If your ISP is privately owned, they have a vested interest in providing the most convenient, open, unencumbered connections available in order to attract more clients.

If your ISP is owned by a Media conglomerate, they have a vested interest in providing the most crippled, caged in, restrictive connections in order to continue bilking uninformed clownsumers out of money for things they’ve already paid for twice.

Time Warner & Paramount should just start advertising their movies on TPB and Google, with .torrent links and extra CocaCola / FOXNews ads inserted to cover the perceived loss of revenue.

People make the products you enjoy, and you should have to pay for them. I you dont want to pay, you be prepared to do without the product.

No, I dont work for AFACT either.

Sounds about right to me!

Requesting the ISP to sever the customer’s connection based on unverified evidence is equivalent to roporting Mr. Baron as a paedophile to his doctor, and demand his penis cut off.

/sarcasm off

The costs of defending the AFACT case had amounted to $4m AUD (approx $3.7m US).

cant win legally, do it by bullying via financial superiority that way dont need to worry about right, wrong, morality, law

Next thing Australia will see is a report similar to Mandy’s digital Britian, where George Orwell’s worst nightmares start to be realised and the civil rights and freedoms the people have fought for over so many centuries are removed. All in the name of a $$$ or two by some backward thinking people who cannot for the life of them embrace the wonderful change that technology allows and develop suitable business models with “all you can eat”, or very cheap products. After all they are competing with a free service.

Simple economics and the laws of supply and demand dictate that either scarcity of supply, or high consumer demand which creates scarcity of supply affect price. Any form of artificial price fixing will create “new” markets.

Consumers are no longer as willing to pay the same overly inflated prices for a product that has so many restrictions upon it and that has not kept up with the times in terms of a media format that they want it to be delivered in. Consumers dictate to the market, not the suppliers.

I really don’t think the studios understand the large backlash that is starting to forment against them and their bullyboy tactics and that it is probably only a matter of time before someone goes “Postal” in a Tim McVey style attack on the “corrupt corporate” establishment.

Middle Earth is saved.

i think to get the $4 Million back they would have to sue AFACT and have another court case.

No..if they win they are awarded ‘costs’ which includes all legal fees incurred

The law is clear. No Cigar for AFACT. They obviously are doing this to scare ISPs into doing something.

Sony entertainment intends to sue Sony electronics for supplying a cammer with a camera!!

How bout the mafiaa goons fine someone a fair amount ie. the price of a movie ticket rather than 10000x a movie ticket for a inferior (cam) copy of there ‘copyrighted material”

They will get your money in some way from most of us (movie ticket, dvd sale, dvd rental etc). But still want more than there pound of flesh from all of us!!

If iiNet somehow lose this case, this will be a clear message that the music industry will always get it’s way no matter which side of the law they are on.

Boycott CDs & DVDs and get a VPN service. Thats the only way you can ensure your privacy is kept intact.

Also, seems AFACT wants to close down the internet. ISPs that do not assume their clients are guilt without further verification and refuse to disconnect them without explicit and official order from the court are the ones that follow the right, sane and fair model.

The ones that limit users or agree to disconnect them without any legal basis on a private agreement with corrupt labels are the ones that should be shut down. And they will eventually fail as their cleints discover the truth and move away from them.

It’s a matter of time the big ones fall down. They are digging their graves faster than ever.

Desperate corporations are making such a fuss-

At last they seem to want to give us some credit-

but once again I think we’ll live to regret it-

Not so long ago to them we didnt exist-

Narrow minded views, they printed, they couldnt resist-

Trying so hard to slag and kill filesharing dead-

But we’ve embarrased them by getting bigger instead-

They still dont understand that people like what they like-

We’re not all sheep who follow the commands that they write-

They try to convince and dictate whats cool-

But we are filesharers, and we dont live by this rule-

When it suits, they’ll try and destroy us once more-

Please dont forget the time that they tried it before-

Bring on they’re best but dont forget the cry-

Filesharing will NEVER DIE.

In there terms it would be lock that person up, because I think they might perform a violent crime..

And as for the get out of buisness..

should we sue Sony etc for producing the vdeo recorder, cd and DVD and now blu ray recorders, what about the computer manifactures for producing equipmnt that bit torrent can run on or even better microsoft for an opperating system that can run torrent / buring / video compression and editing software

They will still lose, but its not fair and is the court bending to the money of the real pirates

I could write a book listing all the ‘facilities’ able to be used.

We don’t hold gun mfgs liable for murders.

They’re not stupid, they’re evil and greedy. Satan loves RIAA/MPAA.

– If this isnt clear evidence of these evil bastards agenda i dont know what is. Whats next? AFACT endorsed book burnings??

The similaraties to the French revolution are rather scary. The aristrocacy pissed people off, but ultimately the government and they’re “endorsed” media outlets, attempts to stop “piracy” and dictate what media was “acceptable” pushed people over the edge – result – revolution and a major change in law all over europe.

These pro-copyright groups are trying to undo hundreds of years of evolution in society.
I believe we are reaching a counterpoint, but we’re not quite there yet. Either these AFACT types will loose, or they will win – we have a revolution – and then they loose. It boggles my mind how these arseholes can ignore the past and push for a totalitarian system.

Hundreds of years from now, people will look back and pity groups like AFACT for not being able to see beyond they’re own wallets.

The VCR will destroy the movie industry! – FAIL
The cassette tape will destroy the music industry! – FAIL
The photocopier will destroy the publishing industry! – FAIL

The golden age of the compact disc is over, they should just suck it up =)

I’ll tell you why – because every person they sue will never ever buy a Sony anything ever again. The people that person talks to will be discouraged from buying Sony products when he tells them what happened.

All this shit about getting ISPs to send their customers notices is about who has to give the customer the bad news.
There’s no reason why Sony can’t get a court-order to release the name/address of an individual from the ISP under the current system of law.

F*cking Scumbags.

I refuse to go any longer to a theater or to buy any new movies ever again.Don’t worry there will be enough fools out there to support the mafia greedbags so we can buy their used films and keep hollywood out of our wallet.Wake up folks !!!
Stop feeding these pigs and their greedbag industry.

on the same note again, “But if the content isn’t made there’s nothing the BitTorrent client can do to infringe,” so shutdown all the afact partners.

I believe that piracy is morally questionable, but I would not have even heard the case if it were up to me. As it stands, I would rule in iiNet’s favor, and force AFACT to pay their legal fees. I would then penalize them a minimum of $25,000 for frivolous litigation. Their behavior is simply a malicious attempt to undermine the laws of Australia, and an example should be made for future reference.

They can’t force isps to comply, so they try to make them go bankrupt by making wtf-ish trials.

Since they nearly have unlimited money, even if they have dumb lawyers, they might succeed and get to buy the smaller isps in the end.

What we’d need is a class action against those lobbies, once they are sentenced to a several billions fine, for showing wrong testimonies, abusing Justice’s time and lying to their consumers (where’s the serious study showing filesharing hurts majors’ bilancies?), they should calm down.

Yeah, I also have no lawful obligation to stop any physical violence, next to me or anywhere in the world. If another guy told me to stop violence that was happening next to me and I didn’t, he can’t sue me for it.

Same goes for the ISP. They are clearly protected under law, so what is the point in this whole waste of time?

lol That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read this week…