you are some what right and i agree with a lot of what you are saying but there is some key issues that i think you have not quite grasped in the way these politicians deals with the civilian population today.

i once asked a politician why he voted for something that the public was obviously in objection too. he told me that he was elected by the ppl for his ideals so since they voted him into office he would do as he sees fit… thats why it is so important to really understand the person that is running for that office. now the problem is today all the politicians have this same mind set and their opinion gets weighed on whom pays (donates)the most $$$ to his campaign… so now if you are voter and are not padding his pocket who are you to ask of him anything? these corps are already padding their pockets for this and that you think they will bite the hand that feeds them?

there is no hope for man man will ultimately be in a world civil war for their freedom. they are making laws against the common man to succeed in life so that they will remain as slaves with no hope… you take a way hope and you get ppl angry!!!

this repression has already been in place for years with the 3rd world countries being the hardest hit… the Europeans and then Americans… these rich dont care about their poor or whom they cause to be poor because of their gain. they give out merely scraps to make themselves look good in the publics eyes.
there is a lot happening in this world not so good because of the greed of man. these are reasons why the RIAA will remain on top until they are bankrupt.

A. it does not hurt anyone to share movies and music ( and others).
B. even if you buy a nice copy of any software,or anyone wants a copy for there own needs except to make profit your safe. so fear and intimidation from these hi profile company’s like Sony, w.b.,E.A ARTS, etc.
are bull shit because the law was not really over look by the people behind close doors which need to be over turn. also what the gov, establishment,artist,record labels , and the movie industry fear losing there profits . absolute bull shit because if your my friend and wanna go to his crib, copy any data (movie, music, etc) does not breaking any laws so your not doing anything wrong. any of us in here can go out buy or copy to copy (share) is not wrong anyone may disagree but if you do your lying to yourself….

either way they can not stop us on or offline.

wont stop period .

if more laws being pass sponsors by lobbyist on closed door they will have a big prob with the people and by the people. if everyone write to political dogs , protest and demand to follow the people what they want to the core they have no other way to leave it alone because it will hurt political dogs .not only that it will hurt every one. we are the masters and they are our servant not the other way around.
i may respect some copyright laws only the ones that you have to ask permission to distribute that’s it

its very complex.

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The problem is that these folks shouldn’t be able to meddle with your internet, or anything, in the first place.

Not to mention they’re renowned world-wide for targeting people at random.

*32* is on the ball, read that…

Can you honestly tell me that you go buy a CD (read: 5 cent piece of plastic with the same data on it that has been copied\sold over and over) and feel like you HAVEN’T been totally ripped off? Pfft… yeah.

The prices in NZ are around $30 or more for a newish release, now that is theft for you. How much actually goes to the artist that you “support by buying” their CD, F*UCK ALL? I THINK SO… you are lining the pockets of greedy assholes that don’t care about music, CD’s or people.

I for one have not brought a CD in at least 10 years and would not have, even if it was not available via the net!

So RIANZ can piss off if they think they can tell me whats fair and reasonable.

Hugs and kisses,
NZ

I hope these will force the adoption of highly anonymous protocols that will put the final nail in the RIAA/ IPFI coffin!

what can i say… if i get a warning, i’ll stop buying music (around 150€ on my budget a month) and i’ll rent a 100mbit seed box in a foreign country instead, so i’ll end up downloading far more without buying anything. I’ll also start to get dvd isos, which i can’t really do with my actual connexion, since seeding won’t be a problem anymore.

Conclusion : epic win for the industry

I smell BS… why do you use BT for this – the selection is limited (not all scene content is upped and sometime nfos don’t get upped).

Why don’t you obtain your .nfo’s from vcdquality, nfohump or other sites that specialise in dir names & host nfos? The selection is far wider, always there and easier to obtain…

Knock yourself out. No need to rely on torrents any longer to get your NFO fix :D

…And if you ever wanted to create your own NFOs using the scene’s style with whatever content and frame you want, download a picture of some kind of frame and run it through this: http://www.glassgiant.com/ascii/
Then fill in the text accordingly.

Have fun :)

I think that in the UK Davenport Lyons don’t send letters out any more coz of all the bad press it got and the companies didn’t want to be associated with it.

On a serious note, this is quite foolish. The people of New Zealand need to unite (similar to the rantings of 41 and 42), and tell their government that they oppose this. The RIAA and other organizations have power if the people do not rise to oppose them.

While I say this you need to bear in mind that we are still rooted in reality. An armed uprising is a rather extreme expectation as a response, and should be avoided at all costs. The speculations that this might even be a possibility damages both our image and credibility as a group.

May I remind you of other groups who bore this mantra? The KKK, the Red Faction, and various other supremacy groups over the course of history.

We do not want to allow them to compare us with insane racists. Our movement must survive, and our ideas must be heard. I enjoy the idea that 19 stated, though I don’t see it happening.

The music industry will not change as long as there is a scapegoat to blame their failure upon. We have proven to our satisfaction (through various studies and expert reports) that pirating does not directly correspond to a drop in sales. These studies are parried by (factually proven incorrect) reports commissioned by the RIAA.

The real goal for each and every person out there should be to talk to their local government, provide the facts as they stand, and tell their government that being bullied by a private interest is not acceptable.

We have more than enough information to prove that we are right. If anything, the trial of The Pirate Bay highlights this in exquisite details. Any threats, direct or otherwise, only serve to hamper our cause.

I believe you wanted to put @19 instead of @18.

I can agree with 18, I download what I can’t rip so I don’t have to pay for it again and I rip CDs myself in FLAC. I don’t buy new CDs either but that’s due to used being cheaper. I can rip it once then carry around a small MP3 player with whole discographies instead of dozens of CDs and a bluky CD player, good since I can plug it into my car stereo and not have to change CDs while driving. I do buy a lot of posters and shirts and other merchandise, I’m guessing you do the same thing.

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He has one daughter who was born in 1981 (age 27), she studied 4 years at U*WE in England, her residence is in France – Paris

His wi*fe from Le*banon

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I wonder what he’ll think when his IP address shows up in the list?

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For a 16 year old you’re remarkably transparent. Imagine if you will a 10 year old kid saying “I’m smart” – no difference.

ROFL??? are you suggesting I spend money on crap instead?? This will only encourage the @ssholes to produce more crap.

I’m not causing the problem, it’s the greedy b@stards in the music industry… name one singer which ISN’t trying become a billionaire.. The music industry is fed by greed and they THINK they are missing out on sales when it comes to piracy. That’s what all this is about… money for a diamond toilet seat cover and a means to feed crack habbit.

So if they tried that on me I will say that it was for purposes of review and it wasn’t even me who downloaded it. Also I could say that I did not download anything but I do have a printer attached to my network and “I read an article about a printer, well more than a few printers that where confusing the I.P loggers and I think it might be my printer.”. And then I could say “I need this for school and special medical reasons”. I could also argue that I only downloaded the info files. And I could say that for all I know TPB inserted my I.P address in the swarm to trick your ip loggers and it worked.

I could also say I have a whole household of witnesses. And I could say yes I was downloading that but I only downloaded 51% of it and so every second 1 or 0 was missing and theirfore it looks nothing like what you have the copyright for and so I did not breach your copyright. Infact yes for all of those 10,000 songs I only downloaded 50% of them. And you can’t prove me wrong :P

And I could say “yer well I would of thought of buying your music only your price fixing has made it to expensive and I will only buy DRM free (copy all I want legally) full F.L.A.C or better quality LOSLESS music. And their is no compromising on sounds I *aparently* can’t here.”

Anyways who really losses out. If this becomes law then I will join the first “angry youth mob” created to fight this. I will trash the riaa headquarters if I have to.

I loves my FLAC quality music. Me loves WinAmp and hates Itunes.

They can come for me because I run Peer Guardian 2 which although it doesn’t offer me immunity it drastically reduces my chances of getting caught. And I have smarts and will not go to some really dodgy site. Also I know my stuff (about computers and economics) and will not go down without a fight. I will refuse to do something because I do not like being told what to do cause I am very defiant. I have ADHD and ODD and spare time. They can come for me because I am ready. They fail. They can fail some more.

Infact I admit it. Right now I am breaching there copyrights. I am thinking of a song in my head that I do not own a cd for. I am singing the song (very, very, very badly). I break your copyright OHNOES *GASP* :o. OMG sue me take $1million dollars.

I spit in RIAAs face. The RIAA can leave my country and go to the moon where they can make all the laws they want to.

If they take my internet of :o (yes :o) then I will go to the ombudsman and tell them that I want to see a detailed breakdown of all money retrieved by the RIAA as compensation for piracy as to where and what was being pirated. Because theirs a good chance that at least. $0.0000000000000000000000001 of that was of “lost sales” (according to riaa “download=lost sale”) for our local artists. And I want to see proof that the local artist got their share of that. And if they did not or even missed out on anything then I want the RIAA barred from our country, operating in our country and speaking to our country. Because they are very corrupt and have repetably been found guilty of stuff like price fixing. Anyhow I would say I demmand the commerce commision regulate all RIAA opperations in new zealand.

Either way, if you don’t break the law, you have nothing to worry about, since you can just file a counter notice.

What’s the point in downlaoding crap?

HUH?! WHY IS THAT??!! TELL ME NOW?!?!?!

ROFL go get hammered from behind by a heavyset negro.

The music business slit it’s own throat with all the crap they turn out every year.

Watch American idol auditions, that’s what buying music is like. 200,000 contestants, 95% crap.

Never head of him… until now that there’s a chance of screwing people over and making some money?

Stick your over priced, low quality, crappy music and laws up ya mum.

Lots of love,
NZ

I agree that legitimate IPs are occasionally included in the blocklists … and that’s unfortunate and can’t be helped (just like the occasional false virus detections).

However, it’s not really a matter of trust regarding PG2 … more a measure of you making use of a tool that can provide you with considerable ‘protection’.

I have always been able to complete every torrent download even though I use PG2. On the other hand, my cousin who wasn’t using PG2 at the time got a warning email from his ISP about sharing some material. His ISP warned him that they would turn over his personal identity and address if they were served a court order.

So really, its up to the individual to decide PG2 usefullness. And yes, occasionally a ‘nasty’ IP address will not yet have been added to the blocklist and so there is a slight chance you could be ‘spotted’. Just as you stand a chane of becoming infected by a brand new virus that has not yet have been added to the virus definition files … But would you run your system without an antivirus program?

Just a suggestion :)!

The blocklists used by this program are constantly updated to include the likes of the RIAA and BSA and … and … to the tune of about 1,016,000,000 (ya, that’s correct) IP addresses. In a nutshell anyone attempting to connect to your system having one of these blocked IP addresses can’t make that connection, and subsequently can’t retrieve anything you are sharing.

This is a perfectly reasonable step to take. If you don’t want to be disconnected the DON’T DOWNLOAD music illegally and go and purchase and support the artist and hardworking executives who make dreams happen.

That is a load of crap. You only download what you own? You don’t know how to rip a CD? Use EAC..it’s free too.

Anyways…I download tons from private trackers. I own some of it..about 2%. I’m not bragging but it’s the truth. I would say most people that are on private trackers download way more than they own.

Anyways….the dude that said mp3s should be free and have adds on the site…i agree. Or how about offer an album for free in 128k? If you wanted a V0 rip, you would pay $.15 a track or $.25 for FLAC. Charging $.99 a track for a crappy rip is criminal.

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I was wondering that same thing, the recording industry guys don’t just copy TPB. It makes no sense if they claim TPB makes millions, that would cover server, bandwidth, and other costs hundereds of times over making more then enough profit to keep the fuel tanks on their Ferraris and Hummers full.