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		<title>By: BitTorrent Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job - Zwartbaard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-495833</link>
		<dc:creator>BitTorrent Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job - Zwartbaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in November 2007 we reported on the plight of An Duc Do, an ex-uploader at the now-defunct EliteTorrents BitTorrent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-495824</link>
		<dc:creator>BitTorrent Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in November 2007 we reported on the plight of An Duc Do, an ex-uploader at the now-defunct EliteTorrents BitTorrent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EliteTorrents Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-495560</link>
		<dc:creator>EliteTorrents Uploader Escapes Jail, Loses Job &#124; TorrentFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in November 2007 we reported on the plight of An Duc Do, an ex-uploader at the now-defunct EliteTorrents BitTorrent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent Tracker Admin Jailed for 18 Months&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-493924</link>
		<dc:creator>BitTorrent Tracker Admin Jailed for 18 Months&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uploaders who pleaded guilty include Sam Kuonen, then aged 24, 22 year old Scott D. Harvanek and An Duc Do, aged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-447834</link>
		<dc:creator>How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who pleaded guilty included Sam Kuonen, then aged 24, 22 year old Scott D. Harvanek and An Duc Do, aged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community &#124; Horror, Weirdness and Random Rantings</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-437768</link>
		<dc:creator>How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community &#124; Horror, Weirdness and Random Rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who pleaded guilty included Sam Kuonen, then aged 24, 22 year old Scott D. Harvanek and An Duc Do, aged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community &#124; Pirate Releases</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-436695</link>
		<dc:creator>How The FBI Dismantled a BitTorrent Community &#124; Pirate Releases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who pleaded guilty included Sam Kuonen, then aged 24, 22 year old Scott D. Harvanek and An Duc Do, aged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duh</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-435606</link>
		<dc:creator>Duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares enough about that crap movie anyhow. Well.. besides MPAA and FBI - I.T. Staff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares enough about that crap movie anyhow. Well.. besides MPAA and FBI &#8211; I.T. Staff?</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-287334</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Also, the fact I did collect this information was made perfectly clear in the legalese provided with the product.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Did you ever consider that *that&#039;s* the reason why people aren&#039;t buying your product?</description>
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Also, the fact I did collect this information was made perfectly clear in the legalese provided with the product.</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you ever consider that *that&#8217;s* the reason why people aren&#8217;t buying your product?</p>
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		<title>By: reurigoobby</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-242091</link>
		<dc:creator>reurigoobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</p>
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		<title>By: reurigoobby</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-234300</link>
		<dc:creator>reurigoobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Torrent God &#187; Blog Archive &#187; US Anti-Piracy Bill Increases Penalties for Copyright Infringement</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-233537</link>
		<dc:creator>Torrent God &#187; Blog Archive &#187; US Anti-Piracy Bill Increases Penalties for Copyright Infringement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Ernesto on December 06, 2007 According to a group of lawmakers, 10 years in prison and a $500,000 fine is not a severe enough sentence for copyright infringement in the US. So, a new bill is proposed to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Ernesto on December 06, 2007 According to a group of lawmakers, 10 years in prison and a $500,000 fine is not a severe enough sentence for copyright infringement in the US. So, a new bill is proposed to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zominion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Politics of Business</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-233059</link>
		<dc:creator>Zominion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Politics of Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] break this down section by section.Â  Currently individuals are facing sentences of 10 years in prison for sharing movies online.Â  In Titles I and II the congressmen state that they feel this is not a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] break this down section by section.Â  Currently individuals are facing sentences of 10 years in prison for sharing movies online.Â  In Titles I and II the congressmen state that they feel this is not a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No to illegals</title>
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		<dc:creator>No to illegals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ICE and the FBI should concentrate on more important things. You know, like busting and deporting illegals back to that shithole Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICE and the FBI should concentrate on more important things. You know, like busting and deporting illegals back to that shithole Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-226532</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And What can we do?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-222238</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel all of ya&#039;lls pain wishing for a goverment overhauls, sentencing in proportion to the crimes and even the glorious idea of isolationism but in order do so you all so will have to deal with the hard truth that if any of these ideas are inacted you should be prepared and willing to sacrifice all these wants and focus on need, the cost to stop a heartles goverment is huge and politicians will not go quietly in to the night. The goverment overhaul idea will become of the strain on the economy and citizen will riot while politicians will dine and defend their comforts the system will then colapse apon its self and the risk will run high of local drug lords, mafia, Klan, and gangs will siezing territory as warlords with an absent system of goverment. So the problem is how to remove a rotten goverment with out total poverty and loss of control any where in the process of doing so which is for us( all of the  displease) to unite learn a profitable craft, go to college learn law, economic standards studies, or start a business,  funds are essential contribute to the cause and work our way up the middle into the center of gov. and grow and spread like a till there is now room left for old money. But that is hard and honestly not enough people work together any more so lets just say a prayer for Duc Do and his colleges and pray for ourselfs because being in the world we are in today we are in a shit storm that no one may survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel all of ya&#8217;lls pain wishing for a goverment overhauls, sentencing in proportion to the crimes and even the glorious idea of isolationism but in order do so you all so will have to deal with the hard truth that if any of these ideas are inacted you should be prepared and willing to sacrifice all these wants and focus on need, the cost to stop a heartles goverment is huge and politicians will not go quietly in to the night. The goverment overhaul idea will become of the strain on the economy and citizen will riot while politicians will dine and defend their comforts the system will then colapse apon its self and the risk will run high of local drug lords, mafia, Klan, and gangs will siezing territory as warlords with an absent system of goverment. So the problem is how to remove a rotten goverment with out total poverty and loss of control any where in the process of doing so which is for us( all of the  displease) to unite learn a profitable craft, go to college learn law, economic standards studies, or start a business,  funds are essential contribute to the cause and work our way up the middle into the center of gov. and grow and spread like a till there is now room left for old money. But that is hard and honestly not enough people work together any more so lets just say a prayer for Duc Do and his colleges and pray for ourselfs because being in the world we are in today we are in a shit storm that no one may survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-222101</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bittrucker
Just because the law is there, it doesn&#039;t mean that it is just. Just because in the past, helping an escaping slave has a harsh penalty, doesn&#039;t mean that one shouldn&#039;t do it. You are the one at fault for thinking that you could &quot;own&quot; that piece of software. What makes me more disgusted is how people make these things FOR PROFIT rather than for the interest of the public, and claim that they &quot;own&quot; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bittrucker<br />
Just because the law is there, it doesn&#8217;t mean that it is just. Just because in the past, helping an escaping slave has a harsh penalty, doesn&#8217;t mean that one shouldn&#8217;t do it. You are the one at fault for thinking that you could &#8220;own&#8221; that piece of software. What makes me more disgusted is how people make these things FOR PROFIT rather than for the interest of the public, and claim that they &#8220;own&#8221; it.</p>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-221964</link>
		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[U]p to 10 years in prison coupled with a fine of $500,000.&quot;

That&#039;s awfully disproportionate and could totally ruin his life. Sick justice. Fortunately I don&#039;t live in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[U]p to 10 years in prison coupled with a fine of $500,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s awfully disproportionate and could totally ruin his life. Sick justice. Fortunately I don&#8217;t live in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: dwmsyron</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-220721</link>
		<dc:creator>dwmsyron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eurofascists, I agree, but again, the MAFIAA simply doesn&#039;t care if you buy it or not. They do not assume good faith. They will ruin your life if they catch you transferring it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eurofascists, I agree, but again, the MAFIAA simply doesn&#8217;t care if you buy it or not. They do not assume good faith. They will ruin your life if they catch you transferring it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-220639</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#237, Muaitai:

&quot;Me for instance, if I download a cd and I like it I will buy it, I have a rack in front of me with more than 400 cds, but if I download it and don&#039;t like it I erase it from my HD, pure and simple, does that make me a thief?&quot;

I don&#039;t why it would be piracy, since payment is either being made, or the &quot;product&quot;/cyberbits is deleted.  Wouldn&#039;t piracy occur if a person benefits from the product without making the payment?

Further, it would seem that if these were the facts for those defendants then the FBI would waste its time trying to prosecute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#237, Muaitai:</p>
<p>&#8220;Me for instance, if I download a cd and I like it I will buy it, I have a rack in front of me with more than 400 cds, but if I download it and don&#8217;t like it I erase it from my HD, pure and simple, does that make me a thief?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t why it would be piracy, since payment is either being made, or the &#8220;product&#8221;/cyberbits is deleted.  Wouldn&#8217;t piracy occur if a person benefits from the product without making the payment?</p>
<p>Further, it would seem that if these were the facts for those defendants then the FBI would waste its time trying to prosecute?</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a lack of understanding of market forces in many of these posts.  I would argue that, in the end, market forces trump government regulations and lobbyists.  Some random examples:

1. Microsoft&#039;s hardware-based software model is being trumped by a growing shift to on-line based software model, ala Google on-line applications, for example.  All of Microsoft&#039;s lobbyists cannot overcome market forces, if consumers are shifting to the on-line model.

2. The music industry&#039;s desire to sell music in physical form, e.g., CDs, is being transformed by the iTunes model of Internet-sourced music.  Market forces (i.e., consumers, are causing this change).

3. The general software industry&#039;s desire to sell software in physical form, i.e., boxed software, is being transformed by the growing model of Internet-sourced software distribution.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.

4. The software industry&#039;s desire to &quot;sell&quot; software for $$ is being transformed by the Google model of &quot;free&quot; software, such as Google Docs, Google Calendar, Gmail (5 MB of free storage too), Google Notebook, StarOffice, etc., using ads as compensation.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.

5. There is also a growing shift to open-code &quot;software&quot;, such as Firefox, which is competing directly with Microsoft&#039;s Internet Explorer.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.

Pirates and piracy of intellectual property fosters a culture of cheating and stealing.  More and more schoolchildren see little morally wrong with cheating on tests and plagiarism.  Some adults cheat on their government tax forms.  Some businesses cheat through bribes.  The notion that &quot;everybody&#039;s doing it&quot; creates a pirate and piracy mentality.

As I read these posts, the mental gymnastics that people go through to rationalize and justify piracy is, simply, astounding.

Have at least some level of self-discipline.  Don&#039;t be a hypocrite by railing against &quot;Corporate America, Inc.&quot;, and then pirate its products because you love them (which are BTW, often the best).

If the tactics used by these industries are viewed by consumers as heavy-handed or unfair, ultimately, market forces (i.e., consumers) win out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a lack of understanding of market forces in many of these posts.  I would argue that, in the end, market forces trump government regulations and lobbyists.  Some random examples:</p>
<p>1. Microsoft&#8217;s hardware-based software model is being trumped by a growing shift to on-line based software model, ala Google on-line applications, for example.  All of Microsoft&#8217;s lobbyists cannot overcome market forces, if consumers are shifting to the on-line model.</p>
<p>2. The music industry&#8217;s desire to sell music in physical form, e.g., CDs, is being transformed by the iTunes model of Internet-sourced music.  Market forces (i.e., consumers, are causing this change).</p>
<p>3. The general software industry&#8217;s desire to sell software in physical form, i.e., boxed software, is being transformed by the growing model of Internet-sourced software distribution.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.</p>
<p>4. The software industry&#8217;s desire to &#8220;sell&#8221; software for $$ is being transformed by the Google model of &#8220;free&#8221; software, such as Google Docs, Google Calendar, Gmail (5 MB of free storage too), Google Notebook, StarOffice, etc., using ads as compensation.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.</p>
<p>5. There is also a growing shift to open-code &#8220;software&#8221;, such as Firefox, which is competing directly with Microsoft&#8217;s Internet Explorer.  Market forces (i.e., consumers) are causing this change.</p>
<p>Pirates and piracy of intellectual property fosters a culture of cheating and stealing.  More and more schoolchildren see little morally wrong with cheating on tests and plagiarism.  Some adults cheat on their government tax forms.  Some businesses cheat through bribes.  The notion that &#8220;everybody&#8217;s doing it&#8221; creates a pirate and piracy mentality.</p>
<p>As I read these posts, the mental gymnastics that people go through to rationalize and justify piracy is, simply, astounding.</p>
<p>Have at least some level of self-discipline.  Don&#8217;t be a hypocrite by railing against &#8220;Corporate America, Inc.&#8221;, and then pirate its products because you love them (which are BTW, often the best).</p>
<p>If the tactics used by these industries are viewed by consumers as heavy-handed or unfair, ultimately, market forces (i.e., consumers) win out.</p>
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		<title>By: Muaitai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muaitai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;228 Nov 21, 2007 at 04:24 by EurofascistsQuote Eurofascists &quot;
The world does not resume to Europe, and also I was not mentioning only our time, look throughout history, when I said other civilizations I meant the great civilizations of the past such as Romans, Barbarians, Greeks, Egyptians, Mayas, Aztecs, and so on, on their own time they were what USA is today, conquering, more advanced but everything come and goes in this universe.
I don&#039;t want to ague here but the whole issue is if is fair or not to punish people because they are sharing.
3,000 plus people died in Bangladesh; do we see any of this people doing anything to have the artists helping them? NO
There are more important things in this world that suing people sharing files over the internet.
One of this days they will implement software that will control all our moves in our own home, just navigate on the internet and they will be watching you.
Again, I say it again, how can they say that they are losing money if they cannot prove that whoever downloaded the software or music or video would buy it in the first place?
You only lose something that you had; you cannot lose something on the assumption that somebody would have bought that if had not downloaded.
Me for instance, if I download a cd and I like it I will buy it, I have a rack in front of me with more than 400 cds, but if I download it and don&#039;t like it I erase it from my HD, pure and simple, does that make me a thief?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;228 Nov 21, 2007 at 04:24 by EurofascistsQuote Eurofascists &#8221;<br />
The world does not resume to Europe, and also I was not mentioning only our time, look throughout history, when I said other civilizations I meant the great civilizations of the past such as Romans, Barbarians, Greeks, Egyptians, Mayas, Aztecs, and so on, on their own time they were what USA is today, conquering, more advanced but everything come and goes in this universe.<br />
I don&#8217;t want to ague here but the whole issue is if is fair or not to punish people because they are sharing.<br />
3,000 plus people died in Bangladesh; do we see any of this people doing anything to have the artists helping them? NO<br />
There are more important things in this world that suing people sharing files over the internet.<br />
One of this days they will implement software that will control all our moves in our own home, just navigate on the internet and they will be watching you.<br />
Again, I say it again, how can they say that they are losing money if they cannot prove that whoever downloaded the software or music or video would buy it in the first place?<br />
You only lose something that you had; you cannot lose something on the assumption that somebody would have bought that if had not downloaded.<br />
Me for instance, if I download a cd and I like it I will buy it, I have a rack in front of me with more than 400 cds, but if I download it and don&#8217;t like it I erase it from my HD, pure and simple, does that make me a thief?</p>
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		<title>By: Switeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Switeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do note that as &quot;severe&quot; as it is in the USA, the copyright laws...and punishments...in places such as England, France, Germany, Japan, and no doubt others are also severe, at least on paper.

It does no good to go running from place to place looking for somewhere &quot;safe&quot; to hide. It shall soon be raining everywhere because corporations that buy these laws operate nearly everywhere.

Complain...LOUDLY and OFTEN (in a manner best able to be appreciated) to as many audiences you can find.

Otherwise, ignore your freedoms and they WILL go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do note that as &#8220;severe&#8221; as it is in the USA, the copyright laws&#8230;and punishments&#8230;in places such as England, France, Germany, Japan, and no doubt others are also severe, at least on paper.</p>
<p>It does no good to go running from place to place looking for somewhere &#8220;safe&#8221; to hide. It shall soon be raining everywhere because corporations that buy these laws operate nearly everywhere.</p>
<p>Complain&#8230;LOUDLY and OFTEN (in a manner best able to be appreciated) to as many audiences you can find.</p>
<p>Otherwise, ignore your freedoms and they WILL go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhapsody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhapsody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True that!  We should be more united!

I&#039;ve noticed that both the pro-Americans use the word &quot;fascist&quot; as a slur AND the con-Americans use the word &quot;fascist&quot; as a slur; common ground!

  Personally, I agree!  I am _greatly_ against the abuse of power; I have no problem with deserving people/companies/countries attaining high levels of power, and money, and influence(affluence?);
  but when those &quot;tools&quot; of money and power etc are gained illegimately (for bad, in order to unfairly oppress others, etc) then I think the culprits should be chastened [I&#039;d use the word punished, but it is too harsh - enough with the nukes!:)];
  and when those &quot;tools&quot; of money and power etc are _used_ illegimately (again, to unfairly oppress others, etc) then I think the culprits should be chastened.

  And that looks like something that we all have in common: we are against the abuse of power, especially when it unfairly oppresses us/others.

  So far, most of this &quot;oppression&quot; speech has pertained to claiming that one COUNTRY or another is &quot;fascist&quot; and unfairly oppressive [I guess there&#039;s gotta be _some_ legal system :)],
  but this is a p2p board, and when you think about it, the current travesties are being committed by COMPANIES;

  Peace out, and &quot;Keep your stick on the ice; we&#039;re all in this together.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that!  We should be more united!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that both the pro-Americans use the word &#8220;fascist&#8221; as a slur AND the con-Americans use the word &#8220;fascist&#8221; as a slur; common ground!</p>
<p>  Personally, I agree!  I am _greatly_ against the abuse of power; I have no problem with deserving people/companies/countries attaining high levels of power, and money, and influence(affluence?);<br />
  but when those &#8220;tools&#8221; of money and power etc are gained illegimately (for bad, in order to unfairly oppress others, etc) then I think the culprits should be chastened [I'd use the word punished, but it is too harsh - enough with the nukes!:)];<br />
  and when those &#8220;tools&#8221; of money and power etc are _used_ illegimately (again, to unfairly oppress others, etc) then I think the culprits should be chastened.</p>
<p>  And that looks like something that we all have in common: we are against the abuse of power, especially when it unfairly oppresses us/others.</p>
<p>  So far, most of this &#8220;oppression&#8221; speech has pertained to claiming that one COUNTRY or another is &#8220;fascist&#8221; and unfairly oppressive [I guess there's gotta be _some_ legal system :)],<br />
  but this is a p2p board, and when you think about it, the current travesties are being committed by COMPANIES;</p>
<p>  Peace out, and &#8220;Keep your stick on the ice; we&#8217;re all in this together.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 195, Spurge:
Good point, good point. I agree, we should not be bickering amoung ourselves about national-worth, when the board is supposed to be about p2p.

  But, the bickering is fun!

  Eurofascist, your most recent couple of posts [violent European history, Guantanamo rights + abuses BY prisoners, etc] are really really good!  I&#039;m impressed, very pertinent, they are very pertinent and intelligent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 195, Spurge:<br />
Good point, good point. I agree, we should not be bickering amoung ourselves about national-worth, when the board is supposed to be about p2p.</p>
<p>  But, the bickering is fun!</p>
<p>  Eurofascist, your most recent couple of posts [violent European history, Guantanamo rights + abuses BY prisoners, etc] are really really good!  I&#8217;m impressed, very pertinent, they are very pertinent and intelligent!</p>
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		<title>By: 802.11.9n</title>
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		<dc:creator>802.11.9n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, yes, lets force everyone to go by a biometric id in order to exist in present society (or in anything); here&#039;s why not:

Any ID with irrevocable authority must be absolutely, positively, unique.  It must be absolutely, positively impossible to spoof that ID.  And that is impossible.

  To varying degrees of simplicity, any object, produced by technology, can be replicated by an illicit version of that technology [see fake drivers IDs, fake email addresses, fake money, etc].

  The only chance of something not being copyable is not to make it to hard to copy, but too expensive to copy; the only downside of that?  The more rare the copies are, the more they are worth; and the more difficult it is to copy something, the more the copying technology is worth :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, yes, lets force everyone to go by a biometric id in order to exist in present society (or in anything); here&#8217;s why not:</p>
<p>Any ID with irrevocable authority must be absolutely, positively, unique.  It must be absolutely, positively impossible to spoof that ID.  And that is impossible.</p>
<p>  To varying degrees of simplicity, any object, produced by technology, can be replicated by an illicit version of that technology [see fake drivers IDs, fake email addresses, fake money, etc].</p>
<p>  The only chance of something not being copyable is not to make it to hard to copy, but too expensive to copy; the only downside of that?  The more rare the copies are, the more they are worth; and the more difficult it is to copy something, the more the copying technology is worth :P</p>
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		<title>By: landen99</title>
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		<dc:creator>landen99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their problem is that the laws do not protect consumer rights.  Fee-based distribution does not (and cannot) work in the digital age; the more appropriate method is to charge per person using bio-ID to stop identity (and thus licensing) theft.  The crime is not their copying, but the immoral MPAA licensing, restricting, and worst of all, contracting of both anti-capitalistic exclusive rights and local and regional telecommunication monopolies.  This immorality of inequality is the reason for the internet piracy problem.  Allow just, law-abiding systems to abide a just law, and they will respect her.  Deny them justice or equality and good people will fight you.

The system needs an overhaul:   Charges per individual without discrimination (not per use), licensing without temporal or feature restriction, and all transactions and contracts being per individual and open to public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their problem is that the laws do not protect consumer rights.  Fee-based distribution does not (and cannot) work in the digital age; the more appropriate method is to charge per person using bio-ID to stop identity (and thus licensing) theft.  The crime is not their copying, but the immoral MPAA licensing, restricting, and worst of all, contracting of both anti-capitalistic exclusive rights and local and regional telecommunication monopolies.  This immorality of inequality is the reason for the internet piracy problem.  Allow just, law-abiding systems to abide a just law, and they will respect her.  Deny them justice or equality and good people will fight you.</p>
<p>The system needs an overhaul:   Charges per individual without discrimination (not per use), licensing without temporal or feature restriction, and all transactions and contracts being per individual and open to public.</p>
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		<title>By: dwmsyron</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwmsyron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh not again...

Don&#039;t let the victims get lost in all the politics. They&#039;re just normal people and probably scared to death. They can use all the support they can get, even if it&#039;s not financial. If you&#039;re reading this, then hang in there. Others have gotten through this, and so can you.

I&#039;m also 25 and from Orlando. Do they really think this is going to make me buy movies? This stuff makes me so sick that I don&#039;t even *watch* them anymore.

If you care about yourselves and your friends, you&#039;ll stop supporting these monsters. Let&#039;s face it. The MAFIAA doesn&#039;t care how much you&#039;ve already bought. They&#039;ll still ruin your life, and they&#039;ll use every penny you ever gave them to do it.

They&#039;ll either do this directly, like what is happening here, or they&#039;ll do it indirectly by lobbying governments to take away our rights. Rights like watching television (Broadcast Flag and pcHDTV tuners) or watching movies we paid for (DMCA and Open Source/Linux DVD players). The list goes on.

I think there could be a compromise somewhere between the current extremes, but I have completely lost faith in our government&#039;s ability to find it. Not when all our copyright laws are written by &quot;representatives&quot; who earn $100,000+/year in campaign financing from the MAFIAA (opensecrets.org). We simply do not matter to them. It seems foolish to pay them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh not again&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the victims get lost in all the politics. They&#8217;re just normal people and probably scared to death. They can use all the support they can get, even if it&#8217;s not financial. If you&#8217;re reading this, then hang in there. Others have gotten through this, and so can you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also 25 and from Orlando. Do they really think this is going to make me buy movies? This stuff makes me so sick that I don&#8217;t even *watch* them anymore.</p>
<p>If you care about yourselves and your friends, you&#8217;ll stop supporting these monsters. Let&#8217;s face it. The MAFIAA doesn&#8217;t care how much you&#8217;ve already bought. They&#8217;ll still ruin your life, and they&#8217;ll use every penny you ever gave them to do it.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll either do this directly, like what is happening here, or they&#8217;ll do it indirectly by lobbying governments to take away our rights. Rights like watching television (Broadcast Flag and pcHDTV tuners) or watching movies we paid for (DMCA and Open Source/Linux DVD players). The list goes on.</p>
<p>I think there could be a compromise somewhere between the current extremes, but I have completely lost faith in our government&#8217;s ability to find it. Not when all our copyright laws are written by &#8220;representatives&#8221; who earn $100,000+/year in campaign financing from the MAFIAA (opensecrets.org). We simply do not matter to them. It seems foolish to pay them.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#171   RE:#

You made reference to the Casualties of Russia but that is not what I was referring to when I said &quot;You can spout off stats and percentages all day long does that make it true? Nope. Show some credible evidence when you make absolutely ridiculous statements that you try to pass off as truth!&quot;

I was referring to this comment
&quot;You see your country as the saviours of the evil world, yet you&#039;re the single greatest threat to world peace (just ask the million dead Iraqis, 32% killed by Americans and the rest killed in the civil war you started).&quot;

That is both ignorant and stupid!
 http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Not only are our soldier NOT responsible for killing 32% of a million people (320,000) there hasn&#039;t even been 100,000 thousand people killed, and thats including our soldiers!

I said &quot;    As for the soviet union, they were fighting to protect there own country. They didn&#039;t invade France to save the French people! We did!

You said &quot;Remember Pearl Harbor?&quot;


What does that have to do with the invasion of Normandy? I don&#039;t remember any Japanese being there. 


Eurofascists
 I&#039;m glad to see you on here sticking up for us(a). You have done a pretty good job, but it&#039;s like talking to the wall. They are going to believe what they want to believe. These are things that shouldn&#039;t have to be explained or argued about. We are supposed to be on the same side. Its no wonder that great Britain wouldn&#039;t join the European Union. 
 
 I am not saying that I agree with everything that our government does or that we are a perfect nation. But,we are by no means imperialists, or fascists, and we do far more good then we do harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#171   RE:#</p>
<p>You made reference to the Casualties of Russia but that is not what I was referring to when I said &#8220;You can spout off stats and percentages all day long does that make it true? Nope. Show some credible evidence when you make absolutely ridiculous statements that you try to pass off as truth!&#8221;</p>
<p>I was referring to this comment<br />
&#8220;You see your country as the saviours of the evil world, yet you&#8217;re the single greatest threat to world peace (just ask the million dead Iraqis, 32% killed by Americans and the rest killed in the civil war you started).&#8221;</p>
<p>That is both ignorant and stupid!<br />
 <a href="http://www.iraqbodycount.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iraqbodycount.org/</a><br />
Not only are our soldier NOT responsible for killing 32% of a million people (320,000) there hasn&#8217;t even been 100,000 thousand people killed, and thats including our soldiers!</p>
<p>I said &#8221;    As for the soviet union, they were fighting to protect there own country. They didn&#8217;t invade France to save the French people! We did!</p>
<p>You said &#8220;Remember Pearl Harbor?&#8221;</p>
<p>What does that have to do with the invasion of Normandy? I don&#8217;t remember any Japanese being there. </p>
<p>Eurofascists<br />
 I&#8217;m glad to see you on here sticking up for us(a). You have done a pretty good job, but it&#8217;s like talking to the wall. They are going to believe what they want to believe. These are things that shouldn&#8217;t have to be explained or argued about. We are supposed to be on the same side. Its no wonder that great Britain wouldn&#8217;t join the European Union. </p>
<p> I am not saying that I agree with everything that our government does or that we are a perfect nation. But,we are by no means imperialists, or fascists, and we do far more good then we do harm.</p>
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		<title>By: oops</title>
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		<dc:creator>oops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you could say he is in big do-do now. LOL</description>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#226, Muaitai:

&quot;many other civilizations were like we are now and where are they now&quot;

Wrong.  There has never been a more benevolent world superpower as the United States of America.  No one should doubt that Putin&#039;s Russia or Red China, IF THEY WERE THE SOLE, WORLD SUPERPOWER and possessing our nuclear weaponry, would use it to enslave Europe in a heart beat, and do so with ease and blinding speed, by simply using just a very few nuclear warheads of the 1,000s to cause every other country in the world to fold - look what 2 primitive atomic bombs did to Japan to end WWII.

Instead, like fools, we&#039;ve used our nuclear power to shield an ungrateful Europe from a USSR which grabbed Berlin in a flash.  We&#039;ve used our lives, limbs and treasure to defend an ungrateful Europe from its creatures like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.

Why did we defend such an inconsiderate people, who spew such hatred for a nation that saved them from a Nazi existence or protected them from the privileged life of a Soviet peasant?  Why do we still care about these ungrateful people and offer a missile defense system to protect them from Putin&#039;s resurgent Russia?

Makes no sense at all.  We should have left Europeans to quiver to their Nazi masters or crawl to their Soviet overlords or bow to Russia&#039;s KGB chieftains.  

If there is any justice in the world owed to Europeans, that should have been their destiny.  America has been foolish to interfere with their destiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#226, Muaitai:</p>
<p>&#8220;many other civilizations were like we are now and where are they now&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.  There has never been a more benevolent world superpower as the United States of America.  No one should doubt that Putin&#8217;s Russia or Red China, IF THEY WERE THE SOLE, WORLD SUPERPOWER and possessing our nuclear weaponry, would use it to enslave Europe in a heart beat, and do so with ease and blinding speed, by simply using just a very few nuclear warheads of the 1,000s to cause every other country in the world to fold &#8211; look what 2 primitive atomic bombs did to Japan to end WWII.</p>
<p>Instead, like fools, we&#8217;ve used our nuclear power to shield an ungrateful Europe from a USSR which grabbed Berlin in a flash.  We&#8217;ve used our lives, limbs and treasure to defend an ungrateful Europe from its creatures like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.</p>
<p>Why did we defend such an inconsiderate people, who spew such hatred for a nation that saved them from a Nazi existence or protected them from the privileged life of a Soviet peasant?  Why do we still care about these ungrateful people and offer a missile defense system to protect them from Putin&#8217;s resurgent Russia?</p>
<p>Makes no sense at all.  We should have left Europeans to quiver to their Nazi masters or crawl to their Soviet overlords or bow to Russia&#8217;s KGB chieftains.  </p>
<p>If there is any justice in the world owed to Europeans, that should have been their destiny.  America has been foolish to interfere with their destiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Muaitai</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219506</link>
		<dc:creator>Muaitai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 225 Nov 21, 2007 at 00:11 by EurofascistsQuote Eurofascists.
And what are you, an American proud of what your country is?
just so you know Mr. I know everything, try to read more and educate yourself, most of the software&#039;s today are made by foreigners, America has very few intellectual people so we need to outsource it from abroad.
People have the right to hate a country that thinks is the best in the world and wants everybody else to agree.
Look at history, many other civilizations were like we are now and where are they now???
USA is a great country and I am proud to be an American, the land is beautiful and the origins of this country were great, but unfortunately it is governed by the greed of many people that are not even Americans and also a bunch of politicians and their agendas.
Again, intellectual property has nothing to do with sharing for free, it has to do with plagiarism, with people stealing your idea and selling as theirs.
This people are so arrogant that they say &quot;We lost millions of dollars with piracy&quot; well who can guarantee you that the people that downloaded for free would ever buy the software? Would ever buy the movie or the cd? You can only say &quot;We lost&quot; if you can prove that this people would pay for that, otherwise your arguments are nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 225 Nov 21, 2007 at 00:11 by EurofascistsQuote Eurofascists.<br />
And what are you, an American proud of what your country is?<br />
just so you know Mr. I know everything, try to read more and educate yourself, most of the software&#8217;s today are made by foreigners, America has very few intellectual people so we need to outsource it from abroad.<br />
People have the right to hate a country that thinks is the best in the world and wants everybody else to agree.<br />
Look at history, many other civilizations were like we are now and where are they now???<br />
USA is a great country and I am proud to be an American, the land is beautiful and the origins of this country were great, but unfortunately it is governed by the greed of many people that are not even Americans and also a bunch of politicians and their agendas.<br />
Again, intellectual property has nothing to do with sharing for free, it has to do with plagiarism, with people stealing your idea and selling as theirs.<br />
This people are so arrogant that they say &#8220;We lost millions of dollars with piracy&#8221; well who can guarantee you that the people that downloaded for free would ever buy the software? Would ever buy the movie or the cd? You can only say &#8220;We lost&#8221; if you can prove that this people would pay for that, otherwise your arguments are nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219433</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#223, Reasoned?

1. The only chance that this guy will serve 10 years of a sentence is if he uses wikipedia for legal advice!  

In the American criminal justice system, most criminals do not complete their sentence and are released early for good behavior, etc.  Parole boards exist for the purpose of determining/granting parole.

2. Judges (sometimes juries) set sentencing, regardless what the statute reads, particularly if they are libs.

This is why America needs a truth-in-sentencing law because there is no truth in these prison sentences.

HE WILL NOT SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!

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The reason why America cares about pirates and piracy is that America is one of the biggest sources of intellectual property in the world  It&#039;s not like China, Saudi Arabia, France, Britain, Germany, Denmark and Luxembourg have a lot to lose.

Most of the computers in the world are powered by a CPU designed and built by an American company, using an OS developed by an American company, posting anti-American comments on an Internet/WWW created by Americans, and pirating movies created by Hollyweird, USA.

If these anti-American types are so disgusted by &quot;Corporate America, Inc.&quot; and all that is American, then why do they pirate American intellectual property?

Why aren&#039;t they pirating Chinese and Venezuelan movies, or French and British OSs, or Denmark&#039;s and Belgium&#039;s office suite software?  Could it be that they&#039;re schizophrenic: suffering from foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of American business and Bush Derangement Syndrome, but madly in love with American business products?  Or, maybe they just find it easy to rationalize taking things that don&#039;t belong to them, kinda like when they were children?

BTW, enjoy the smell of these typical anti-American intellectual fruitless musings from &quot;anonymous Internet cowards&quot;:

#4: &quot;America is one nasty country to live in. Evilâ€¦ pure evil this is. Thank god I don&#039;t live in there.&quot;

#9: &quot;What would that chimp Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Co get then if they were brought to the court for crime against humanity? I just can&#039;t take that scummy American way of whatever you might want to call it anymore. Stay away from the rest of the world ffs!&quot;

#23: &quot;America is a ***** up country. That&#039;s for sure.&quot;

#65: &quot;U.S.A is the axis if evil now days&quot;

#31: &quot;another reason why we should nuke usa and no im not a muslim&quot;

#142: &quot;America makes people want to attack it and its allies.&quot;

#171: &quot;hey Adam, I know why you bring up WWII - because it was pretty much the last time you Americans did something right.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#223, Reasoned?</p>
<p>1. The only chance that this guy will serve 10 years of a sentence is if he uses wikipedia for legal advice!  </p>
<p>In the American criminal justice system, most criminals do not complete their sentence and are released early for good behavior, etc.  Parole boards exist for the purpose of determining/granting parole.</p>
<p>2. Judges (sometimes juries) set sentencing, regardless what the statute reads, particularly if they are libs.</p>
<p>This is why America needs a truth-in-sentencing law because there is no truth in these prison sentences.</p>
<p>HE WILL NOT SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The reason why America cares about pirates and piracy is that America is one of the biggest sources of intellectual property in the world  It&#8217;s not like China, Saudi Arabia, France, Britain, Germany, Denmark and Luxembourg have a lot to lose.</p>
<p>Most of the computers in the world are powered by a CPU designed and built by an American company, using an OS developed by an American company, posting anti-American comments on an Internet/WWW created by Americans, and pirating movies created by Hollyweird, USA.</p>
<p>If these anti-American types are so disgusted by &#8220;Corporate America, Inc.&#8221; and all that is American, then why do they pirate American intellectual property?</p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t they pirating Chinese and Venezuelan movies, or French and British OSs, or Denmark&#8217;s and Belgium&#8217;s office suite software?  Could it be that they&#8217;re schizophrenic: suffering from foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of American business and Bush Derangement Syndrome, but madly in love with American business products?  Or, maybe they just find it easy to rationalize taking things that don&#8217;t belong to them, kinda like when they were children?</p>
<p>BTW, enjoy the smell of these typical anti-American intellectual fruitless musings from &#8220;anonymous Internet cowards&#8221;:</p>
<p>#4: &#8220;America is one nasty country to live in. Evilâ€¦ pure evil this is. Thank god I don&#8217;t live in there.&#8221;</p>
<p>#9: &#8220;What would that chimp Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Co get then if they were brought to the court for crime against humanity? I just can&#8217;t take that scummy American way of whatever you might want to call it anymore. Stay away from the rest of the world ffs!&#8221;</p>
<p>#23: &#8220;America is a ***** up country. That&#8217;s for sure.&#8221;</p>
<p>#65: &#8220;U.S.A is the axis if evil now days&#8221;</p>
<p>#31: &#8220;another reason why we should nuke usa and no im not a muslim&#8221;</p>
<p>#142: &#8220;America makes people want to attack it and its allies.&#8221;</p>
<p>#171: &#8220;hey Adam, I know why you bring up WWII &#8211; because it was pretty much the last time you Americans did something right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bwahaha!</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219333</link>
		<dc:creator>Bwahaha!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, a reasonable objection there from a well-reasoned guy. So, instead of pointing out to Amerifascist that the German Newspapers reported pretty much the same things on Auschwitz in their time to keep people clear of such &quot;necessary evils&quot;, and without digging up the American death toll of countless &quot;global interventions&quot; (= undeclared wars) since WWII, I will close this off-topic argument (or &quot;fruitless pissing contest&quot;) with the remark that I never even said I was Anti-American, only Anti-Stupidity (= Anti-Nationalistic and Anti-Religious), because these two things are the roots of the most vile deeds ever committed by mankind, and always in the name of (or cloaked by) the so-called &quot;greater good&quot;. 

So just remember what Bill Hicks, one of the finest comedians and social commentators ever to walk the  planet, had to say about nationalism:

&quot;It was a round earth, last time I checked.&quot;

Peace, over and out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, a reasonable objection there from a well-reasoned guy. So, instead of pointing out to Amerifascist that the German Newspapers reported pretty much the same things on Auschwitz in their time to keep people clear of such &#8220;necessary evils&#8221;, and without digging up the American death toll of countless &#8220;global interventions&#8221; (= undeclared wars) since WWII, I will close this off-topic argument (or &#8220;fruitless pissing contest&#8221;) with the remark that I never even said I was Anti-American, only Anti-Stupidity (= Anti-Nationalistic and Anti-Religious), because these two things are the roots of the most vile deeds ever committed by mankind, and always in the name of (or cloaked by) the so-called &#8220;greater good&#8221;. </p>
<p>So just remember what Bill Hicks, one of the finest comedians and social commentators ever to walk the  planet, had to say about nationalism:</p>
<p>&#8220;It was a round earth, last time I checked.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peace, over and out!</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219250</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#223, Reasoned?

You gotta raise your game, son.

1. Good thing most honest criminals don&#039;t rely on wikipedia for their legal advice.  You don&#039;t know much about the U.S. criminal justice system: most criminals DON&#039;T COMPLETE THEIR SENTENCES.  They get reduced sentences for good behavior, or gain parole from prison from parole boards.  This explains why, for example, sex offenders can get early release only to rape some child/adult again.

2. Judges (sometimes juries) make sentencing decisions, with advice from prosecutors and plea from defense attorneys.

HE WILL NOT SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!

3. America has the most to lose from piracy of intellectual property since America produces a huge portion of the world&#039;s intellectual property.  Most of the world uses an OS produced by an American company, over an Internet invented by America(not Algore); and the anti-American pirates upload movies produced by Hollyweird - they have little respect for the development and cost of producing things like the Internet, software, and movies.

BTW, the anti-American &quot;anonymous Internet cowards&quot; who practice their cultural superiority with &quot;intellectual&quot; gems such as these:

#4: &quot;America is one nasty country to live in. Evilâ€¦ pure evil this is. Thank god I don&#039;t live in there.&quot;

# 9: &quot;What would that chimp Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Co get then if they were brought to the court for crime against humanity? I just can&#039;t take that scummy American way of whatever you might want to call it anymore. Stay away from the rest of the world ffs!&quot;

#23: &quot;America is a ***** up country. That&#039;s for sure.&quot;

#65: &quot;U.S.A is the axis if evil now days&quot;

#31: &quot;another reason why we should nuke usa and no im not a muslim&quot;

#142: &quot;America makes people want to attack it and its allies.&quot;

#171: &quot;hey Adam, I know why you bring up WWII - because it was pretty much the last time you Americans did something right.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#223, Reasoned?</p>
<p>You gotta raise your game, son.</p>
<p>1. Good thing most honest criminals don&#8217;t rely on wikipedia for their legal advice.  You don&#8217;t know much about the U.S. criminal justice system: most criminals DON&#8217;T COMPLETE THEIR SENTENCES.  They get reduced sentences for good behavior, or gain parole from prison from parole boards.  This explains why, for example, sex offenders can get early release only to rape some child/adult again.</p>
<p>2. Judges (sometimes juries) make sentencing decisions, with advice from prosecutors and plea from defense attorneys.</p>
<p>HE WILL NOT SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!</p>
<p>3. America has the most to lose from piracy of intellectual property since America produces a huge portion of the world&#8217;s intellectual property.  Most of the world uses an OS produced by an American company, over an Internet invented by America(not Algore); and the anti-American pirates upload movies produced by Hollyweird &#8211; they have little respect for the development and cost of producing things like the Internet, software, and movies.</p>
<p>BTW, the anti-American &#8220;anonymous Internet cowards&#8221; who practice their cultural superiority with &#8220;intellectual&#8221; gems such as these:</p>
<p>#4: &#8220;America is one nasty country to live in. Evilâ€¦ pure evil this is. Thank god I don&#8217;t live in there.&#8221;</p>
<p># 9: &#8220;What would that chimp Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Co get then if they were brought to the court for crime against humanity? I just can&#8217;t take that scummy American way of whatever you might want to call it anymore. Stay away from the rest of the world ffs!&#8221;</p>
<p>#23: &#8220;America is a ***** up country. That&#8217;s for sure.&#8221;</p>
<p>#65: &#8220;U.S.A is the axis if evil now days&#8221;</p>
<p>#31: &#8220;another reason why we should nuke usa and no im not a muslim&#8221;</p>
<p>#142: &#8220;America makes people want to attack it and its allies.&#8221;</p>
<p>#171: &#8220;hey Adam, I know why you bring up WWII &#8211; because it was pretty much the last time you Americans did something right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219190</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Mr. Do will not be going to jail for 10 years. Read the article again, he &quot;faces&quot; 10 years, which means that is the maximum penalty for the crimes he pleaded guilty to.  Then read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extenuating_circumstances.  Next time you feel like taking an off the cuff extreme point of view, perhaps you ought to &quot;extenuate&quot; your attitude by doing a little research.

2) Piracy absolutely causes monetary harm to the rights holder, it&#039;s Economics 101 plain and simple.  Let&#039;s say I created software, for anyone who downloads it, makes it possible to print passable copies of the 20 Euro currency on their home printer.   Any use of my hypothetical software would not reduce the actual amount Euro in the EU central bank, but  the currency devaluation, if used to the scale that IP piracy is committed, would be felt across the European continent.  Intellectual property IS the currency of the rights holder.  Piracy is not so much stealing as it is counterfeiting that undermines the fundamental economics of the industries it affects.

3) Business plans don&#039;t turn on a dime.  Its way too simplistic to think the movie,music, and software industries should just abandon their current fee for use model and way too irresponsible for ALL the stakeholders on their side of the equation.  &quot;For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and WRONG&quot;.  -H. L. Mencken

4) Enough with the cultural superiority arguments, WGASA.  Invectives and taunts are the hobgoblins of anonymous Internet cowards!  Raise your game and your intellectual credibility will follow.  Otherwise, you must really enjoy the smell of urine to engage  in a fruitless pissing contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Mr. Do will not be going to jail for 10 years. Read the article again, he &#8220;faces&#8221; 10 years, which means that is the maximum penalty for the crimes he pleaded guilty to.  Then read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extenuating_circumstances.  Next time you feel like taking an off the cuff extreme point of view, perhaps you ought to &#8220;extenuate&#8221; your attitude by doing a little research.</p>
<p>2) Piracy absolutely causes monetary harm to the rights holder, it&#8217;s Economics 101 plain and simple.  Let&#8217;s say I created software, for anyone who downloads it, makes it possible to print passable copies of the 20 Euro currency on their home printer.   Any use of my hypothetical software would not reduce the actual amount Euro in the EU central bank, but  the currency devaluation, if used to the scale that IP piracy is committed, would be felt across the European continent.  Intellectual property IS the currency of the rights holder.  Piracy is not so much stealing as it is counterfeiting that undermines the fundamental economics of the industries it affects.</p>
<p>3) Business plans don&#8217;t turn on a dime.  Its way too simplistic to think the movie,music, and software industries should just abandon their current fee for use model and way too irresponsible for ALL the stakeholders on their side of the equation.  &#8220;For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and WRONG&#8221;.  -H. L. Mencken</p>
<p>4) Enough with the cultural superiority arguments, WGASA.  Invectives and taunts are the hobgoblins of anonymous Internet cowards!  Raise your game and your intellectual credibility will follow.  Otherwise, you must really enjoy the smell of urine to engage  in a fruitless pissing contest.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219163</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that we&#039;ve tackled the world&#039;s problem of smug, arrogant, ignorant anti-Americans, some of you guys need a reality check:

THIS GUY WON&#039;T SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!

Apparently, none of you bright anti-Americans bothered to look at the hyperlinks in the article.  One of these uploaders is getting 5 months in prison and 5 months of home detention and a $3K fine.  Another guy got pretty much the same deal to sing.

You gotta realize that American prosecutors use the leverage of these penalties to extract plea agreements to avoid going to court.  90% or more of cases get plea bargained away, otherwise the court system would grind to a halt.

2nd, American judges have guidelines to use for sentencing and aren&#039;t always inclined to go with the max, especially the libs on the court.

3rd, there is no truth in sentencing law in America - guys getting life imprisonment get released for good behavior or parole, for example.  It&#039;s not normal that ANY criminal will serve his complete sentence.

Will prosecutors make an example of the ringleader?  Of course.  But, he still won&#039;t serve 10 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we&#8217;ve tackled the world&#8217;s problem of smug, arrogant, ignorant anti-Americans, some of you guys need a reality check:</p>
<p>THIS GUY WON&#8217;T SERVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON!</p>
<p>Apparently, none of you bright anti-Americans bothered to look at the hyperlinks in the article.  One of these uploaders is getting 5 months in prison and 5 months of home detention and a $3K fine.  Another guy got pretty much the same deal to sing.</p>
<p>You gotta realize that American prosecutors use the leverage of these penalties to extract plea agreements to avoid going to court.  90% or more of cases get plea bargained away, otherwise the court system would grind to a halt.</p>
<p>2nd, American judges have guidelines to use for sentencing and aren&#8217;t always inclined to go with the max, especially the libs on the court.</p>
<p>3rd, there is no truth in sentencing law in America &#8211; guys getting life imprisonment get released for good behavior or parole, for example.  It&#8217;s not normal that ANY criminal will serve his complete sentence.</p>
<p>Will prosecutors make an example of the ringleader?  Of course.  But, he still won&#8217;t serve 10 years!</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-219107</link>
		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#220, Bwhaha:

1. BODY COUNT.  let&#039;s skip the poor souls tortured and murdered by Europeans in the 1,900 years of Euro history before WWI ---- you could line up the 100,000,000+ human beings killed as a result of Europeans in the past 90 years of America&#039;s existence and their bodies would circle the planet 5 times or reach halfway to the MOON!  You Europeans have been no different in the past 90 years than you were in the previous 1,900 years.

2. GUANTANAMO BAY.  While the French, British, Germans, Russians, Italians, Romanians, etc. were torturing and maiming untold millions of human beings, did any other their captors hire lawyers to beg and plead to stay with their captors?:

Associated Press, 8/7/07: 

&quot;This was supposed to be the moment Ahmed Bel Bacha was waiting for -- the end of his five years in prison at Guantanamo Bay. Instead, the Algerian is fighting to stay put rather than return home.  Bel Bacha, reportedly slated to leave Guantanamo Bay soon along with three of his countrymen, fears he will be tortured back in Algeria, a country he had already fled once before to seek asylum in Britain, his lawyers say. And so lawyers for the 38-year-old former hotel cleaner have been waging an 11th-hour attempt to keep him temporarily at Guantanamo while looking for another country to give him political asylum. Bel Bacha -- captured in Pakistan and deemed an enemy combatant by the U.S. -- is not alone in his fears. Human rights groups say at least two dozen Guantanamo detainees -- including many from the North African countries of Libya, Algeria and Tunisia -- are afraid they will face abuse upon returning home.&quot;


The terrorists own lawyers are putting the lie to the &quot;torture&quot; their clients receive from America.

Makes sense these terrorists would rather stay under American control, given the real &quot;torture&quot; they might receive elsewhere (May 15, 2007 news report):

&quot;An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of &#039;crap,&#039; being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce. Majid Khan of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon. Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an &quot;enemy combatant&quot; that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment. At one point, Kan said he wrote on his walls, &#039;stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer.&#039;&quot;

Sounds like this terrorist would consider himself tortured because he couldn&#039;t upload Star Wars III!


A New York journalist who visited Guantanamo Bay last year wrote:

&quot;The high-minded critics who complain about torture are wrong. We are far too soft on these guys - and, as a result, aren&#039;t getting the valuable intelligence we need to save American lives.

The politically correct regulations are unbelievable. Detainees are entitled to a full eight hours sleep and can&#039;t be woken up for interrogations. They enjoy three meals and five prayers per day, without interruption. They are entitled to a minimum of two hours of outdoor recreation per day.

Interrogations are limited to four hours, usually running two - and (of course) are interrupted for prayers. One interrogator actually bakes cookies for detainees, while another serves them Subway or McDonald&#039;s sandwiches. Both are available on base. (Filet o&#039; Fish is an al Qaeda favorite.)

Interrogations are not video or audio taped, perhaps to preserve detainee privacy.

Call it excessive compassion by a nation devoted to therapy, but it&#039;s dangerous. Adm. Harris admitted to me that a multi-cell al Qaeda network has developed in the camp. Military intelligence can&#039;t yet identify their leaders, but notes that they have cells for monitoring the movements and identities of guards and doctors, cells dedicated to training, others for making weapons and so on.

And they can make weapons from almost anything. Guards have been attacked with springs taken from inside faucets, broken fluorescent light bulbs and fan blades. Some are more elaborate. &quot;These folks are MacGyvers,&quot; Harris said.

Other cells pass messages from leaders in one camp to followers in others. How? Detainees use the envelopes sent to them by their attorneys to pass messages. (Some 1,000 lawyers represent 440 prisoners, all on a pro bono basis, with more than 18,500 letters in and out of Gitmo in the past year.) Guards are not allowed to look inside these envelopes because of &quot;attorney-client privilege&quot; - even if they know the document inside is an Arabic-language note written by a prisoner to another prisoner and not a letter to or from a lawyer.

That&#039;s right: Accidentally or not, American lawyers are helping al Qaeda prisoners continue to plot.

There is little doubt what this note-passing and weapons-making is used for. The military recorded 3,232 incidents of detainee misconduct from July 2005 to August 2006 - an average of more than eight incidents per day. Some are nonviolent, but the tally includes coordinated attacks involving everything from throwing bodily fluids on guards (432 times) to 90 stabbings with homemade knives.

One detainee slashed a doctor who was trying to save his life; the doctors wear body armor to treat their patients. &quot;

Europeans are the last ones who should be lecturing America on &quot;torture&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#220, Bwhaha:</p>
<p>1. BODY COUNT.  let&#8217;s skip the poor souls tortured and murdered by Europeans in the 1,900 years of Euro history before WWI &#8212;- you could line up the 100,000,000+ human beings killed as a result of Europeans in the past 90 years of America&#8217;s existence and their bodies would circle the planet 5 times or reach halfway to the MOON!  You Europeans have been no different in the past 90 years than you were in the previous 1,900 years.</p>
<p>2. GUANTANAMO BAY.  While the French, British, Germans, Russians, Italians, Romanians, etc. were torturing and maiming untold millions of human beings, did any other their captors hire lawyers to beg and plead to stay with their captors?:</p>
<p>Associated Press, 8/7/07: </p>
<p>&#8220;This was supposed to be the moment Ahmed Bel Bacha was waiting for &#8212; the end of his five years in prison at Guantanamo Bay. Instead, the Algerian is fighting to stay put rather than return home.  Bel Bacha, reportedly slated to leave Guantanamo Bay soon along with three of his countrymen, fears he will be tortured back in Algeria, a country he had already fled once before to seek asylum in Britain, his lawyers say. And so lawyers for the 38-year-old former hotel cleaner have been waging an 11th-hour attempt to keep him temporarily at Guantanamo while looking for another country to give him political asylum. Bel Bacha &#8212; captured in Pakistan and deemed an enemy combatant by the U.S. &#8212; is not alone in his fears. Human rights groups say at least two dozen Guantanamo detainees &#8212; including many from the North African countries of Libya, Algeria and Tunisia &#8212; are afraid they will face abuse upon returning home.&#8221;</p>
<p>The terrorists own lawyers are putting the lie to the &#8220;torture&#8221; their clients receive from America.</p>
<p>Makes sense these terrorists would rather stay under American control, given the real &#8220;torture&#8221; they might receive elsewhere (May 15, 2007 news report):</p>
<p>&#8220;An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of &#8216;crap,&#8217; being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce. Majid Khan of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon. Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an &#8220;enemy combatant&#8221; that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment. At one point, Kan said he wrote on his walls, &#8216;stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like this terrorist would consider himself tortured because he couldn&#8217;t upload Star Wars III!</p>
<p>A New York journalist who visited Guantanamo Bay last year wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;The high-minded critics who complain about torture are wrong. We are far too soft on these guys &#8211; and, as a result, aren&#8217;t getting the valuable intelligence we need to save American lives.</p>
<p>The politically correct regulations are unbelievable. Detainees are entitled to a full eight hours sleep and can&#8217;t be woken up for interrogations. They enjoy three meals and five prayers per day, without interruption. They are entitled to a minimum of two hours of outdoor recreation per day.</p>
<p>Interrogations are limited to four hours, usually running two &#8211; and (of course) are interrupted for prayers. One interrogator actually bakes cookies for detainees, while another serves them Subway or McDonald&#8217;s sandwiches. Both are available on base. (Filet o&#8217; Fish is an al Qaeda favorite.)</p>
<p>Interrogations are not video or audio taped, perhaps to preserve detainee privacy.</p>
<p>Call it excessive compassion by a nation devoted to therapy, but it&#8217;s dangerous. Adm. Harris admitted to me that a multi-cell al Qaeda network has developed in the camp. Military intelligence can&#8217;t yet identify their leaders, but notes that they have cells for monitoring the movements and identities of guards and doctors, cells dedicated to training, others for making weapons and so on.</p>
<p>And they can make weapons from almost anything. Guards have been attacked with springs taken from inside faucets, broken fluorescent light bulbs and fan blades. Some are more elaborate. &#8220;These folks are MacGyvers,&#8221; Harris said.</p>
<p>Other cells pass messages from leaders in one camp to followers in others. How? Detainees use the envelopes sent to them by their attorneys to pass messages. (Some 1,000 lawyers represent 440 prisoners, all on a pro bono basis, with more than 18,500 letters in and out of Gitmo in the past year.) Guards are not allowed to look inside these envelopes because of &#8220;attorney-client privilege&#8221; &#8211; even if they know the document inside is an Arabic-language note written by a prisoner to another prisoner and not a letter to or from a lawyer.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right: Accidentally or not, American lawyers are helping al Qaeda prisoners continue to plot.</p>
<p>There is little doubt what this note-passing and weapons-making is used for. The military recorded 3,232 incidents of detainee misconduct from July 2005 to August 2006 &#8211; an average of more than eight incidents per day. Some are nonviolent, but the tally includes coordinated attacks involving everything from throwing bodily fluids on guards (432 times) to 90 stabbings with homemade knives.</p>
<p>One detainee slashed a doctor who was trying to save his life; the doctors wear body armor to treat their patients. &#8221;</p>
<p>Europeans are the last ones who should be lecturing America on &#8220;torture&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bwahaha!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bwahaha!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 218, Amer ...ehm, Eurofascists:

Aw, thanks man, you just opened my eyes there. Surely, the past violent history of European countries gives America every right to presently corrupt, torture and wage war on the rest of the world, because we all know you can&#039;t stand being last in line, and since your country&#039;s violence has only a history of some 200 years (although you made some really good us of these, body-count wise), you sure have a lot of catching up to do. Geez, it must really hurt your national pride to be 1800 years behind everybody else. And we don&#039;t expect you to learn from World History (after all, you never were a part of it, because everybody knows your ancestors all immigrated to America from the realms of faerie), so you&#039;re free to smear yourself with blood and guts whenever you want to.

Moreover, since America currently is the worlds greatest Weapons supplier  and we also know that a huge part of your shaky economy depends on that, we have nothing against you carrying on with selling genuinely engineered death throughout the world. After all, we already had our fun with bloodshed and war profiteering in the last couple centurys, and why should you be affected by that in any way, when you just discovered how necessary concentration camps can be? 

So thanks again for being a shining example for us all. Hitler and Stalin will be proud of you, as will Attila the hun, Pol Pot, Charles Manson, three generations of the Bush family and all other deranged and criminally insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 218, Amer &#8230;ehm, Eurofascists:</p>
<p>Aw, thanks man, you just opened my eyes there. Surely, the past violent history of European countries gives America every right to presently corrupt, torture and wage war on the rest of the world, because we all know you can&#8217;t stand being last in line, and since your country&#8217;s violence has only a history of some 200 years (although you made some really good us of these, body-count wise), you sure have a lot of catching up to do. Geez, it must really hurt your national pride to be 1800 years behind everybody else. And we don&#8217;t expect you to learn from World History (after all, you never were a part of it, because everybody knows your ancestors all immigrated to America from the realms of faerie), so you&#8217;re free to smear yourself with blood and guts whenever you want to.</p>
<p>Moreover, since America currently is the worlds greatest Weapons supplier  and we also know that a huge part of your shaky economy depends on that, we have nothing against you carrying on with selling genuinely engineered death throughout the world. After all, we already had our fun with bloodshed and war profiteering in the last couple centurys, and why should you be affected by that in any way, when you just discovered how necessary concentration camps can be? </p>
<p>So thanks again for being a shining example for us all. Hitler and Stalin will be proud of you, as will Attila the hun, Pol Pot, Charles Manson, three generations of the Bush family and all other deranged and criminally insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Rostol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;218506&quot;]#207, Bwahaha; #216, European Ignorance is bliss:

How dare you Europeans attack America!
blah blah ...

10. Europeans love killing so much, you did it for a Hundred Years straight!
[/quote]
As off topic as your post is (as the ones it makes reference to) for someone who knows that much about massacres, surely you considered that yes there was a war between France and England that lasted 116 years, which was really 3 or 4 different wars close together... but due to the years that this took place (before 1492), most of US&#039;s ancestors FOUGHT in that war ...

Before you go bad-mouthing a whole continent of people, if you are white or latino there is a 99% chance are your grandfather or great-grandfather was european.

Anyway, this &quot;piracy&quot; thing where the only thing stolen is the watching of someone else&#039;s work (just like sneaking into a cinema), or facilitating that watching by a 3rd party (just like holding the emergency exit door open for a friend at that same cinema) is being blown out of proportion all over the world, sadly not exclusively in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="218506"]#207, Bwahaha; #216, European Ignorance is bliss:</p>
<p>How dare you Europeans attack America!<br />
blah blah &#8230;</p>
<p>10. Europeans love killing so much, you did it for a Hundred Years straight!<br />
[/quote]<br />
As off topic as your post is (as the ones it makes reference to) for someone who knows that much about massacres, surely you considered that yes there was a war between France and England that lasted 116 years, which was really 3 or 4 different wars close together&#8230; but due to the years that this took place (before 1492), most of US&#8217;s ancestors FOUGHT in that war &#8230;</p>
<p>Before you go bad-mouthing a whole continent of people, if you are white or latino there is a 99% chance are your grandfather or great-grandfather was european.</p>
<p>Anyway, this &#8220;piracy&#8221; thing where the only thing stolen is the watching of someone else&#8217;s work (just like sneaking into a cinema), or facilitating that watching by a 3rd party (just like holding the emergency exit door open for a friend at that same cinema) is being blown out of proportion all over the world, sadly not exclusively in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurofascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eurofascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#207, Bwahaha; #216, European Ignorance is bliss:

How dare you Europeans attack America!

Before you smug, arrogant European hypocrites drone on about GW, Cheney and Rumsfeld and crimes against humanity, keep this in mind:

Since you Europeans first learned to read and write you&#039;ve perfected RAPE, TORTURE, and KILLING of HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of your fellow human beings!  Not one of your countries escapes complicity in barbarism.

How can anyone doubt that Europe has been a constant threat to PEACE? - chew on a tiny list of your human achievements:

1. In the 1950s and 60s, France (after signing the Geneva Conventions), used its Algerian colonialism to brutally torture, rape and murder 500,000+ Algerians; that was shortly after the great Frenchman Papon and his buddies deported some 76,000+ Jews to Germany (virtually all were exterminated);

2. The British perfected the European tool of starvation and military occupation long before the &quot;Great&quot; famine in Ireland (which killed 1,000,000 Irish men, women and children), and has ruled with an iron fist for centuries; by the 1950s Britain honed these skills to operate Gulags to enforce its African colonialism by brutally raping, torturing and starving Kenyan men, women and children, with more than 100,000+ Africans dead;

3. Europeans caused WWI, which led to the deaths of some 15,000,000 lives;

4. Europeans, led by your Adolf Hitler, caused WWII, which led to the deaths of some 50,000,000 human lives; he proved his European bona fides by exterminating Jews, using Gulags, murders, torture and massacre of some 6,000,000+ human lives;

6. Joseph Stalin, another hero of anti-Americans, enjoyed the pleasure 
of Gulags, executions and torture, to the tune of some 20,000,000+ human lives.  Of course, he learned well from Ivan the Terrible, who killed a mere 100,000 human beings;

7. Mussolini, another great European, killed some 250,000+ human lives;

8. Yugoslavia, murdered another 500,000+ human lives;

9. Romania, used its own Gulags to murder another 500,000+ human lives;

10. Europeans love killing so much, you did it for a Hundred Years straight!

You Europeans gave up any moral right to attack America, which, in the main, has served humanity far better than Europe, given its ability to rape, torture and kill your fellow human beings.

We don&#039;t hold a candle to Europeans if one man goes to jail for stealing some movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#207, Bwahaha; #216, European Ignorance is bliss:</p>
<p>How dare you Europeans attack America!</p>
<p>Before you smug, arrogant European hypocrites drone on about GW, Cheney and Rumsfeld and crimes against humanity, keep this in mind:</p>
<p>Since you Europeans first learned to read and write you&#8217;ve perfected RAPE, TORTURE, and KILLING of HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of your fellow human beings!  Not one of your countries escapes complicity in barbarism.</p>
<p>How can anyone doubt that Europe has been a constant threat to PEACE? &#8211; chew on a tiny list of your human achievements:</p>
<p>1. In the 1950s and 60s, France (after signing the Geneva Conventions), used its Algerian colonialism to brutally torture, rape and murder 500,000+ Algerians; that was shortly after the great Frenchman Papon and his buddies deported some 76,000+ Jews to Germany (virtually all were exterminated);</p>
<p>2. The British perfected the European tool of starvation and military occupation long before the &#8220;Great&#8221; famine in Ireland (which killed 1,000,000 Irish men, women and children), and has ruled with an iron fist for centuries; by the 1950s Britain honed these skills to operate Gulags to enforce its African colonialism by brutally raping, torturing and starving Kenyan men, women and children, with more than 100,000+ Africans dead;</p>
<p>3. Europeans caused WWI, which led to the deaths of some 15,000,000 lives;</p>
<p>4. Europeans, led by your Adolf Hitler, caused WWII, which led to the deaths of some 50,000,000 human lives; he proved his European bona fides by exterminating Jews, using Gulags, murders, torture and massacre of some 6,000,000+ human lives;</p>
<p>6. Joseph Stalin, another hero of anti-Americans, enjoyed the pleasure<br />
of Gulags, executions and torture, to the tune of some 20,000,000+ human lives.  Of course, he learned well from Ivan the Terrible, who killed a mere 100,000 human beings;</p>
<p>7. Mussolini, another great European, killed some 250,000+ human lives;</p>
<p>8. Yugoslavia, murdered another 500,000+ human lives;</p>
<p>9. Romania, used its own Gulags to murder another 500,000+ human lives;</p>
<p>10. Europeans love killing so much, you did it for a Hundred Years straight!</p>
<p>You Europeans gave up any moral right to attack America, which, in the main, has served humanity far better than Europe, given its ability to rape, torture and kill your fellow human beings.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t hold a candle to Europeans if one man goes to jail for stealing some movies.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread has made me angry, and made me laugh, and made me think too.

Aside from the simplistic &#039;Fuck-you&#039;, the thoughtful extremism of the comments tells me that this thing called the internet exposes how truly ignorant we are about each other, about what and why another person/nation thinks, and about how we live or can&#039;t live together.  

May the &#039;better&#039; cultures win!
    
But if I met you on the street, with guns, knives, or sticks in our hands, then I hope we&#039;d have enough sense to talk first, instead of casually brutalizing each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has made me angry, and made me laugh, and made me think too.</p>
<p>Aside from the simplistic &#8216;Fuck-you&#8217;, the thoughtful extremism of the comments tells me that this thing called the internet exposes how truly ignorant we are about each other, about what and why another person/nation thinks, and about how we live or can&#8217;t live together.  </p>
<p>May the &#8216;better&#8217; cultures win!</p>
<p>But if I met you on the street, with guns, knives, or sticks in our hands, then I hope we&#8217;d have enough sense to talk first, instead of casually brutalizing each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignorance is bliss</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-218203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignorance is bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;217475&quot;]#191, European Ignorance is bliss:

I&#039;ll take a look at your pitiful attack on our gracious service to
humanity to save you Europeans from yourselves (again), after you take
a walk around the graves of the 400,000+ Americans who willingly gave up their lives for you and your progeny.

You&#039;re comment is a great reason why we should have left you to your
SS benefactors so you could happily serve the German-Nazi corporate
empire.

There&#039;s a real sickness in Europe and your love of fascism is at its heart.
[/quote]
Well I have already done that.  Can you now look at your fine corporations that were sponsoring and selling war materials to the nazis?  Not to mention that terrorist network your secret services set up afterwards.

I didn&#039;t think so either.  It&#039;s people like you that are pissing on those graves with their disgraceful hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="217475"]#191, European Ignorance is bliss:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a look at your pitiful attack on our gracious service to<br />
humanity to save you Europeans from yourselves (again), after you take<br />
a walk around the graves of the 400,000+ Americans who willingly gave up their lives for you and your progeny.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re comment is a great reason why we should have left you to your<br />
SS benefactors so you could happily serve the German-Nazi corporate<br />
empire.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a real sickness in Europe and your love of fascism is at its heart.<br />
[/quote]<br />
Well I have already done that.  Can you now look at your fine corporations that were sponsoring and selling war materials to the nazis?  Not to mention that terrorist network your secret services set up afterwards.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think so either.  It&#8217;s people like you that are pissing on those graves with their disgraceful hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: DEBob19</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEBob19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know there&#039;s something wrong with the country when someone gets 24 hours in jail and three years probation for driving while drunk AND having cocaine (www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/19/tyson.sentenced.ap/index.html), and you get 10 years and $500,000 fine for illegally uploading a movie. MPAA and RIAA: GO F*CK YOURSELVES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know there&#8217;s something wrong with the country when someone gets 24 hours in jail and three years probation for driving while drunk AND having cocaine (www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/19/tyson.sentenced.ap/index.html), and you get 10 years and $500,000 fine for illegally uploading a movie. MPAA and RIAA: GO F*CK YOURSELVES.</p>
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		<title>By: bittrucker</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/another-elitetorrents-uploader-facing-10-years-in-prison-071117/#comment-218039</link>
		<dc:creator>bittrucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally someone else found the Rape Sentencing statistics from the DOJ.

In your face Mr. Anonymous (posts 29 and 39).

the Sun Sword!: Did you have to train long to become that stupid, or were you just born that way?

Tux: The fact that people do not read EULAs really isn&#039;t my problem. That&#039;s like buying a house without first inspecting it. Anyhoo, in addition to being written in the EULA it was also stated on the product download page as well as the support forums in very clear text.

Again you amaze me with your ignorance. I haven&#039;t been &quot;crying&quot; about lost revenue, hence I will not deactivate the pirate copies out there (although I easily could, by blocking those &quot;fingerprints&quot;).

You have completely missed the point (time and time again) I was originally making, which was this &quot;Piracy does cause a loss of business&quot;.

I don&#039;t really have a problem with the pirated versions out there, I was merely pointing out the fact that if even ONE of those people now running it as a pirate would have paid for a license, I _have_ lost revenue. As for none of them willing to cough up the cash - what the hell do you know? Again, running the stats, there are around 50 users who started out with a pirated copy and have since purchased a license.

The users who are not aware of &quot;my spying tactics&quot; are either illiterate (like yourself) or complete morons (again, very much like yourself) as you really can&#039;t miss the fact it&#039;s doing so. Even listed as a &quot;feature&quot; on the product page.

Finally, pull that penguin out your ass and stop posting rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally someone else found the Rape Sentencing statistics from the DOJ.</p>
<p>In your face Mr. Anonymous (posts 29 and 39).</p>
<p>the Sun Sword!: Did you have to train long to become that stupid, or were you just born that way?</p>
<p>Tux: The fact that people do not read EULAs really isn&#8217;t my problem. That&#8217;s like buying a house without first inspecting it. Anyhoo, in addition to being written in the EULA it was also stated on the product download page as well as the support forums in very clear text.</p>
<p>Again you amaze me with your ignorance. I haven&#8217;t been &#8220;crying&#8221; about lost revenue, hence I will not deactivate the pirate copies out there (although I easily could, by blocking those &#8220;fingerprints&#8221;).</p>
<p>You have completely missed the point (time and time again) I was originally making, which was this &#8220;Piracy does cause a loss of business&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have a problem with the pirated versions out there, I was merely pointing out the fact that if even ONE of those people now running it as a pirate would have paid for a license, I _have_ lost revenue. As for none of them willing to cough up the cash &#8211; what the hell do you know? Again, running the stats, there are around 50 users who started out with a pirated copy and have since purchased a license.</p>
<p>The users who are not aware of &#8220;my spying tactics&#8221; are either illiterate (like yourself) or complete morons (again, very much like yourself) as you really can&#8217;t miss the fact it&#8217;s doing so. Even listed as a &#8220;feature&#8221; on the product page.</p>
<p>Finally, pull that penguin out your ass and stop posting rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Rostol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ All the people comparing this to rape. 

Instead of arguing the average sentence (it is between 11yr and 14yr according to conflicting stats from doj) think that you are comparing this to the WORST act, short of murder, a human being can commit.

It would be more logical to compare this to the enron convictions (avg under 5yrs http://www.chron.com/news/specials/enron/)
And consider the financial losses of the two, Billions of dollars of real money of real people(obviously enron) Vs Little to no real provable money loss by a faceless corporation. 

For those that equate this to stealing, think about it like this, You buy the movie, watch it, don&#039;t like it and decide to sell it on ebay (which you legally CAN&#039;T as now you dont really own the movie just the right to watch it and its non transferrable ... but it digress) (ie: you seed it to 1.0) the person you then sold that movie on ebay makes 100 copies and sells them and so on down the chain ... are YOU liable for those 100.000.000 copies ? or just the first, if any ? 

I am also a software developer, and have &quot;suffered&quot; (tho not much) to piracy, and have lost time thinking and coding up licensing and validation schemes that had nothing to do with my app. But i would never view it at stealing, every pirated copy of my stuff in the wild is for me, not a loss, but someone who likes what i did, just not enough to pay for it. And if i make an effort to make an affordable worthwhile product they will buy it (if they can afford it). But that&#039;s just me as far as i can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ All the people comparing this to rape. </p>
<p>Instead of arguing the average sentence (it is between 11yr and 14yr according to conflicting stats from doj) think that you are comparing this to the WORST act, short of murder, a human being can commit.</p>
<p>It would be more logical to compare this to the enron convictions (avg under 5yrs <a href="http://www.chron.com/news/specials/enron/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/news/specials/enron/</a>)<br />
And consider the financial losses of the two, Billions of dollars of real money of real people(obviously enron) Vs Little to no real provable money loss by a faceless corporation. </p>
<p>For those that equate this to stealing, think about it like this, You buy the movie, watch it, don&#8217;t like it and decide to sell it on ebay (which you legally CAN&#8217;T as now you dont really own the movie just the right to watch it and its non transferrable &#8230; but it digress) (ie: you seed it to 1.0) the person you then sold that movie on ebay makes 100 copies and sells them and so on down the chain &#8230; are YOU liable for those 100.000.000 copies ? or just the first, if any ? </p>
<p>I am also a software developer, and have &#8220;suffered&#8221; (tho not much) to piracy, and have lost time thinking and coding up licensing and validation schemes that had nothing to do with my app. But i would never view it at stealing, every pirated copy of my stuff in the wild is for me, not a loss, but someone who likes what i did, just not enough to pay for it. And if i make an effort to make an affordable worthwhile product they will buy it (if they can afford it). But that&#8217;s just me as far as i can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ bollywood

As may have been mentioned before, the 10 year sentence is the absolute maximum, and it is unlikely that he will serve that much time.

According to this document published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics the average sentence for rape is much longer than 3 years.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/soo.pdf

&quot;For rape defendants sentenced to
prison, the average term imposed was
164 months, or just under 14 years (Page 14).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ bollywood</p>
<p>As may have been mentioned before, the 10 year sentence is the absolute maximum, and it is unlikely that he will serve that much time.</p>
<p>According to this document published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics the average sentence for rape is much longer than 3 years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/soo.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/soo.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;For rape defendants sentenced to<br />
prison, the average term imposed was<br />
164 months, or just under 14 years (Page 14).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bickering on this comments board plays into the hands of the MPAA and RIAA. I  would expect that they pay people to provoke it. It stops us from discussing the issues and uniting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bickering on this comments board plays into the hands of the MPAA and RIAA. I  would expect that they pay people to provoke it. It stops us from discussing the issues and uniting.</p>
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