Google: Ricardo Semler for more info on this.

The bbc creates extreme views either you love it or you hate it and it’s hard to alter someone’s perception of it.

off the top of my head i love the bbc becos of the following

Local news
which ITN no longer do
Lack of adverts (i don’t feel invaded whilst relaxing)

World service
helping people world wide get a fair and balanced view of the news.

Programming for all
every taste and minority is catered for – i personally loathe radio one and never listen to half the radio stations, rarely watch bbc3 or 4 and think eastenders is utter tripe. then i look at the “range of programming on ITV and channels 4 & 5. The BBC is about yearning to be something greater, helping forge bonds of community and connection between us. Yes the licence fee grows and grows, but their quality and the value for money cannot be discounted. Their output is HUGE over the 4 channels and god knows how many radio stations, websites etc.

Creative Risks & New Talent.
With no advertisers to obey or demographics to hunt, the bbc allows riskier programs to be made and highbrow programs to be aired. They may not be to everyone’s taste, but its a good thing that they happen.

The BBC has shed loads of problems and is a huge beast just like the NHS but like the health service its a common good paid for by all which benefits everyone in a myriad of ways.

I don’t WANT tv to be filled with constant big brother and ross kemp’s gang bullshit or whatever. I had sky and i like it, but 80% of their air time is pure dross.
Also with sky you don’t “get what you pay for” you pay fora package not for each seperate channel, which was the main reason I stopped getting it. I didn’t WANT sky 2 or sky 3, but I was and I was paying for them. I didn’t want half the channels I receieved.

As i say you either believe in the bbc or you don’t. I think it shows a way of monetising “free” in a way which doesn’t involve rolling banner ads on all tv shows which is the place we’ll be left in at this rate.

Who cares if a few Hollywood studios and music companies go bust?

Hopefully that will stop the brain dead, commercialised entertainment that prevails at the moment.

Indie music and films would become the norm. People would be mentally challenged instead of lulled into compacency.

Even succesful and talented musicians / actors would lead reasonably normal lives instead of living in disgusting oppulence (which kills them in many cases, and does not make them happy anyway.)

Less dumbed-down, propagandistic films would be GOOD for the world.

Who cares if a few Hollywood studios and music companies go bust?

Hopefully that will stop the brain dead, commercialised entertainment that prevails at the moment.

Indie music and films would become the norm. People would be mentally challenged instead of lulled into compacency.

Even succesful and talented musicians / actors would lead reasonably normal lives instead of living in disgusting oppulence (which kills them in many cases, and does not make them happy anyway.)

Less dumbed-down, propagandistic films would be GOOD for the world.

They won’t know who is a proxy (mere conduit) and who is the source of content and users won’t know the content, true source and final destination of the packets they are routing.

They’re giving us no choice.

I will buy when you make it available for sane prices. If, in worst case, the world changes into a Big Brother thing I’ll just stop consuming media related stuff. Simple as that. You don’t buy what you don’t know.

Anti Piracy Laws and Lawsuits Fail to Change Social Norms

I hope they will fail forever!
Only a very small minorty of the people of the world benefits from those laws and lawsuits.

Hm. Really? Interesting. Why would they do that?

Anyway, on most cds they do license the work for personal use only, so I was referring to that.

So all you pro-Studio idiots please remember it cost us to ‘share’ but at least the money is well spent.

And you’re wrong, in current copyright, even personal use is prohibited (in most countries anyway). I find -NC to be the best option for licensing, but some would want as much restriction as possible.

Study: Piracy Impacted By Price, Punishment and Morality
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i7d72e67f57c9816984798c2319cdba47
A new study finds three things have a negative impact on the likelihood a person will obtain a song illegally: willingness to pay; perceived likeliness of facing a lawsuit; and morality. Marc F. Bellemere of Duke University and Andrew M. Holmberg of the Department of Justice presented their findings in a working paper titled “The Determinants of Music Piracy in a Sample of College Students.” (44-page PDF)
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1481272

I think everybody should make a model of ttheir heads and send a paper version to congress to show them the real faces of pirates LoL

I agree people online have no power and can’t change nothing in the real world. Their actions online means nothing and that just prove that some people are idiots for going after the online community LoL

Also….”SAW VI – IMAGINE LEGAL CAM”

I mean the big corporates still are living in the stone age regarding internet, globalising and modern times coupled with copyright.

They just don’t get it. Instead of inventing new model business for the modern internet age, they still waste hundreds thousands of hours of manpower to go after copyright infringers.

Failcorporate is fail!

I get you, poster.

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The industry should NOT give in to the pressure from piracy. If they were to somehow try to adapt to it (they are the ones being stolen from.. why should they change?), it would send a clear message that the internet can change social order however it sees fit. This is nothing more than a power trip. People who don’t spend enough time in the real world and are thus under the impression that they can influence the real world with their online activities. One might almost call it delusions of grandeur. Pirates romanticize theft because at the end of the day, they can’t accept the fact that, in the grand scheme of things, their actions will amount to nothing more than a little criminal activity. They want to think that they can change the whole world.

The solution is easy. Reform laws to make it clear that torrents or any other system that enables downloading of copyrighted material is illegal (this is already the case in most countries.) Give people who run illegal torrent sites jail time.

This is a very bad idea. In fact, this is what the modern copyright is. Allowing people to use something only for “personal” use is destroying community. Things like music, for example, are social in nature, they cannot be limited to “personal use”.

At one time in the history of man those who ruled, ruled by force. Now the masses are ruled by money. Money has bought all the ridiculous copyright and and anti-piracy laws not the will of the people.

Copyright law is about protecting corporate greed not individuals. the bulk of the money made by copyright holders is not by individuals but by corporations that bought the rights that last far longer than the lives of the creators.

A major worldwide revolution is at hand. The economy in the Us is crashing at an alarming rate. The masses must stand up for what we want. In this forum it means faster internet not throttled by business we should have 10 times the current speed we have. We should have cheep internet there is no cost basis for what an isp charges, they charge what they can get away with. And finally we should be able to download freely anything. TV can into our homes free for years and now the computer and internet has expanded out choices.

This paid for advantage would last 30 minutes at most until someone finished downloading it and re-up’d it elsewhere.

The only way the entertainment industry can make money off this is to team up with ISPs.

Double the fees we pay each month (at least) and then redistribute that money back to the studios based on download charts from from tpb demonoid iso etc. Maybe then studios could concentrate on making good shows rather than pure dross to fill hours of TV (bb)

The point of access is the only place they can feasibly charge and i for one would be happy to pay twice my isp fee for unlimited downloads.

Alt idea – in the uk we all pay a tv licence fee to pay for the BBC which is well worth it, how about a similar internet one off payment each year of around £100 – $200 per house if you’re online.

Maybe if studios stoppped paying actors insane amounts of cash to do jobs they always say are “the best in the world and would do for free” it would cut costs. Ever see a nurse with a nicer house than a half known tv actor?

Musicians btw get f-all. They can tour if they want cash and put in a decent days work rather than working 1 month a year writing and recording.

oh as for the idea mentioned about a pennance of having to work in a tv or music studio if you’re caught… ppl would be lining up outside the police station with screen shots of their torrents, all going “pls pls let me into the biz”

Bah. Point of access payment. Nothing else is feasible.

There is no consensus about the legal garbage the corporations of parasites dropped on our societies.

The consensus is that these toxic corporations shall be destroyed and therefore this will hapen.

“If I download something illegaly, it means I will NOT BUY IT.”

Reasoned Mind,

You wrote this already.

You are no paid for bringing back your old posts from others stories.

You have to post something new and credible.

Your supervisor.

And the days are fast disappearing when not many people are good enough with computers to use torrents. The children and teens of today know computers as well (or better) as some computer techs.

So they (studios) have two options:

1: Find a way to disconnect the internet. (not likely)

2: Find a way to monetize free.

They will have to find a truly original, innovative way to to this. Excessive advertising will turn people off, and any sort of fee will send many people right back to isoHunt.

Step 1: Eliminate yesterday’s expenses.

“Old media” promotion: Trailers on TV can go. Enough free exposure can be gained on P2P networks, news sites, and elsewhere, that there is no need to spend much promoting a movie, album, or game.

Physical media: Most movie theaters use tapes, as do many radio stations. CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray discs are sold and rented everywhere we look. It’s expensive and wasteful. Going digital cuts costs, helps the environment, and competes better with digital filesharing.

2: Make money in a free world.

-NC: The Creative Commons Noncommercal Attribution Sharealike License, and it’s Noderivative counterpart, are often overlooked licenses that allow for sharing, while not allowing commercial use without rights, which can be sold.

Personal use only: My next point will explain the uses for this, but basically this would prohibit use of a work by anyone but a private person without permission, not even an origination.

Release groups: Pay to play.
What if people like axxo and the well-known release groups were bidding on rights to release the next feature film first? This would create an amazing new market, where ad-funded torrent sites and release groups would pay for exclusives, and compete for the best quality, timely releases, and fast downloads. This would cut costs for the studios, since all they would have to do to distribute something via their website would be to link to the “Starred” (and well paying, I might add) torrenter.

Movie theaters, radio stations, and such would pay for their rights as always, but maybe with lower prices.

The above is only one set of hundreds of ways the entertainment industry to beat illegal filesharing and survive.

“Instead of cutting people off the internet, I’d much rather they sent the worst offenders into studios for a week to do community service to understand exactly what goes into the process of making music.

I don’t think for a second they’d consider not paying something towards the creation of that content.”

And yes *Thanks to #14 for the lesson..

On-Topic,
I find that its not real popular to go around telling everybody you meet that you are a P2P supporter, or a Pirate, or that you are into file sharing…
How do I find this?, because I do it and allot of the first hand reactions I get are not “favorable”
It’s kinda funny because it is even possible to get into a debate with another file sharer what the proper term would be,( as I have indeed done just today in-fact) Some do not like to be called Pirates, they prefer File Sharer and are quite ridged on this point….
Whatever you call it, we are doing the very same things, Torrenting files and Seeding them back.. Not all of those files are illegal, but I would dare say that the percentage of them that are is much larger than aren’t…

But to cut all of this short, the statement regarding “Social Pressure” having anything to do with whether or not we “File-Share” really has nothing to do with it.. Ppl will download in the privacy of their own homes with no one around at all to pressure them one way or the other, and if it isnt “socially acceptable” then they simply wont talk about it …

On a side note..
Although I can see the fun in “playing with the trolls” im thinking you people have bitten off more than you can chew with “Torrentzbeak” after reading through her replies I would venture to say that arguing is something she really enjoys and none of you that begin will ever have the last word..LoL..

But please continue, it is entertaining…

it said i would be sued and our internet service would be removed if i did not quit torrenting.

im wondering if i should be worried.

@The other morons making fun of me
Can you blame someone from trying to use a quote on a blog comment for the first time? I’m sure you made the same mistake before, or didn’t even know the answer before someone else said it.

There they said it CRIMINALS

There is :)

see ?

I, for one, am not going back to those days. No one with some sort of ensignia on their arm will ever tell me what to do again. They didn’t then and they won’t now.

I will never stop downloading.

The people will never stop downloading.

We, the people, will never stop downloading.

And YOU will never stop us–ever again.

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