Scientology Hackers Ask Pirates To Join Their War
Written by Ernesto on January 27, 2008Anonymous, a small group of scriptkiddies and high-level hackers started a war against the Church of Scientology this week. TorrentFreak managed to get an exclusive Q&A with the controversial group, in which they ask Pirates to join their fight.
In an attempt to punish Scientology for abusing copyright laws and brainwashing of its members, Anonymous launched a series of DDoS attacks to remove the Church from the Internet. It seems, however, like this this is only the beginning.
“We will continue our efforts to bring down Scientology, but we need the help and support of another Freedom fighting community, the pirates.” one of Anonymous’ members told TorrentFreak, and the group gave us the opportunity to ask a couple of more questions.
TorrentFreak: Can you briefly describe what “Project Chanology” is?
Anonymous: Project Chanology is the project to bring down Scientology. Nothing more, nothing less. Why that name? Well, we’re working from IRC ‘Channels’ against ‘Scientology’. Mix those words together and add the project in front, and you have it.
TorrentFreak: How did Anonymous start? and how many people take part in it?
Anonymous: Anonymous is an old group of friends. I don’t exactly know the date, but it has been raised by some friends who wanted to test out their hacking skills. Since then, they created Anonymous, and let it be open for anyone who wants to join. That made it into a new kind of hackers-group. It consists of two spheres. The outer sphere is for new people. They mostly are low-skilled and are “scriptkiddies”. Since they have a very good contact with the inner sphere (we’re all friends fast and easily), anyone is allowed to join the inner sphere of high-level hackers. This is a loose representation since it doesn’t fit always. But, this made it for sure into a group of scriptkiddies with the right tools and high-level hackers with the right skills.
TorrentFreak: What is your main motivation to ban Scientology from the Internet?
Anonymous: Scientology is a malicious organization. Here’s a YouTube clip that proves more. Also, they’re frequently taking off content from the Internet. Like a clip in which Cruise promotes Scientology too much, criticizing health science, etc… it would have brought Scientology in a bad situation. So they took it off all sites with an army of lawyers. This is censoring. This is bad. This is against Net Neutrality. This is taking away our freedom and our right to fight for that freedom.
TorrentFreak: Don’t you think your actions violate the freedom of speech?
Anonymous: It does violate the freedom of speech. Of course, we know that. But there should be a refinement. Anonymous fights for freedom of speech in a way they have always used, but a little bit rougher however. For a greater sake.
TorrentFreak: Do you see any parallels between your fight against Scientology and the conflicts between pirates and the entertainment industry?
Anonymous: Yes. Most of us are pirates too. We have no big money to start lawsuits. But the enemy, the MAFIAA and Scientology are both big companies. They misguide the law, they change the law. Scientology members have infiltrated in many governments. Just like the MAFIAA.
TorrentFreak: What is your ultimate goal for “Operation Chanology”?
Anonymous: Our ultimate goal is to let Scientology say in public that they are misleading many people. And that they are destroying the futures of many people.
TorrentFreak: How do you plan to accomplish this goal, apart from the DDoS attacks?
Anonymous: We have IRL raids in planning stage, we have real life protests and demonstrations coming up. We are infiltrating their networks with zip bombs. We are sentencing them.
TorrentFreak: You told us that you wanted the pirates to help you to free the Internet, how can people help?
Anonymous: People can help Anonymous by joining the IRC, get one of the DDoS tools and start firing the DoS. IRC is at irc.partyvan.org. Channels are #Target , #Lazer and #Xenu. There are also many local channels. They can also help us by joining protests, by telling other people about this, by telling their media, etc… The force of humanity will save many lives.
…
Update: As many already argued, it turns out that the person interviewed here is an Anonymous member from the “outer sphere”, who is not as informed as he appeared to be. Sorry.
“I know that I’m not as informed as the inner sphere. However, I had a source which I thought was from there, providing me many answers. He faked his status.
But we do not have one spokesperson. We do not have a leader.
We unite as one, divided by none.
Together, we will bring them down in their glory.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.”
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‘Anonymous, a *small* group’
DUDE, are you kidding me?
hail xenu!
Obviously the people don’t understand the definition of anonymous. Let me help, courtesy M-W.
Main Entry:
anon·y·mous Listen to the pronunciation of anonymous
Pronunciation:
\ə-ˈnä-nə-məs\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Late Latin anonymus, from Greek anōnymos, from a- + onyma name — more at name
Date:
1631
1 : not named or identified
2 : of unknown authorship or origin
3 : lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability
So, yes. If this is a surprise to anyone reading this, you are anonymous if you’d not be so lazy and actually think about it.
IF you still need help figuring this out, just give up.
Oh snap!
VERY SMALL INDEED, MY GOOD SIR.
lols
ITI: wink wink nudge nudge lies
lols
I think this is a great oppertunity that needs taking advantage of for anon and the pirate community. We can help them acheve their goals of riding the internet of scientology and show that you can’t fool the masses. By the same token they might want to help us out with our fight against the rediculous laws the recording and copyright orgnizations have put into place by fighting back against them in the same fasion. This could relly me a turning point for many people and really promote change in a positive direction.
we have reviewed most of the data we can find on scientology,
we have come to the conclusion they are just as corrupt as the other religions, and as evil as the MPAA and RIAA and their army of lawyers.
You have our support.
if this fails we all fail, it will prove that a large overbearing power has the ability to silence us. This is why we must help it is in everyones interest other then Scientology,the RIAA and MPAA
Allow me to say quite simply, you have *completely* missed the point of who and what we are.
Torrent freak got ripped off. This isn’t anonymous
This is probably the most ridiculous article I’ve ever read on Torrentfreak, in fact I can’t even believe it was posted.
Scientology is a crazy religion but so what? So is Christianity and most others. You want to destroy their web presence because of some clip you saw on YouTube that proves of their brainwashing? Dude, have you people ever been to church? Ever been to catachysm? Ever been baptised while you were an infant and had no say in the matter? Religion works BECAUSE it brainwashes. Scientologists are no different.
And besides, they have the right to protect their works (referring to the Tom Cruise clip that leaked). Just like people do in the movie business. I’ll still download movies for free, but they can at least try to protect their assets. It makes no difference to me. Goddamn, you guys are pathetic. Do your parents know what you’re up to? Maybe they should take away your internet privileges.
Interesting. I’ll scope out the war and decide if I should put me hacking skills to use.
Necromanson, if you’d stop spewing your righteous liberal-babble and take a look at what the hell anonymous puts out there via torrent, you’d see Scientology isn’t a religion. It’s a business.
Or did you just lolassume that Scientology is a religion and decided to open your mouth out because you love hearing/reading your words?
fuking scriptkiddies. let’s see you do this to MAFIAA?
There’s ALOT of people involved in this now. It started roughly a week ago and the participants is growing with 100+ a day.
So far Anons managed to shutdown many scientology sites, including the protected main site.
Phones have been prankcalled all over the world forcing some churches to unplug or not answer for now. Faxes has been bombed by fullyblack pages. And much more.
This is not a small group. It might have started with 50ish but it’s much much larger now.
What the hell is scientology all about? Do they have a God? or is money their God?
Seems people into this shit are really f&$#ed in the head.
Necromanson, instead of the standard internet atheist knee-jerk response about how *ALL* religions are bad, realize that this isn’t about the religion per se, it’s criminal institution Church of Scientologists that will and needs to to be destroyed.
[quote]What the hell is scientology all about? Do they have a God? or is money their God?[/quote]
Get ready to laugh your ass off. Seriously, what they believe is utter insanity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology
LOL SMALL CHAN=2CHAN,4CHAN,ETC.
THIS GUY IS STUPID
ANONYMOUS IS MANY, NO ONE PERSON CAN SPEAK FOR ANONYMOUS
DO SOME RESEARCH
I’m hoping this is a bad attempt at a troll, otherwise, please do research fix your mistakes.
Anonymous is not pleased. Anonymous does not give interviews. Anonymous giving an interview is like masturbation. Anonymous is everyone and no one. Anonymous has therefore decided that this is a failure.
As you see, this interviewed guy represents himself as multiple ones.
He talks about ‘we’.
He surely knows a lot, and is trying to get all attention, like it should be!
[quote comment="273098"]
Scientology is a crazy religion but so what? So is Christianity and most others.[/quote]
Contrary to popular belief, mainstream Christianity/Judaism/Hinduism in North America and Europe may have opinions about every matter under the sun, but no member of the majority of these religions argues that opposing viewpoints and arguments should be silenced [God gives us freedom, who are we to take its away, etc. etc. etc.].
Scientology is different, in that it fanatically seeks to suppress and annihilate (rather than disagree with and counter) any and all opposing arguments and viewpoints.
Not only that, but while the higher ranks of any religion hold individuals who hold absolutely no regard for the ideals of the religion, only cold-hearted greed for the money and power the position generates, only in scientology is the entire upper echelon composed of these sort of people [usually there's a ratio between bloodsucker/fanatics, there its all bloodsuckers].
Finally, in the past twenty years in the first world, the only major “religion”/cult to fanatically try to suppress destroy and illegalize all opposition (including by means of infiltrating government) is scientology.
So are scientology, Christianity, and all other religions crazy? Sure. But of them all, scientology is the most dangerous. Its what would happen in a Patriot Act supporter’s or MAFFIA supporter’s wet dream: total control over all information everywhere. Scary.
[quote]Well, we’re working from IRC ‘Channels’ against ‘Scientology’. Mix those words together and add the project in front, and you have it.[/quote]
Oh fuck, I was going to read the rest of this story until you said this, now I know you are an idiot. Ernesto, don’t post stupid shit.
Lawl.. Just, lawl…
Just pirate every piece of software Shitology owns.
Quite annoying when a group of people decide to take things into their own hands. Even though… unless you can show that they are brain washing members, I only see you as a group of idiots that don’t agree with another persons beliefs. As people have the right to spend their money any way they want. As for them removing informations from the internet. A bit extreme but any business has the right to defend them selfs in some fashion. Information will always be available in other places no matter what. So… in conclusion… Show me proof of brain washing or something in that general field and then we will work from their.
The reason a lot of people hate Scientology is because not only do they act like a business, but they also are extremists, they have a giant legal team just like the RIAA and MPAA, with which they abuse anyone or anything that criticizes their “religion”(business) . If you read this BBC article you can see where the reporter says he’s basically been stalked by random people since he outburst against a member of the “church”(Offices).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6650545.stm
check out operation clambake for more information @ xenu.net (another site that had legal action forced against it)
and @ #23
If you can’t fucking realize that torrentfreak is more than just torrents but the changes in our society regarding an upcoming 1984, you shouldn’t be here… fucking idiot, don’t criticize the posters they keep you informed.
^–>>>> http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
Anon is pathetic. They are even more hypocritical than the ones they attack, and they are the reason people are afraid of the internet.
ahh… so … ehh?? you know.. put it like this for the question.
In doing said act..
Will 2 wrongs make a right?
as elementary as this may seem… keep in mind that the US Government does the exact same thing. when are you planning on picking a fight with them?
i belive they are just trying to build an “army” first.
the US Government is strong,
FBI, CIA, NSA, NG, USN, USAF, SS,
military + reserves, regualar cop,
ect. they all take orders from the same place.
We are anonymous
We do not forgive
We do not forget
We are legion
Knowledge is free
Expect us
http://www.calloftheday.com/Message.html
Everybody NEEDS to see this.
there’s something really ****ed up when you try to fight intolerance with intolerance.
It’s like ****ing for virginity.
Sooner or later, all this intolerant groups will fell by their own faults, there’s no need to start a Jihad.
but jihads are fun
but Jihads are fun.
aww too bad their site has been hacked and taken down by The Regime: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%27The_Regime%27_hacks_711chan.org_in_response_to_%27Anonymous%27_attack_on_Scientology%3B_takes_web_site_off_line
GOOD! after we destroy scientooly let’s bring down them christian nutheads. Do a search for religious keywords and click all their adwords/yahoo/etc ads!
but jihads are fun!
you are all retarded.
anonymous is not a “high level hacker”, he’s a bunch of stupid trolls from 4chan.
[quote comment="273179"]you are all retarded.
anonymous is not a “high level hacker”, he’s a bunch of stupid trolls from 4chan.[/quote]
Learn how speak and write in english, then maybe someone will take you seriously.
[quote comment="273173"]aww too bad their site has been hacked and taken down by The Regime: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%27The_Regime%27_hacks_711chan.org_in_response_to_%27Anonymous%27_attack_on_Scientology%3B_takes_web_site_off_line/quote
lol
so another group called “the regime” steps up to the plate to take out “anon”
now we have a hacker war, yay
[quote comment="273179"]you are all retarded.
anonymous is not a “high level hacker”, he’s a bunch of stupid trolls from 4chan.[/quote]
Some Anonymous are - And any skill one Anonymous possesses, we all possess.
Scientologists are also everywhere…
be careful who you trust.
Worst article ever.
“aww too bad their site has been hacked and taken down by The Regime: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%27The_Regime%27_hacks_711chan.org_in_response_to_%27Anonymous%27_attack_on_Scientology%3B_takes_web_site_off_line”
lol xD
I don’t know who was interviewed here but they are either lying or clueless. Saying Anonymous started as a core “small” group of friends has to be one of the most ignorant things I’ve seen on the internets. Seriously, while this person may or may not even be involved in project chanology, they do not speak for anonymous and they shouldn’t be speaking to anyone, considering that they say stupid shit.
Hey you Anonymous dumbass, take that shit off ThePirateBay. They are going through enough shit as it is. They don’t need script kiddies to post DDoS tools on their site for download.
No, I won’t take it off.
I asked ThePirateBay if I’m allowed, and they said it wasn’t a problem.
FYI, if you join their IRC channel, you can get easily in contact with their moderators, even adminstrators!
This article is fail.
“Anonymous” is merely a collective of users from various communities who wish to remain anonymous while communicating with other users. GaiaOnline (QUALITY CONTROL), SA, etc. Its modern users think Anonymous is the zerg and must follow the will of the swarm. There are some with decent IT knowledge, but most of them just follow the rest and claim to be hackers.
I be in your comp illegaly downloading your thetans. But seriously, I was a Narconon employee for 2 years (it was a job), and these people are fkin wierd. Even as an employee, working through staff hats, we had to do alot of the crazy shit the people with more money than sense had to do in order to increase our staff level. Higher level = more pay. I couldnt really see the point of focusing intention be shouting at an ashtray, or staring at someone for an hour without luaghing (its quite hard to do) or taking a lump of clay and modeling ‘reality’. Glad I immigrated when I did, or I may be some suit wearing zombie.
eBaumsWorld FUCK YEAH!
Thanks torrentfreak; your quality has been slowly going down over time, but this has been the last straw.
You’re presonnly trying to cause harm and damage to a company/religion here, and that’s just stupid. It’s bad enough to write an article here that barely relates to file sharing, but it’s another when you encourage users to help these guys out.
[quote comment="273197"]This article is fail.
[/quote]
[quote comment="273152"]We are anonymous
We do not forgive
We do not forget
We are legion
Knowledge is free
Expect us[/quote]
In all seriousness, this is the most ridiculous thing ever, just look at how these guys are talking. It’s almost as if the Matrix just came out and everybody is pretending to be a hacker. Are you guys going to nuke me?
Say what you want about Scientology, I still maintain that they are no more fucked-up than any other religion. Christianity has its fair share (a majority, actually) of cover-ups, they just don’t respond with a legal team (that’s what the Vatican is for). And to say that they are the only religion that is money-driven is insane.
your right it is insane
but it is still fun to watch them duke it out
I think that this Anonymous group is being a tad ridiculous with what they’re saying, but I can see where they’re coming from.
But I think you should read all you wrote and listen to what you sound like. It’s not good.
As I am Atheist, I found Scientology kind of… out of control.
Well, How is DDOSing their website going to do anything? Oh there website is down big woop.
*grabs popcorn*
Let’s watch the fun :D
[quote comment="273226"]As I am Atheist, I found Scientology kind of… out of control.
Well, How is DDOSing their website going to do anything? Oh there website is down big woop.
*grabs popcorn*
Let’s watch the fun :D[/quote]
i miss the days of pitchfork’s and torches
Their “ultimate goal” is completely deluded. Scientology will never admit or say such things. The only way to destroy scientology is through informing people about their nefarious ways, not silencing their propaganda online. These hackers tactics are about as smart as the MPAA/RIAA’s tactics against file sharing. Project Dumbshit needs to focus on informing the public and exposing Scientology secrets. An information campaign of sorts. Something to garner mass attention.
both digg and stumble upon have been doing just that
This isn’t anonymous!
I AM ANONYMOUS
why did they pick the name ANONYMOUS
their hacker rivals picked a decent sounding name, evil sounding but decent
[quote comment="273145"]Anon is pathetic. They are even more hypocritical than the ones they attack, and they are the reason people are afraid of the internet.[/quote]
People are afraid of the internet? Where? What people? My friends Grandma who tells him goodnight over MSN? Yeah, she’s terrified; shakin’ in her little booties!
pff, amateur…
[quote comment="273154"]www.calloftheday.com/Message.html
Everybody NEEDS to see this.[/quote]
To the common Scientologists,
We are Anonymous.
You have seen our actions, both online and in your cities.
We do not threaten you, the people.
We threaten the lies, the corruption and the greed of the organization.
We have not acted upon a whim, but in outrage of the treatment of its followers…
You.
You have not been given freedom by these people.
They have restricted you.
There is a realm of the internet you have not dared to face,
because they said so, and because they have stopped you by technological means.
There are those who have left your community.
They have seen the facts behind the leader and the original intent of the religion.
Your religious beliefs are not wrong, like any other religion, and they are yours to keep.
However beliefs should not come at a price. Not from your wallet or compromising your thoughts.
Those who have left feel a new life, a rebirth into true freedom.
You can join them if you wish.
You may not believe us. We ask of you one thing:
Make up your own mind.
That is a sentence of more profound meaning for you now than at any other time in your life.
Visit the facts.
Make up your own mind.
You are not alone.
Direct Download link: Here(right click and save as..)
Whoever you interviewed either fucking trolled you for the lulz,
or they themselves are retarded and have no idea what anonymous is.
;0
OP here, disregard this blog post, I suck cocks.
Terrible idea. He who would secure his own liberty must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
i went to the main page for shitology and this is there opening statement:
The word Scientology literally means “the study of truth.” It comes from the Latin word “scio” meaning “knowing in the fullest sense of the word” and the Greek word “logos” meaning “study of.”
Scientology is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, others and all of life. The Scientology religion comprises a body of knowledge extending from certain fundamental truths. Prime among these:
Man is an immortal, spiritual being. His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime. His capabilities are unlimited, even if not presently realized — and those capabilities can be realized. He is able to not only solve his own problems, accomplish his goals and gain lasting happiness, but also achieve new, higher states of awareness and ability.
In Scientology no one is asked to accept anything as belief or on faith. That which is true for you is what you have observed to be true. An individual discovers for himself that Scientology works by personally applying its principles and observing or experiencing results.
Through Scientology, people all over the world are achieving the long-sought goal of true spiritual release and freedom
Bunch of misinformed elitist-wannabe internet snobs that just love typing.
Scientology is not a freaking religion. Think about WHY they feel the need to call themselves the CHURCH of Scientology so much?
IF you call them the CHURCH of Scientology, through association, you begin to think of their Scientology as a religion.
Congratulations, you have been socially engineered.
Elron is proud.
Stop spewing your self-righteous nonsense and just read the files on torrent. You’ll be surprised on your assumptions about Scientology and what’s actually the reality. It’s Scientologies’ own documents, not Anonymous’.
Any of you cock-knockers really want to know about 2nd rate SciFi author L. Ron hubbard’s wacky ‘invent-a-religion-to-get-rich’ idea, ought to get (and read - that bit is quite important) the book:
Bare faced Messiah by Russell Miller:
http://www.amazon.com/Bare-faced-Messiah-Russell-Miller/dp/0718127641
P.S. @ the mansontard: Shit boy, yew about tha dumbest sack of sheit I evah came across on thissy-here interenet. WHOO-EE DAWGY!
further probing of uranus digs up this little nugget… smells like victory for Chanology!
Anonymouse shills:
Well, it’s a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there’s a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as the Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.
Uncle Tom quips:
So who’s in this Pentavirate?
narcoAnonymous blathers:
The Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tets-up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee beady eyes! And that smug look on his face, “Oh, you’re gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!”
Buck Nasty axes:
Dad, how can you hate the Colonel?
Anonymoose extols:
Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartarse!
…for the full story ask yer mom…
What an absolutely terrific biography of lunatic-at-large, the late founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard! Miller exposes Hubbard for the cynical, not to mention grandiose and megalomaniacal fraud that he was. From birth to death, Miller leaves no stone unturned in showing the reader that Hubbard was a disturbed, pathological liar who embellished almost every aspect of his life. From reading the book, I got the impression that every second word out of Hubbard’s mouth was a lie. That an entire “religion” has been built on the writings and pronouncements of this man is nothing short of incredible (and worrying). Exactly how did Hubbard come up with the principles of Dianetics? Unfortunately, Miller sheds no light on exactly where Dianetics came from and what kind of “research” Hubbard did for it, but reading between the lines, I gather that Hubbard wrote it off the top of his head, an accusation later levelled at him by one of his sons. Hubbard had always said that the best way to make millions was to found a new religion, and he set out to do just that. I was intrigued by Miller’s description of the faux-arcane rigmarole and vocabulary of Scientology, ie. the E-Meter, “auditing”, “pre-clears” and “clears”, “operating thetans”, etc. Hubbard created a whole new cosmology for Scientology that is as fascinating as it is demented. The chapters dealing with Hubbard fleeing mainland USA in the late 60’s to spend almost a decade sailing the Meditteranean on a converted ocean liner with a private navy were absolutely fascinating! (Hubbard fled the US as the FBI was closing in on him and his operation). I just could not believe what I was reading!! The whole mega-hierarchical “Sea Org” structure and voyage was sheer lunacy and I just cannot fathom how rational,largely college educated, intelligent people could possibly want to be part of such a harebrained venture. That so many of them stayed on board and robotically obeyed orders for so many years truly defies belief and credulity. Hubbard’s personal charisma must have been off the scale, considering the fierce, unquestioning loyalty he inspired in his followers. All in all, this book is gripping from page one and it takes the reader on an incredible journey into the life and times of one of the most controversial figures of our times. Highly, highly recommended!
If I had thought this book was nothing more than an ill-informed cheap shot at Hubbard, I would not have read it, but it is not. My greatest problems with Scientology were never about the Technology, but with the over-zealousness (to put it very politely) of the Sea Org staff above all, and the absolutely unforgivable price of Services.
If you ever complained about the totally unrealistic cost of Services - relative to average earnings, for example, you were met with facile, brainwashed responses about ‘what is Freedom worth?’ and ‘No Clear thinks it’s expensive…’ all of which totally ignore the fact that the organization is 99% money driven, whether it started that way or not; and that most of The Bridge (the structured path to spiritual freedom) is way beyond the price range of the average individual - unless they become Staff members, of course…
While Hubbard is seen to be a questionable character in terms of false claims about a number of issues, including aspects of his military service, as Miller reveals, he may well have developed some important technology at the heart of the Beast that Scientology eventually became.
It does not have some of the more immediately threatening aspects of a Cult that many true Cults possess, but it is hard to see it as anything else when you add up the lists of experiences that Miller and others have recorded and analyzed.
Don’t be fooled by reviewers who hide behind ‘attacks on their religion’. If Scientology operated more like a real religion (which it could do), it would not charge so much for its Services. It’s pricing structure is simply a control weapon and nothing more.
Read the book and make up your own mind.
It gives you chills to consider that present Scientologists might believe even one-tenth of the lunacy of the L. Ron Hubbard that this book reveals as a paranoid, authoritarian, self-aggrandising, destructive, and pathalogical ( ).
Hubbard was clearly a severly disturbed individual, and his motivation for founding Scientology was also clearly a direct result of his delusions and desire for attention, and, later, for cash.
Scientology itself is revealled as a mixture of pop psychology, new age healing techniques, and belief in our heritage as space aliens - all three spiced-up by the illicit thrill that only secret knowledge (priced in US$ of course) can bring.
In other words, welcome to 20th Century free market Gnosticism, with a bit of everything tossed in, for good measure, by a deranged cook that seems to have no taste buds at all.
Even assuming (following the death of Hubbard) there has been a corporate sanitising of the whackier aspects of his philosophy (and trust me here, the book is overflowing with examples of these), the fact that anyone would choose such an obviously broken foundation stone to build anything on, is enough cause for the alarm bells to start ringing.
The book is exhaustively researched and is a completely mind-blowing read, as the reader gets to walk a path from a creative childhood in which we learn about Hubbard’s natural talent for story-telling that later developed into his relatively successful science-fiction career, to a progressively-stunted adulthood where lies becomes the main creative media he works with.
It would be good to see a follow up that deals less with Hubbard and more with how the Scientologists absorbed his legacy into their current practice (quite well, it would seem, from the myriad of media reports of destructive cultic behaviour).
Now that would take some explaining.
But this is outside the scope of this biography.
The book has a ring of authenticity thanks to the well-established credentials of the journalist who wrote it, and thus stands as a credible portrait of a destructive cartoon character that - unfortunately - more than a few people saw as their messiah.
From stem to stern, Miller bares all truth about L. Ron and his disturbing cult, combatting the lies that have been perpetuated about this psychotic megalomaniac by the willing dupes of the “Church” of $cientology. _Bare_Faced_Messiah_ does all the legwork for you, uncovers the sordid money trails, the indictments and convictions, the lies, the harassment, even the cold-blooded murders perpetuated in the name of $cientology and its godlike cult figure, the madman L. Ron Hubbard. Buy this book for anyone you think gullible enough to belive the cult’s lies.
It does not have some of the more immediately threatening aspects of a Cult that many true Cults possess………
dont most cults commit mass suicide?
Anoymous, you have yet another supporter. good luck.
Only the suicidal ones.
D’oh!
Think about it for a sec…
[quote comment="273269"]It does not have some of the more immediately threatening aspects of a Cult that many true Cults possess………
dont most cults commit mass suicide?[/quote]
For a money-making venture like $cientology (your ‘cult’) to be successful, it must:
(i)Keep it’s victims alive (at least until they’re bankrupt),
&
(ii) Not seem too “immediately threatening”.
Is my cluestick making any inroads yet, FFS?
[quote comment="273142"]Quite annoying when a group of people decide to take things into their own hands. Even though… unless you can show that they are brain washing members, I only see you as a group of idiots that don’t agree with another persons beliefs. As people have the right to spend their money any way they want. As for them removing informations from the internet. A bit extreme but any business has the right to defend them selfs in some fashion. Information will always be available in other places no matter what. So… in conclusion… Show me proof of brain washing or something in that general field and then we will work from their.[/quote]
Well, this one’s not about brainwashing, just about the dangers of the cult, and its mass preference for followers money over follower’s themselves…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU
I think Anonymous is a pretty cool guy. eh wars on Scientology and doesn’t afraid of anything.
[quote comment="273083"]Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.
Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye.
…
We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for a long, long campaign. You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the body politic. Your methods, hypocrisy, and the artlessness of your organization have sounded its death knell.
…
If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.
Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon’s actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.
…
Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of the RTC.
Knowledge is free.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
WE DO NOT FORGET.
Expect us. [/quote]
Comes from:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ
[quote comment="273168"]there’s something really ****ed up when you try to fight intolerance with intolerance.
It’s like ****ing for virginity.
Sooner or later, all this intolerant groups will fell by their own faults, there’s no need to start a Jihad.[/quote]
Uhm actually, ***ing is a great way to combat virginity.
1. We’re not a “hacking group”
2. The objective of the DDOS was to garner media attention onto Scientology. Scientology HATES media attention like the zombies from I am Legend hate sunlight. It’s just plain bad for them. The DDOS was an easy way to let them know we were serious as well.
3. There is no “inner” or “outer” circle. It’s not a “small group of friends” - it’s more like a pack of wolves.
We are gay fags and we love you.
Free Wil Smiff! And Katie too.
That is not Anonymous.
That is a faggot.
We do not give interviews. Those facts are downright inaccurate.
We are Legion.
Anonymous cannot be represented by one person.
Most of this particular Anonymous’ statements are either ignorance or disinformation.
Anonymous is not a small group of hackers. We are from eBaumsworld.
The inner and outer circle is complete bullshit. No one is more or less important than anyone else.
[quote comment="273231"]Their “ultimate goal” is completely deluded. Scientology will never admit or say such things. The only way to destroy scientology is through informing people about their nefarious ways, not silencing their propaganda online. These hackers tactics are about as smart as the MPAA/RIAA’s tactics against file sharing. Project Dumbshit needs to focus on informing the public and exposing Scientology secrets. An information campaign of sorts. Something to garner mass attention.[/quote]
The hacking is just to gain publicity. When we have it we will do exactly that.
You guys call yourself hackers? Really? Oh Sure! But If I walked down, say, Sunset Blvd in Hollywood, and happened to come across the Scientology bookstore and went in and bought their digital books, and later “leak” them on the net, I guess I could become a super hacker group too!
You see what a bunch of fucking attention starved kids with too much time on their hands can do? Absolutely nothing, but they’ll get dugg up, and that’s whats really important! You go guys!
if you like shaving cats, try shaving crayons
Maybe L. Ron Hubbard was actually a premature vessel of Anonymous. Perhaps he did it for the lulz.
This sucks. Right from the start they’re talking about IRC channels, when the “chan” in chanology has nothing to do with IRC, but instead the name of the forums where these people congregate (usually known as *chans, which is a japanese expression).
Who the fuck was interviewed? A thirteen-year-old? The answers are in no way representative of Anon.
[quote comment="273384"]Who the fuck was interviewed? A thirteen-year-old? The answers are in no way representative of Anon.[/quote]
Maybe the OP meant “A Non”?
As in “You stupid fucking NON!”
;)
P.S. I love scat! I’m a scatmuncher, you see.(?)
Who gives a shit about scientology, the other “religions” are no better, we better get rid of judaism/christianism/islamism to begin, they have killed one billion people, destroyed several civilization (including the european civilization and the current global civilization)
jesus never existed, muhammad was worst than hitler
This “army” is doomed.
They plan to hold up signs that say “We Don’t Like You” and perform the on-line equivalent of toilet-papering someone’s house against an orginization who’s rules explicitly state that it is a-ok to MURDER ANYONE WHO OPPOSES THEM. Scientology’s threat is a bit more serious than a gun that shoots pictures of goatse.cx.
lets kill these cult bastards everyone of them.
ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVES THERE IS A MAN IN THE CLOUDS LOOKING OUT FOR THEM IS A CRAZY CUNT,LOOKING TO CONFORM,TRYIN TO MAKE EVERYONE LIKE THEM.
THEY ARE ALL HOLDING BACK HUMAN EVOLUTION.
@ All the idiots trying to correct people by explaining what Anonymous is
Stop it you fucking idiots. You are the cancer that is killing us.
Keep up the good work anonymous!!
And who ever can should help them out.
Hmm, and we are supposed to dl some weird executable, plug in a few IP’s you give us, and let that executable TH our computers?
Get a life… a real one preferably.
~Fransw
[quote comment="273403"]lets kill these cult bastards everyone of them.
ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVES THERE IS A MAN IN THE CLOUDS LOOKING OUT FOR THEM IS A CRAZY CUNT,LOOKING TO CONFORM,TRYIN TO MAKE EVERYONE LIKE THEM.
THEY ARE ALL HOLDING BACK HUMAN EVOLUTION.[/quote]
+1
Kill the bastards!
Interviewee and possibly interviewer is an idiot and has no clue about anonymous or chans. Wtf.
[quote comment="273436"]Interviewee and possibly interviewer is an idiot and has no clue about anonymous or chans. Wtf.[/quote]
Hopefully the interviewee answered the questions like that on purpose because of all the attention Anon has been getting.
We are anonymous
We do not forgive
We do not forget
We are legion
Knowledge is free
SMALL GROUP? wtf :D
Can I Join?
I wanna join ur group of hackers, I can do more damage in my war :)
yes scientology is gay
get back to the news on torrents.
‘lets all do it for the lulz!11′
no, fuck off.
It’s good to get both sides of the argument. Here’s an interview with an anonymous member of the church of scientology.
http://www.harrynads.com/church_of_scientology_attacked_by_anonymous_forces
[quote comment="273098"]Scientology is a crazy religion but so what? So is Christianity and most others. [/quote]
Note: $cientology ™ is a company, not a religion. Their sole purpose it to make profit.
d00d, let’s steal their e-meter hardware and circuit bend it…
I would highly recommend you pull the Q&A session immediately and post the update in red at the TOP of the page, not after users have read it.
Tom Cruise FTW! LOL
i’m no fan of organized religion, but i’m not sure this will have the desired results. Scientologists already feel persecuted, this is just more proof for them and one more reason for the members to reject what outsiders have to say about them. this is common to many mainstream religions.
yes, knowledge is free. that’s why, when you google Scientology, the first link is to their website, the second is to wikipedia, the third is to “operation clambake-the inner secrets of scientology.”
that’s as it should be.
anon isnt going to drive them off the net any more than Co$ was able to shut down operation clambake and the usenet groups they tried to spam out of existence.
and here’s the thing: if this thing WERE to succeed, it’d be bad. because if we can do it to them, they can do it to us. why show them how? why make it easy for them?
the anti-scifag wing of anonymous is small. thats what they meant. the actual hacker group.
[quote comment="273399"]Who gives a shit about scientology, the other “religions” are no better, we better get rid of judaism/christianism/islamism to begin, they have killed one billion people, destroyed several civilization (including the european civilization and the current global civilization)
jesus never existed, muhammad was worst than hitler[/quote]
Other religions have been used as an excuse to commit various crimes, no doubt. But fact is the crusades, witch-burnings, the Inquisition, all that happened hundreds of years ago while Scientology is harassing people right now. Just watch this BBC documentary, its quite entertaining:
http://www.stage6.com/user/rab78/video/2099692/Scientology-and-Me
Look how the reporter is treated from the moment he dares to speak to CoS critics. Scientology is just a mixture of
1. authoritative, potentially hazardous hypnosis
2. nazi methods
3. infinite greed and
4. Tom Cruise saying none of the above is true
WHY IS DAT SUM MISINFORMATION THERE?
Misinformation is misinforming.
I am sorry to inform you all that Scientology has been permanently closed due to thetans. That is all.
this article is made of fail.
Dear torrentfreak,
You’re doing it wrong.
- anon
this “small” group is one of the largest groups on the internet.
The Macho Response
[quote comment="273561"][quote comment="273098"]Scientology is a crazy religion but so what? So is Christianity and most others. [/quote]
Note: $cientology ™ is a company, not a religion. Their sole purpose it to make profit.[/quote]
So is Wal-Mart. BURN THEM TO THE GROUND!!!!
Sarcasm aside, I still maintain this is a waste of time. I also find it irritating how many opinionated cocksuckers come out of the woodwork on these anonymous forums. Knock off the “We Are Legion” bullshit, it seems more like “We are spoiled children who have nothing better to do than sit around on computers and anonymously preach our opinions like assholes.”
Try going outside or getting laid for a change, but please, wear a condom. We don’t need anymore fuckheads like you running about.
this is a silly raid set up by 4chan and unfortunately it will do nothing but draw more attention to scientology and their money making schemes. pirates should stay well out of religion.
read img.4chan.org/b/ for about 5 minutes and you’ll see plenty of info all about the raid.
in b4 rules 1 and 2. i don’t fucking care, it’s a shit website anyway.
There is no inner sphere or outer sphere. There is only Anonymous. We are legion and resistance only makes us harder.
Expect us.
[quote comment="273578"]d00d, let’s steal their e-meter hardware and circuit bend it…[/quote]
That’s the most awesome thing I’ve read today.
You forgot Rule 1 and 2.
We are anonymous, we are legion.
We have no religion, no race, no creed.
We exist because we can. We need no excuse.
It’s actually
United as one divided by zero.
stop with all the “we are legion” bullshit as if you are serious and dark, you’re all just wasters who spend your time posting shit on a website like everyone else, you are not legion, you most likely would forgive and you probably forget an awful lot of stuff.
this is not world of warcraft now kiddies.
you have just entered the very heart, soul, and life force of the internet. this is a place beyond sanity, wild and untamed. there is nothing new here. “new” content on 4chan is not found; it is created from old material. every interesting, offensive, shocking, or debate inspiring topic you’ve seen elsewhere has been posted here ad infinitum. we are the reason for “not safe for work”. we are the anonymous army. cross us and you will fail. anonymous is everywhere. you depend on us every day. we bag your groceries, we fix your computers. anonymous sees you before you see him. sitting at desks around the world right now is a nameless, faceless, unforgiving mafia composed of the best of the best.
We are 4channers. the people devoid of any type of soul or conscience. products of cynicism and apathy, spreading those very sentiments daily. anonymous is the hardened war veteran of the internet. he does not forgive or forget. we have seen things that defy explanations. heard stories that would make any god-fearing, law abiding citizen empty their stomach where they stand. we have experienced them multiple times and eagerly await their return.
4chan is a place of sheer genius and utter stupidity, and there is often a thin line dividing the two. here you will see a state of mind that exists in most human beings, but is rarely if ever shown. this is a place where taboos do not exist. 4chan cannot simply be regarded as a simple website or imageboard. it is so much more than code. 4chan is alive and constantly changing. this is a subculture, a self-governing sect of the world. rich in history and foundation. to become a 4chan user is to speak a different language. to leave behind any methods of conventional thinking you once knew.
There are things here that you will not understand and things you never will understand. if you cannot accept this then GTFO now. because there is no turning back.
This is 4chan, this is /b/ ”
…..
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Pretend there is a bar or gauge if you will. The pressure that this measures goes up every time you see scat porn or a snuff film. Every time you are rick rolled or see the internet uncover yet another corporate/government scandal. After you go through another flame war or download another movie. After every won CS game and WC3 tourny. After every photoshopped pic of an elephant ass raping a child whose blood flies through the air to land on an animated gif in just the right way to make you laugh in that way that makes 90% of the god fearing people of this world cringe or scream in disgust. I AM the internet. We are the internet. We are the 10-30 year olds who were raised on this stuff. The bnet kiddies who are growing up to be your best and brightest. We are desensitized. Nothing is sacred. Nothing holds meaning. Chuck Palaniuk never could have guessed what would happen if we didnt break free from corporate America.
Fox news, there is a future scarier than Fight Club. Your country club loving, yacht owning, fag hating patrons just can’t imagine what they are facing…. you can’t imagine the power we possess. We own the networks. We own the world. We are cruel not because we hate but because we don’t care and the power that gives us is infinite….
People tend to forget that once something gets onto the internet it has this tendancy to stay there forever. Saying they are going to ban scientology from the internet, is not only impossible but sort of scary.
I think Scientology makes real, honest religions look bad and it is definately a threat. I also think it is impossible to ban something from the internet. While the group sort of has my support in its ideals its lack of true organization is sort of discouraging.
I haven’t seen the word “BRAIN-WASHING” enough on this page!
I live in the Clearwater, Florida, area where these freaks have their World Headquarters. After working with these yahoos in L.A. in the entertainment industy, I came home to Florida and have watched first hand how they have literaly taken over the town and it’s government. The media is afraid to say much, because everytime they do they get their asses sued off. The city government and the city cops are bought and paid for, and local businesses have to watch what they say or they risk having their business license “inspected” for possible revocation. Their little sailor boys and girls, looking and acting like the Nazi versions of Gopher and Julie from “The Love Boat,” walk around town like they own the place (guess they kind of do) and intimidate the hell out of the locals and tourists. After seeing some of the treatment they have given “former” members and following the stories of their acts of vengence against those who speak out against them, I really wonder why the U.S. Government STILL classifies them as a religion and allows them tax-exempt status? Even the Sighintologists themselves don’t call their oganization a “religion.” What the fuck? So, cliff ‘em all as far as I’m concerned. Let ‘em move on to their next incarnation, after life, flying spaghetti monster tanning booth, or whatever. Fuck ‘em all.
anonymous a bunch of snot nosed brats.
In the spirit of 4chan, how about we all just calm down and post some photoshopped nazi porn on a 12 year olds myspace?
lame…
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.
Anonymous are a bunch of basement virgins using the internet to “be somebody”.
Count me out of this bullshit.
Can’t believe this article made it here tbh, torrentfreak has always been a bit shit and uninformed, but this just tops it off.