Comments on: Anti-Piracy Measures Don’t Work, Report Shows

By: Infogringo

Infogringo — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:52:07 +0000

I used to use torrents, and Disney effectively made me stop after I downloaded a movie for my three year old son.

Since then I started to use http//www.grabaid.com , a service that allows you to easily download from the Usenet at 500+KB/sec. It used to be free forever, but now they only give you one free month. I pay $15/ month for one of their larger plans, and do not feel the need to spend $80/ month for all of the channels I would need just for the TV programming, not to mention the ‘illegal’ movies.

Worth a shot, looks like thepiratebay and isohunt will not last forever. ThePirateBay has been tricky lately. (I still use torrents for music)

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By: ilgioa

ilgioa — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:25:30 +0000

Hi everybody,
I took the time of downloading and reading the paper, something that apparently nobody here did.
The article title is misleading because id does not represent what the paper actually says.
The entire page 5 is dedicated to say how well hash-based detection methods work, to conclude that “Blacklisting based on file hashes or other file IDs
can provide a viable way to severely limit the
distribution of copyright-protected content.”
Sorry to wake you up, but Ipoque here is only trying to sell a hash-based detection system. period.

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By: Stolen Rhone

Stolen Rhone — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:07:12 +0000

“First, and most importantly, content providers need to provide other high-quality, well priced and easily accessible online content. New business models are inevitable. In the long run, this will make illegitimate sharing of copyright-protected material through the Internet a lot less interesting.”

Bingo. Somebody is finally getting it.

Adapt. The. Business. Model.

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By: Ellison

Ellison — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:08:01 +0000

Let's say that tomorrow the pirate bay decided to change their model. They decide that they're going to sell cracked digital content (music, software, movies, etc). They aren't going to pay the original artists/creators anything. They're just flat-out making money selling other people's work and becoming millionaires. Further, let's say that Swedish law was okay with this. You're arguing that there is absolutely nothing anyone could do to stop this rip-off because it would somehow violate the pirate bay's "rights" and any pressure to stop this rip-off would "be a the first step for the country to become an authoritarian state."? I call BS. But, according to your argument, this should be perfectly 100% okay as long as Swedish law was okay with this. Obviously, something is wrong if that's true.

By: guenthar

guenthar — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:45:04 +0000

You are getting civil and criminal law mixed up. Pirating (the illegal uploading and downloading of copyrighted material) is part of civil law and the rest of what you are talking about is part of criminal law. What this means is that the government prosecutes criminal law and civil law is comprised of law suits by companies and individuals. For the government to go after pirates would be a violation of their constitution and any case would get shut down by the judge in charge of the case. The only way they could charge pirates would be to pass an amendment making copyright infringment a criminal offense. That would be the first step for the country to become an authoritarian state.

By: Ellison

Ellison — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:58:06 +0000

The phrase was not "act together" but "got their act together". But, thanks for your input. What are you even talking about with "breaking civil law". Do you mean that Sweden should not be pressured to act like a responsible global citizen? You know, I recently read an article about how people in East Africa like the pirates (the pirates stealing ships and demanding ransom). If the people of east Africa got together to vote on the issue, they might agree to let the pirates continue to operate because they bring money into their communities. The fact that a majority of people in some country agree to something doesn't mean it's right. Similarly, what would you say if Sweden allows child porn to be distributed by people operating servers in Sweden? Should that be allowed because the people of Sweden think it's okay? What's going on in Sweden is that a bunch of freeloaders like getting shit for free and want to pressure the government to keep getting shit for free – which is exactly what would happen in east Africa, as well.

Please stop breathing my air, idiot.

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By: meep

meep — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:51:03 +0000

How do you know there has never been child porn on TPB? It could have been removed or there could still be stuff out there labeled as something else. I agree that everything should be done to remove it, but it's next to impossible to get every last bit of it down.

By:

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:32:08 +0000

By act together im guessing your talking about breaking civil law and violating peoples rights.

Please stop breathing my air, idiot.

By: Ellison

Ellison — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:51:36 +0000

The article is mis-titled. What it should say is "these anti-piracy measures don't work". If governments really got their act together (I'm looking at you, Sweden), they could *easily* shut down piracy by going after the sites. It's not like we don't know who runs the pirate bay.

By: mister_playboy

mister_playboy — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:32:01 +0000

Actually, I think it's primarily on Usenet.

By: Barney

Barney — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:16:08 +0000

The day I trust a piracy site to interpret a report for me, and to report on piracy objectively is the day I cut off both my hands and learn to play the piano with my mouth.

Thanks for your "objective" reporting Torrentfreak but no thanks, stick to just blatantly lying about piracy and making tons of money from advertising based on pimping other peoples work like you, TPB and other piracy sites do. Stop trying to justify it.

By: Cleetus

Cleetus — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:57:46 +0000

Well, your momma is though!

By: MusikManiacs

MusikManiacs — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:37:32 +0000

nice post... http://musikmanaics.blogspot.com

By: Pussyliicker

Pussyliicker — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:13:33 +0000

What a pile off wank

By: yoyo

yoyo — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:05:11 +0000

ipoque is providing german lawyers with p2p data…

By: antip2p

antip2p — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:38:19 +0000

It is too easy to catch P2P criminals that’s why they dont go after you.

They are tryin to catch the big guys like me.

By: fr33tard

fr33tard — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:14:52 +0000

"You're one miserably clueless little mongolod, aren't you? "
——————–

"mongolod" is not a word.

as for the rest of your drivel, the pirate bay has a very real obligation to expunge itself of child porn and that obligation is of course, self preservation. the moment such a thing were allowed to run amok, they would be exposing their flank to a whole new demographic of opponents. the fact that the MUSIC INDUSTRY doesn't help fight child porn is not, in fact, "stark contrast" to anything…

i do however agree that the industries use this issue to badmouth p2p and encryption technology. i haven't studied the issue so i don't know if there's any truth to it, but i would guess a lot of CP is traded using the same encryption protocols that the pirates use.

By:

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:01:56 +0000

@r33tard
"are you literally blaming the MUSIC INDUSTRY for not hunting down pedophiles? "

You're one miserably clueless little mongolod, aren't you?

Alright, since you're having some serious comprehension problems, let me try walking you through this nice and easy. The Pirate Bay does everything it possibly can within its power to fight child porn, despite having no real obligation to do so. It goes far above and beyond its call of duty. This is in stark contrast to the MAFIAA, which does absolutely nothing whatsoever within its power to fight child porn, and yet tries to villify The Pirate Bay as an evil worse than Satan and nail brokep to a cross.

Hence, the fucking point.

The irony of you watching you call somebody else an "idiot" is quite amusing.

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By: MyPen Is 404

MyPen Is 404 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:05:29 +0000

It is human nature that they have various reasons as to whether they buy an item or not. Every person has found a way to get something for free or really good bargain. At times, as with music, people will buy it, other times they don't. Maybe they already bought it, maybe they are just checking it out and will buy it later. Who cares why? The point is, that if someone like the music, they will probably tell someone else of the find, and maybe that person will buy also, or instead, depending on the case. That is the new business model the industry will have to come to terms with. In fact, I suspect many people refuse to buy after they download just because of the way that these companies are handling the situation.

By: Roze

Roze — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:57:16 +0000

I guess so.

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:33:47 +0000

Oh? How are you proposing people do that – you know, considering to that if you download supposed child porn to verify it is indeed child porn you are liable to prosecution unless you have safe harbour protection (which only selected agencies dedicated to hunitng child pron do).

freetard is right for once. The RIAA could'nt use this technology to hunt child porn without openi ng themselves up to prosecution.

By: Anon

Anon — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:14:54 +0000

Spot on! Great article TF.

By: Roze

Roze — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:07:14 +0000

However, hunting down pedophiles is the priority of all humans. Are the people in the music industry humans or not?

By: Ralph Thomas

Ralph Thomas — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:55:47 +0000

LOL, they never have worked! LOL

RT
http://www.privacy-center.vze.com

By: fr33tard

fr33tard — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:55:19 +0000

of course that's their priority! they're a MUSIC industry.

you might as well point out that they don't serve pizza.

no f***ing shit.

By: Roze

Roze — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:36:49 +0000

You are imagining something which does not exist, which is "blame." Me1 merely stated the fact that they do not care so much about hunting down pedophiles as they care about getting 99c per song, which is not blame, but a description of the RIAA's priorities.

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By: fr33tard

fr33tard — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:03:57 +0000

"Because to the likes of the RIAA children getting f*cked (and getting their life ruined) is not as important as getting 99c per song"
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LOL!

are you literally blaming the MUSIC INDUSTRY for not hunting down pedophiles?

you should go complain to taco bell while you're at it. word on the street is they only care about cheap mexican food and couldn't give less of a shit about children being abused.

and then maybe after that, you can complain to your bank that they aren't licensed to do tattoos or ask to speak to the manager of your local car dealership because they don't sell exotic pets…

idiot.

By: everybody

everybody — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:35:12 +0000

There is no way BitTorrent could be a good way to transfer illegal things like that when all the IP addresses are public.

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By: lulz

lulz — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:38:34 +0000

Another report says it works, you guys are just pick and choosing info -.-

By: Ghost

Ghost — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:28:32 +0000

I never pretended to be a grammar (sorry about spelling, always been a trouble for me) master or anything. I simply noticed what seemed to be wrong, and since it was within the article, I thought id point it out. Im also aware that I dont type with 100% correct grammar, but then again im not a blogger myself. I find that its faster, and not extremely important to skip the commas and such, as long as everything makes enough sense.

I fully apologize for that, just figured if I was correct it would be best to point it out, to better all of us. Ill keep my mouth shut about those things from now on unless im 100% sure. Sorry again.

By: The_Cheat

The_Cheat — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:23:27 +0000

although this report isn't 100% accurate in its suggestions I applaud them for at least taking a step in the right direction.

By: RoestVrijStaal

RoestVrijStaal — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:10:09 +0000

Well, it's the report with the realisic and smartest conclusions about filesharing I ever read ; )
Just what the text says: gov & antip2p must read the report too

By: x86-64

x86-64 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:09:18 +0000

"Im glad to see someone telling the truth, but like said before, not holding my breath."

Shouldn't it be "I'm glad to see someone telling the truth, but like somebody said before, I'm not holding my breath?

By: www.TorrentSpy.cd

www.TorrentSpy.cd — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:03:45 +0000

Nothing works but P2P will live like always.

Join http://www.TorrentSpy.cd

By: Reverse

Reverse — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:02:25 +0000

I am glad to see TPB actively removing and protecting against Child porn. They also donate to child porn detective agencies and send them IP's of suspected offenders on there site.

There has never been or will be child porn on TPB. 100% clean.

By: whoyougonnacall

whoyougonnacall — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:37:00 +0000

Your correction is wrong (along with your spelling of grammar) as 'lot' is an abstract noun.

By: Me1

Me1 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:20:03 +0000

Because to the likes of the RIAA children getting f*cked (and getting their life ruined) is not as important as getting 99c per song

By: James

James — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:19:15 +0000

"bu..buu buu..but we can't make money from the suffering of children. We're a business so the children can go fuck themselves if they want any of our help"

By: me1

me1 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:18:05 +0000

Its not on TPB, but scum like the above like using differnt usernames to start rumors that they can later (?) bring up in a case

By: Roze

Roze — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:07:30 +0000

It is not picking information, but reporting on a report. I don't know how many independent studies there are of this, but of the couple there are, most say that anti-piracy measures don't work.