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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1189847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extortion is the American way...this country was built on extortion and money laundering...
...if it&#039;ll shut &#039;um up then give &#039;um ALL the money they want!.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extortion is the American way&#8230;this country was built on extortion and money laundering&#8230;<br />
&#8230;if it&#8217;ll shut &#8216;um up then give &#8216;um ALL the money they want!&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1164875</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I think copywrong can&#039;t get more absurd, it finds a way to get crazier.

I don&#039;t understand how they have the legal grounds to even try this shit. These are user created, and not their IP. Nothing was even pirated here.
 Whats next, trying to sue somebody who tells you what that guy in a 
movie said, because &quot;we own those words, they were in our movie? Fuck 
this shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I think copywrong can&#8217;t get more absurd, it finds a way to get crazier.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how they have the legal grounds to even try this shit. These are user created, and not their IP. Nothing was even pirated here.<br />
 Whats next, trying to sue somebody who tells you what that guy in a<br />
movie said, because &#8220;we own those words, they were in our movie? Fuck<br />
this shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles - World Tech News</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles - World Tech News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Q.J.</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Q.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 04:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trying to stop information sharing on the Internet with a bunch of lawyers wielding lawsuits, is like trying to stop an avalanche with a line of people wielding shovels. It&#039;s stupid. They may get a shovelful or two (shovelfuls are individual information sharers; caught against all odds), but the avalanche (that&#039;s the information in free motion) will move on, and grind them to pieces (the industry, mangled wretch that it&#039;s doomed by it&#039;s own foolishness to become).

When an avalanche is coming towards you, you move to the side. What you don&#039;t do is trying to fight it. There are no shovels big enough, and if there were, they would be impossible to wield without doing catastrophic harm to your surroundings (that&#039;s our civilization, the poor thing).

Here&#039;s what you do, if you want to have some control of an avalanche: You build channels and dikes that don&#039;t try to stop it, but which divert the avalanche in the direction you want it. There are limits to how much it can be diverted before it overflows the channels and breaks the tikes, though.



Now that I&#039;ve ground that analogy completely too pieces, I&#039;ll move on:


It&#039;s the same thing with information: Make a business out of getting it where people want it. Help people enjoy your products, rather than try to prevent them. Make the chaos of the information easier to navigate, access, and use. If you can afford all those lawyers, odds are that you can afford a service that can provide competitive quality to what the file sharing community offers.

So far, I haven&#039;t seen an industry site that can hold a candle to what&#039;s offered in the file sharing community. Good torrenting sites give a service with a minimum of easily navigated clicks, no chaos of scripts and cookies (try getting anywhere with a script blocker; you&#039;ll spend an hour figuring out what exceptions are needed), no getting stopped mid-process because your IP address is wrong, which results in a product of high quality and no lag, to be enjoyed at your convenience.

This is provided by non-commercial sites, run by volunteers, while the industry can&#039;t bring themselves to offer any distribution service of any quality. Their focus is getting the money, not on providing a product or service. They&#039;ve gone to extremes like selling &quot;products&quot; that won&#039;t play on the customer&#039;s equipment. There&#039;s a word for that. It&#039;s &quot;fraud&quot;. Interestingly, this was before file sharing &quot;took off&quot;. It was the breaking point for me, when it comes to respecting their rights, and by the growth of file sharing since, I suspect for many others. If they want a one way street, fine. We&#039;ll see which way the flow will go, won&#039;t we?

The fact that they can&#039;t connect the dots between {providing something} --&gt; {getting payed}, demonstrates either phenomenal arrogance, or phenomenal incompetence. Or both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to stop information sharing on the Internet with a bunch of lawyers wielding lawsuits, is like trying to stop an avalanche with a line of people wielding shovels. It&#8217;s stupid. They may get a shovelful or two (shovelfuls are individual information sharers; caught against all odds), but the avalanche (that&#8217;s the information in free motion) will move on, and grind them to pieces (the industry, mangled wretch that it&#8217;s doomed by it&#8217;s own foolishness to become).</p>
<p>When an avalanche is coming towards you, you move to the side. What you don&#8217;t do is trying to fight it. There are no shovels big enough, and if there were, they would be impossible to wield without doing catastrophic harm to your surroundings (that&#8217;s our civilization, the poor thing).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what you do, if you want to have some control of an avalanche: You build channels and dikes that don&#8217;t try to stop it, but which divert the avalanche in the direction you want it. There are limits to how much it can be diverted before it overflows the channels and breaks the tikes, though.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve ground that analogy completely too pieces, I&#8217;ll move on:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing with information: Make a business out of getting it where people want it. Help people enjoy your products, rather than try to prevent them. Make the chaos of the information easier to navigate, access, and use. If you can afford all those lawyers, odds are that you can afford a service that can provide competitive quality to what the file sharing community offers.</p>
<p>So far, I haven&#8217;t seen an industry site that can hold a candle to what&#8217;s offered in the file sharing community. Good torrenting sites give a service with a minimum of easily navigated clicks, no chaos of scripts and cookies (try getting anywhere with a script blocker; you&#8217;ll spend an hour figuring out what exceptions are needed), no getting stopped mid-process because your IP address is wrong, which results in a product of high quality and no lag, to be enjoyed at your convenience.</p>
<p>This is provided by non-commercial sites, run by volunteers, while the industry can&#8217;t bring themselves to offer any distribution service of any quality. Their focus is getting the money, not on providing a product or service. They&#8217;ve gone to extremes like selling &#8220;products&#8221; that won&#8217;t play on the customer&#8217;s equipment. There&#8217;s a word for that. It&#8217;s &#8220;fraud&#8221;. Interestingly, this was before file sharing &#8220;took off&#8221;. It was the breaking point for me, when it comes to respecting their rights, and by the growth of file sharing since, I suspect for many others. If they want a one way street, fine. We&#8217;ll see which way the flow will go, won&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>The fact that they can&#8217;t connect the dots between {providing something} &#8211;&gt; {getting payed}, demonstrates either phenomenal arrogance, or phenomenal incompetence. Or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody_Else</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Somebody_Else]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really should not use the word &quot;Intelligent&quot; when referring to BREIN. 
Might I suggest a few replacement words?
Idiotic
Indolent
Irritating
Insufferable
Irrational
Irrelevant (So many people use this word, the excuse that it&#039;s not a word is pretty weak.)
Insiped
Ignorant
Insane
Illiterate
Invalid
and Irksome

Feel free to add more to the list. :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should not use the word &#8220;Intelligent&#8221; when referring to BREIN.<br />
Might I suggest a few replacement words?<br />
Idiotic<br />
Indolent<br />
Irritating<br />
Insufferable<br />
Irrational<br />
Irrelevant (So many people use this word, the excuse that it&#8217;s not a word is pretty weak.)<br />
Insiped<br />
Ignorant<br />
Insane<br />
Illiterate<br />
Invalid<br />
and Irksome</p>
<p>Feel free to add more to the list. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles &#124;</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Merl</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this is how it looks and where it heads. If an official gives an interview and makes statement, he may demand removal of any statement, that he doesn&#039;t like as it violates his copyright. Censorship in action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is how it looks and where it heads. If an official gives an interview and makes statement, he may demand removal of any statement, that he doesn&#8217;t like as it violates his copyright. Censorship in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles &#124; We R Pirates</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publisher Promotes Homeland Book Via ‘Pirate’ Subtitles &#124; We R Pirates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] copyright holders are not happy with these pirate subtitle releases and prefer to shut these sites down. But where others see a threat, the Polish book publisher Wydawnictwo Otwarte (Open Publishing) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bovski</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bovski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well that would depend on if you wanted them in English or French]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that would depend on if you wanted them in English or French</p>
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		<title>By: redhatGizmo</title>
		<link>/anti-piracy-group-targets-subtitle-providers-131127/#comment-1161519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redhatGizmo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is insane threatening for hosting fan-created subtitles ?. damn it hollywood you should thankful for their hard-work instead of robbing them of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is insane threatening for hosting fan-created subtitles ?. damn it hollywood you should thankful for their hard-work instead of robbing them of.</p>
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