Comments on: 3-Strikes Law to Disconnect French Pirates

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:43:07 +0000

This is going to be funny! Someone just have to use the same method, which the researchers used to get MPAA to send cease-and-desist letters to printers, only we have to fake all ip-ranges from france. In that way an entire country is going to be blocked off the internet due to idiot politicians.

By: blah

blah — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:08:10 +0000

Ill say it

SWING and a miss LOL.

When no one is left on the net and your country becomes a bunch a morons due to lack of intelligence then we shall see how life is and what jobs you can do.

Oh wait they want you stupid….

By: IrelandGetOutOfEU

IrelandGetOutOfEU — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:08:10 +0000

And this only because those irish retards didn’t want to give more power to E.U.

By: yellapieman

yellapieman — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:34:21 +0000

niniff.com/?YIT

By: you know (@ 86)

you know (@ 86) — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:44:38 +0000

there’s too many intolerant [nationalists] and misinformed people who go on torrentfreak……look at the Canada and the Swedish news comment posts for example. 83 is just one of them.

By: @ 83

@ 83 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:13:46 +0000

It’s very nice to see how your government’s poor propaganda worked on you.
I hope you’re proud.

Btw, the synarchy is a long dead movement, which would tend to prove our prejudice about americans is right (I guess it’s ok to abuse your petty way of thinking)
And last but not least, speak french like I speak english, and then you’ll be allowed to talk about “welcome when I visit your country”, redneck.

By: question mark!

question mark! — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:54:50 +0000

question: can encrypted p2p connections evade this 3 stricke rule?(not allowing legacy connections),if it is true than we all shall encrypt our connections at once!

By: nWo

nWo — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:31:15 +0000

Well guess i feel sorry for any one who uses OVH and Kimsufi servers, lol.

By: Your to blame!

Your to blame! — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:36:37 +0000

Google…. French Synarchy.
WW2 was a long time ago but France still has to admit what they did, like most of the world already has. That’s why they ppl don’t like them now.
You are nasty to us when we visit your country, not just gov. French ppl bring it on themselves.

By: reality

reality — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:32:25 +0000

The truth is that the world is ugly.
Time and time again it has been shown that countries in Europe vote against their people wishes why?
The USA is the world power and rules everyone right now. He who has the gold makes the rules. People in USA turn a blind eye to their government because life is good and they are fat dumb and happy. Seems like people don’t want to admit reality. The USA is the winner in the global competition. This will continue until people unite and fight the power, but right now it doesn’t go much further than complaining. People in Sweden and France need to stand up and fight for their rights and freedoms.

By: Monster_mack

Monster_mack — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:42:26 +0000

I am truly very sorry for everyone who did not vote for sarkozy, and now have to stick with him.

By: @24

@24 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:33:53 +0000

No class actions in france -> we’re fucked

sieg heil is the next worldwide motto, i’m afraid.

nazis have won in the end :/

By: justaskstupidq

justaskstupidq — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:04:45 +0000

what is riaa by the way? is it like musically-religious organization? who are all these lawyers?
-why they are spying on everyone? why use of usb drive is ok to transfer files, but internet is not? why libraries have still available cds and dvds?

By: fuzzypig

fuzzypig — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:35:26 +0000

No the internet shouldn’t be lawless, so how about getting off your fat, fecking backsides and finding these child-abusing scum that are allowed to have access, nailing them first?

Oh sorry, you mean you only want to go after people who cause financial ruin for multi-millionaires, sorry I thought you mean people who screw other’s lives up so badly, they never got a chance to start life properly…

By: Ice

Ice — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:46:35 +0000

I think this right for a country who’s french president is spending 90% of his time screwing his girlfriend and traveling with her around the world “To hell with France and french people” seems to be his motto.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:44:06 +0000

case “$subject” in [Pp]ol*) rm -rf — “$subject”;; esac

By: lol

lol — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:48 +0000

“police the internet” lmao

By: as for democracy

as for democracy — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:03:49 +0000

In my view, there can only be true democracy when people did what the Athenians did, vote on each issue directly, but then there is logistical issues, mob rule issue, the fact the public can easily be swayed by advertisements now (not that politicians can’t be swayed by greed)

Until then, I’d rather call it “republic”

I just refer to “joys of democracy” to outline the irony.

By: karma....are you so misinformed?

karma....are you so misinformed? — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:01:25 +0000

Can’t completely cross off the “supporting nazi” before WWII, but:

Why was there the Maginot line?
Why was there the little entente?
Why were the french so insistent on reparations after WWI to the point where there was rapid inflation in Germany?
Loaning money to Germany helped jump start the economy. When the circle of money stopped (by the US stock exchange) Germany fell into depression (and old crazy nazi’s came into power)

They probably were more worried about communism (but that was part of why the BRITISH appeased the Nazis, not FRENCH.)

English incorporates? Are you so arrogant?

Did they incorporate the native americans heritage (or for that matter, any imperialist country at the time) when mercilessly exterminating/stealing land?

Change in meaning I agree to.

Diversity of languages is a good thing for the world. In every language, there is some word that has NO counterpart in another language. Every year (avg), more than 20 languages die.

As for karma, it is a PHILOSOPHICAL ideal. you know what a PHILOSOPHICAL idea is? Same thing as Confucianism, same thing as (I think, forgot which one) Theravada Buddhism. It’s not some natural law, or saying, do bad and “magical mystical poof” you’re getting retribution. My name is earl gets it SOOOOOO OFF (even on the “modern definition”)! Its not funny (when you think its real)! you obviously don’t understand other people/regions cultures.

Modern definition should more realistically be like:
What goes around does come around, but that’s not saying its magical. Its more of “if you annoy other people, its MUCH MORE LIKELY, they will do something that annoys you”. Not that its definitely going to happen. Just MORE LIKELY.

Purely original is the belief that when you reincarnate, you deeds done decide what you are reincarnated in to (short summary).

The point after all of this, is that, it’s not “the french getting what they deserve”.
It’s “evil colluding greedy politicians listening to US” (which I will agree with you on colluding part, but here, not on WWI/WWII)

By: Fanakapan

Fanakapan — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:10:57 +0000

Being British, I take comfort from the fact, that 1000 years of accumalated Jurisprudence would prevent such a Heath Robinson scheme from erupting here, despite what our intelectually stunted leaders might say.

I had also assumed, wrongly ??? that France had a cannon of laws that were also fairly old and tested, so this may not yet pass the Legislature, or the Judiciary.

By: Not Me

Not Me — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:00:03 +0000

If this passes like this it will be the ultimate DoS tool.

By: Julien

Julien — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:20:08 +0000

It’s fun to read some folks who use this news to criticize France…
Anyway, i’m French and i can tell you that this law is just a project and it is far from becoming a law!
IF this law is voted than one of the most important change will be that only a decision of the court will be able to eventually disconnect someone. It was said in the decision of the Conseil d’Etat which studies every projetc of law. So ISP will never have the power to disconnect anyone in France!!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:54:46 +0000

how is this a big deal? Normally when somebody actually crosses the threshold to get the attention of government officials regarding file sharing, they either go to jail or pay a serious fine…whereas in France they would actually have to prove the file sharing allegations THREE times before any measure is taken, and even then the most serious punishment will be to use your neighbors wi-fi because the internet company refuses to take your money

By: Lord of Pirates

Lord of Pirates — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:41:25 +0000

“Bring back the guillotine!!

Down with the new aristocracy!

Vive la revolution!

*goes off to eat some cake*”

I love you for that.

Anyways, yet another retarded law.

By: joao

joao — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:39:55 +0000

Frenchman are all gay… merci pour sa, bijou bijou

hahahahah

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:02:32 +0000

Time to go back to the old way of passing around a disk…

By: Fremus

Fremus — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:41:30 +0000

Yeah sure. They want to disconnect at least half of their customers (including some network printers)? I’m curious about that…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:40:08 +0000

Power to the people, that stupid midget that calls himself president of France thinks he can do whatever he pleases, let the streets burn again so he can taste fear. Sick world that is.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:26:59 +0000

When you say it is not citizens’ fault but the fault of the president – it is WRONG!

President Sarkozy was elected by citizens, now it is up to them to take responsibility and take action.

By: thoouth

thoouth — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:23:37 +0000

“this was already going on in florida, im not sure if the isp’s just decide to do this bythemselves, but they give u 3 warnings then they suspend your “account name” permanently.

but then just open a new account with a different name :)”

Lol! Good point.

Already figured opening one in my partner’s name but you’re absolutely correct. Its not like the ISPs ask for id is it???

By: anyone

anyone — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:05:38 +0000

Something else going on with Cinemageddon gone down

By: Rycon

Rycon — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:22:52 +0000

lol Reduce piracy significantly.. hahaha… ahahaha.. are you serious? hahahahaha.. HAHAHAHA…

You sir.. are a complete moron.

http://rycon.baywords.com

By: John Thomas

John Thomas — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:14:47 +0000

The end of the internet as we know it.

JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:52:32 +0000

@ 51
Fucking hell, you believe in the European Parliament? But seriously, go kill yourself.

By: bbfg

bbfg — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:11:06 +0000

If it’s against EU laws it will never be passed?

By: James

James — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:51:05 +0000

Sweden’s now lost the plot also. They past that spying law.

By: defred

defred — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:37:29 +0000

wow Oo

what a fine collection of stereotypes you all folks got on the french people, that’s funny. Bringging up WW2, WW1 to comments some copyright sucking law is just lame (the godwin point is always easy to reach while talking about france).
Can I spit out my own stereotypes about english peoples, german or US peoples ? its pointless.
Once again blaming a whole population because of a stupid idea coming from their governement is just stupid. Americans are not Bush, french are not Sarko, Germans are not Merckel, and so on.
What about swedish peoples, a recent project of law is trying to get all communication to be monitored in sweden. Are the swedish a bunch of evil spies? no. So please cutoff with the caricatures.
(ho and remember the guys that prevent patenting of software in the european parliament, greatly helping and protecting the european opensource movement ? Nope ? Well he was french.)

By: Me&Myself

Me&Myself — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:50:59 +0000

I’d never liked the french. They had always been some kind of strange folks to me and now there is one more reason to hate them. Hope that this does not spread on here to Germany. Man I wish I could just live in Sweden.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:24:10 +0000

Old France joined the Nazis…New France joins the MPAA, INFI, and RIAA, not to different IMO.

By: kyro

kyro — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:09:43 +0000

France isnt the first country to do this.
New Zealand has had this in place since 2004.

By: Karma

Karma — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:06:32 +0000

It all comes out in the open eventually. Read this 2006 article in the Guardian which reports tribunal in Toulouse found French state and SNCF Railway Company guilty of collusion in deporting Jews.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jun/07/france.topstories3

When it comes to war all countries involved are eventually guilty of war crimes and unjust and inhuman treatment. War leaves no one unstained.
Historically speaking many people in France saw Hitler as their savior. They feared communism much more than Germany not everyone but a large number of French welcomed the invading army with cheers, gifts and flowers as they lined the procession route. Not to say that other countries didn’t support Hitler as a defender against communism too. But large parts French industry and banking was supporting Nazi Germany before WW2 and France became a place for German soldiers to enjoy and live it up and take leave there while the allies were fighting to liberate France. It went way beyond the contemporary accounts of a puppet government.

Karma meaning. Well it means different things to different traditions. In India its meaning differs from group to group. Buddhists ,Hindus and Sikhs have had different meanings for centuries. Some groups think it is the negative or positive energy accumulated in this life others think it goes through past and future lives.
In English the same words have different meanings and over time the same word changes in definition and usage. Decimate used to mean when The Roman army would draw lots and kill one tenth of the ranks as punishment but now means utterly destroy as well. Context is everything in word meaning. This is why French is no longer the international language of business.The French have tried to do everything to stop French from changing at all. English doesn’t do that. It incorporates other languages words freely and constantly changes.
So actually your right I do understand it the same way as does the main character in “my name is earl” does, its more an unescapable law of nature to me. The word has taken on a New Age-metaphysical meaning and is generally understood as shorthand for “what goes around comes around.”
The quip about Canada yes that was uninformed, I admit to being quite ignorant as to what happens there like a lot of people in the USA and I suppose I should as the border is only 200 miles away from me.

By: WakuWaku

WakuWaku — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:00:13 +0000

This is not going to happen,
simply because it is against the policy of the European Parliament

By: the.dwarfer

the.dwarfer — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:40:18 +0000

france has a history of the people rising up against thier leaders when they feel there is something wrong with the law. justlook at the last decade. hardly a year goes by when the french aren’t setting fire to something in protest. they may crumble when faced with a war but they don’t mind fighting with thier own goverment.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:08:24 +0000

I always have believed that Sarkozy is an imbecile, asshole and a person without dignity, personality nor character. Sarkozy is also a sheep that does all that the US Bush administration wants.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:40:36 +0000

If this happens they’ll be pushing for it everywhere, and it will be RIP internet and push technology back 30 years to the days of LPs, tapes, and radio cassette players.

Coz nobody will be buying CDs. Disk trading and pirated DVDs will be all that’s left. Oil prices will shut down the economy.

By: stacy

stacy — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:12:31 +0000

people on _riderlove.com_ have a heated discussion about this too.!!

By: Jean j Lazar

Jean j Lazar — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:36:17 +0000

Wii

By: Prison planet

Prison planet — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:24:38 +0000

The world runs on economic enslavement,has for thousands of years.

You can NOT claim freedom AND have a price,Freedom IS FREE DOMAIN the price has been paid for all who know and love the truth!

And in truth
Life is FREE the world is FREE EVERYTHING IS FREE.But LIES have imprisoned and enslaved the entire world including YOU!

If every 1 quit there jobs never to return.DEMAND their freedom these HUGE conglomerates would DIE OFF.

But hey what do I know just keep on doing what it is you are doing so as to damn our children and children’s children to the furtherance of the enslavement of the planet,just like our Grand parents and parents before us.

Remember that the love of money IS the root of all evil,And the tree of todays society is from those very same roots of evil.Money
For business is nothing more than the justification of ones own greed over the needs of others.

And if you are to say to me “but I don’t <3 money” I say bull shit what do you spend 40+ HRs a week doing???
Thats right you feed the lies.

people spend 3 times+ more time @ there jobs than they do there own kids and wounder why society is fucked up.Oh and the best part is they actually think they are doing it for there kids in reality its for all the bullshit needless things they’ve spent on credit now they are economic slaves.And now it goes 1 better you cant even raise your own child anymore,schools are for creation of educated fools.

This is the 21st century.
Never has Government worked in the past for the people continuously,But rather has continuously enslaved and oppressed its people 10,000+ times over in the past and will continue for as long as we give it the future.

Government takes 1% of power from 100% of the people and then convinces the people that the only power they have is the 1% they lost never realizing that we still hold 99% of the cards!
Wake up people!!
We win the moment we decide we do.

By: PS

PS — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:21:03 +0000

WWI, France held back Germany by (effectively) themselves in a stalemate for quite a long time….the first battle of the Marne saw basically French (Parisian) civilians being armed and marched to the front to halt the German advance.
(no offense intended to Germans or French, just saying history, I know why the first war was started (in short (all sides are to blame): Militarism, Alliances, Imperialism, Nationalism))

By: if the french didn't care karma

if the french didn't care karma — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:15:42 +0000

why are they bowing to the US pressure now? The French didn’t “voluntarily bow down” to German aggression willingly. There were resistance groups. The French government set up a little entente after Uk and the US practically abandoned them pre-WWII and banked their defenses on the Maginot line. It obviously failed, but that doesn’t say they “voluntarily colluded with crazy nazi’s.” Yes Vichy France helped Germany in WWII, but they were a puppet state, not really run by French. Go study history again, and you also clearly don’t understand the real meaning of karma, and understand it the same way as does the main character in “my name is earl” (which is not right at all people! Karma is not like a religion (by itself) where it magically creates retribution!)

Clearly, you are ignorant of the US/Uk’s own shortcomings *cough* corruption, DMCA; giving in to US demands *cough*

Ps: France dropped out of NATO cause they were tired of listening to the US and their cold war “issues” with the USSR (or something like that according to my world history textbook, can’t remember correctly right before going to sleep), and wanted to have greater say on the international scene, not cause they only wanted to annoy other countries.

You are clearly too arrogant…

Canadian Jim Prentice is bowing to US pressure too, not to “French idiocy” as you claim so (which doesn’t exist)