Firstly, you may think it is important for me to conduct myself, but I disagree. I do not seek to be the politician. I have a better impression of Rosa Parks than JFK. I have a better impression of John Brown than Stephen Douglas. There is also the impression of the French Revolution in my mind. These things, the French Revolution, the Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement – where is the compromise, the empathy for the tyrants, the slave-holders, the racists? There is no sympathy. Compromise is not the way to do things. There is no compromise with tyrants, with racists, with slave-holders. The only way to deal with them is through the force of the popular will.

Roze

“You are just a single person. A single person is unimportant. Why is there a need to be diplomatic about a single person? Besides, I am a single person as well.”

You can argue that a greater number of the population is relatively unimportant. But there are indeed single persons with substantial influence.

“Perhaps large groups need to be diplomatic towards large groups, but not individual-to-individual. As such, there is no need for diplomacy; only insults.”

Please explain yourself further; I’m not sure I follow your thought. How can a dispute have any hope of compromise, with neither of the parts having sympathy for the other?
I think you need to revise your logic to at least have some elements of empathy.

START. BACKING. UP. YOUR. OPINIONS.

Roze

You said it for me mate, this makes me so mad. i can’t believe shit like this isn’t on the news… well yeah i can but its a shame :(

f**k the human race. we are a failing species.

“You are an idiot anyways.”

Why are you calling me an idiot? Does being just a little bit diplomatic make no sense to you? I think you have misunderstood my writing.
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“Why should anything get beyond throwing insults?”

What’s your point in asking this seemingly philosophic question? Are you trying to lead us into a dark and confusing line of thought, opposing the relatively pragmatic TorrentFreak comment-section?
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“There is no point talking with idiots; the only good thing that can come out of it is through combating you idiots. No explaining will get through your thick skull, so the best thing is to insult you. Tyrants will always be tyrants. The only way to deal with them is to take them down.”

It sounds like a lot of people are idiots to you, probably including the majority of people in power. If this is the case there is plenty of interest in talking with the idiots. You will most likely want to kill all of those idiots to “deal with them”, but this isn’t something realistically possible.
I don’t believe you completely oppose rationality and humanism. Your reason for supporting this militant attitude is that you see “Piracy” or file sharing as a great new idea, and possibly a way to support socialism. To get anywhere you have to be understanding and put yourself in the, in my opinion, mislead capitalists point of view, as these people make out the majority of the leaders in society.

it doesn’t make any sense.

P.S: i see that you took my advice and aborted that ridiculous website of yours. good job.

Roze

oh my god, this takes the cake for hilariously inept justifications, rofl. absolutely classic.
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Please do explain your capitalistic merit, so we can get beyond the throwing of insults.

you said: “So sad people are gonna read this article and not all the comments… the article is right but the author totally ignore the fact that this amendement is going to be re run and will win this time.”

I guess you completely missed this sentence in the article:

“Not all is lost though, the amendment might pass in January or February 2009, when it will be proposed again.”

if there’s a leech, it’s called great brittain.

so…no luxury items at all? just food and shelter? everyone makes the same amount of money? i’m just trying to pinpoint your idiot opinion, so far it sounds a lot like communism…

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“Considering that my diet is about on par with most starving Ethiopians(or Al Bundy, take your pick), I think a larger demographic of people would likely call you an utter dipshit than accuse me of living too high off the hog.”
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and yet…here you are on an internet connection with time to chat idly on a message board. Starving Ethiopians think YOU make too much money if you can afford an internet connection. As soon as you point your little robin hood finger at some fat cat business man, someone else is pointing their finger at you. immediate fail.

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“And speaking of extortion, charging $10 to $20 for a CD that cost fractions of a penny to manufecture is a textbook case of extortionate pricing.”
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yeah, because the only cost in producing an album is the eventual manufacturing of the CD’s…stop being a moron.

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“You’re the only one here playing semantics. And you’re doing a bad job of it, too.”
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saying piracy is taking something that isn’t yours isn’t playing with semantics, lol, it’s just plain talk. are you using words you don’t know the meaning of?

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“I could download for free the entire media collection that you payed for with wads of your hard earned cash.”
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that’s fine. i supported the creators whose work i admire and want to see more of, you parasitically fed off them and then tried to justify it with laughable reasoning…

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“no copying is not theft by that reason then life itself is theft, as cells copy and divide they do so freely it is the law of nature.”
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oh my god, this takes the cake for hilariously inept justifications, rofl. absolutely classic.

What is piracy? It is mans readjustment of the fact that corporations are changing too much and smart people circumvent there attempts at facist controls of said wealth.

YUP its getting clos to that time to rise up and toss out the facists again. and this time OUTLAW there ability to have ANY RIGHTS.

WE OUTTED HITLER , NOW ITS YOUR TURN.

Enough to afford steady food and a roof over your head, you God damn fool. What do you think “affording to live” means, Evian bottled water and weekly shopping sprees at the Gap?

Anonymous: “before you answer, realize that a large demographic of people likely think YOU make too much money and could live off a lot less”

Considering that my diet is about on par with most starving Ethiopians(or Al Bundy, take your pick), I think a larger demographic of people would likely call you an utter dipshit than accuse me of living too high off the hog.

Anonymous: “god you thieves love to abuse that word: no one is “extorting” you”

Haha.

What gravitas does being called a “thief” possess, coming from a mental cripple to which the concept of theft eludes all comprehension?

And speaking of extortion, charging $10 to $20 for a CD that cost fractions of a penny to manufecture is a textbook case of extortionate pricing. I suggest cracking open a dictionary sometime, or are you still struggling to move up from picturebooks? Judging from your comments, I’d say yes.

Anonymous: “the fact that you think 99 cents a song and 12-15 dollars a CD is too much doesn’t give you ethical license to take something that was made to be sold.”

Oh, please. Save your crocodile tears for somebody more gullible. Filesharing stands on such higher ethical ground than the business practices of the RIAA do, that if the simple act of sharing some copyrighted MP3 offends your sensibilities, then you’d be out burning effigies of RIAA executives on your front lawn, daily.

Anonymous: “you can suck the tit of semantics all you want, the fact is, downloading a copied file is taking something that doesn’t belong to you.”

Give it up, Retarded Wonder. Filesharing isn’t even theft in the eyes of the law.

You’re the only one here playing semantics. And you’re doing a bad job of it, too.

Anonymous: “self-entitled, anarchist nerds.”

I could download for free the entire media collection that you payed for with wads of your hard earned cash.

Now deal with it.

Jealousy is so blasé.

you ask me they NEED to KNOW WE ARE THE MAJORITY

Quit being lame and get more active against actors , and musicians.

THE HELL WITH ALL OF THEM

This idiot really pisses us off, and makes us ashamed.

So, for some of you, don’t make stupid generalisations like “French always think they have to be different” or “the french do what they want and dont care about anyone else”, through the action of one “man”…

Roze

where do you draw the line on what amount of money constitutes a sum whereby employees can “afford to live”? before you answer, realize that a large demographic of people likely think YOU make too much money and could live off a lot less. your robin hood mindset collapses upon itself after tiniest iota of scrutiny is applied.

“…by squeezing the public dry of every last penny through extortionate prices”

god you thieves love to abuse that word: no one is “extorting” you, you overly dramatic little nancy boy. CD’s and movies are luxury items. you don’t need them to live and no one is forcing you to buy them. the fact that you think 99 cents a song and 12-15 dollars a CD is too much doesn’t give you ethical license to take something that was made to be sold.

“Filesharing isn’t theft”

you can suck the tit of semantics all you want, the fact is, downloading a copied file is taking something that doesn’t belong to you. Even if such copying doesn’t always equate to a lost sale, reason dictates that often enough it does, and the burden of that improvable concept should not be on the creators whose work is being illegally distributed and consumed by self-entitled, anarchist nerds.

- “Why? They’re a business like any other. making money is the number one function of a business. what exactly are you suggesting they do? become non-profit? turn a blind eye to the out-of-control theft of their products? What?” -

I think what Chris is trying to express, is his contempt for how our world is becoming ever more capitalistic and socially unequal.
For some people “piracy” or file sharing is a modern way for practicing socialistic way of thought. This is illegal as by the laws of intellectual property.

With digitalization, the Internet and file sharing, The Recording Industry is becoming dispensable and superfluous. That is why the RIAA and the likes are being reluctant in reinventing themselves. They are complacent in their old fashioned ways of making money. They have no other concern than making the most amount of money possible. They make their money on the creative works in music and film, but damage that same creativity by restricting with copyrights. This is definitely not in the artist’s best interest.
With their money they indirectly manipulate the law to their benefit, by lobbying and using lawyers in somewhat immoral ways.

Securing a large enough revenue stream to cover operating costs while maintaining enough profit that your employees can afford to live is the number one function of a business.

Not to accrue an apocalyptic sum of wealth by squeezing the public dry of every last penny through extortionate prices, ripping off the actual content creators for all they’re worth, and using business practices so all around unethical that it makes Enron almost look angelic by comparison.

ergo: “turn blind eye to the out-of-control theft of their products?”

Filesharing isn’t theft, you slobbering little halfwit. Why do you think people always get tried for copyright infringement when a filesharing case goes to court, and not theft?

Because duplicating property is not the same thing as stealing property. Duplication. Say it with me now, Sloth, that is if you can form the syllables.

D U P L I C A T I O N.

Now tell me, do your government appointed Retard-Handlers know you’re using the Internet?

the council made the right call, but that twat overruled them; the presidential system is BROKEN.

we need a new political mechanism to co-ordinate europe if a decision the council has already made can be overruled so easily.

Way to miss my point. Their market is not infinite, their profits do have a limit. How much should people spend on their entertainment. 25% of their money, 50%, even their food money?!

A buisness is foolish if they cannot accurately estimate the maximum their product can sell. My friend’s debt is not their concern but their spending power is. If they can afford to spend $10 a month then they are likely to spend much more than that. Simply put, I believe alot of file-sharers could not possibly afford to buy the ammount of entertainment they consume, not even in the entertainment industry’s wildest dream.

It is only an utterly capitalisitic fool that thinks profits can only grow and grow. Ignore who your clients are and how much they can spend and you will destroy yourself.

LMAO, good one! :D

Don’t assume everyone criticising this is American!

“Why? They’re a business like any other. making money is the number one function of a business. what exactly are you suggesting they do? become non-profit? turn a blind eye to the out-of-control theft of their products? What?”

Theft? Where?

“I’m getting seriously tired of entertainment companys expecting to make more and more money.
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Why? They’re a business like any other. making money is the number one function of a business. what exactly are you suggesting they do? become non-profit? turn a blind eye to the out-of-control theft of their products? What?
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“Personal debt is sky rocketing, some of my friends currently owe two or so years of their entire pay before tax in unsecured debts due to recently graduating. How much more money do they think they can get out of people!”
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The entertainment companies did not put your friends in debt and the only money they “think they can get” is what they’re owed through the VOLUNTARY consumption of their products.

Chris, I don’t mean to sound to harsh, but judging by your post you seem to be something of an idiot.

My condolences.

NO TO EU, FOREVER!

am i making sense?

Pathetic although Im sure it will be challenged if they try to implement a 3 strikes rule.

at least we have a democracy! in the understanding of the most european citizens, the USA are not a constitutional state (more like public arbitrariness) and therefore has much less democracy than any of the staates of the european union.
yes, i’m from europe. to the news: it’s indeed a sad sad decision! fck sarkozy