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	<title>Comments on: Acoustic Band &#8216;Utterly Depends&#8217; on Piracy</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-490999</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a long time SoH fan... they are one of the most well-respected folk/rock/roots bands in the UK... if they&#039;re performing at a festival the other stages will empty when they&#039;re on.

We *know* that what Steve says is right... but look at it from his point of view. They tour continuously, most of the people seeing them have seen them before. You can only sell someone one copy of your latest album but they&#039;ll come to see you play as many times as they can. So I suspect that, even if piracy didn&#039;t exist, he&#039;s making most of his money from performing rather than CDs. His mindset is that the CD is publicity material for the live show.

My first thought would be that he&#039;s adopted this approach because the live fees go straight into his pocket - no record company taking half of it. But actually, they are their own record company - so I guess he&#039;s happy to lose some money from that revenue stream if it boosts the more profitable touring revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a long time SoH fan&#8230; they are one of the most well-respected folk/rock/roots bands in the UK&#8230; if they&#8217;re performing at a festival the other stages will empty when they&#8217;re on.</p>
<p>We *know* that what Steve says is right&#8230; but look at it from his point of view. They tour continuously, most of the people seeing them have seen them before. You can only sell someone one copy of your latest album but they&#8217;ll come to see you play as many times as they can. So I suspect that, even if piracy didn&#8217;t exist, he&#8217;s making most of his money from performing rather than CDs. His mindset is that the CD is publicity material for the live show.</p>
<p>My first thought would be that he&#8217;s adopted this approach because the live fees go straight into his pocket &#8211; no record company taking half of it. But actually, they are their own record company &#8211; so I guess he&#8217;s happy to lose some money from that revenue stream if it boosts the more profitable touring revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: RIAA slapped</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489846</link>
		<dc:creator>RIAA slapped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. time to download their album and decide.  If its good, time for VIRAL MARKETING!!  And buy their albums.

Bottomline:  No one wants to spend money on a product that the user will not be happy.

Once that user is satisfied, he will spend money.  No one was born evil.

(Maybe RIAA was born evil)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. time to download their album and decide.  If its good, time for VIRAL MARKETING!!  And buy their albums.</p>
<p>Bottomline:  No one wants to spend money on a product that the user will not be happy.</p>
<p>Once that user is satisfied, he will spend money.  No one was born evil.</p>
<p>(Maybe RIAA was born evil)</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489820</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freeloaders are bad but are in reality a small majority of users of eclectic music because those who come to truly appreciate it would lay down the money for it.  Basically...piracy becomes a type of free advertising the artist doesn&#039;t have to pay for air time.

Really, the only people hurt by piracy are the record labels who ripped off their artists and customers for years on end...not only money..but good music that was left off the air so that they could force feed the public their garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freeloaders are bad but are in reality a small majority of users of eclectic music because those who come to truly appreciate it would lay down the money for it.  Basically&#8230;piracy becomes a type of free advertising the artist doesn&#8217;t have to pay for air time.</p>
<p>Really, the only people hurt by piracy are the record labels who ripped off their artists and customers for years on end&#8230;not only money..but good music that was left off the air so that they could force feed the public their garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489730</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>checking out their music on myspace, might grab their album off BT some time, not my usual style of music, but catching :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>checking out their music on myspace, might grab their album off BT some time, not my usual style of music, but catching :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta say, I really like these TF stories on artists who &quot;get it&quot;.

Makes for excellent counter-propaganda to the music industry and I&#039;ve already bought half a dozen albums after hearing about share-friendly bands on TF.

Also, they&#039;re a pleasant break from the usual doom and gloom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say, I really like these TF stories on artists who &#8220;get it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Makes for excellent counter-propaganda to the music industry and I&#8217;ve already bought half a dozen albums after hearing about share-friendly bands on TF.</p>
<p>Also, they&#8217;re a pleasant break from the usual doom and gloom.</p>
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		<title>By: Pxl_Buzzard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489542</link>
		<dc:creator>Pxl_Buzzard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely loved this article, thanks a ton for the write-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely loved this article, thanks a ton for the write-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489527</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had I not downloaded some music many years ago. I would not have discovered some great bands that I had never heard of in my country.

Had I not downloaded those songs, that band would have never been promoted here, and they would have never toured, like they did 2 years ago and include my country in the itinerary.

Had it not been for &quot;Piracy&quot;, that band would not only have not had a sale from me, because they are good and good enough for me and the other fans in my country that had not heard of them before hand to purchase their CD&#039;s. But they would also not have had the opportunity to travel here to promote themselves and satisfy their fanbase.

In the end, one person &quot;pirated&quot; their music, then a whole group of people followed. Purchasing their CD&#039;s from the bands online store on their site. Had I not downloaded their music, maybe this might not happened at all.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had I not downloaded some music many years ago. I would not have discovered some great bands that I had never heard of in my country.</p>
<p>Had I not downloaded those songs, that band would have never been promoted here, and they would have never toured, like they did 2 years ago and include my country in the itinerary.</p>
<p>Had it not been for &#8220;Piracy&#8221;, that band would not only have not had a sale from me, because they are good and good enough for me and the other fans in my country that had not heard of them before hand to purchase their CD&#8217;s. But they would also not have had the opportunity to travel here to promote themselves and satisfy their fanbase.</p>
<p>In the end, one person &#8220;pirated&#8221; their music, then a whole group of people followed. Purchasing their CD&#8217;s from the bands online store on their site. Had I not downloaded their music, maybe this might not happened at all.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: JizmJim</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489519</link>
		<dc:creator>JizmJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selling MP3 files for a buck a song is the real crime!  Giving the artist 2 cents of it?  That&#039;s slavery.  Artists who don&#039;t support file sharing these days fall into one or more of these categories:

1. They have something to hide (ie lousy music that won&#039;t sell a live show)

2. They are brainwashed.

3. They have delusions of granduer.

4. They are older than rocks and can&#039;t open their minds anymore.

5. They are just smart enough to make it to work without getting hit by a bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selling MP3 files for a buck a song is the real crime!  Giving the artist 2 cents of it?  That&#8217;s slavery.  Artists who don&#8217;t support file sharing these days fall into one or more of these categories:</p>
<p>1. They have something to hide (ie lousy music that won&#8217;t sell a live show)</p>
<p>2. They are brainwashed.</p>
<p>3. They have delusions of granduer.</p>
<p>4. They are older than rocks and can&#8217;t open their minds anymore.</p>
<p>5. They are just smart enough to make it to work without getting hit by a bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489411</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all this, it is a shame that on The Pirate Bay, you can only find 1 seeder (searching names only)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all this, it is a shame that on The Pirate Bay, you can only find 1 seeder (searching names only)</p>
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		<title>By: Viper007Bond</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489409</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper007Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart man.</p>
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		<title>By: Garza.R</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489387</link>
		<dc:creator>Garza.R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the music and I have now ordered the album. Me&#039; thinks that they&#039;re going to get a heck of a profit through this.

Good on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the music and I have now ordered the album. Me&#8217; thinks that they&#8217;re going to get a heck of a profit through this.</p>
<p>Good on him.</p>
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		<title>By: X Ray</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489375</link>
		<dc:creator>X Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this band via &quot;the p word&quot; - I really recommend that everyone checks out &quot;Roots&quot; - or in fact, the whole album Witness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this band via &#8220;the p word&#8221; &#8211; I really recommend that everyone checks out &#8220;Roots&#8221; &#8211; or in fact, the whole album Witness!</p>
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		<title>By: real cost</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489369</link>
		<dc:creator>real cost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and if the riaa inflates the cost of an infringement then should not the pirate be able to inflate the cost of , buying a burner, buying the cdrs. dvdrs and also his time spent buring.

That would be interesting to see that
subtracted and what youd be left with is what ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and if the riaa inflates the cost of an infringement then should not the pirate be able to inflate the cost of , buying a burner, buying the cdrs. dvdrs and also his time spent buring.</p>
<p>That would be interesting to see that<br />
subtracted and what youd be left with is what ?</p>
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		<title>By: uha1.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489368</link>
		<dc:creator>uha1.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pirating music is not theft
pirating music is not theft

A) i have a bat you take it thats theft as i no longer have a bat

B) however you look at bat goto a tree and make one identical to mine , i still have the original bat and thus no theft has occured.

DO ARTISTS GET IT YET , 
NO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pirating music is not theft<br />
pirating music is not theft</p>
<p>A) i have a bat you take it thats theft as i no longer have a bat</p>
<p>B) however you look at bat goto a tree and make one identical to mine , i still have the original bat and thus no theft has occured.</p>
<p>DO ARTISTS GET IT YET ,<br />
NO</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/acoustic-band-utterly-depends-on-piracy-080826/#comment-489348</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A light of intelligence in a sea of stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A light of intelligence in a sea of stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: F The RIAA</title>
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		<dc:creator>F The RIAA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I never post on this kind of stuff....

However, I feel compelled to support this band for taking the stance they did. I just looked them up on youtube (prolly pirated) and now i&#039;m interested. Next step, purchase CD. 

Are you paying attention RIAA? Perhaps you should.....

We are not pirates, rather smart consumers. The majority of us will &quot;try before we buy&quot;. If we like, the next step is to purchase (regardless  of DRM). Please take note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I never post on this kind of stuff&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, I feel compelled to support this band for taking the stance they did. I just looked them up on youtube (prolly pirated) and now i&#8217;m interested. Next step, purchase CD. </p>
<p>Are you paying attention RIAA? Perhaps you should&#8230;..</p>
<p>We are not pirates, rather smart consumers. The majority of us will &#8220;try before we buy&#8221;. If we like, the next step is to purchase (regardless  of DRM). Please take note.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Mildred Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Mildred Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hear, hear!  Finally a musician who gets it.  Or maybe most musicians *do* get it.  It&#039;s just the occasional nutter like Metalica that doesn&#039;t.  I am a musician too, and I utterly depend on people sharing my music.  So yeah, if you like instrumental electronica, check out my stuff ;) http://popamericana.com/76 you can get a torrent at the dreaded Pirate Bay: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4361247/5_albums_by_76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear, hear!  Finally a musician who gets it.  Or maybe most musicians *do* get it.  It&#8217;s just the occasional nutter like Metalica that doesn&#8217;t.  I am a musician too, and I utterly depend on people sharing my music.  So yeah, if you like instrumental electronica, check out my stuff ;) <a href="http://popamericana.com/76" rel="nofollow">http://popamericana.com/76</a> you can get a torrent at the dreaded Pirate Bay: <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4361247/5_albums_by_76" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4361247/5_albums_by_76</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost never pay for music BUT if i like the band then

I go to ALL their local concerts when they tour
I buy their merchandise (shirts.. etc)

I personally feel that its a better way to support a band because from CD sales bands get a small portion of  the proceeds but they get a much bigger cut from concert tickets and shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost never pay for music BUT if i like the band then</p>
<p>I go to ALL their local concerts when they tour<br />
I buy their merchandise (shirts.. etc)</p>
<p>I personally feel that its a better way to support a band because from CD sales bands get a small portion of  the proceeds but they get a much bigger cut from concert tickets and shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: pirated</title>
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		<dc:creator>pirated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who else thinks that they just won tons more &quot;Viral marketing&quot; automatically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who else thinks that they just won tons more &#8220;Viral marketing&#8221; automatically?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made of win. Never heard of this band, but I&#039;m off to have a listen. If they&#039;re at all decent I&#039;ll be off to buy their CD. So want to support this sort of attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made of win. Never heard of this band, but I&#8217;m off to have a listen. If they&#8217;re at all decent I&#8217;ll be off to buy their CD. So want to support this sort of attitude.</p>
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