PG alone is not a good idea. Like most anti-virus that can’t protect you of 100% of the viruses. But it’s better than nothing.

There. Fixed that for you.

Or really, why use much for blocklists at all …besides maybe blocking known ip ranges for anti-p2p agencies?
Internet WHOIS lookups can at least determine the “ownership” of some ips.

Does not provide any security. Tracking companies such a DtechNet know there are blacklists which filter out known IPs, so they will use ‘fresh’ IPs when tracking. Probably home computers or seedboxes just like you.

You can’t predict who is going to be a potential bad-guy. There are no ‘commercial’ IP blocks which are specific to the bad-guys. Wake up!

Also, to address some other shitty excuses for security and p2p.

VPN – The VPN endpoint which you will pay for (whether you go via a VPN broker or run on your own machine) is still registered to you. You still have to pay someone something somehow, and thus there’s a paper trail back to you. A VPN won’t stop a lawsuit if the person you’re downloading from is a bad-guy.

Proxy’s – Are dumb for two reasons:
1) Very rare to find public anon proxy’s which don’t tell other proxies in the chain where the packet is going. Most proxy chains work by just layering the data with routing packets. This provides no additional obscurity what so ever.
If it’s not a public proxy (and thus you can be sure that it’s a real anon proxy which isn’t caching) you probably own it, in which case – that’s right – you’re still busted.

The second reason it’s stupid is that it ruins your latency and throughput. p2p is slow enough as it is…

There’s only one way to stay ‘safe’, and that’s to download from a party who you KNOW isn’t a bad-guy, and ONLY from that party.

AND

To make sure all packets between you and that party are encrypted.

Hmm.. if only there was a technology which implemented these things…
Some sort of, large database of anonymously uploaded content…
Where that content was all stored on one server and you could connect to that one server via SSL or TLS…

Oh wait, silly me – it does exist.

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not hard to locate and find anti pirate compys

theres loads of tools // whois sites out there even windows netstat can be used on your tcp

Thanks.

However, as the Pirate Bay’s trial demonstrated, they’ll probably win, and one of Australia’s better ISPs will end up getting f**ked.

i wonder if that has been made clear to jury?

and lets not get started that its completely infeasible for someone to understand the complexity of a operating system, hell the most widely used os are CLOSED source.
so how the hell can one say that the system is secure enough for it to not be compromised. even in this ever changing world attack which reside in the memory of the machine can be used a proxy and therefore completely rubbish any idea of a owner of the machine to be responsible.

fact is machines are untrustworthy with out a trusted model and chain of trust of which NO machines have to day.

No, not the only one, it is a ridiculous statement and I cant believe it wasnt challenged right then and there…

We will just have to wait and see if it comes up again….

Do tell of this independant testing, because every testing I’ve seen (including by Slyck, by the University of Washington etc.) have said it’s a placebo. I think the study you’re referring to is the one that starts off with the assumption that the lists are accurate, with no false positives and all antip2p IPs listed. With that (clearly false) assumption, then yes, lists work.

In short, they don’t work and never have. In fact, they can even filter (according to TF’s own Ben Jones) to determine who is using PeerGuardian. And adding DtecNet, would that be like adding MediaDefender? You know where a month after the only ever public release of antiP2P addresses, the lists only had 3% of them (but the lists have 33% of the net in the lists – 10x worse than if they’d added at random doesn’t seem very safe)

@11 – I have a lucky t-shirt. I wear it during a thunderstorm, and it’s prevented me from being struck by lightning.

Piracy will come to an end soon enough. All hail big labels. lol

Er, surely you mean turn your router off and on? ;P

Shows you where the members of RFUKT are at.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/news/local/news/general/music-fee-hike-backfires/1646165.aspx
Music fee hike backfires
12/10/2009 9:08:00 AM
A PUSH by Australian record companies to make clubs, hotels, restaurants and cafes pay tens of millions of dollars more in fees to play their music has backfired.

Businesses have decided to turn off tunes licensed by the record companies and play the music of artists that are not signed to major labels.

The scheme would have increased some license fees from around $500 to almost $36,000.

A Clubs Australia spokesman was unable to say how many central Victorian businesses would have been slugged with the drastic cost hike.

“We’re talking about every restaurant, cafe and club being affected,” the spokesman said yesterday.

The fee changes would have resulted in businesses such as the Bendigo Club, which staff said yesterday had a bistro capacity of about 50, paying $3075.80 instead of the usual $62.04.

Bendigo District RSL staff said their bistro had a capacity of about 120, which would have increased fees by about $8500.

Clubs Australia announced at its annual general meeting a new scheme that would allow clubs to bypass the license fee charged by record companies.

Clubs Australia will set up a program to source and distribute the music of artists not signed to major record labels and who are consequently exempt from the restaurant tariff.

As part of the new scheme, local musicians will be given the opportunity to sell their music in clubs, while money earned from the sale of background music CDs will be used to establish a fund for talented Australian musicians.

From December 1, the Phonographic Performance Company of Australia will increase the tariff required every year by all clubs, hotels, restaurants and cafes wanting to play background music.

Clubs Australia chief executive officer David Costello said the PPCA was an organisation whose board members included senior executives at EMI Music, Warner Music, Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music.

“It’s well known that record labels have suffered a decline in CD sales due to illegal downloads. If this is about countering falling revenue for the big music companies, then they should be addressing music piracy,” Mr Costello said.

“Expecting the club and restaurant industry to make up for lower CD sales is not only unfair but as we have seen today, certain to fail.

“Two years ago the PPCA increased the fee for recorded music in nightclubs by 1400 per cent as well as announcing it is increasing the fee for music played in gyms by 5000 per cent.

“The music labels are working their way through the dozens of music tariffs paid by small businesses.

“It seems only a matter of time before the PPCA increases fees for music on hold, jukeboxes, conference and pool rooms, squash courts and even swimming pools.

“Clubs are today drawing a line in the sand and will no longer use music licensed by the big Australian record labels that requires they pay an annual fee to the PPCA.”

A PPCA spokeswoman said Clubs Australia was “perfectly entitled” to go in another direction.

“The rates give artists and labels a fair and reasonable deal and were the subject of extensive consultation with the industry,” she said.

Shows what a dire state this world is in where companies have to be told how to do business by their customers.

Corporate incompetance

So wear your internet prophylactic and do your part!

LoL, Seriously, thats the reason I simply linked all of you to the forums, you can decide for yourselves, from there it’s easy enough to find the DL if you decide to give it a try…

The PeerGuardian and BISS teams were investigating them and adding their IPs to the blocklists 5+ months ago.

When asked about IP Filtering down to a particular ISP, he said it was not. I think ITNews misquoted….

Get off the public sites, Thats a real measure of safety. Not fool proof but infinitely better then PG. Dont believe me? Dont care.

We need idiots on crap pages like TPB. They keep the attention of the real sites.