This anti-piracy outfit recognise a money spinner, the professional content creator just inherited another parasite.

File sharing is a reality you cant put the genie back in the bottle, I suppose the anti-piracy outfitt is just damage limitation know.

beeatches

from story:
From the looks of it, the sites were all hosted at amenworld.com.
With a name like that of course the site will bend over faster than a Catholic altar boy

YA NEVER DO THIS TO GET RICH
if ya make a few bucks so what its not your fault people are generous however if your doing things to intentionally make cash like selling invites and selling GB and selling this and selling that , either dont ask for donations or goto prison ya just should not make a living off it.

I bet most of those sites will come back bigger and better. Yaay anti-piracy!

Roze

Bandwidth costs money, you fool. Most Torrent sites literally couldn’t afford to exist if it weren’t for adclicks and/or donations. And so what if they turn a profit, anyway?

An MPAA sockpuppet: “without copyright, without the big movie studios, movies like the dark knight or iron man or any other big budget blockbuster would not be made.”

Bullshit.

Filesharing didn’t stop Iron man from making a killing at the box office, and it didn’t stop The Dark Knight from raking in one billion dollars worldwide, either. Ergo, we would still have big budget blockbusters if copyright didn’t exist.

And since we’d still have big budget blockbusters, blockbusters being the key word here(are you following me so far, Shortbus?), we’d also still have big movie studios.

Try again.

im glad that they busted those criminal scum!

i hope they are going to prison

An interesting point, but what prison times? What heavy fines? Using my own country as an example, Australia, enforcement agencies have demonstrated an almost pathological reluctance to prosecute so-called offenders.

Sure the laws exist, but if they’re never enforced, how effective are they? And more importantly, why won’t agencies carry out any arrests? Simply, they don’t want to. These laws are being breeched by everyday citizens with no other criminal inclination. Lots of everyday citizens. Millions and millions of them.

I was down the pub the other night and happened to run into a couple of Attorney General’s copyright lawyers. After a few beers and a robust discussion on piracy I asked them casually how often they used bit-torrent. One looked at me blankly and had no idea what I was talking about. The other piped up his download collection was huge before realising what he was saying, at which point he wisely clammed up.

If those responsible for enforcing the laws simply refuse to do it and those responsible for drafting the laws are themselves either completely ignorant or participating in illegal file transfers, then it’s fairly obvious where this will all end and it’s not with arrests and fines.

that does not stand to reason. in fact, almost nothing you say “stands to reason”. you are obviously speaking out of your ass. without copyright, without the big movie studios, movies like the dark knight or iron man or any other big budget blockbuster would not be made.

They are NOT doing anything illegal Submission and getting away with is has nothing to do with it

Moron

just like RARbg

I think that it is most important not to submit to an unjust authority, but rather to come up with a better plan to resist them. To “hide away” is the same thing as submission.

Roze

However, what law is being broken if there is no copyright on the material? Who in these fileshare networks respects that copyright as a request to not freely distribute their work?

I think it’s clear that BREIN’s PURPOSE and their GOALS are two different things. I think they should be burned at the stake.

I think the biggest problem, is that it is hard to produce anything without a good label or at least the elements thereof. I see many up and coming artists on myspace and as soon as they have some popularity, the record labels are sending over offers of contracts and whatever. I think it is ultimately up to the artists to take a stand in order to reject these leeches.

In the meantime, fileshare networks should do one of the following: avoid breaking the law (thank you Mr. Obvious), hide themselves better, or maybe ally and come up with a better plan (become this “organized crime” ring they fantasize about).

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-Yatti

This is not about ‘illegal’ file sharing. This is all about the complete failure of the copyright industry to come to terms with the realities of 21st century technology and economics.

The rights and wrongs of file sharing make absolutely no difference whatsoever to those realities. People can bitch and whinge as much as they like about how illegal and immoral they believe file sharing is, but while there is still an internet then it will never go away, nor even diminish; quite the contrary, it is just going to keep expanding. The sooner the copyright industry accepts that and adapts to it, the better off we will all be (except maybe for certain parasitic fat cats at the top of that industry).

There are some interesting parallels to the utterly failed ‘war on drugs’.

Real men like me use FTP. :)

“stop trying to speak for professional artists. you don?t know any.”
Like as if you know any more.

“without big studio backing, 7 of the 10 most downloaded movies this year would never have been made.”
What about those other 3? It stands to reason that if a movie is worth making, it will be made regardless of whether a big studio backs it or not – so the only reason why it would be necessary is to push a movie to be more popular (through marketing) than it is actually worth.

@37 stfu
Indeed, I think that what the major marketing is trying to do is trying to fool an unknowing population into knowing buying their stuff, even if it is trash. At least P2P has the good intent of not pushing stuff on people – which is why the current culture based on marketing wants to shut it down, to retain control on what people see.

@35 jaded
We don’t know whether they are profiteering from the BitTorrent or not. We only know that they are funded through donations – and that does not imply that there is profiteering.

Roze

Information wants, and always will be, to be free.

“very few people will download it without hearing about it first – through marketing and promotion or through reputation, which was gained through marketing and promotion.”

This is only true to a certain extent and is only relevent to the main stream manufactured shite that’s not worth a dime anyway. The majority of music I download is not available simply by visiting the local megathief music store. Most of the artists i download i’ve never hear of before and if I like their stuff I tell others about them.

Marketing is nothing more than a tool used by the mainstream to push utter crap on stupid people who will buy anything if you advertise it enough, it does not mean they have talent and it certainly does not mean that it is worth buying, at least if you have any sense.

Shutting down filesharing has nothing to do with protecting revenue, it’s about controlling markets. Its about controlling how, where, and to whom they are distributing to. Its about controlling which artists are promoted and which are tossed asside regardless of their “tallent”. If they can control p2p they can control exactly what music they want you to hear, what films they want you to see becuase they have no interest in anyone except that which they endorse and control and are unhappy that there are others who are not under their control that the ability to compete and who threaten their cartel.

I agree…that is some epic fail they have there lol would have left them alone

All BitTorrent sites which are making money are owned by people that have no need or interest inpeer-to-peer file sharing.

They are making money, they shall pay, there’s no rationale out of this and all this troll noise here won’t reduce a day off their prison time or heavy fines.
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Torrentfreak can’t show sympathy for piracy-for-profit sites and still call itself a peer-to-peer news blog. You’re shooting on your own foot.

All BitTorrent sites which are making money are owned by people that have no need or interest inpeer-to-peer file sharing.

They are making money, they shall pay, there’s no rationale out of this and all this troll noise here won’t reduce a day off their prison time or heavy fines.
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Torrentfreak can’t show sympathy for piracy-for-profit sites and still call itself a peer-to-peer news blog. You’re shooting on your own foot.

@ Az
Excellent posts there.

@ mafiaa troll sounds like greg gutfeld…

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3019/ashleythetorrentfreakbomh8.jpg

Ashley we love you

Maybe you need to make music or whatever then do concerts and make millions like that. Anyways people like apple with itunes rip music makers off and pay them next to nothing.

Anyone who watched Babylon 5 will probably remember when that guy who worked with the shadows said something like “we knock down the ant hills and then they grow back better, stronger and bigger” well that will probably happend with those sites. Only theyre will probably be 1 big one as they are all on the same side, stand for the same thing and got knocked down at the same time.

Looks like that company who killed those site will have some problems soon.

these are the details that would make this story interesting for me.

“Of course, for more examples, there would have to be other people to fill you in on it, since I do not know much about culture anywhere in general”
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LOL!

of course you don’t, roze! you live in your parent’s basement and probably aren’t even old enough to drive.

also, stop trying to speak for professional artists. you don’t know any.

another thing to consider on the cinema side of things, is without big studio backing, 7 of the 10 most downloaded movies this year would never have been made.

(which could almost be a good thing if you consider “zohan” would never have seen the light of day but i digress…)

Why are you so threatened by this issue?

“which btw is uninformed as you are not an artist”

I’m a writer. I’ve earned 8 grand this year from my work. Nothing big league, but I think I’ve earned the right to call myself a professional writer. Feel free to continue being an expert on what I do if it makes you happy, but I don’t think it will do much for your own chances of looking informed.

feed they hydro! make you own bittorent site!

Also, the fact is that P2P has a very real potential of replacing marketing and promotion and reputation – if it were to be accepted as mainstream.

“Please provide examples of artists that have somehow been heard of by millions without a marketing campaign.”
This is not an example of music without marketing, but there has been an example for a computer game – called Touhou, which had no marketing whatsoever, but which is very popular in Japan.

Of course, for more examples, there would have to be other people to fill you in on it, since I do not know much about culture anywhere in general, but the fact still stands that this one example disproves the idea that “marketing campaigns are NECESSARY for popularity.”

“Considering that the majority of artists who are good enough to provide entertainment to others want to earn a living off their art how is filesharing helping?”
Wrong. The majority of artists want to have their work seen. Moreover, it is definitely helping since it is promoting their work.

Roze

Please provide a list of artists that generate income without the help of a record label. Please explain how artists are better off at a small label which pays them less than a major label. Please provide examples of artists that have somehow been heard of by millions without a marketing campaign.

Else your ramblings sound like a crock of shit with no relation to what happens in reality.

“The issue here is control. Companies have been robbing artists of control of their art for years. File sharing is restoring that control by making the artist valuable, not the art.”

Despite your view – which btw is uninformed as you are not an artist – the majority of artits aspire to a contract with a record label. This is my view and unlike your is based on what happens in reality. Considering that the majority of artists who are good enough to provide entertainment to others want to earn a living off their art how is filesharing helping? The facts are that having files in some kind of CDN such as P2P doesn’t mean jackshit – very few people will download it without hearing about it first – through marketing and promotion or through reputation, which was gained through marketing and promotion.

Also how the hell you think that filesharing is “restoring control” to artists is beyond me. If anything it’s removing control from the artists compared to traditional distribution methods.

When a single dominant P2P site like Sharereactor, Suprnova, or Oink goes down, that’s significant news. But having a chain of 75 tiny insignificant sites (all run off one server) go down … pffft.

“#4 Don’t feed the trolls”

Usually good advice Kirby, but Anonymous is playing devil’s advocate and that’s handy for the discussion.

Professional artists are the ones being most ripped off. Sure 1% of them are portrayed as living opulent life-styles, but the vast majority are poorly compensated as profits are channelled away from the actual creators into the pockets of corporate hierarchies and share holders.

File sharing lets you cut out all that parasitic crap and go straight to the audience, which is an enormous saving in the cost of production. It also removes the corporate bullshit factor and frees up creative control.

If you’re a popular professional artist and you can’t work out how to generate income without some exploitative company holding your hand, you could view things like record company marketing as a positive service I guess. (Although if your art needs advertising to promote it, it’s probably not that good in the first place.) If you’re an unpopular professional artist you should probably switch professions.

The issue here is control. Companies have been robbing artists of control of their art for years. File sharing is restoring that control by making the artist valuable, not the art. Of course that disagrees with those who’ve been profiteering and it would be peculiar if such people didn’t have a cry which is no doubt how we got to this discussion point.

Whether Anonymous likes it or not, file sharing is a revolution and it’s here to stay. In a century, this argument will be as quaint as using leeches to treat headaches. I wish it was that quaint now, but some people still insist on living in the past.