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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/98-of-bittorrent-users-in-copyright-shakedown-filed-in-wrong-jurisdiction-110926/#comment-837336</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>/98-of-bittorrent-users-in-copyright-shakedown-filed-in-wrong-jurisdiction-110926/#comment-837185</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point you are missing is that if  the IP  address is for a wired connection (as opposed to a Cell Phone one) the assigned IPN indicates the head end where you are connected. If my IPN shows that my wired connection is to a head end on New Jersey (as it would even though I am just over the NY/NJ border in NY) then filing against me in Texas would be out of jurisdiction). The article states that  of the 4000+ IPNs less than 1% map to an address covered by the court. Note that Cell connections can not be relied on for location - When I use my Call connection from my Laptop I get an IPN that claims that I am in California even though I am in NY or Florida (all connections go to servers in CA).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point you are missing is that if  the IP  address is for a wired connection (as opposed to a Cell Phone one) the assigned IPN indicates the head end where you are connected. If my IPN shows that my wired connection is to a head end on New Jersey (as it would even though I am just over the NY/NJ border in NY) then filing against me in Texas would be out of jurisdiction). The article states that  of the 4000+ IPNs less than 1% map to an address covered by the court. Note that Cell connections can not be relied on for location &#8211; When I use my Call connection from my Laptop I get an IPN that claims that I am in California even though I am in NY or Florida (all connections go to servers in CA).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chameleon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chameleon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t really say for sure, as i&#039;m in Germany, but judging by the way it&#039;s handled over here, you might be right on that one.

Was just an example though. And in my case, that geotool page shows my location alarmingly accurate. It&#039;s only off by 1 house (if even that).. pretty scary considering all that&#039;s needed to get that info is the IP :&#124;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really say for sure, as i&#8217;m in Germany, but judging by the way it&#8217;s handled over here, you might be right on that one.</p>
<p>Was just an example though. And in my case, that geotool page shows my location alarmingly accurate. It&#8217;s only off by 1 house (if even that).. pretty scary considering all that&#8217;s needed to get that info is the IP :|</p>
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		<title>By: waitagoshdarn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waitagoshdarn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, point taken, but these are federal cases, right?  The federal jurisdictions don&#039;t conform with states, counties or cities.  They&#039;re their own districts, kinda like your voting district is weird-shaped with all that gerrymandering.  Consider something like Fargo.  Sure, it tells you you&#039;re in Fargo, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean you&#039;re even in the same state as the guy down your street.   There are many many people who share the same approximate geographic location, and who even use the same local ISP, but who aren&#039;t in the same judicial district. Know what I mean?  Like Texas might be texas shaped, but there are like 5 Maine-sized federal judicial districts in it, and their shapes don&#039;t necessarily correspond to anything intuitive.  DC only has one district - but wasn&#039;t this filed in Maryland?  Just because I live &#039;near&#039; Baltimore doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m necessarily in the same JUDICIAL district as Baltimore, right?  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, totally not trying to troll.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, point taken, but these are federal cases, right?  The federal jurisdictions don&#8217;t conform with states, counties or cities.  They&#8217;re their own districts, kinda like your voting district is weird-shaped with all that gerrymandering.  Consider something like Fargo.  Sure, it tells you you&#8217;re in Fargo, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you&#8217;re even in the same state as the guy down your street.   There are many many people who share the same approximate geographic location, and who even use the same local ISP, but who aren&#8217;t in the same judicial district. Know what I mean?  Like Texas might be texas shaped, but there are like 5 Maine-sized federal judicial districts in it, and their shapes don&#8217;t necessarily correspond to anything intuitive.  DC only has one district &#8211; but wasn&#8217;t this filed in Maryland?  Just because I live &#8216;near&#8217; Baltimore doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m necessarily in the same JUDICIAL district as Baltimore, right?  Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, totally not trying to troll.    </p>
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		<title>By: Chameleon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chameleon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure it&#039;s not completely accurate, but it&#039;s damn close.
For example, http://geo.flagfox.net reports my location VERY close to where i am right now. In the worst case, it was about 20km / 12.4miles away. 

Something like that site would certainly be &quot;good enough&quot; to find out what state a person/IP is in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it&#8217;s not completely accurate, but it&#8217;s damn close.<br />
For example, <a href="http://geo.flagfox.net" rel="nofollow">http://geo.flagfox.net</a> reports my location VERY close to where i am right now. In the worst case, it was about 20km / 12.4miles away. </p>
<p>Something like that site would certainly be &#8220;good enough&#8221; to find out what state a person/IP is in.</p>
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		<title>By: waitagoshdarn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waitagoshdarn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, I&#039;m guessing you guys are using geo ip stuff to determine a general geographic area for the 4,165 IP addresses.  But come on, to be fair - that&#039;s not completely accurate either. Even if you have the right person associated with the IP address, an IP lookup finds the geographic location associated with the ISP, not a person.  And hasn&#039;t TF, among others, been arguing all along that an IP address is not a person?  
Either an IP address is a person or it isn&#039;t.  You can&#039;t have it both ways.  You can&#039;t come to the conclusion that a defendant is or isn&#039;t in the right jurisdiction just based on an IP address - unless you&#039;re willing to admit that IP address = person.  Just playing devil&#039;s advocate here.  You can do better TF.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m guessing you guys are using geo ip stuff to determine a general geographic area for the 4,165 IP addresses.  But come on, to be fair &#8211; that&#8217;s not completely accurate either. Even if you have the right person associated with the IP address, an IP lookup finds the geographic location associated with the ISP, not a person.  And hasn&#8217;t TF, among others, been arguing all along that an IP address is not a person?<br />
Either an IP address is a person or it isn&#8217;t.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.  You can&#8217;t come to the conclusion that a defendant is or isn&#8217;t in the right jurisdiction just based on an IP address &#8211; unless you&#8217;re willing to admit that IP address = person.  Just playing devil&#8217;s advocate here.  You can do better TF.  </p>
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		<title>By: 3 Count: Scene Change &#124; Plagiarism Today</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3 Count: Scene Change &#124; Plagiarism Today]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Kangaroo Court system is a real joke.
anonymize.it.tc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kangaroo Court system is a real joke.<br />
anonymize.it.tc</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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