Comments on: Anti-Piracy Group Drops Ridiculous Claim Against ISP

By: ater

ater — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:17:03 +0000

It’s not an ISP sticking up for its customers, it’s an ISP afraid of being legally held responsible for the actions of thousands of people it does not control (sets a bad precedent requiring more resources than an ISP wants to have to spend tracking its customers, and possibly more than an ISP can legally do). It just so happens that lines up with protecting its customers.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:03:38 +0000

So far there are only few cases where the MAFIAA friends were actually right in their claims. Wheter they are gonna open their eyes and follow successful initiatives like Canadian Thorny one is yet to be seen.

By: StevO

StevO — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:58:51 +0000

go leave your signature:
http://www.copyrightalliance.org/letter/ im Pirate Pete get your few words in atleast. Let your voice be heard to President Obama too. This is a letter being sent to Obama.

By: Catprog

Catprog — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:09:08 +0000

@43 Oct 02, 2009 at 02:10 by Anonymous

What they do is connect to the swarms and get the IP’s that way. No court order needed.

Then they pass the IP along to the ISP. No need for any personal data.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:10:44 +0000

How do these companies obtain user data? Like IP addresses and logs of downloaded files? Isn’t that illegal without a court order?

By: MultiCast-DHT Tunnels

MultiCast-DHT Tunnels — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:13:11 +0000

http://www.macuser.co.uk/news/269620/carphone-warehouse-threatens-court-action-to-stop-file-sharing-disconnections.html

Carphone Warehouse threatens court action to stop file sharing disconnections 9:35AM, Thursday 1st October 2009

Carphone Warehouse has threatened to take the Government to court if his company is forced to disconnect file-sharers.

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MakinMo's Tech Blog — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:11:35 +0000

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By: JordSti

JordSti — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:11:56 +0000

AFACT are fuckin idiot, if they win they will kill the Australian ISP, which ISP will continue to offer the service if they need to monitor all our customer..

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By: John

John — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:57:35 +0000

AFACT will win!

By how much will be interesting, it will be directly related to how big the behind the curtain dealings are.

By: D2LV

D2LV — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:51:48 +0000

http://www.hahastop.com/pictures/How_Green.jpg

By: ---

--- — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:12:04 +0000

Because we all know how great youtube’s flagging and DMCA system is when someone just accuses you of breaking the rules.

Great, so these knobends are just going to pass in some huge list of IPs, accused of wrong-doing without any furthur evidence, and get them taken off the internet.

I hope ISPs stick up for themselves and point out how much this is going to cost all of us, just so these cock suckers can regains that 6% to 7% loss in music sales.

Oh run for the hills, the music industry is dead because we figure everyone who downloads a track, would have gone out and bought the CD at full price! Oh the loss in sales!

By: Predator

Predator — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:59:16 +0000

“Even if the isp crushes AFACT during trial, it won’t matter one bit. The movie industry has all the money, all the power, therefore all the wins!”

Ya, but we have the guns and the bullets and the will to use them.

Just a though.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:50:36 +0000

Thomas Norström should hanged!

By: Krakak

Krakak — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:18:07 +0000

I think i will write a thoughtful email to AFACTs expert witness, Nigel Carson of Ferrier Hodgson Group:

nigel.carson@fh.com.au

By: theorang3box

theorang3box — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:52:59 +0000

Fu*k the MPAA, and FU*K the RIAA….
April 1, 2006 – Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (MPAA) chairman Dan Glickman and Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) president Cary Sherman today announced the historic merger of the two organizations. The newly-created entity is being called the Music And Film Industry Association of America™, Inc.
LOL
http://mafiaa.org/
World Police for the Music and Movie Industry artists of America.
This is The Dumb-arses trying to shut down the Bay and half the net!

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:12:12 +0000

We can just use the post office excuse with this one. The only difference i can think of, is the post office isn’t efficient at copyright infringement like a ISP would be.

“iiNet failed to prevent online copyright theft of customers, has always been the main part of the case”

ANYWAYS GO iiNet!!!

By: michael8124

michael8124 — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:09:06 +0000

You know like in the summer when you get a fly that lands on your arm, you shoo it away, and it lands on the exact same spot over and over again, and doesn’t go away until you kill it?

These anti-pirate/pro-copyright groups are just as annoying. AFACT can go suck a banana. I wish iiNet the best of luck, but with all those movie companies being represented by AFACT, it’s gonna be a tough battle.

By: u r all lamers

u r all lamers — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:35:19 +0000

AFACT will win! Wake up people, the movie industry has been winning cases left and right. Of course AFACT remains upbeat, the people involved in deciding the outcomes of such cases are totally clueless about file sharing or internet for that matter.

What goes on in the court room won’t matter one bit. Just like the TPB trial, it will come down to politics with judge/jury biases against the ISP’s case. Even if the isp crushes AFACT during trial, it won’t matter one bit. The movie industry has all the money, all the power, therefore all the wins!

By: Anon

Anon — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:41:28 +0000

They realize that they can’t file individual suits against users because its too costly and rarely has an incentive for them, so they’re switching strategy and instead taking on the people with money and an actual face they can pinpoint it on.
This card has been played before and it lost. Seriously, companies need to look at past examples before playing games.

By: Anon

Anon — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:37:44 +0000

Not surprised ReasonedMind isn’t trolling this post yet. ISP’s are not responsible for what others do, only the people themselves are responsible. Thats like blaming alcohol companies for causing drunk driving accidents, or banning kitchen knives because they could harm someone..Then holding the company responsible when something happens with one of their products.
That’s why they backed out, because they dont have a legal claim to blame an ISP for what their users are doing.

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By: Ridiculous

Ridiculous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:43:49 +0000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/sep/29/bbc-hd-encryption

I know this is not the place and I apologize but anybody had read about the BBC being strong armed by outside corporations to encrypt their TV stream and fall into a trap that would ban not only open source from uk TV sets and boxes but surrender power to administer anything to a body that have no interest in the public who actually pays for it.

By: iFox

iFox — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:38:34 +0000

Go iiNet! I hope they win and show to the world that all those “anti-piracy” organizations are doing nothing but scamming and bullying to get their way.

By: Roo

Roo — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:27:03 +0000

Common law sux.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:52:42 +0000

great news now hopefully other isps follow this example and dont give up fighting

By: yay

yay — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:36:43 +0000

Great news!

Fight for an open internet! http://tinyurl.com/yapbs6f

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:34:54 +0000

I don’t understand, we forbid drugs because they harm our children why we don’t forbid music?

It turns our children into criminals. So artists should be held accountable too after all they fuel the criminal behavior with their products.

By: How Funny...

How Funny... — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:30:06 +0000

iiNet FTW!!!

Had a look at PPAU site & 1000 members already…

Great to see :0)

By: Ghostofchris

Ghostofchris — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:54:44 +0000

iiNet will win. I wonder if AFACT is dumb enough to give Telstra a poke.

By: Dissenter

Dissenter — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:37:01 +0000

http://pirateparty.org.au I’ve be voting for these guys too.

By: John Woods

John Woods — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:32:25 +0000

ROTFL these “anti piracy” groups are a bunch of wingnuts! LOL

RT
http://www.total-privacy.net.tc

By: Gordon

Gordon — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:24:19 +0000

@17 Joe Bloggs:
That would be the biggest problem with all of this crap that most people seem to be missing. Where is the law in all of these lawsuits? Shouldn’t the law be involved /prior/ to the _law_suit?

By: Joe Bloggs

Joe Bloggs — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:16:43 +0000

If someone steals your property, you go to the police. If they investigate and find you to be correct, they then charge the thief and then it goes to court where penalties and compensation are arranged. Why then can the alleged victim (AFACT) demand without evidence the return of something from an individual (ISP) who has only a business relationship with the alledged thief (proof not established yet), and be sued if they don’t comply?

Is AFACT claiming to be the police? Isn’t that impersonating an officer of the law, which is an offence?

By: dude

dude — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:14:58 +0000

Good job iinet! Dont give up!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:00:37 +0000

A case like this somehow seems just as illogical as if one would sue the post for transporting counterfeit Rolex watches.

In any case if an ISP can be held responsible for transporting copyright infringing data, than it would make sense to sue an ISP for delivering spam for example, i.e. anything illegal.

By: Oz

Oz — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:54:11 +0000

http://pirateparty.org.au

Just dropping this here for all the other Australians

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:22:11 +0000

Aussie here.

Now drop the rest of the stupid claims and drop the case already, and get the hell out of our country. [yeah, channel 7 can get out too tbh]

By: Praveen

Praveen — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:00:15 +0000

Nice post and theme.
-http://praveenbattula.blogspot.com

By: Where is Stasha

Where is Stasha — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:45:45 +0000

Off Topic but just wondering if there will ever be another episode of TorrentFreak TV

Its been a long time and is missed

By: he he he

he he he — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:58:34 +0000

http://www.ipredator.se/

works fine from Australia. Recommended.

By: Yo Do Yo

Yo Do Yo — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:55:30 +0000

Here’s where my votes going;

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/aussie-pirate-party-plans-election-onslaught-20090930-gbvd.html

By: Comeoncomcast

Comeoncomcast — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:42:37 +0000

lol Seems AFART are sweating :P

Go iiNet!! and BoB lol > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjQWZZ_6fYA

AFART have got nothing, and they are running out of time to prove false theories

Nothing but metadata

Viva la Pirat Byran <3 God bless iiNet and God Speed

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:41:59 +0000

They make hard claims and later drop them, this is to abuse the justice system so that they get more “support” from the court on different issues, like raiding or possibly disconnecting/preventive actions.

Mafia tactics that costs the accused money and time.

By: Sick of this

Sick of this — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:27:15 +0000

No they won’t, it’ll be just as ridiculous as the PB case, no doubt they will pay off the judge.

you want a just solution?
http://www.ipredator.se/

By: lach

lach — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:20:34 +0000

iinet will win..

By: chris

chris — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:20:04 +0000

As an iiNet user it’s good to see an isp sticking up for their customers, I wish them good luck !

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:59:46 +0000

As long as they dont get a version of the currupt, fuckwit, on the take, sly, double eyed shify son of a bitch judge Thomas Norström…

Justice may have a chance to prevail and AFACT given the finger while iiNET cleared of all (dumb) accusations.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:57:53 +0000

“The allegation, know as “conversion”, is that…” should that be “known” ? =)