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		<title>By: owlguy223</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[owlguy223]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still here, and think about this subject almost daily]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still here, and think about this subject almost daily</p>
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		<title>By: zarathustra</title>
		<link>/admins-of-oldest-bittorrent-site-face-criminal-charges-100721/#comment-691793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zarathustra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please obscure Stephan&#039;s Surname on the copy of the charge sheet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please obscure Stephan&#8217;s Surname on the copy of the charge sheet.</p>
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		<title>By: LoL</title>
		<link>/admins-of-oldest-bittorrent-site-face-criminal-charges-100721/#comment-689095</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like this is pretty much a dead topic now since the site is not down :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this is pretty much a dead topic now since the site is not down :)</p>
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		<title>By: Loui</title>
		<link>/admins-of-oldest-bittorrent-site-face-criminal-charges-100721/#comment-686881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loui]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they didnt even take http://filesoup.com/ down! wtf is going on?

looks like FACT are frivolously exp[loiting the UK law to harass filesharers. is it not a criminal offense to treat the law frivolously?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they didnt even take <a href="http://filesoup.com/" rel="nofollow">http://filesoup.com/</a> down! wtf is going on?</p>
<p>looks like FACT are frivolously exp[loiting the UK law to harass filesharers. is it not a criminal offense to treat the law frivolously?</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Rebel-Bubble (What Does Permaculture have to do with Bit Torrent?)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digital Rebel-Bubble (What Does Permaculture have to do with Bit Torrent?)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interview exerpt:

Bill Mollison: You see, the worst thing about permaculture is that it’s extremely successful, but it has no center, and no hierarchy.

Alan: So that’s worst from whose perspective?

Bill: Anybody that wants to extinguish it. It’s something with a million heads. It’s a way of thinking which is already loose, and you can’t put a way of thinking back in the box.

Alan: Is it an anarchist movement?

Bill: ...You won’t get cooperation out of a hierarchical system. You get enforced directions from the top, and nothing I know of can run like that. I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.&quot;

See the Transition Network for a permaculture chapter in your area. Create one yourself.

Believe it or not, it&#039;s all related.

In a sense, Permaculture is the bit torrent of agriculture, of civilization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interview exerpt:</p>
<p>Bill Mollison: You see, the worst thing about permaculture is that it’s extremely successful, but it has no center, and no hierarchy.</p>
<p>Alan: So that’s worst from whose perspective?</p>
<p>Bill: Anybody that wants to extinguish it. It’s something with a million heads. It’s a way of thinking which is already loose, and you can’t put a way of thinking back in the box.</p>
<p>Alan: Is it an anarchist movement?</p>
<p>Bill: &#8230;You won’t get cooperation out of a hierarchical system. You get enforced directions from the top, and nothing I know of can run like that. I think the world would function extremely well with millions of little cooperative groups, all in relation to each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>See the Transition Network for a permaculture chapter in your area. Create one yourself.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, it&#8217;s all related.</p>
<p>In a sense, Permaculture is the bit torrent of agriculture, of civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: FuzzyX</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am someone well aware of the operation of FACT and the Police they use. 
 
Make no mistake this is not about justice when FACT&#039;s goal is to take their adversesy out of business by legal trickery possible worthy of the most nasty of lawyers.
 
The Police are used by FACT despite FACT&#039;s biased position. They are seen as technical advisers who of course abuse their findings. 
 
The Police are inept towards the technology the need to judge. This is how FACT get their foot in the door. &quot;Look at this it must be wrong&quot; where the Police do not know better. 
 
FACT join the Police on raids. FACT maintain and examine your property even without stated explanation or just reason. 
 
I know FACT well. They said they would return my property if they could keep one object and if I agreed not to sue them for damages. I said &quot;no&quot; 
 
FACT 0 - Me 1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am someone well aware of the operation of FACT and the Police they use. </p>
<p>Make no mistake this is not about justice when FACT&#8217;s goal is to take their adversesy out of business by legal trickery possible worthy of the most nasty of lawyers.</p>
<p>The Police are used by FACT despite FACT&#8217;s biased position. They are seen as technical advisers who of course abuse their findings. </p>
<p>The Police are inept towards the technology the need to judge. This is how FACT get their foot in the door. &#8220;Look at this it must be wrong&#8221; where the Police do not know better. </p>
<p>FACT join the Police on raids. FACT maintain and examine your property even without stated explanation or just reason. </p>
<p>I know FACT well. They said they would return my property if they could keep one object and if I agreed not to sue them for damages. I said &#8220;no&#8221; </p>
<p>FACT 0 &#8211; Me 1</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capt. Awesome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If F.A.C.T are now in procession of the computers, what is to stop them putting a ton of files on filesoups computers as &#039;proof&#039; of them sharing actual files?

The fact police have no clue what bit torrent is, and the same can be said about the judge then they could easily be BS&#039;ed too.

Due to the fact the police can now not ensure the computers can not be tampered with means this should be thrown out of court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If F.A.C.T are now in procession of the computers, what is to stop them putting a ton of files on filesoups computers as &#8216;proof&#8217; of them sharing actual files?</p>
<p>The fact police have no clue what bit torrent is, and the same can be said about the judge then they could easily be BS&#8217;ed too.</p>
<p>Due to the fact the police can now not ensure the computers can not be tampered with means this should be thrown out of court.</p>
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		<title>By: Cake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TorrentLeech is owned by the mpaa/riaa
Surprise surprise!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TorrentLeech is owned by the mpaa/riaa<br />
Surprise surprise!</p>
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		<title>By: zenithmaster</title>
		<link>/admins-of-oldest-bittorrent-site-face-criminal-charges-100721/#comment-686682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zenithmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As several posters have already noted, this case is likely to get immediately thrown out by the any court on grounds of improper handling of evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As several posters have already noted, this case is likely to get immediately thrown out by the any court on grounds of improper handling of evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldest BitTorrent Site&#8217;s Admins Faces Criminal Charges &#124; Systema</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldest BitTorrent Site&#8217;s Admins Faces Criminal Charges &#124; Systema]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the authorities to try a different approach this time around since Allan Ellis was not convicted. The most worrying part in this and other cases is that private anti-piracy organizations have so [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the authorities to try a different approach this time around since Allan Ellis was not convicted. The most worrying part in this and other cases is that private anti-piracy organizations have so [...]</p>
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