50MB Movie Downloads

Written by Ernesto on April 13, 2006 

A new, revolutionary compression method makes it possible to shrink movies down to 50MB. This means that downloading a movie will take just a couple of minutes. The new compression method developed by Euclid Discoveries has a great potential for both legal and illegal video distribution.

Online movie ‘pirates’ will be delighted by a new technology able to, “shrink a video so small that it becomes easy to distribute films over the Internet,” as the Boston Globe describes it.

Euclid Discoveries’ EuclidVision uses “object-based compression” to identify individual objects shown in a video and then, “calculates the optimum level of compression for each of them,” says the story.

A full-length movie needing 700 Mb of storage, “when compressed using MPEG-4 would use just 50 megabytes when compressed with EuclidVision”.

Fourteen movies could fit on a standard CD and it would take an hour for someone with a 1.5 megabit-per-second broadband connection to download a 700-megabyte file, says the Boston Globe.

“But 50 megabytes would take less than five minutes.”

Euclid Discoveries has filed 15 US patents on its compression system and is in discussions with a number of companies to bring it to market, says the story. And that could be good news for Hollywood, “which launched new services last week to sell downloadable copies of recent films. Reducing the size of these downloads could boost Internet movie sales.”

Good news?

The Big Six movie studios’ MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) is already bleating endlessly about imaginary losses it says are down to the fact flics appear on the p2p networks, never mentioning that many ‘pirated’ movies show up online through the efforts of Hollywood insiders.

Imagine what’ll happen with mini-movies.

“The current generation of EuclidVision is designed for videoconferencing over telephone lines with limited bandwidth. Euclid Discoveries says its scientists compressed a 25-megabyte conference video to just over 8,000 bytes using MPEG-4, but EuclidVision did four times better, shrinking the file to about 1,800 bytes.”

And Euclid Discoveries chief executive Richard Wingard believes the system will work even better with full-length movies.

”We believe that because it’s object based, the longer the video . . . the better we’ll do,” the Boston Globe has him saying.

“That’s because the compression system can remember objects that appear frequently in the video, such as an actor’s face, and can store such images in memory after reading them from the disk just once. Thus, many objects need to be recorded just once in the digital file, instead of every time they appear in the film.

Defiitely stay tuned.

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26 Responses

1 Apr 13, 2006 at 20:54 by Chris

Very intersting. Any stuff of their work?

2 Apr 13, 2006 at 21:14 by Ernesto

Unfortunately not yet. I think we just have to wait a little longer.

3 Apr 14, 2006 at 01:05 by Anonymous Coward

Shrink the file to 1800 bytes? 1.8kB? A good resolution picture is bigger than that… I call BS on the stats.

4 Apr 14, 2006 at 03:41 by iaom

How can one object be even identified as the same object from every different angle? Sounds like utter bullshit.

5 Apr 14, 2006 at 03:44 by showtaper

This should have been posted April 1st.

What a load of crap…..

6 Apr 14, 2006 at 06:01 by m67

Is it april fools day all over again?

7 Apr 14, 2006 at 09:13 by Jer

This is just marketing crap. Believe real examples, not a marketing departments. Notice they compare it to the older mpeg-4 rather than newer codecs like H.264

Also the speed of encode is pretty important and was not mentioned. This would be a major drawback and could add far more time to getting a file than an extra 650mb download would.

8 Apr 14, 2006 at 13:36 by steveh67

THATS A LOAD OF BULLSHIT NEVER HAPPEN.APRIL FOOLS HUH LONG LIVE THE PIRATERS.

9 Apr 14, 2006 at 17:04 by falafelboy

What’s with all the bullshit crap?
Give it a chance and we’ll see what happens.

H264/x264 codec can shrink a file from 175mb, for example, to around 65 mb with same quality.

I see no reason why this technology won’t work, BUT, it is definitely a long way off. Think 5 years?

10 Apr 14, 2006 at 17:18 by kron

well.. this makes me think of a compression method recently can compress 700MB into 1.4MB, but at last it turned out to be a hoax.
Hope this isnt apirl fool again…

11 Apr 16, 2006 at 02:42 by Vichheka

good

12 Apr 17, 2006 at 02:14 by zouhair

I don’t even have the time to watch all the movie I download (4,3 GB per download)

so I won’t get even close that hoax even if it’s true

13 Apr 17, 2006 at 13:36 by SAN

Well if you dont belive that files can be compressed that much, then take a look at this page: http://www.theprodukkt.com/
a 64 kB movie, vit sound and everything, and a FPS 3D game only 97 kB

But I dont see how a face can be loadet into the momery, what if the face is in a shaddow the next time it’s shown? then it will look different..

14 Apr 18, 2006 at 23:29 by pinualz

the techniquez that they speek of within the article are used by other programs such as adobe illustrator and in the building of gifs which allows them 2 reduce size due to reoccuring pixels. but at the same time the claims introduced by the company seem preposterous and doubtfull, probably vaporware. The reoccurding images within movies are generally obscured/distorted and changed throughout the movie due to lighting and setting. The codec seems that it would have to be somewhat dynamic changing with each movie it codes. But through all this people should also remember that not to long ago it was unheard of to have DVD quality movies within 700mb then DIVX codec came along and made it all possible

15 Apr 19, 2006 at 12:34 by Pegaz

Hello?
I can compress 700mb file to 5 mb with xvid. It’s not about size but about quality and encoding department is really squezed to the limit by all the open source and independent research. You just can’t do better than h264 or VP7, it’s mathematically impossible.

Also, the method they describe is something that have been used since like divx 3.11? the only diffence is that they’ll encode non-important part (think bacground of video call) to hell just keep the faces reasonable.

16 Apr 20, 2006 at 08:56 by xyzzy

Yup, it’s funny how the Boston Globe essentially copies a corporate press release about some bit of vaporware without even asking to see the product, and without trying the “demo.” Now maybe the Globe is stupid, but maybe the Globe was *PAID* to do that. “Stupid is as stupid does.”

Breakthroughs do happen, but before anyone accepts it as real, they should just try to download the demo — because you can NOT, even though it LOOKS like you can. That is probably not an accident. This incident is relatively trivial, but it’s a great example of how many people think something is true if they see it in the corporate news media. Therefore, you can BUY credibility–you can fool the vast majority just by paying the corporate news media to say something which is totally false. They are more than happy to take this bribe money, because they are not in business to tell the truth, they are in business to make a profit. That issue is HUGE… and it is *extremely* important, because you can get away with ANYTHING if you can make people believe a big enough lie. It happens every day, and here are a few examples:
___________

CORPORATE FAKE NEWS EXPOSED:

“…In each case, these 77 television stations actively disguised the sponsored content to make it appear to be their own reporting…”

prwatch.org/node/4550/
___________

GOVERNMENT FAKE NEWS EXPOSED:

“Shortly before last year’s Super Bowl, local news stations across the country aired a story by Mike Morris … there was nothing in the two-minute, prepackaged reports that would indicate to viewers that they came from the government or that Morris, a former journalist, was working under contract for the government…”

infowars.com/articles/media/propaganda_drug_control_issues_fake_news.htm

prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/161205fake_news.htm
___________

“In March 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interests and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”

-U.S. congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

17 Apr 21, 2006 at 02:22 by fsckr

This definitely sounds hoaxy. Those levels of compression are impossible without significant loss in quality/audio fidelity.

Anyway, lets see whether they release an end-user product coz if they do, it will release 93% of my bandwidth ;)
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fsckr
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18 Apr 23, 2006 at 08:48 by azsh

Give trial first then we decide is good as say.

19 Apr 30, 2006 at 11:02 by best blue dog

can I take it with me when I die

20 May 01, 2006 at 01:32 by joy aua

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21 Jul 09, 2006 at 07:05 by yaya

i have no idia. but i am loking for movies.

22 Feb 07, 2007 at 18:46 by jonn

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23 Apr 29, 2007 at 19:54 by Sandra

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24 Apr 30, 2007 at 23:07 by Gianetta

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25 May 01, 2007 at 02:04 by Ciosa

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26 Aug 10, 2008 at 09:44 by Sassan

It’s kinda KGB compression I guess. It usually takes 5 hours for extraction of a 700mb file! which sounds crazy

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