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		<title>By: ..:: SheepWorld Dont be one of the Herd ::.. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers</title>
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		<dc:creator>..:: SheepWorld Dont be one of the Herd ::.. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been reporting recently on the plight of QuebecTorrent which is currently tied up in a legal battle against the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zwartbaard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-398226</link>
		<dc:creator>Zwartbaard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been reporting recently on the plight of QuebecTorrent which is currently tied up in a legal battle against the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-397842</link>
		<dc:creator>CRIA Orders ShutDown of What.cd, Other Major BitTorrent Trackers &#124; TorrentFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been reporting recently on the plight of QuebecTorrent which is currently tied up in a legal battle against the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Delmate</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-392866</link>
		<dc:creator>Delmate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>going like its going they will win the way they like

not letting the other part defend them self by killing them with money pressure

if you look at this month quebectorrent donation this i exactly what is going to happend 

ill go donate a 50$ to this site... not for the site cause i dont use it but for p2p around canada and world

i think you should do the same so this poor admin can defend the p2p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>going like its going they will win the way they like</p>
<p>not letting the other part defend them self by killing them with money pressure</p>
<p>if you look at this month quebectorrent donation this i exactly what is going to happend </p>
<p>ill go donate a 50$ to this site&#8230; not for the site cause i dont use it but for p2p around canada and world</p>
<p>i think you should do the same so this poor admin can defend the p2p</p>
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		<title>By: Pivotal Canadian BitTorrent Showdown Looming&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-372021</link>
		<dc:creator>Pivotal Canadian BitTorrent Showdown Looming&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IPblog &#124; Intellectual Property Law in Canada &#187; Copyright Law: Two to Watch</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-366158</link>
		<dc:creator>IPblog &#124; Intellectual Property Law in Canada &#187; Copyright Law: Two to Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the QuebecTorrent caseÂ (a lawsuit by the canadian recording industry against an online file-sharing site) is reportedly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: p2pvine.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-364875</link>
		<dc:creator>p2pvine.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pivotal Canadian BitTorrent Showdown Looming...&lt;/strong&gt;

In three months time, the Canadian music, movie and TV industries will unleash their combined legal might on a little known BitTorrent tracker. A true David and Goliath battle, the QuebecTorrent case is one that Michael Geist says is &quot;worth watching...</description>
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<p>In three months time, the Canadian music, movie and TV industries will unleash their combined legal might on a little known BitTorrent tracker. A true David and Goliath battle, the QuebecTorrent case is one that Michael Geist says is &#8220;worth watching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IIRC</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-363204</link>
		<dc:creator>IIRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...didn&#039;t Canada legalise personal piracy a while back? Shouldn&#039;t these dipwads have no legal legs to stand on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;didn&#8217;t Canada legalise personal piracy a while back? Shouldn&#8217;t these dipwads have no legal legs to stand on?</p>
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		<title>By: AND if i cant get a media company to honor a contract</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-363202</link>
		<dc:creator>AND if i cant get a media company to honor a contract</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>then i say we should be allowed to get stuff via bittorrent until htem media noobs learn to at minimum keep the deals they make.
Having bell breech contracts left and right is one thing but rogers is no better and neither is any other way you can get your tv so i download it via the net.

we need a change a gov&#039;t and if them wanky liberls don&#039;t do it we need ot get rid of pc party and liberal party for good
vote ANYTHING BUT Liberal and Conservative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then i say we should be allowed to get stuff via bittorrent until htem media noobs learn to at minimum keep the deals they make.<br />
Having bell breech contracts left and right is one thing but rogers is no better and neither is any other way you can get your tv so i download it via the net.</p>
<p>we need a change a gov&#8217;t and if them wanky liberls don&#8217;t do it we need ot get rid of pc party and liberal party for good<br />
vote ANYTHING BUT Liberal and Conservative</p>
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		<title>By: Kambulow</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362785</link>
		<dc:creator>Kambulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would now rightfully like to see the provisions that made DPI (deep packet inspection) by ISPs to be made illegal not just by the CRTC but also by the federal government now too, including many of the bad acts of Bell, the Big Brother&#039;s false invasion of our home, personal privacy. Since we can readily know that the reasons given for the internet downloading inspections, capping are unjustifiable, what are the actual reasons now for these online now inspections too? 
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/?s=bad+bell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would now rightfully like to see the provisions that made DPI (deep packet inspection) by ISPs to be made illegal not just by the CRTC but also by the federal government now too, including many of the bad acts of Bell, the Big Brother&#8217;s false invasion of our home, personal privacy. Since we can readily know that the reasons given for the internet downloading inspections, capping are unjustifiable, what are the actual reasons now for these online now inspections too?<br />
<a href="http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/?s=bad+bell" rel="nofollow">http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/?s=bad+bell</a></p>
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		<title>By: JN</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362536</link>
		<dc:creator>JN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big movie guys just want to win somewhere  / anywhere. When they finally do, it&#039;s to set the basis on future cases. They don&#039;t even care where as long as sooner or later they get lucky. They pick on the weak to get the win. Then it will scare off some of the stronger from fighting. 

Woe be the day when they score some kind of victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big movie guys just want to win somewhere  / anywhere. When they finally do, it&#8217;s to set the basis on future cases. They don&#8217;t even care where as long as sooner or later they get lucky. They pick on the weak to get the win. Then it will scare off some of the stronger from fighting. </p>
<p>Woe be the day when they score some kind of victory.</p>
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		<title>By: MyDentify Business Directory &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Canadian Tracker Scheduled For Summer Attack From Media Groups</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362520</link>
		<dc:creator>MyDentify Business Directory &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Canadian Tracker Scheduled For Summer Attack From Media Groups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Court of Justice three months hence to give the enemy its comeuppance, reports Enigmax of TorrentFreak. Or attempt to, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: K3nt</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362460</link>
		<dc:creator>K3nt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop sueing people and make content!
Kthxbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop sueing people and make content!<br />
Kthxbye</p>
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		<title>By: Fugazi</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362202</link>
		<dc:creator>Fugazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfortunate that there is all this legal drag on file sharing. In my opinion file sharing cannot be decided upon in court. It&#039;s not a legal issue. It&#039;s a social issue. In court you can present legal arguments. But if the laws are fucked up already they don&#039;t provide the oportunity to argue in a broader, more sensible way.

You know what? I don&#039;t give a shit whether linking to some file that presumably contains copyrighted material might be infringing on some company&#039;s intellectual property. This is completely irrelevant legal brag. It bores me to death.

If it turns out to be illegal to link to a file then we&#039;ll link to a ton of distributed files that contain little &quot;fair use&quot; pieces of the copyrighted material. We put them together on our computers to watch movies, listen to music and play games. And then? And then &quot;fair use&quot; will become illegal. And then we&#039;ll invent something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that there is all this legal drag on file sharing. In my opinion file sharing cannot be decided upon in court. It&#8217;s not a legal issue. It&#8217;s a social issue. In court you can present legal arguments. But if the laws are fucked up already they don&#8217;t provide the oportunity to argue in a broader, more sensible way.</p>
<p>You know what? I don&#8217;t give a shit whether linking to some file that presumably contains copyrighted material might be infringing on some company&#8217;s intellectual property. This is completely irrelevant legal brag. It bores me to death.</p>
<p>If it turns out to be illegal to link to a file then we&#8217;ll link to a ton of distributed files that contain little &#8220;fair use&#8221; pieces of the copyrighted material. We put them together on our computers to watch movies, listen to music and play games. And then? And then &#8220;fair use&#8221; will become illegal. And then we&#8217;ll invent something else.</p>
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		<title>By: 3z3</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362187</link>
		<dc:creator>3z3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the same, Canada needs to lock in a clause for P2P into the Copyright act. Something along the lines of distribution for the purpose of voluntary promotion among fans. This, &quot;it&#039;s fine to download and burn it but not share it over the internet&quot;, garbage needs to be fixed up.

Either way, I haven&#039;t downloaded much music from artists in Canada anyway. Seeing as nearly all radio stations play U.S. music anyway, it&#039;s difficult to get that kind of promotion unless you sign on with an evil label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the same, Canada needs to lock in a clause for P2P into the Copyright act. Something along the lines of distribution for the purpose of voluntary promotion among fans. This, &#8220;it&#8217;s fine to download and burn it but not share it over the internet&#8221;, garbage needs to be fixed up.</p>
<p>Either way, I haven&#8217;t downloaded much music from artists in Canada anyway. Seeing as nearly all radio stations play U.S. music anyway, it&#8217;s difficult to get that kind of promotion unless you sign on with an evil label.</p>
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		<title>By: Milkman Dan</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-362128</link>
		<dc:creator>Milkman Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The copyright laws in Canada are actually very odd as they are written.  A lawyer on a TV show explained how they applied to music sharing.  

It is perfectly legal to download a copy of a song.  It is also legal to burn that copy on a CD, put it on an iPod, or just listen to it on your PC.   It is illegal to share the digital copy with someone else (such as with a P2P application), but it&#039;s perfectly legal to burn it to CD and give the CD to a friend (!).  

None of that applies to movies, games, TV shows, and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The copyright laws in Canada are actually very odd as they are written.  A lawyer on a TV show explained how they applied to music sharing.  </p>
<p>It is perfectly legal to download a copy of a song.  It is also legal to burn that copy on a CD, put it on an iPod, or just listen to it on your PC.   It is illegal to share the digital copy with someone else (such as with a P2P application), but it&#8217;s perfectly legal to burn it to CD and give the CD to a friend (!).  </p>
<p>None of that applies to movies, games, TV shows, and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: h33t</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-361822</link>
		<dc:creator>h33t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>torrents are metadata they cannot be copyrighted

if you interpret the current law to outlaw torrents then you also outlaw google and systems which permit 3rd party links

the digital revolution is underway and we are not even close to the outcome

traditional copyright principles do not apply to digital media because of important economic principles:

1. can it be easily replicated? YES
2. can it be easily substituted? YES
3. is it sustainable? NO

here is a rule which is incontrovertible

A. (outside of the USA) the law will never make an ass of itself

http://www.h33t.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrents are metadata they cannot be copyrighted</p>
<p>if you interpret the current law to outlaw torrents then you also outlaw google and systems which permit 3rd party links</p>
<p>the digital revolution is underway and we are not even close to the outcome</p>
<p>traditional copyright principles do not apply to digital media because of important economic principles:</p>
<p>1. can it be easily replicated? YES<br />
2. can it be easily substituted? YES<br />
3. is it sustainable? NO</p>
<p>here is a rule which is incontrovertible</p>
<p>A. (outside of the USA) the law will never make an ass of itself</p>
<p><a href="http://www.h33t.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.h33t.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobbo</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-361804</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;361371&quot;]For a minute I thought about making my first donation to anything ever.

But then I thought about all the people who are suffering in the world, and how selfish it would be to give what little extra money I might have to such a self-serving purpose.[/quote]
So u kept it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="361371"]For a minute I thought about making my first donation to anything ever.</p>
<p>But then I thought about all the people who are suffering in the world, and how selfish it would be to give what little extra money I might have to such a self-serving purpose.[/quote]<br />
So u kept it?</p>
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		<title>By: Stage11</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-361724</link>
		<dc:creator>Stage11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thougth;

they say that linking to unauthorized content is copyright infrigment, because when you link it, you are a part of making it available for unauthorized distribution.

BUT!, making copyright material digital is also a way of making it available for unauthorized distribution. So in the bottom end, they, the record companies, can blame itselves for making it available for unauthorized distribution by creating digital version of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thougth;</p>
<p>they say that linking to unauthorized content is copyright infrigment, because when you link it, you are a part of making it available for unauthorized distribution.</p>
<p>BUT!, making copyright material digital is also a way of making it available for unauthorized distribution. So in the bottom end, they, the record companies, can blame itselves for making it available for unauthorized distribution by creating digital version of it.</p>
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		<title>By: @$$&#124;-&#124;0&#124;3</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/2008-080427/#comment-361706</link>
		<dc:creator>@$$&#124;-&#124;0&#124;3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those anti-piracy idiots deserve DEATH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those anti-piracy idiots deserve DEATH!</p>
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