Comments on: Anti-Piracy Outfit Forces Scene Group To Apologize

By: That Person!

That Person! — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:39:04 +0000

FUD (Fear, Uncertantity, Doubt) will not stop us…
We will do to them what The HeartStopper burger did to fat people!!!

By: _:_

_:_ — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:58:14 +0000

The reason why no police action is taken is probably coz the methods used to obtain the information most likely were illegal.

However, most people on the edge of the law here in scandinavia knows that if they decides to nail you, they will. The justice system here is mainly designed to keep the state/status quo/power elite in control.

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Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:36:36 +0000

[...] Anti-piracy outfit forces scene group to apologize and spread FUD [...]

By: OD

OD — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:09:32 +0000

http://www.welcometothescene.com/download.php

Series 1 :P awesome

By: X-Pirate

X-Pirate — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:39:33 +0000

BEWARE

The link posted by StevO

49 Oct 06, 2009 at 08:50 by StevO

His link is actually to an organization that want to STRENGTHEN the copyright laws

By: Hans Pandeya

Hans Pandeya — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:30:42 +0000

who?

By: Puntun

Puntun — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:52:59 +0000

Basically anyone who can rent/buy a movie or music album can replace them. Why do you think “lone runners” like axxo, sickboy and a gazillion others can release literally tons of rips in HQ? It’s not rocket science.

The groups that AREN’T easily replaceable are real, true crackers / reverse engineers.

Being able to encode a DVD takes the IQ of sludge with modern tools; being able to reverse engineer Securom is a TAD more difficult.

Respect to all true hackers, crackers and sceners.
Don’t ever stop believing.

By: StevO

StevO — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:50:51 +0000

I cant post this enough, spread it around. go leave your signature:
http://www.copyrightalliance.org/letter/ dont leave your real name but get your few words in atleast. Let your voice be heard to the Obama too.

By: Code of Honor

Code of Honor — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:55:52 +0000

And what about this:- It has not been any negotiations. But because we have had access to so much valuable information, we will not act legally, “says Henrik Pontén, head lawyer in the Anti-Piracy Office- This information will we use when we proceed with more cases. (Source :http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/uppsparad-illegal-filmleverantor-lagger-ner-1.967698)

By: Enthalpy

Enthalpy — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:46:15 +0000

got away without jail?
GJ guys spread All the FUD you want, save your friends and don’t sell anyone out. Do all these things and go down in history as a solid scene group of the past. word to ya motha

By: Gavin

Gavin — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:17:23 +0000

The chances are the individuals will give it up for a while. But will get bored and join or create new groups when they think it’s safe.

By: dio

dio — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:41:57 +0000

L. O. L.

I love how Old People think they can still control the Internets.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:20:59 +0000

Pontén have to apologize to the people or face a terrible consequence.

By: A nonney horse

A nonney horse — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:09:02 +0000

About that “all our members and sites” thing… APB would think this, wouldn’t they?

Taking any of this at face value is probably fairly silly.

By: michael8124

michael8124 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:41:47 +0000

The whole thing sounds fishy to me. And what the heck is FUD?

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:52:15 +0000

@34

In regards to my previous comment (#26) – please quote me if you want.

By: djnforce9

djnforce9 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:23:25 +0000

@26 – Anon: You are correct and it’s been said several times already. A “download as much as you want for a fixed monthly cost” is probably the best way to go whereby the collection we can access is as complete as what songs are protected by the music industry. One thing I HATE about buying music online is scouring for online music stores that:
1. Has the exact album I want (Music store contents seem to vary A LOT)
2. Does NOT use DRM (I want mp3 files which play on all devices, NOT encrypted WMA’s)
3. Will sell mp3 downloads outside of the USA (that means you’re OUT Amazon, Spotify, etc)
4. Let’s me download the music without having to install third party software. I HATE these e-stores that require specialized downloaders just to get the music in a reasonable fashion (i.e not one song at a time) or even at all. This is why I would never use Napster or iTunes.

CDBaby is probably the the best music store out there but it still lacks an “all you can eat” (figuratively speaking) plan and its library is still very limited.

By: Norm

Norm — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:01:59 +0000

Thats what you get for running a centralized group.

Now if you all had just ripped movies on your own, and threw em up on bit torrent, you’d have been safer.

Scene groups existed on BBS groups for a reason: BBS’s had limited phone lines and needed to keep warez within the group to save bandwidth. The Internet is decentralized, and the epitome of decentralization is p2p. We don’t need groups anymore. Anyone who joins a group now a days is in it for the glory and fame.

By: X-Pirate

X-Pirate — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0000

SVENNE have released at least 350
REDCROSS have done less than 50

By: Clueless

Clueless — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:45:15 +0000

Make the “Upload Day” where everybody get an ISO copy and upload to the Pirate Bay LoL

By: Ninja

Ninja — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:43:05 +0000

@ 26 Oct 05, 2009 at 18:51 by Anon

Your words are precisely what I feel. Would you sue me if I used them? lmao

By: jamoke

jamoke — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:36:32 +0000

To me, no police involvement means that some of the members may be connected to prominent citizens that would find this embarrassing. At least that’s usually how things play out in the states.

By: lol

lol — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:27:29 +0000

@31 yeah to true most of the re-encodes cams and 360 games (except for the odd shite rls that gets you banned) all of them get it from the scene. Granted p2p might be the best way to distribute these files but its thanks to the scene that you have them. BTW who are these guys???

By: shwrth

shwrth — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:18:37 +0000

@27

How can you not like the scene groups??
They are the reason we have content on bittorrent. You people are complete idiots!!

By: Lur

Lur — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:13:59 +0000

haha you guys crack me up, one dude talks about axxo hehe axxo is prbly the most famous p2p’er Not scene.

just for your information most of the european scene is located in sweden, and – svenne – redcross – BBDvDR is a group of ppl which release retail Nordic Pal, so this bust may effect piracy in scandinavia though a doubt it. This scene group has pre’d alot in about 10 years time and ofc they have a lot of connections with affl and other scene groups.

Svenne wasn’t like other groups which hates p2p they made their realeses for the scene and p2p in one perspective.

By: BelajLama

BelajLama — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:49:08 +0000

Not all of them are elitist jerks, and the name/NFO is there for a reason, as a mark of quality of a certain release, so dont be so judgemental. I bet u have( as myself) a lot of those scene software appz on youre PC

Take care & stay safe……

By: Rekrul

Rekrul — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:32:06 +0000

There a story that to catch a monkey, you put food in a stump and make sure that the hole is just barely big enough for the monkey’s paw to pass through. Once it grabs the food, its fist will no longer fith through the hole and it will be stuck. The monkey isn’t smart enough to realize that all it needs to do is to drop the food and it could get away.

That’s what the scene groups reminds me of. They put their name on every one of their releases, they include NFO files bragging about their releases, and then they act surprised when they get caught. Maybe if they didn’t advertise what they were doing, the anti-piracy organizations wouldn’t be targeting them specifically.

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:12:18 +0000

I don’t like scene groups much seeing as most of them are elitist arseholes, but they’ve done well to survive as long as they did.

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:51:21 +0000

What I find amazing is that if they really wanted to stop pirating, they could have done it already. They could have used the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars on providing content in the fashion that we pirates demand. It’s very similar to the radio. Back in the day when radio first started playing artists music, at first it was rejected because artists thought they were losing money, when in fact, it was helping them sell albums. Almost every movie and TV show I’ve downloaded, I rarely watch again and I may have considered paying for it if it was offered in high definition, instantaneously without delay at an extremely inexpensive prices around the world. Cost and ease of use are the two reasons I download. However, they’d rather charge me $10 to watch 6 episodes of Family Guy on DVD (which will only scratch and become unplayable in the future) than to charge me $1 per three episodes WITHOUT ADVERTISEMENT. Plus, it is getting so out of hand that they’re losing the ability to convert me from a pirate to a legal downloader every time they sue someone. Every time they bully people, I take more and more pride in being a pirate. Essentially, they’re forcing me to buck the system. We will continue to call their bluff. They can’t stop all of us. No matter how much they lobby, no matter how much they fight, they’re simply outnumbered hundreds of millions to 1. I’m serious, if I could get a very high definition rip of my favorite latest artist album for $3, I would seriously have no reason to download it. Some people download out of spite and these anti-piracy outfits should be blaming themselves because they’ve converted honest, intelligent people into pirates. They’ve pissed us all off. This is not working in their favor. Pirates really do feel like they have a RIGHT to information and I’m inclined to agree with them. I’ll leave you with this excerpt:

“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression;
this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference
and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through
any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Article 19 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights

By: the joker

the joker — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:27:34 +0000

ha ha

By: CL

CL — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:21:49 +0000

What a shame! Svenne if you are reading this, please explain further, or if anybody knows him or the group.
This all seems a bit mysterious. I hope he didn’t sell anybody else out.
Antipiratbyrån is probably just switching tactics. Switching to propaganda tactics instead of brute force.

By: MPAAtard

MPAAtard — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:11:01 +0000

I take it they don’t have any lawyers in Sweden.

The apology reminds me of the statements that hostage victims are forced to read by terr*rists in front of a press release video camera.

This should come as no surprise. The music and movie industry are like terr*rists and appear to be using terr*rist tactics more and more every year.

I’ve already boycotted them swearing to never buy another CD or DVD ever again.

By: Code of Honor

Code of Honor — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:00:44 +0000

If APB would obtain some serious clues , it’d defenitely feed these Svennes to police. So why apologize and even filthy appeals to follow their way !? If you don’t have guts, dont even start…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:52:39 +0000

So what is new?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P_8RAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Pe8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2426,4140983&dq=hackers+busted&hl=en

ps: For those curious about the past there is some ad’s that show the $150 bucks bargain for a discman :)
The TV sets of the day in all black and white glory are there too.

Those search by timeline in google are awesome LoL

By: dude

dude — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:51:29 +0000

Apology not accepted.

By: prodigydancer

prodigydancer — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:44:06 +0000

I partially take back my words.

http://www.NFOhump.com (NFOrce) doesn’t know anything about REDCROSS but SVENNE is listed there… with as many as 8 releases during last 5 years.

Alright, they are from tEh Scene… kind of.

*yawn*

By: Cyph0n

Cyph0n — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:16:33 +0000

Like #13 and #17 said, I’ve never heard of such a group. A few examples of “top scene groups” could be:

RAZOR1911
RELOADED
DONE
VOMiT
DiAMOND
REWARD
SAiNTS
TOPAZ
PARADOX
CORE
CRUDE
ECHELON

Back to the point – it’s not a big deal. One scene group goes down and a hundred more come up.

The fact is clear — piracy will never die.

By: prodigydancer

prodigydancer — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:08:17 +0000

I’ve never heard about any Svenne (?) or Redcross (?). So, a standard question follows: who the hell are they and why should we care?

In any case they’re not scene. They’re a bunch of pussies and they’re probably just as fake as their “farewell statement”.

By: RetroGrade

RetroGrade — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:07:43 +0000

Top Scene Group!? that’s a new one on me, maybe just top in Sweden.
I don’t think anyone has anything to worry about at the moment, you should start to panic when axxo, devise and like associates are busted.

As for the apologies, well, i am sure you would say anything your captor wants when they have a gun to your head and saying talk or go to jail

By: Cordelia

Cordelia — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:58:57 +0000

What a shame! Svenne if you are reading this, please explain further, or if anybody knows him or the group.

This all seems a bit mysterious. I hope he didn’t sell anybody else out.

Antipiratbyrån is probably just switching tactics. Switching to propaganda tactics instead of brute force.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:44:50 +0000

…home to the infamous Pirate Pontén

fixed that

By: T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M.

T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M. — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:43:57 +0000

we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize too <> ok, back to business ;)

By: MeHere

MeHere — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:42:10 +0000

Thats a top scene group !?

I must been away all my life … :D

By: TF is like the TMZ of the interwebz

TF is like the TMZ of the interwebz — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:25:44 +0000

lol that scene group isn’t good

I think all that TF knows about p2p and scene shit is what they see on public trackers

By: Xavier Steen

Xavier Steen — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:23:06 +0000

Wow, absolutely amazing.

RT
http://www.complete-privacy.net.tc

By: The Dude

The Dude — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:11:24 +0000

What the fuck happened to Sweden, has it turned into Cultural Revolution period China where those found guilty by the elites of the country were forced to publicly grovel to scare the masses into submission?

FUCK YOU SWEDEN.

Actually.. FUCK YOU CORRUPT SWEDISH BUREAUCRATS WHO KISS THE ASS OF AMERICA.

FUCK YOU!

To the Swedish people: stand up for your dignity and support politicians that don’t pander to the almighty (American) dollar.

Grovelling.. what next? Walking around Stockholm with a dunce cap with ‘I am a pirate’ and chained to a sandwich board filled with words of profuse apology for sins committed against America?

By: Trelew

Trelew — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:59:34 +0000

What bothers me is the way that Big Business is allowed to use any underhanded dirty tricks, no questionable tactics question, and the governments let them pass on by. An individual tries half of the stunts done by corporations and there are major repercussions. It’s sad world to realize that Big Business can get away with a lot of questionable and disgusting sh!t

By: NoOne

NoOne — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:51:42 +0000

I would have done the same public apologies, but this doesn’t mean that they would have had any meaning. It makes me think to those videos with hostages saying their orders were wrong, they do regret what they’ve done and that the ransom should be paid.

For me, this public apology was obtained under pressure and therefore it is worthless.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:45:03 +0000

Eh, scene groups are full of elitist nerds anyway. There’s bound to be more that spring up.

By: ytb

ytb — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:34:46 +0000

I hope the remaining scene groups view this as a challenge – RIP Svenne/Redcross hopefully 100 more will take your place