Hahaha, nice. I love watching these bitch-fights too! I usually grab some corn chips and put on NOFX – Dinosaurs Will Die whilst reading.

This argument is hilarious to watch. In general, I constantly see people post “Piracy is not stealing. People have a right to share their property with others” and then retards come back with “Face it, stealing is stealing. And you’re not just stealing from…”

It’s funny to watch how stupid people are.

And don’t think for a second that torrent freak’s censors are overzealous, or that they think they need to ‘protect’ us from unsettling thoughts like “stealing is stealing.” First of all, we’ve heard all that illogical bullshit before (OH NOES a swear! Guess what? I won’t get censored!) and have you ever heard of ‘neo styles’ or so-called ‘reasoned mind’?

I’m guessing the censor was a fluke, or torrent freak’s mods just wanted a laugh to see what you’d say after they censored you.

Anyway, that song was hilarious; I loved it.

While Lily Allen is freakin stupid, the people that actually buy into her shit are beyond stupid. I feel like the only explanation is that they just can’t analyze arguments right, and can’t manage enough cognitive thought to form an independent, complete opinion.

For example, Torrentfreakscensorspost is just using the argument it got from an anti-piracy propaganda ad, slightly rewritten to be even dumber. It’s already accepted the PIRACY IS STEALING!!! propaganda. It feels like it doesn’t even need to mention piracy once – mentioning stealing seems to be enough. Using ‘stealing’ as a synonym for ‘piracy’, it says “stealing is stealing”

The amount of toolery evident here is astounding.

P.S. I define a ‘tool’ as one incapable of formulating their own personality or opinions, who instead borrows others’.

I also use ‘it’ rather than ‘they’ as a male-female third person pronoun. It just makes more sense.

http://www.sciencetext.com/metallica-napster-and-marx.html

its starting to take off elsewere though

Hardly. Strikes me that there’s actually a distinct lack of any reporting on the matter by mainstream media, of which I’m completely unsurprised.

Recognise that, and see the ugly wiring under the boards.

lol @ my hilariously incorrect statistics. disregard these.

it could open up the debate so much wider given the popular and catchy tune…

and http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/search-is-on-for-the-uks-metallica-932.html

Sony’s sales went up over 15% in 2007. In December 2007, 4.4 million jobs were cut.
Don’t be overdramatic about statistics that don’t exist. I’m a musician too, but I’m one that’s smart enough to know that music is art and not a business. Money should be earned from selling CDs in a more interactive way, independently, and through gigs. Piracy promotes the underground, it’s healthier for music.

So this is just a propaganda site, plain and simple.

I pointed out that if I were able to steal *your* work easily without much chance of getting caught, does this mean that *you* aren’t allowed to make a living?

Anyhow, I am sure the mods will protect you all from such upsetting questions.

Stealing is stealing. You aren’t just hurting rich pig label execs – there’s record stores, distributors, truck drivers, etc ad nauseum going hungry because of it. So save all your flowery BS about ‘freedom’ for someone who doesn’t know you’re just stealing other people’s work because you can.

Your right, with 5-6 million “pirates” in the UK, a co-ordinated protest with each pirate buying just 1 copy each all on the same week, would rocket the tune to number 1. Giving the biggest fuck you to the music business ever!!!

Remember when you pretended, Lily, that you were truly independent, Lily? Faking like you made it all alone but you were legally with Regal, part of Parlophone – oh yes. So when you lectured me, I thought I’d fileshare my thoughts on your mp3, Lily.

Now first I must sing your praises – I love your singing but I’ll just say this: I saw on your MySpace pages saying filesharing’s a new ice age, but the industry’s a recent innovation – music’s been alive, thriving since cavemen. Folk songs so long have had a place in communities that you should be amazed at it. Then one day came intellectual property, meaning if I think a thought, you can’t copy me. And if honesty’s the best policy, I’d say songs are better off without this monopoly. It’d blatantly be a major fail if they’d patented the major scale. And downloads don’t equate to sales, so taking them away won’t make me pay up – just procludes me from sending your tunes to my friends, so we all lose in the end. You lose potential fans and we lose respect for the fact that you’re desperate for cash. But what do you expect from the lass who’s collecting a fat bank cheque from the man, while her fans are collecting the glasses for minimum wage they’ll spend on her tracks?

Now please don’t be offended, Lily; I think your new CD’s splendid, Lily. Everybody’s at It and it’s Not Fair, I Could Say, The Fear was Him but He wasn’t There so let’s go Back to the Start, before 22 – all music’s in the public domain, so F*ck You.

It’s never the amateurs that’s reckon it’s damaging us, it’s the major labels saying it’s fatal; like when Napster had to pack up, wrecked by Metallica. The table’s turned now – the labels churn out a new Jezebelinternetelevangelist – and she’s fit – with a manuscript that was actually written by Mr. Michael Masnick. Can you get the irony? And by the by, Lily, I like this beat – I hope you don’t mind me thieving, ’cause even doing a cover song’s decried as stealing. But it’s alright, still, for you to plagiarise, and preach it – Don’t you believe it’s maybe time to rethink, Lily?

Put music back in the hands of the people; make the majors and amateurs equal. If anything labels strangle the freedom you claim they’re saving by banning this evil. That’s the actual reason, you see; and please don’t compare sharing to stealing – I’ve not took anything off you, I’m just spreading love for what you do. Downloaded your songs for free, then I bought my mom your CD. She likes it too, she keeps telling me, all because I pirated an mp3. Now I’ve got Matt Bellamy belling me, telling me I’m not a fan, I’m the enemy. That’s amusing, I’ve paid enough to see Muse in my time I could buy them a museum. Did you see them on that programme miming? Yeah, the pirates are killing live gigs. Maybe we should have a ban CDs appeal – then people would pay to see bands for real. Dear Lily, why are you being this silly?

Yours sincerely,
Dan Bull

P.S. – And I don’t mean any offence or anything, Lily. I just don’t think the issue’s as clear cut as you’re making out. And I know you’re going to carry on making music really. But when you’re between the devil and the deep blue sea, you need to stop worrying about pirates, and adjust your sails.

It made my day…thanks.

I would LOVE to see this song hit the radios and TV!!

^^ I’m gonna go buy it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8q8x5sBrxg

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