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		<title>By: Gro Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gro Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are the five game developers Davenport represents?  

In the Reuters article above it says Atari, Techland and Codemasters. I assume the fourth is Zuxxez Entertainment (makers of Dream Pinball). So who&#039;s the fifth?

Any ideas what games they are targetting?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the five game developers Davenport represents?  </p>
<p>In the Reuters article above it says Atari, Techland and Codemasters. I assume the fourth is Zuxxez Entertainment (makers of Dream Pinball). So who&#8217;s the fifth?</p>
<p>Any ideas what games they are targetting?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: uk-media-consumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>uk-media-consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone clarify something for me please?

if using a p2p client with forced encryption, can ISP&#039;s only see packet headers? if so, the payload of the packet is hidden. (torrenting freeware FTW). 

european law has clarified that IP traffic is personally identifiable information, with this in mind, is the use of sandvine etc. a breach of the Data Protection Act on the part of ISP&#039;s.

ISP&#039;s do not own the network or the traffic. right? just the hardware?

MY POINT: if ISP&#039;s use DPI to identify the payload of a packet, are they breaking the law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can anyone clarify something for me please?</p>
<p>if using a p2p client with forced encryption, can ISP&#8217;s only see packet headers? if so, the payload of the packet is hidden. (torrenting freeware FTW). </p>
<p>european law has clarified that IP traffic is personally identifiable information, with this in mind, is the use of sandvine etc. a breach of the Data Protection Act on the part of ISP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>ISP&#8217;s do not own the network or the traffic. right? just the hardware?</p>
<p>MY POINT: if ISP&#8217;s use DPI to identify the payload of a packet, are they breaking the law?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/alleged-uk-games-pirates-offered-free-legal-advice-080825/#comment-489723</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, quick PS, hysterical crap suggesting that someone like Mike Coyle is anything other than he says he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, quick PS, hysterical crap suggesting that someone like Mike Coyle is anything other than he says he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike is well respected, and the work he does through Lawdit is pretty much legendary. I would hesitate to suggest that he is jumping on any bandwagon, and those who are lucky enough to be represented by him should have no cause for regret.

Good luck guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike is well respected, and the work he does through Lawdit is pretty much legendary. I would hesitate to suggest that he is jumping on any bandwagon, and those who are lucky enough to be represented by him should have no cause for regret.</p>
<p>Good luck guys</p>
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		<title>By: spacer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/alleged-uk-games-pirates-offered-free-legal-advice-080825/#comment-489274</link>
		<dc:creator>spacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Remember he also works for so-called copyright holders.

Playing Devil&#039;s advocate for a second, you could suggest that Mr Coyle is in bed with a software company looking for info on potential sharers of their software. 

IP logs and other harvesting techniques may be fallible, but admit your misdemeanours to Mikey boy and he&#039;s got it there in black and white!

What better way to catch people than to offer &quot;free legal advice&quot; in order to gather evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Remember he also works for so-called copyright holders.</p>
<p>Playing Devil&#8217;s advocate for a second, you could suggest that Mr Coyle is in bed with a software company looking for info on potential sharers of their software. </p>
<p>IP logs and other harvesting techniques may be fallible, but admit your misdemeanours to Mikey boy and he&#8217;s got it there in black and white!</p>
<p>What better way to catch people than to offer &#8220;free legal advice&#8221; in order to gather evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Pixelated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixelated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s so awesome. Props to that man for understanding the dark side of the laws that allow these &quot;Lawyers&quot; to exploit our justice systems. Sounds like a good dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so awesome. Props to that man for understanding the dark side of the laws that allow these &#8220;Lawyers&#8221; to exploit our justice systems. Sounds like a good dude.</p>
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		<title>By: stellamanna</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/alleged-uk-games-pirates-offered-free-legal-advice-080825/#comment-489162</link>
		<dc:creator>stellamanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 4, i think torrentfreak is a cool site with interesting articles. if you dont want to educate yourself could i suggest www.imadumbfuck.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 4, i think torrentfreak is a cool site with interesting articles. if you dont want to educate yourself could i suggest <a href="http://www.imadumbfuck.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.imadumbfuck.com?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Digitalis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digitalis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe all this BS.  I guess extortion is legal for copyright holders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe all this BS.  I guess extortion is legal for copyright holders.</p>
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		<title>By: Welshie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welshie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the online community breathes a collective sigh of belief...

Thanks Ernesto for this important story, and than you Michael Coyle &amp; all at LAWDIT for giving help &amp; hope to all those wrongly accused of filesharing copyrighted materials!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the online community breathes a collective sigh of belief&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks Ernesto for this important story, and than you Michael Coyle &amp; all at LAWDIT for giving help &amp; hope to all those wrongly accused of filesharing copyrighted materials!</p>
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		<title>By: Barse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is awaiting moderation? What happened there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is awaiting moderation? What happened there?</p>
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		<title>By: Davenport Lyons will be my bitch!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davenport Lyons will be my bitch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see? There are decent people in the world. Cheers to you Michael. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see? There are decent people in the world. Cheers to you Michael. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Barse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t even see my next-door neighbours&#039; wifi.

I doubt that much wifi theft occurs - people just wouldn&#039;t be bothered. Why not just use your own internet connection at home? 

@15: Yes, I CAN see hundreds of people pirating this. People will pirate $5 DVDs and music or just anything - it&#039;s just so much easier than buying it - then you have to go to a shop, or at least find your credit card number to buy online. That is NOT to say that everyone accused in this case did download the game.

Will Michael Coyle take on cases where people admit to downloading the game? What is currently the best strategy if you did actually do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even see my next-door neighbours&#8217; wifi.</p>
<p>I doubt that much wifi theft occurs &#8211; people just wouldn&#8217;t be bothered. Why not just use your own internet connection at home? </p>
<p>@15: Yes, I CAN see hundreds of people pirating this. People will pirate $5 DVDs and music or just anything &#8211; it&#8217;s just so much easier than buying it &#8211; then you have to go to a shop, or at least find your credit card number to buy online. That is NOT to say that everyone accused in this case did download the game.</p>
<p>Will Michael Coyle take on cases where people admit to downloading the game? What is currently the best strategy if you did actually do it?</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 15 I can hit and piggyback at least 8 in my street and only 2 are secure, well secure for the 2 minutes it takes to break their wep. Can you realy see hundreds of people downloading a shitty 8 gbp pinball game. This is just a way to extort and frighten people into paying money to nothing more than crooks. A friend of mine got a letter and he was not even in the country and his pc &amp; router was off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 15 I can hit and piggyback at least 8 in my street and only 2 are secure, well secure for the 2 minutes it takes to break their wep. Can you realy see hundreds of people downloading a shitty 8 gbp pinball game. This is just a way to extort and frighten people into paying money to nothing more than crooks. A friend of mine got a letter and he was not even in the country and his pc &amp; router was off.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA! What a guy!

It would be nice to have a guy like that in the US if worse comes to worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA! What a guy!</p>
<p>It would be nice to have a guy like that in the US if worse comes to worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davenport Lyons are taking a typical shotgun approach - blast out as many letters as possible and hope they hit some of the right people.

Even if some people have DLed the pinball game there are plenty who haven&#039;t and they deserve the right of reply to the accusations.

Props to Michael Coyle for giving them the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davenport Lyons are taking a typical shotgun approach &#8211; blast out as many letters as possible and hope they hit some of the right people.</p>
<p>Even if some people have DLed the pinball game there are plenty who haven&#8217;t and they deserve the right of reply to the accusations.</p>
<p>Props to Michael Coyle for giving them the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Privacy Unassured</title>
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		<dc:creator>Privacy Unassured</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unsecured wifi bids the question at what range does that connection become unstable therfore making it useless to a potential Wifi hijacker, hell i cant get a stable connection when the router is downstairs and the laptop is upstairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unsecured wifi bids the question at what range does that connection become unstable therfore making it useless to a potential Wifi hijacker, hell i cant get a stable connection when the router is downstairs and the laptop is upstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The majority WILL have downloaded that sh1tty pinball game and haven&#039;t got a case to fight.&quot;

I&#039;m sure plenty of people have downloaded it, but I&#039;m also sure that plenty of others haven&#039;t. Davenport Lyons doesn&#039;t seem to be the type of group to care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The majority WILL have downloaded that sh1tty pinball game and haven&#8217;t got a case to fight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure plenty of people have downloaded it, but I&#8217;m also sure that plenty of others haven&#8217;t. Davenport Lyons doesn&#8217;t seem to be the type of group to care.</p>
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		<title>By: NastyBedazzler</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/alleged-uk-games-pirates-offered-free-legal-advice-080825/#comment-489048</link>
		<dc:creator>NastyBedazzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was so awesome for me to read, thanks Torrent Freak for good articles like this one.

Things like this seem to be a rare occurrence in the torrenting world, it&#039;s good to see someone with some position of power that seems to &quot;get it&quot; and is willing to help out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was so awesome for me to read, thanks Torrent Freak for good articles like this one.</p>
<p>Things like this seem to be a rare occurrence in the torrenting world, it&#8217;s good to see someone with some position of power that seems to &#8220;get it&#8221; and is willing to help out.</p>
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		<title>By: s2pid</title>
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		<dc:creator>s2pid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Morning,

Top of the day to you Michael Coyle.
The good work keeps getting better.

TC,

Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning,</p>
<p>Top of the day to you Michael Coyle.<br />
The good work keeps getting better.</p>
<p>TC,</p>
<p>Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said by gadgit:

&quot;The majority WILL have downloaded that sh1tty pinball game and haven&#039;t got a case to fight.&quot;

Judging from the number of posts on Slyck.com denying that they ever downloaded or shared Dream Pinball 3D, or any of the other games Davenport Lyons is sending people legal threat letters over, it is likely that the opposite is true. In many cases, it appears to be due to unsecured wi-fi. And some say Logistep&#039;s methods of identifying potential infringers is even worse
than that of Media Sentry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said by gadgit:</p>
<p>&#8220;The majority WILL have downloaded that sh1tty pinball game and haven&#8217;t got a case to fight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Judging from the number of posts on Slyck.com denying that they ever downloaded or shared Dream Pinball 3D, or any of the other games Davenport Lyons is sending people legal threat letters over, it is likely that the opposite is true. In many cases, it appears to be due to unsecured wi-fi. And some say Logistep&#8217;s methods of identifying potential infringers is even worse<br />
than that of Media Sentry.</p>
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