to a friend in Costa Rica, and can’t figure out how. I’m old. That’s usually advantageous for many accomplishments, large experience base and all, but stodgy and cumbersome in this particular case, where you kids rule! It doesn’t seem as simple as what I’ve been able to glean from the few self-help sites I’ve found. Anyone care to help with suggestions other than gfy? ‘Would greatly appreciate it!
The whole idea of bittorrent is tit for tat sharing. Leeching is not possible without giving back proportionally to demand.
Private trackers achieve nothing other than forcing people to seed files even where demand is low. If nobody wants the file, and the original uploader is no longer interested in seeding it in the first place, why bother?
Note: You don’t divide by 1/8th - but you can multiply by 1/8th or divide by 8!
#82 - I think that’s why many private sites limit the users to, say 10,000 or even less. When you look at the tracker stats, you can see they aren’t anywhere near server capacity. Keeping it small keeps them out of the spotlight, regardless of the “private” aspect to these sites.
Also, so many people are hell-bent on keeping a huge ‘buffer’ which is totally useless when the site folds. Totally pointless, IMHO.
I would love a waffle or what invite if anyone is feeling generous..
even bitsoup if someone might?
thank you
byroncoughlin@gmail.com
“3. Select Files that have a High ‘L’ or upload number”
This can be dangerous advice - many large torrents on private sites have ‘partial seeders’ that are listed as leechers. ie. users who are seeding 1 episode of a season pack, etc - they are listed as leechers, but aren’t.
It’s a very common mistake for new users to get themselves in a hole by grabbing these torrents.
Wow, I am surprised at how many ignorant/lazy people post comments on this site. I really don’t know why I should be surprised as the US education system is probably the worst of any developed nation…I’m assuming most posters are from the US?
Anyway, it’s obvious that most of those who comdemn private trackers and their strict rules have neither used a quality private tracker nor did any kind of research on the subject (it might take 5-10 min). There are numerous reasons that private trackers exist, following are some of those reasons:
- increased security (perceived)
- limited bandwidth (small server)
- a general desire for consistency in quality and new content (likely reason #1)
- highly specialized content (AOM, anyone?)
- “forced” sharing - ratios (this thread proves that there are quite a few leechers out there)
Now, this is only a small list of the many reasons why a tracker should choose to remain private. These reasons have absolutely nothing to do with elitism. On the contrary, I would argue that most trackers are the exact opposite with vibrant and helpful communities.
one thing to note, when i refer to a private tracker, I generally mean those that are invite only. Open signups kind of defeat the purpose of a private community, as anyone can still sign up, thus compromising (perceived) security and possibly lowering the overall quality of the site. I wholeheartedly agree that private trackers are necessary (if only to fill a niche) and this guide, though a little misinformed, is generally good in schooling new members in good torrenting etiquette.
I know there are many of you who claim to be able to get the latest and greatest files off of public trackers. That’s perfectly fine, but there are still many people who want to max out their line downloading the latest episodes, movies, etc. Both serve a purpose, but please people do a bit of research before posting such ignorant rubbish. It hurts my eyes and brain to have to read anything that looks like it has been written by an illiterate child. Sorry, if I sound insulting, but I can’t believe their are so many people out there that would fail to read this post in its entirety to figure out that perhaps I am only joking or maybe checking to see how many will read the entirety of this post after reading the initial inciting paragraph. Well, I guess we’ll see if anyone bothers to respond.
In any case, decent article for those with no familiarity to private trackers and it must have been a slow news day.
I’m on a handful of privates and the most important bit of advice is RTFM! So many little freaks turn up leech their boots off and then you see them in the shitlist forum “Boo hoo, why’d I get banned and shitlisted?”, ‘cos Mummy and Daddy never told you “you get ought for nought”, you gotta give to receive, it’s called being a responsible and caring member of a community.
Sorry, but 5 mins to read the trackers rules when you do get in, will save you so much grief. You little leeches, don’t you think that some of the private SysOps (there’s an old term! ) talk to each other? You get banned in one you never know, but your little old IP might well be doing the rounds on a tracker blacklist, think about it…
[quote=Fuzzypig] I’m on a handful of privates and the most important bit of advice is RTFM! So many little freaks turn up leech their boots off and then you see them in the shitlist forum “Boo hoo, why’d I get banned and shitlisted?”, ‘cos Mummy and Daddy never told you “you get ought for nought”, you gotta give to receive, it’s called being a responsible and caring member of a community.
Sorry, but 5 mins to read the trackers rules when you do get in, will save you so much grief. You little leeches, don’t you think that some of the private SysOps (there’s an old term! ) talk to each other? You get banned in one you never know, but your little old IP might well be doing the rounds on a tracker blacklist, think about it…
I’m on a handful of privates and the most important bit of advice is RTFM! So many little freaks turn up leech their boots off and then you see them in the shitlist forum “Boo hoo, why’d I get banned and shitlisted?”, ‘cos Mummy and Daddy never told you “you get ought for nought”, you gotta give to receive, it’s called being a responsible and caring member of a community.
Sorry, but 5 mins to read the trackers rules when you do get in, will save you so much grief. You little leeches, don’t you think that some of the private SysOps (there’s an old term! ) talk to each other? You get banned in one you never know, but your little old IP might well be doing the rounds on a tracker blacklist, think about it…[/quote]
QFT
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“so divide the result by 1/8 and then multiply that by 0.85. This will”
Math problem. [(number shown)/(1/8)]*.85 == (number shown)*8*.85
https://feedthe.net/
SCT SUCKS!
85 Mar 24, 2008 at 03:26 by AlphaseeQuote Alphasee
Note: You don’t divide by 1/8th - but you can multiply by 1/8th or divide by 8!
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by the way division by 1/8 is multiplication by 8, basic non-us high school math :P
it is still wrong and does not convert to kb though ;]
Pay 2 Leech? Great guide.
If anyone is still in the holiday mood, I’d like an invite to either BitSoup or feedthe.net:
ekpyotic@gmail.com
Rr…sorry, that is:
ekpyrotic@gmail.com
https://feedthe.net/
Post your e-mail for an invite.
cool one
http://www.viewmablogs.blogspot.com/
[quote] zero ( “0″ ) [/quote]
LOL!!!!!
I usually keep my radio up to 10.0!
My tip is not to seed new torrent, but old! Ever wanted to download a old movie with 1 seed, and you wait days for it…
There are some old and popular torrent that are worth seeding.
I have files with ratio like 85.0 (and it’s a 400 MB file not a small crack/keygen).
Yeah, small crackz usually give you good ratio, because lots of people will download.
#83 - Have you tried a free service like Rapidshare or Megaupload? Depends how large the files are, but that way you can upload them overnight, send your friend the link and he can download them whenever. I think the limit on those sites is usually around 100 MB, but if you use a program like WinRAR to compress your files, there should be an option to split it into separate archives, 100 MB each, that can then be combined once all are downloaded.
i do hit&run, i use bitcomet on private trackers, my ip is different each time and i don’t give a fuck about you hippies from private trackers!
Leach 4 life!
I make lame re-encodes because I am a n00b. Torrentleech sucks and is a pay to leech scum site. FUCK w00t + NEO!
https://feedthe.net/
1 Invite left.
i got a 1mbps line.
how in the name of fuck am i meant to upload 1:1!
took me EIGHT FUCKIN DAYS to get that COD4 iso…..fair fucks to razor1911 by the way..guys are legends.
and what the fuck is with all these cunts knockin TPB?
guys saved my fuckin life!
they tried to buy Sealand, they helped form the Swedish PP, and they really FIGHT for p2p rights, they dont leave shitty comments on TF.
brokep for president.
sunde can be the minister for justice.
Ask yourself this.
Do the Admins of your private sites actively defend you, and send fuck you letters to lawyers?
[quote comment="317423"]OFFICIAL aXXo Forum: http://www.aXXoForum.com/quote
Fuck you randy saaf!
That site is 100% A fucking trap by MD or RIAA
I’m inclined to shy away from any torrent site that operates a policy of pay or you’ll be banned. To me that isn’t what file sharing is all about. The operators of the site aren’t providing the files that are shared yet they are dictating ultimately as to who gets to share them. Maybe they should seek the advice of the seeder to see how they feel about banning “members”?
I’ve seen some member sites that offer absolutely no possibility for anyone to maintain a ratio of 1.0 or more as there are simply no leechers and I have thought on occasions that maybe they adjust their published statistics to extract cash from the unsuspecting - but then that would be dishonest so perhaps I should retract that suspicion. Ultimately though we always have to remember though that we have a choice and these things should not become an obsession.
I do understand that servers have to be maintained though and I realise that cash has to be raised by some means, however, this in many cases seems to be done through advertising and contributions.
I also think that the circumstances of individuals have to be considered too and that bandwidths are many and varied and in some cases seeding a file completely would be impractical if not impossible.
For me public sites suit my needs and I do seed back but I can sympathise with those who due to their circumstances cannot.
I am aware of the community aspect of some member sites however and have been a member of one for years but they seldom offer anything that I couldn’t get in the public area and I mostly go along for the chat.
As I said, in my opinion filesharing should be kept as easy and as accessible as is possible to encourage more and more people and any form of restriction or control should be avoided. Well, that is, unless you have a need for really obscure or unusual pr0n/movies/music/tv series.
BTW #89 I only skipped through your “comment” but I think you’ll find that “their” should be “there” just after the illiterate child bit.
Torrentleech = Pay 2 Leech scum site.
https://feedthe.net/
Can anyone recomend some private torrent sites????
[quote comment="317569"]Torrentleech = Pay 2 Leech scum site.
https://feedthe.net//quote
is that supposed to be ironic? ratio is easier to come by on TL than FTN…
Gallus
Look at you morons who are members of private torrent sites thinking your top shit, bottom line who gives a flying f**k, i get all the files i want and need from public ones without a problem, the only reason you cum snorters use those private sites is so you can sit around and think your in some exclusive club, NEWS FLASH your not, you can get all the same content if not more from public sites, there has not been one thing i have been after that i have not been able to get on public sites.
[quote comment="317597"][quote comment="317569"]Torrentleech = Pay 2 Leech scum site.
https://feedthe.net//quote
is that supposed to be ironic? ratio is easier to come by on TL than FTN…
Gallus[/quote]
Explain how it would be ironic? Torrentleech is pay to leech scum, do you disagree?
https://feedthe.net/
Usenet FTW!
ratios suck! Reminds my of private FTP sites in the late 90’s. I’ve been banned 5 times from audionews.ru and i did my best to follow their rules. People with fast upload speeds should also be banned for having ratios OVER 1.0 so us slowpokes get a chance to seed up our ratio.
fuckers
aeroflotanc.at.hotmail.com
O my god what a bunch o whining gits we have on here……. If youve got issuses with private trackers and keeping a ratio…its simple Don’t bloody sign up to one. What some of you all fail to understand most of the torrents u guys use come originally from private trackers as many sceners upload there first off then lets the general public leech from them. eg Moviex. Wait before you all start moaning about moviex and all the articles youve read on the site….most of the bad press youve read is crap. try actually going to the sites and checking them out before bitching about things you know nothing about and just rehash crap youve been told…it appears that most of you who state your not n00bs….actually are and are very misinformed. if it wasn’t for private trackers….wellllll most of you wouldnt ever get what your looking for…….
Personnally i prefer RS MS etc……… to torrents but i always give back to the torrent community.
O i’m sure all the users of tpb know of Loder……..guess where he likes to make camp……O Yeah moviex (founder…one of)……
there many private trackers that are excellent. and as for ratio….if you can’t keep a ratio of 0.8 or above …..your just lazy. My 11 yr old managers it fine.
Peace…..
Download.
Seed.
enjoy.
GOOD LUCK MOVIEX WITH MOVING SERVERS
T1
Need a good ratio on a private tracker?
If they have a XXX section it’s easy.
Download 3-5 new movies. Now leave them seeding for a week. Most XXX torrents have leechers for many weeks;)
It seems that anyone on these forums who speaks in support of or represents moviex comes over as an aggressive hot head who just rants and raves without actually saying anything (except that everyone is stupid except them). If membership makes you this way then I really wouldn’t want to join. We were told last December (Dec 1) on this forum, and there was a lot of discussion over, how moviex trackers leech for their members but don’t seed back - how can anyone support that philosophy (well I guess except moviex members)? I always delete moviex trackers if I ever see them since hearing that piece of news and will continue to do so.
lmao
should have added to the tips.
“only for idiots who have no clue what there doing”
not to mention one of the best private torrent sites out there does not have a ratio system and its still supremely fast in regards to download speeds and pre times.
and @ the guy who said sceners rls to private trackers first, get a grip for gods sake.
the “scene” hates p2p with a passion you numpty, the scene releases on any tracker private or not have been stolen from the scene.
lol most of you ppl have no clue about what your bitching about, comical to say the least.
/me waits for some 12 year old to tell me I am a noob :lol:
Some dumb sites require a ratio of great than 1:1 to keep your account. How can everyone do that? So you have to cheat, I simply seed the torrent to another machine on my network.
Ever since I first started using BitTorrent, the attitude that “leechers” (AKA peers) suck and should be looked down upon has baffled me. Sure, seeders are great, but who are they seeding the file FOR?
Without “leechers”, the seeders are just sitting idle with nobody downloading from them.
I’m not saying that everyone should just be allowed to download and never upload, but enforcing strict ratios is just silly.
Even in the old days of local BBS’s, most with ratios had a 2 for 1 policy; Upload one file, download 2.
For myself, I don’t belong to any pricate sites because I don’t want to have to jump through hoops to be able to download what I want. I don’t have a huge amount of space on my drive for storing tons of files to seed and I’m hesitant to leave files seeding, which might end up getting me sued by the MPAA and/or TV networks.
[quote comment="317569"]Torrentleech = Pay 2 Leech scum site.
https://feedthe.net//quote
bnb2011@gmail.com
Another tip to gain upload:
Grab the new torrents on the site but download *only* the last few files.
This will generate not much download , but lots of upload.
[quote comment="317134"]Another good tip:
When you start out, limit your DOWNLOAD speed to about what you are getting on your upload. For instance, I can download a torrent at 1mbs, but since I can normally only connect to enough peers to upload at 100kbs, I would limit my download to 100kbs, maybe even 75kbs.
That allows me to get my file, but still seed as it downloads.[/quote]
I might add, that in uTorrent at least, when changinf d/l speeds (or u/l for that matter) remember to stop the torrent and THEN restart it to effect the change. Otherwise it’ll keep the original speed….
[quote comment="317699"]Some dumb sites require a ratio of great than 1:1 to keep your account. How can everyone do that? So you have to cheat, I simply seed the torrent to another machine on my network.[/quote]
HAR! I’ve done that! I have two IPs at home, too. Very effective.
@dave73
i never stated that the scene rls to the torrent networks just to private tracker sites etc……many of these have DD links…….the members then create their own torrent of the scene release……. i know this as i’m a member of a number of sites where the scene groups are members too and add the rs ms etc links. this is fact.
@dave73
if you still think i’m talking rubbish i surgest you ask a few scene groups about this to get it straight. i’m in contact daily with many the scene groups only fact u got straight was the fact they hate p2p.
Rekrul:
Because those are the people who take the risk. you don’t get busted for downloading, you get busted for letting people download from you.
That is why people who intentionally leech without uploading are failures. Not that they give a crap of course, and this isn’t the realm of law where much can be done about it.
Private sites are the only way to go!!anyone who does not agree is just pissed off cuz no one will invite them to one ..lol
Actually everyone’s obsession with 1:1 ratio serves no purpose.
First, it doesn’t improve overall health of torrents. Sure, people seed popular ones as long as possible but the fact of life is that even on public sites someone always seeds any popular torrent.
Second, it leads to massive waste of traffic when people d/l so-called “free” torrents which they don’t really need just to improve ratio. Or when they upload it to themselves as was described here.
In the end it hurts ISPs, it hurts trackers, it hurts users. Everyone is at a loss.
We need to face the truth: 1:1 ratio isn’t needed, because there’re always dedicated uploaders with 100Mb uplinks. They tend to become mods or VIPs so they get their benefits. But for your usual Joe with his highly asymmetric ADSL 1:3 is more than enough.
SCT and FTN sucks.
Both owners are very Greedy.
Fucking greedy and forcing everyone to donate.
TL is much better then SCT and FTN.
FUCK YOU FTN and long Live to IPT and TL.
got to agree with prodigydancer
[quote comment="317753"]got to agree with prodigydancer[/quote]
gotta love those swedish lol
Hi i had a quick question, i have comcast and i think they limit my upload speed for torrents. I use Azureus and my total download speed will reach 1M/sec but my upload load will only be like 5kb/sec, will this hurt my connection later in the future i dl the majority of my torrents from the pirate bay. I’ve noticed that i only dl a file at a time now and the rest of the torrents remain in queue Any help would be nice. thanks
[quote comment="317751"]SCT and FTN sucks.
Both owners are very Greedy.
Fucking greedy and forcing everyone to donate.
TL is much better then SCT and FTN.
FUCK YOU FTN and long Live to IPT and TL.[/quote]
Long live IPT and TL?
LMFAO you must be a fucking lamer to chat shit like that.
english lesson for all you kiddies on here:
‘there’ pertains to a place i.e. ‘ i would like to go there ‘ or ‘ set that basket over there ‘
‘they’re’ is a contraction of ‘they’ and ‘are’ i.e. ‘ they’re going to the store ‘ or ‘ they’re a bunch of dolts’
‘their’ is possessive i.e. ‘kick their ass’ or ‘their dog is a killer’
do you get it now?
[quote]
how in the name of fuck am i meant to upload 1:1![/quote]
If you can’t take the time to upload 1:1, don’t download it.
[quote]Ever since I first started using BitTorrent, the attitude that “leechers” (AKA peers) suck and should be looked down upon has baffled me. Sure, seeders are great, but who are they seeding the file FOR?
Without “leechers”, the seeders are just sitting idle with nobody downloading from them.
[/quote]
They don’t mean leechers as in people downloading the file. When people say “leechers suck”, they mean people who download and don’t seed back.
[quote]i never stated that the scene rls to the torrent networks just to private tracker sites etc……many of these have DD links…….the members then create their own torrent of the scene release……. i know this as i’m a member of a number of sites where the scene groups are members too and add the rs ms etc links. this is fact.[/quote]
Gasp, a leet scener who can’t spell out release, but instead says rls.
[quote] english lesson for all you kiddies on here:
‘there’ pertains to a place i.e. ‘ i would like to go there ‘ or ‘ set that basket over there ‘
‘they’re’ is a contraction of ‘they’ and ‘are’ i.e. ‘ they’re going to the store ‘ or ‘ they’re a bunch of dolts’
‘their’ is possessive i.e. ‘kick their ass’ or ‘their dog is a killer’
do you get it now?
[/quote]
liek wut do i ned gramr 4???///?zorz
Yeah, it’s pretty annoying all the people (or “ppl” in their language) like that.
This isn’t grammar school you n00bs.
I think some of the rules on private tracker sites go completely against the philosophy of “Sharing”. It’s extremely hard for people with restricted (low) bandwidth to meet the demands asked of them. As for donating? Why on earth would I want to give money to the Russian mafia? They are just as greedy as the music and film companies.
To change the culture and bring about fairer prices for data/information, we should be sharing publicly (on sites like TPB) rather than hiding like cowards behind the walls of private sites.
“cucomber time” :-)
[quote comment="317804"]This isn’t grammar school you n00bs.[/quote]
Well, it should be. No one is going to give your opinions much weight or even thought if one has to wade through an ocean of spelling and grammar mistakes.
There’s quite a few here that need a good solid rap to the knuckles with the ruler. Now use your head for more than a hat rack and tighten up your postings.
Class dismissed. :P
educational, reading this…
only just now began to understand the torrent thing, all I wanted was the last episodes of startgate sg1…download to azer. 76%, wouldnt play on any player, ’sorry windows media, (etc.) has experienced a problem and has to close…’
using satellite, limited to the amount i can use. slow upload, don’t even know how to…so by the time I download, even if it worked, which it didn’t, and I upload enough to ‘pay back’ I’ve come close to using my limit, given that I use my pc for other things also…
Guess my point is, torrent just isnt gonna work for me?, I wonder how many others are in the same boat? And I wonder if a library could be established amoung many pprivate sites, a central repository, so that those with fast speeds and a large collection and time and generosity could contribute, just for all the pcmorons like myself, and the leetches.
and, where is a tutorial? is there a way to compress a show so it wouldnt use so much bandwidth? and how to do it? I have access to many channels, no equipment or knowledge, but I have no problem with uploading when I have the time, if it doesnt use much of my monthly allocation.
long post, just a real newbie… a link to how where with who…
stumbled on this place from a lead in diggs…thanks.
Actually if anyone is going to take you seriously, you need to stop acting as if you are better than everyone else. If you want to educate people about their grammar become a teacher. But you most likely don’t have the social skills to step outside of your basement to make strides in life, that’s why you feel the need to fulfil your aspirations on the internet. How sad, I feel extremely sorry for you.
Hay Stuffies, is that 1 invite still going?
Can i give it a try.
My email is jamin990@fsmail.net
Cheers
[quote comment="317733"]Rekrul:
Because those are the people who take the risk. you don’t get busted for downloading, you get busted for letting people download from you.
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True, however with most P2P clients, it’s not possible to download without uploading as well. Even if you only have a small portion of the file, you’re still listed as one of the sources for that file and that’s enough to get you busted for distribution of copyrighted material.
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They don’t mean leechers as in people downloading the file. When people say “leechers suck”, they mean people who download and don’t seed back.[/quote]
Maybe so, but there have been many times that I have seen “peers” (people who don’t have a complete copy of the file) referred to as “leeches”.
Most torrents from MovieX give me the error message “Leeching forbidden! You are only allowed to seed.”
[quote comment="317733"]Rekrul:
Because those are the people who take the risk. you don’t get busted for downloading, you get busted for letting people download from you.
[/quote]
True, however with most P2P clients, it’s not possible to download without uploading as well. Even if you only have a small portion of the file, you’re still listed as one of the sources for that file and that’s enough to get you busted for distribution of copyrighted material.
[quote comment="317800"]
They don’t mean leechers as in people downloading the file. When people say “leechers suck”, they mean people who download and don’t seed back.[/quote]
Maybe so, but there have been many times that I have seen “peers” (people who don’t have a complete copy of the file) referred to as “leeches”.
Most torrents from MovieX give me the error message “Leeching forbidden! You are only allowed to seed.”
I’d love a feedthe.net or waffle invite. ~300gigs of shit on extra drives ready to be seeded 24/7 on a dedicated box.
menekali@gmail.com
let me know!
It’s simple - of course not everyone can have 1.0 or better ratio, but that’s no reason why not aim for it. If you get there - great, if you fall a little short (0.8 for example) - still good, if you’re lagging way behind (0.1) - stop downloading and spend some time uploading. 1.0 is a very good goal in the beginning as it’s easily reachable and teaches the user to hold the balance between seeding and leeching, it’s way harder once you’ve downloaded 300+ gigs.
Personally I have nothing against public trackers, but let’s face it - it’s no fun to upload to them. You make a torrent and start seeding, what’ll you get after sitting on the torrent for a week? Eighter 100+ leechers while you’re still the only seeder or (and that’s even worse) 2-3 seeders beside you with several dozen downloaders, while the torrent has been snatched like 20 times. The ratio system on private sites *motivates*, those downloading have a reason to seed back, the only thing keeping people seeding on public places is their concious which, obviosly, ain’t making too much noise by such a thing as pirated movies ;)
I was never a fan of private sites/tracker such as moviex.info, i allways remove theyr track from my torrents and add the public ones, if they want a private tracker then they should release theyr own torrents and share themselfs, i think that is kind of stupid for people that are not registered there to be forced to seed to the registered ones and never get the download done.
Sometimes the torrent just sits there seeding forever and never finishes downloading, until some saint seeder decides to stay as long as we need to complete.
Look here all you people who suck at the Internet- Using torrents is frowned upon among ’sceners’ and release groups; and release groups, by the way, are the friggin’ Internet Gods who disseminate most of the ripped/cracked/hacked stuff that you all enjoy so well. Release groups cannot stand torrent sites because they draw attention to ‘the scene’ and this attention is what causes law suits, investigations from tumbling dick-mouths like the RIAA; and, ultimately, this attention leads to less of what we all want to DL (episodes of Golden Girls, etc…).
And so, in conclusion, Bittorrent licks the underside of my taint. So what should you use? Youse guys shoue use USENET!!!!! Usenet Usenet Usenet. Legal systems worldwide can barely touch Usenet.
Sweet Dreams,
Pat McCrotch
[quote comment="317597"][quote comment="317569"]Torrentleech = Pay 2 Leech scum site.
https://feedthe.net//quote
is that supposed to be ironic? ratio is easier to come by on TL than FTN…
Gallus[/quote]
Obviously you haven’t been on FTN in a while, or you would know that ratio hasn’t existed there for quite a while. And all the people asking for an invite can keep asking, because invites have been closed down since the beginning of the year.
Actually, it is hypothetically possible that everyone on a site has a 1.0 ratio, because the accounts of pure leechers are constantly being pruned. Thus, those with extremely low ratios are removed from the site and everybody else can have 1.0. Sure this is only hypothetical, but it still makes it fairly easy to keep a decent ratio when you realize that there are always noobs who don’t know how to keep a decent ratio.
dummies, just buy your axx from a scener
http://axxo-release.blogspot.com/
…so divide the result by 1/8 …
No. To get the kilobytes from the kilobits you should divide by 8. Or alternatively multiply the result by 1/8.
help pay Troys mortgage! donate to bmtv!
[quote comment="317091"]Azureus is by far one of the best clients out there, and even on public torrents I get in excess of 600kbps.[/quote]
Azureus is slower to start up the swarm, therefor much slower when it comes to small torrents (such as music), and is horrible when it comes to memory utilization.
It also corrupted my RAID driver.
I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.
check this out
http://radonadi.blogspot.com
Or sometimes download newly released torrents from public trackers and add the private tracker url to the finished torrent. This way you get your upload stats but you’ve downloaded from a public one. I use this most of the time with new torrents.
Tip 11. Don’t be the kid in the candy store when you get on a private tracker.
Really FTN and SCT Sucks
Pay2leech trackers.
but for real, FTN really sucks. Pre time sucks also, not reasonable. LoL
I don’t feel like reading through all the comments to see whether or not someone mentioned it, but all the private sites I know of will change the settings on all uploaded torrents to enable the private flag. Because of this, it doesn’t matter whether or not you remove the PEX, DHT, etc. settings in your client. These should be kept enabled so that they may be used with public sites.
What others have mentioned is right… partial seeding will really help your ratio.
BE CAUTIOUS IN THE BEGINNING UNTIL YOU BUILD A GOOD BUFFER.
[quote comment="317930"]what’ll you get after sitting on the torrent for a week? Eighter 100+ leechers while you’re still the only seeder or (and that’s even worse) 2-3 seeders beside you with several dozen downloaders[/quote]
Usually it’s better than this. For established torrents S:L ratio is about 1:10, which is more than enough if you remember that leechers aren’t all at 0%, so most of them can upload as well.
The ratio system on private sites *motivates*, those downloading have a reason to seed back, the only thing keeping people seeding on public places is their concious which, obviosly, ain’t making too much noise by such a thing as pirated movies ;)[/quote]
I’m sorry but practice shows otherwise. That’s my torrent on TPB:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4014340/Apocalypto.2006.720p.BluRay.x264-ESiR
Why doesn’t it die? Why there’s always 1:10 S:L whenever I check it? What am I doing wrong? :-)
[quote comment="317982"]those with extremely low ratios are removed from the site … fairly easy to keep a decent ratio when you realize that there are always noobs who don’t know how to keep a decent ratio.[/quote]
It’s double standard isn’t it? :-) You use them when you need them for your ratio but you spit on them because they’re oh-so-horrible-leechers.
When the community will finally understand that it’s leechers who keep the whole thing running, the world will become a slightly better place. :-)
mane tai uzpisa tas lietuviskas trakeris bet ka padarysi
[quote comment="318285"]Really FTN and SCT Sucks
Pay2leech trackers.
but for real, FTN really sucks. Pre time sucks also, not reasonable. LoL[/quote]
LMAO!
Just STFU you stupid n00b. Go back to Torrentleech aka pay 2 leech scum site.
@menikali…waffles invite…? jason@youreyesmydreams.com
;)
[quote comment="317549"]https://feedthe.net/
1 Invite left.[/quote]
Holy shit stuffies wtf you playin’ at mate? :)
fuck I hate torrentfreak so much.
fuck off torrentfreak.
I Like Turtles!!!!
OK PEOPLES!! YOU GUYS are Killing
with this “DHT”
“DHT” is only good if the tracker is Off-Line or the Site is down like demonoid, “DHT” will work off the seeders & peers that are out there on the net, -Period!.
Ok ya, if you hate to lose your Ratio to a JUNK! torrent. will next time you start your download **Before the program ie:uTorrent** change the tag “/announce” to “/scrape” and Your Private Site wont know you downloaded that torrent!!! [why? fuck'em] if not play the “Ratio-Game”….
Edit**********
**Before the program ie:uTorrent**
updates to the tracker change the
tag “/announce” to “/scrape” and Your Private Site wont know you downloaded that torrent!!! [why? fuck'em] if not play the “Ratio-Game”….
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TIP!!!*********
DONT DO IT EVERYTIME! BE SMART!…
[quote comment="317093"]These 2 methods have gotten me 8.0+ ratios on very strict private trackers, trust me there is no quicker way of raising your ratio.
1. If the site allows user uploads, upload NEW torrents! This is the fastest way to get a high ratio. If it’s a music site upload v0 and flac rips. If you don’t have the cd, download flac rips and if there isn’t one yet convert it and upload it as a v0. The more popular the album the better.
2. If it’s a scene site that doesn’t allow user uploading:
Find a large torrent on your private tracker with many snatches and download it on a public tracker. Make sure it’s the exact size and exact files as the one on your private tracker.
Once the files are downloaded, download the torrent from the private tracker and set the download location to be the same as the file you downloaded from the public tracker.[/quote]
+1 Great advice this is exactly how I got my ratio up
I saw something similar to this!
http://pluking.blogspot.com
Ever heard of free leech???
You must upload and stay connected. We don’t care if your ratio is 19:1, you must upload and stay connected!
Writer you r noob, who cares if you get banned.
1.Create new email account just for new private tracker account
2.Change your ip by disconnecting wait a few minutes, reconnect, if you have static ip you SOL.
3.Clear browser cache out, I do this in between sites in case a sight has been hacked so they can’t steal login info from site you just came from, don’t wait all the way til you close your browser or you could get got.
Booyah, new account!
@153: thanks dude, i needed a good laugh,
peace
This how-to sux. It just promotes what i believe is wrong with private sites.
Anyone who isn’t a teeny-bopping sheep downloading the latest fad gets bumped off. I for one would like to see more sites crediting seeders of quality instead of crap. I’m not filling my HD with mindless drivel just so i can continue to download material that can broaden my intellect.
187 Mar 26, 2008 at 23:24 by hit&run proQuote hit&run pro
Writer you r noob, who cares if you get banned.
1.Create new email account just for new private tracker account
2.Change your ip by disconnecting wait a few minutes, reconnect, if you have static ip you SOL.
3.Clear browser cache out, I do this in between sites in case a sight has been hacked so they can’t steal login info from site you just came from, don’t wait all the way til you close your browser or you could get got.
Booyah, new account!
187, your an idiot, most sites now are “invite only” So it is not that easy just to create a new email plus refresh your ISP, it will take sometime before someone invites you again. Plus you are a failure to the privite communities.
@ ClintJCL
qoute =
If they were to give me a “passing the torch” credit for keeping the torrent alive (say, 2% of the total torrent size per day), then I would stay on the torrent.
2 months later, someone might come along, and be able to download it — because the ratio bonuses let me keep seeding it for credit.
But currently? There’s no encouragement like this. Thus, every torrent eventually dies. I’ve missed things simply because the torrent died within 2 weeks, and I came in within 3 weeks.
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1, most private sites now have a seeder bonus points system running - that gives you upload credit for seeding when there are no leechers.
Example - Karma point system, give you seeder bonus points that you trade for upload credit.
2, Torrents do not die after 2 weeks.
They are deleted after 4 weeks or 672 hours if the torrent is classified as dead ( no seeds or leechers )
Most sites ask you to seed back to a ratio od 1-1 or 72 hrs.
This is to ensure that a torrent is well seeded and can offer a faster download speed because there are many seeders.
wow, very nice and useful. Thank you.
you guys realise that theres alot more on public sites than private right? im on a few private ones, but find i download more on public sites anyway.
they have limited range on private AND only appear maybe 24 hours before public sites. clearly you have to shop around a little as not all public sites have the same stuff.
but ask yourself, is it worth all the trouble to maintain this profile on a private site, just to get the exact same file a little earlier? im gonna go with…no.
needing a ftn invite robbi_mj@bigpond.com
too many public tracker NOOBS in this thread cheaters and leechs stay on public trackers where you belong. I have never see so many retards post before.
I’ve only every used public site such a mininova.
But seeing as I am downloading a lot of my media now I would like to join a private site for faster speeds on larger files.
Can anyone recommend a good site to join?
ps I always seed all my DLs until the leechers drop right down. Or until I have to delete the whole file to gain some storage space back.
Pay to Leech S*cks DonkeyBalls, if i want to pay to leech i will give my money to RS.. BitTorrent it’s all about filesharing, TorrentBytes Forever!!
a lil late i know…but fuck trackers that ban ur ip…spoof ur mac addys, power cycle ur modem to aquire new ip addy (yes this is for broadband connections)and ur good to go, or use a proxy…see ways around any rules :P
Dont divide by 1/8 as thats the same as multiplying by 8… rather divide by 8.
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