“Perhaps the industry would be more keen to Globalization if the “fanned subtitles” community hadn’t already stolen the market share?”

Are you really that naive? globalisation is not an option my friend, it’s a fact. Your reply clearly demonstrates the industry’s lack of knowledge and foresight. Keen or not, its already happened, move with it or die, that is what free market economy is all about.

Your corporate clients are all too quick to demand a free market and less regulation until the point that it kicks them in the backside. You reap what you sow. THAT is the bottom line.

“Piracy leads to a decrease in sales. A lack of sales indicates that a film is not well liked by the masses. If a film is not liked by the masses, it is killed (no sequels, tv rights, etc).”

Yours definition of murder is as ambiguous as your definition of cogent. Are you meant to be a lawyer? You’re either a spotty teenager with a grudge yourself or you clearly don’t understand your own field. This has been demonstrated by the many huge errors made during TPB case. If you’re are all there is to worry about then people will go one fleecing your clients forever, just as you are doing.

Fansubbing a movie which, for ridiculous reasons, is not available in your native tongue seems perfectly logical, fair, and even can be seen to work FOR the industry. People watch the movie, enjoy it, and then might buy it from an overseas source, or when it FINALLY gets released in their language, will buy it because they enjoyed it. Not to mention want to see more work by the same actor/director/company.

For example, I’m in Australia. A reasonable, fairly upwardly-motivated country. We speak English. Movies made in Hollywood do not need to be subtitled, dubbed or otherwise altered for us (yes, Tarantino, your original audience needed Grindhouse dumbed down, the rest of us actually comprehended your intentions). Yet, over and over, movies have been released on DVD for weeks if not months before we even get it at the cinema! Silent Hill and Wall-E are two that I can think of off the top of my head, and for both of them we struggled to resist the temptation of buying from Amazon. Instead, we held off, watched it at the cinema and then bought the hideously marked-up Australian versions. I’m glad we did, but so many do not wait. Global (and I mean really global) releases are not that difficult, and certainly limit the temptation to download.

The industries really are just shooting themselves in their feet.

/end rant

This is very common in Europe, where movies are edited too late, and some of them don’t even get released. For example, The X-Files, are only been released this year in my country.

You should thank the fansubs, since they are simply promoting your work (movies, tv shows, anime …), if it wasn’t for them most of your (studios) work wouldn’t have the awareness you have now.

In my country, thanks to fansubs, large communities of TV fans where created. This opened the eyes of the local TVs broadcasters that bought the rights of many of the popular shows. Other shows are simply released straight to DVD.

Another thing, if fansub is illegal why do studios use them. Yes you’ve read it right. Many legal dvd’s and tv shows have fansubs subtitles in it. Here’s an example: http://vimeo.com/3065888

More importantly, it’s impossible to claim this harms revenue. If the movie in question wasn’t available with Hebrew subtitles, then it’s a fair bet that the majority of Israelis won’t pay for it. This, to my mind, would amount to added value rather than damages.

they need to start torrenting their pages so they CANT be shut down! torrent websites need to have an offline aspect to them to prevent them being hosted in any one spot.

if encryption aint there yet (for normal folk) then offline CAN be there. anyone getting a letter for take down should host their site via tpb and offline torrents, perhaps compressed into rar files to keep it as a whole w/o people messing much /w them.

torrents of torrents are also really cool. axxo had one i saw before. had like 700 movie torrents in one easy to download file. 23kb each torrent is like 20mb or so total size for the indexes to download…

so if sites did the same, we download 50mb then go on our way they would be helping quite a bit. :D

> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/14/234939/956

I shake my head in disbelief to be linked with this

you must be a very dumb person for saying sucha stupidities one after another and not looking at things as they are in first place.

Your “laws” can be translated in “Human rights violation” and “abuse of law”.

“dont cry, we are just harming you for our own protection” cop to jailed person

“miss we have to proceed to cavity search” cop to woman in airport

“im gonna teach you how to behave with a bunch of punches in your face” cop to cuffed person

there are tons of this articles written by persons that were the victims and saw the they couldnt do anything to be compensated cause “the law is the law” and shared their stories on the web.

I believe that there are really nice places to live in USA, but the image that represents USA is horrible and full of terror.

You call outsiders terrorists? Your government exports weapons.
They are the terrorists? your own elected representatives are the ones that ou should not trust.

But hey! this is what keeps saying to you year after year, you guys just dont do anything UNLESS it affects you all directly.

I consider myself a lucky and happy person for NOT living in USA.

Oh, and a proud pirate that buys all the movies that i really enjoyed. Im not the rich kind that buys movies that suck huge without knowing it.

Do you have a link on that? Because according to Israeli Copyright Act 2007 ( http://www.tau.ac.il/law/members/birnhack/IsraeliCopyrightAct2007.pdf ) this isn’t the case.

Anyway this is about control, selling the crap they want instead of the stuff you want. It’s the only reason why I do “pirate”. I go to iTunes, a shop, or whatever “legal” place to buy what I want. And the response of the “legal” dealer is always: “Sorry we do not have that but you can choose between our Star Academy and Eurovision delights”. Barf… I cannot stand their vomit so I have to go to Pirate Bay, emule or whatever place where I can get what I want. If the MPAA types do not want to sell it to me, it’s their problem. Because I’ll get it anyway. And certainly *not* buy their crap.

But these guys are just like horse carriage makers trying to ban the automobile in order to protect their obsolete business. They will just postpone their death a bit more. But at the end they will die the same.

Imagine world, where is no piracy. But where all those sites like Itunes, internet radios, youtubes… well all legal modern stuff is.

YOUR “loss” is counted from lack of selling DVD and CD’s. But it will never be back. It will never return. Those itunes, radios, etc etc provides 10* more comfort for 10* less money.

Killing all pirates will not bring back disk sales!!!