TorrentFreak

The place where breaking news, BitTorrent and copyright collide

Anti-Piracy Outfit Forces Scene Group To Apologize

One of the oldest groups at the top of the so-called piracy pyramid has been taken down by the notorious Swedish Anti-Piracy Bureau. Unusually there have been no arrests and no legal action. Instead the group ‘Svenne/Redcross’ has been forced to apologize and spread FUD about the security of other groups.

Regular TorrentFreak readers will be only too aware of so-called ‘Scene’ groups. These ultra-secretive collections of individuals are known for being the first providers of much of the pirate content appearing on file-sharing networks today, and have previously been targeted in many anti-piracy operations, including the high profile Operation Fastlink and Operation Buccaneer.

Svenne-Redcross is a movie release group who have been active for nearly ten years, a long time to remain undetected and uninfiltrated. Their first serious release was a DVDRip (converted to SVCD) of ‘Richard Gere’s Dr T and the Women’ in December 2000. Its last appears to be Swedish movie ‘Johan Falk – GSI ‘ released just over two weeks ago.

But, as they say, all good things come to an end.

Scene release groups use NFOs, which are small text files commonly used to provide information about pirate releases. The NFO’s can also be used as a so-called ‘Scene Notice’, a type of message which can be passed around Scene groups to inform them of important information – even if half the time they are simply used to flame other groups or individuals.

This weekend Svenne released an NFO/Scene notice themselves, but the content was highly unusual, even if it started off with bad, if unremarkable news;

“After ten years on the Scene we’re stepping down and leaving it forever,” the group wrote. “We have been exposed by the Swedish Antipiracy Bureau whom have identified all of our members and sites.”

The Swedish Antipiracy Bureau – Antipiratbyrån (APB) – is home to the infamous Henrik Pontén who has taken many actions against pirates, including a raid earlier this year against a large Swedish topsite.

At the time Pontén said that APB had managed to identify the people running the server and noted that it was now up to the police to investigate. But strangely, even though APB appear to know a lot about Svenne, it seems that the police won’t be getting involved.

“The good thing is that we have had the possibility to make a settlement. Our activity is immediately ceased,” Svenne announced.

Why APB have offered Svenne a deal is unclear, and there is currently little public knowledge of its nature or the terms imposed. However, what is clear is that APB required Svenne to do some public grovelling – it’s hard to imagine that they would make this kind of statement voluntarily, especially since just 2 weeks ago they said how proud they were of their achievements;

“We apologies to all Swedish and foreign movie producers for the damage we have caused,” wrote the group. But they didn’t stop there – APB also required some valuable FUD to be spread, to scare others in The Scene;

“Those of you who are still involved in the Scene – close down. None of you are safe out there,” warns Svenne in their apparent neck-saving statement.

Of course, while this announcement seems designed to spread fear, the threat may not be entirely hollow. Svenne has connections to lots of other groups, so the strong possibility remains that some of those could be compromised too.

Related Posts

Previous Post | Next Post

  • scener

    movie release groups are not scene. inc $d020, clr.w $ffff8240.w, move.w #0 $dff180 etc

  • Lur

    http://scenenotice.org/details.php?id=783 -

    Response.To.Farewell.And.Godbye-SVENNE-REDCROSS

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    One head chopped off… and like a hydra 2 will spring up to take its place.

  • Scene FTW

    This is a bloody outrage! No way that one of the best scene groups was FORCED to apologize. That’s nothing more than utter bullshit

  • Lur

    More or less a p2p group.

  • Redeemer

    RIP

  • ytb

    I hope the remaining scene groups view this as a challenge – RIP Svenne/Redcross hopefully 100 more will take your place

  • Anonymous

    Eh, scene groups are full of elitist nerds anyway. There’s bound to be more that spring up.

  • NoOne

    I would have done the same public apologies, but this doesn’t mean that they would have had any meaning. It makes me think to those videos with hostages saying their orders were wrong, they do regret what they’ve done and that the ransom should be paid.

    For me, this public apology was obtained under pressure and therefore it is worthless.

  • Trelew

    What bothers me is the way that Big Business is allowed to use any underhanded dirty tricks, no questionable tactics question, and the governments let them pass on by. An individual tries half of the stunts done by corporations and there are major repercussions. It’s sad world to realize that Big Business can get away with a lot of questionable and disgusting sh!t

  • The Dude

    What the fuck happened to Sweden, has it turned into Cultural Revolution period China where those found guilty by the elites of the country were forced to publicly grovel to scare the masses into submission?

    FUCK YOU SWEDEN.

    Actually.. FUCK YOU CORRUPT SWEDISH BUREAUCRATS WHO KISS THE ASS OF AMERICA.

    FUCK YOU!

    To the Swedish people: stand up for your dignity and support politicians that don’t pander to the almighty (American) dollar.

    Grovelling.. what next? Walking around Stockholm with a dunce cap with ‘I am a pirate’ and chained to a sandwich board filled with words of profuse apology for sins committed against America?

  • Xavier Steen

    Wow, absolutely amazing.

    RT
    http://www.complete-privacy.net.tc

  • TF is like the TMZ of the interwebz

    lol that scene group isn’t good

    I think all that TF knows about p2p and scene shit is what they see on public trackers

  • MeHere

    Thats a top scene group !?

    I must been away all my life … :D

  • T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M.

    we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize too <> ok, back to business ;)

  • Anonymous

    …home to the infamous Pirate Pontén

    fixed that

  • Cordelia

    What a shame! Svenne if you are reading this, please explain further, or if anybody knows him or the group.

    This all seems a bit mysterious. I hope he didn’t sell anybody else out.

    Antipiratbyrån is probably just switching tactics. Switching to propaganda tactics instead of brute force.

  • RetroGrade

    Top Scene Group!? that’s a new one on me, maybe just top in Sweden.
    I don’t think anyone has anything to worry about at the moment, you should start to panic when axxo, devise and like associates are busted.

    As for the apologies, well, i am sure you would say anything your captor wants when they have a gun to your head and saying talk or go to jail

  • prodigydancer

    I’ve never heard about any Svenne (?) or Redcross (?). So, a standard question follows: who the hell are they and why should we care?

    In any case they’re not scene. They’re a bunch of pussies and they’re probably just as fake as their “farewell statement”.

  • Cyph0n

    Like #13 and #17 said, I’ve never heard of such a group. A few examples of “top scene groups” could be:

    RAZOR1911
    RELOADED
    DONE
    VOMiT
    DiAMOND
    REWARD
    SAiNTS
    TOPAZ
    PARADOX
    CORE
    CRUDE
    ECHELON

    Back to the point – it’s not a big deal. One scene group goes down and a hundred more come up.

    The fact is clear — piracy will never die.

  • prodigydancer

    I partially take back my words.

    http://www.NFOhump.com (NFOrce) doesn’t know anything about REDCROSS but SVENNE is listed there… with as many as 8 releases during last 5 years.

    Alright, they are from tEh Scene… kind of.

    *yawn*

  • dude

    Apology not accepted.

  • Anonymous

    So what is new?

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P_8RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Pe8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2426,4140983&dq=hackers+busted&hl=en

    ps: For those curious about the past there is some ad’s that show the $150 bucks bargain for a discman :)
    The TV sets of the day in all black and white glory are there too.

    Those search by timeline in google are awesome LoL

  • Code of Honor

    If APB would obtain some serious clues , it’d defenitely feed these Svennes to police. So why apologize and even filthy appeals to follow their way !? If you don’t have guts, dont even start…

  • MPAAtard

    I take it they don’t have any lawyers in Sweden.

    The apology reminds me of the statements that hostage victims are forced to read by terr*rists in front of a press release video camera.

    This should come as no surprise. The music and movie industry are like terr*rists and appear to be using terr*rist tactics more and more every year.

    I’ve already boycotted them swearing to never buy another CD or DVD ever again.

  • http://carloanresearch.com/ CL

    What a shame! Svenne if you are reading this, please explain further, or if anybody knows him or the group.
    This all seems a bit mysterious. I hope he didn’t sell anybody else out.
    Antipiratbyrån is probably just switching tactics. Switching to propaganda tactics instead of brute force.

  • the joker

    ha ha

  • Anon

    What I find amazing is that if they really wanted to stop pirating, they could have done it already. They could have used the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars on providing content in the fashion that we pirates demand. It’s very similar to the radio. Back in the day when radio first started playing artists music, at first it was rejected because artists thought they were losing money, when in fact, it was helping them sell albums. Almost every movie and TV show I’ve downloaded, I rarely watch again and I may have considered paying for it if it was offered in high definition, instantaneously without delay at an extremely inexpensive prices around the world. Cost and ease of use are the two reasons I download. However, they’d rather charge me $10 to watch 6 episodes of Family Guy on DVD (which will only scratch and become unplayable in the future) than to charge me $1 per three episodes WITHOUT ADVERTISEMENT. Plus, it is getting so out of hand that they’re losing the ability to convert me from a pirate to a legal downloader every time they sue someone. Every time they bully people, I take more and more pride in being a pirate. Essentially, they’re forcing me to buck the system. We will continue to call their bluff. They can’t stop all of us. No matter how much they lobby, no matter how much they fight, they’re simply outnumbered hundreds of millions to 1. I’m serious, if I could get a very high definition rip of my favorite latest artist album for $3, I would seriously have no reason to download it. Some people download out of spite and these anti-piracy outfits should be blaming themselves because they’ve converted honest, intelligent people into pirates. They’ve pissed us all off. This is not working in their favor. Pirates really do feel like they have a RIGHT to information and I’m inclined to agree with them. I’ll leave you with this excerpt:

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression;
    this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference
    and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through
    any media and regardless of frontiers.”
    Article 19 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights

  • Sendaii

    I don’t like scene groups much seeing as most of them are elitist arseholes, but they’ve done well to survive as long as they did.

  • Rekrul

    There a story that to catch a monkey, you put food in a stump and make sure that the hole is just barely big enough for the monkey’s paw to pass through. Once it grabs the food, its fist will no longer fith through the hole and it will be stuck. The monkey isn’t smart enough to realize that all it needs to do is to drop the food and it could get away.

    That’s what the scene groups reminds me of. They put their name on every one of their releases, they include NFO files bragging about their releases, and then they act surprised when they get caught. Maybe if they didn’t advertise what they were doing, the anti-piracy organizations wouldn’t be targeting them specifically.

  • BelajLama

    Not all of them are elitist jerks, and the name/NFO is there for a reason, as a mark of quality of a certain release, so dont be so judgemental. I bet u have( as myself) a lot of those scene software appz on youre PC

    Take care & stay safe……

  • Lur

    haha you guys crack me up, one dude talks about axxo hehe axxo is prbly the most famous p2p’er Not scene.

    just for your information most of the european scene is located in sweden, and – svenne – redcross – BBDvDR is a group of ppl which release retail Nordic Pal, so this bust may effect piracy in scandinavia though a doubt it. This scene group has pre’d alot in about 10 years time and ofc they have a lot of connections with affl and other scene groups.

    Svenne wasn’t like other groups which hates p2p they made their realeses for the scene and p2p in one perspective.

  • shwrth

    @27

    How can you not like the scene groups??
    They are the reason we have content on bittorrent. You people are complete idiots!!

  • lol

    @31 yeah to true most of the re-encodes cams and 360 games (except for the odd shite rls that gets you banned) all of them get it from the scene. Granted p2p might be the best way to distribute these files but its thanks to the scene that you have them. BTW who are these guys???

  • jamoke

    To me, no police involvement means that some of the members may be connected to prominent citizens that would find this embarrassing. At least that’s usually how things play out in the states.

  • Ninja

    @ 26 Oct 05, 2009 at 18:51 by Anon

    Your words are precisely what I feel. Would you sue me if I used them? lmao

  • Clueless

    Make the “Upload Day” where everybody get an ISO copy and upload to the Pirate Bay LoL

  • X-Pirate

    SVENNE have released at least 350
    REDCROSS have done less than 50

  • Norm

    Thats what you get for running a centralized group.

    Now if you all had just ripped movies on your own, and threw em up on bit torrent, you’d have been safer.

    Scene groups existed on BBS groups for a reason: BBS’s had limited phone lines and needed to keep warez within the group to save bandwidth. The Internet is decentralized, and the epitome of decentralization is p2p. We don’t need groups anymore. Anyone who joins a group now a days is in it for the glory and fame.

  • djnforce9

    @26 – Anon: You are correct and it’s been said several times already. A “download as much as you want for a fixed monthly cost” is probably the best way to go whereby the collection we can access is as complete as what songs are protected by the music industry. One thing I HATE about buying music online is scouring for online music stores that:
    1. Has the exact album I want (Music store contents seem to vary A LOT)
    2. Does NOT use DRM (I want mp3 files which play on all devices, NOT encrypted WMA’s)
    3. Will sell mp3 downloads outside of the USA (that means you’re OUT Amazon, Spotify, etc)
    4. Let’s me download the music without having to install third party software. I HATE these e-stores that require specialized downloaders just to get the music in a reasonable fashion (i.e not one song at a time) or even at all. This is why I would never use Napster or iTunes.

    CDBaby is probably the the best music store out there but it still lacks an “all you can eat” (figuratively speaking) plan and its library is still very limited.

  • Anon

    @34

    In regards to my previous comment (#26) – please quote me if you want.

  • michael8124

    The whole thing sounds fishy to me. And what the heck is FUD?

  • A nonney horse

    About that “all our members and sites” thing… APB would think this, wouldn’t they?

    Taking any of this at face value is probably fairly silly.

  • Anonymous

    Pontén have to apologize to the people or face a terrible consequence.

  • dio

    L. O. L.

    I love how Old People think they can still control the Internets.

  • Gavin

    The chances are the individuals will give it up for a while. But will get bored and join or create new groups when they think it’s safe.

  • Enthalpy

    got away without jail?
    GJ guys spread All the FUD you want, save your friends and don’t sell anyone out. Do all these things and go down in history as a solid scene group of the past. word to ya motha

  • Code of Honor

    And what about this:- It has not been any negotiations. But because we have had access to so much valuable information, we will not act legally, “says Henrik Pontén, head lawyer in the Anti-Piracy Office- This information will we use when we proceed with more cases. (Source :http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/uppsparad-illegal-filmleverantor-lagger-ner-1.967698)

  • StevO

    I cant post this enough, spread it around. go leave your signature:
    http://www.copyrightalliance.org/letter/ dont leave your real name but get your few words in atleast. Let your voice be heard to the Obama too.

  • Puntun

    Basically anyone who can rent/buy a movie or music album can replace them. Why do you think “lone runners” like axxo, sickboy and a gazillion others can release literally tons of rips in HQ? It’s not rocket science.

    The groups that AREN’T easily replaceable are real, true crackers / reverse engineers.

    Being able to encode a DVD takes the IQ of sludge with modern tools; being able to reverse engineer Securom is a TAD more difficult.

    Respect to all true hackers, crackers and sceners.
    Don’t ever stop believing.

  • Hans Pandeya

    who?

  • X-Pirate

    BEWARE

    The link posted by StevO

    49 Oct 06, 2009 at 08:50 by StevO

    His link is actually to an organization that want to STRENGTHEN the copyright laws

  • OD
  • Pingback: FTC, blogging, blogger ethics, paid reviews, disclosure, $1100 fine, Obama, national texting while driving ban, government employees, Apple store, shooting an iPhone, Amazon, Kindle, Kindle book deletion policy, The Pirate Bay sale, Scene group, piracy py

  • _:_

    The reason why no police action is taken is probably coz the methods used to obtain the information most likely were illegal.

    However, most people on the edge of the law here in scandinavia knows that if they decides to nail you, they will. The justice system here is mainly designed to keep the state/status quo/power elite in control.

  • That Person!

    FUD (Fear, Uncertantity, Doubt) will not stop us…
    We will do to them what The HeartStopper burger did to fat people!!!

  • BTGuard - BitTorrent Anonymously

NewsBits

Even more news...

  • The Pirate Bay Isn’t Down Completely, Just Having a Few Issues

    Twitter and Facebook, not to mention the TorrentFreak inbox, are currently alive with complaints that The...

  • Pirate Bay Founder Gottfrid Svartholm on Freedom of Speech

    Freedom of speech is a highly valued commodity, but should people be allowed to say whatever...

  • Blu-ray Anti-Piracy Tech Stops Discs and Promotes Purchases

    An anti-piracy system present in all official Blu-ray players since 2012 has received a fresh update...

  • Foxtel Breeds Pirates by Locking Up Game of Thrones

    One of the main reasons why people turn to piracy is the lack of legal alternatives....

  • UK Student Admits Breaching Sony Copyrights With Leak of PS3 SDK

    Last year an Internet user known as El Nomeo leaked version 3.70 of Sony’s Playstation3 SDK...

MostDiscussed

Below are TorrentFreak's most discussed articles of the past month. Join the discussion if you like.

CopyQuote

Left Quote

“The Pirate Bay has been one of the most important movements in Sweden for freedom of speech, working against corruption and censorship.

Peter Sunde Left Quote

PopularArticles

A selection of some TorrentFreak's classics dug up from our archives.