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[...] Judge Jeopardizes Anti-Piracy Cash Operation DigiProtect has shot itself and its business model in the foot during a recent court hearing. The notorious anti-piracy outfit refused to open its books for scrutiny during a case where it claimed compensation against a file-sharer. The judge consequently ruled that the defendant didn’t have to pay the majority of the claim against him. [...]

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By: BASiQ

BASiQ — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:55:12 +0000

Well, good for him… He should not have to pay anything, but at least he only had to pay a little…

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Pirate Home Page » Judge Jeopardizes Anti-Piracy Cash Operation — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:56:57 +0000

[...] DigiProtect is a controversial anti-piracy company which also acts as a copyright holder in order to ease civil claims against alleged file-sharers in several countries across Europe. They track IP addresses on popular file-sharing networks, obtain the identities behind them and demand cash settlements Read More : Judge Jeopardizes Anti-Piracy Cash Operation [...]

By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:36:54 +0000

Not file-sharer TF, “alleged” file-sharer.

By: Annie Moose

Annie Moose — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:43:01 +0000

Haha, nice. It’s acceptable and reasonable, in my eyes, for them to ask the 150 euro license fee. That makes sense, and it obviously did to the file-sharer too. But all those “extra” fees? Pshh, if they aren’t willing to tell a *judge* what those fees are supposed to cover, that does create some serious doubt about the validity of ANY of their claims!

By: pedross

pedross — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:20:39 +0000

had anyone had any good advise from a reputable source?

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By: Trelew

Trelew — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:59:37 +0000

I’m amazed the judge didn’t nailed their corporate-friendly asses to the wall for contempt of court charges.

By: raisin brain

raisin brain — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:38:53 +0000

this sounds like a great business.

I am the copywrite holder of everything.
I sniff up your address.
I send you a bill/threat.
You paypal me.
I buy another pina colada in barbados and count my money.
repeat.

By: zod

zod — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:29:13 +0000

@ 14 Feb 07, 2010 at 16:28 by Reasoned Mind

After the appeal this will be reversed, mark my words. We are about make history…

again i call BULLSH!T…… there was the small problem of PROOF, they refused to open up their books as it would no doubt show their highly IMMORAL business practices to all

oh the irony.. lawyers, the law,integrity, moraltily hohohohohohoho

By: Whatever

Whatever — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:03:00 +0000

Since nobody mentioned it:
I am just wondering what kind of license it was he received ?

As 150 euro is far to much for a movie or music album. If it is a license for distributing, this would mean he can go and share it forever now.

By: Yatti420

Yatti420 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:01:49 +0000

Seems the anti-piracy companies are getting their fair share of losses this year..

By: xxploit

xxploit — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:11:22 +0000

yey cookies

By: Gavin

Gavin — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:12:29 +0000

They call them self layers, shortly they should of guest that this is the way this court case is going to go, if they are not prepared to show ever dense.

Probably because the figure is exaggerated, as we all guest!

By: Spartacus

Spartacus — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:49:33 +0000

I’m Reasoned Mind!

By: Obedient

Obedient — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:34:22 +0000

Well what do you know!!!!!!???
It turns out that internet “piracy” is turning out to be HUGELY profitable for anti-piracy outfits and their lawyers!! It seems to be the best thing that could have happened for their account books!
How much of the money they extort from internet users actually goes to the (in their own words) poor “content creators” and copyright holders?

By: Brandon

Brandon — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:31:38 +0000

Yeh, The guy shouldn’t have paid the 150 euro. When taken to court would have then been thrown out and defendant pay nothing. He was dumbass to pay them anything voluntarily.

By: Vlad

Vlad — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:15:41 +0000

Hmm, WTF is Spartacus? :)

By: Unauthorized Content Consumer

Unauthorized Content Consumer — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:48:55 +0000

Awww…poor poor lawyers.

ROFFLE! xD

By: Lothor The Evil

Lothor The Evil — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:32:39 +0000

I would rather see the real Reasoned Mind here than these retarded impersonators. You people are immature and need to grow up. We don’t need more trolls on here.

In my opinion, the guy shouldn’t have had to pay anything at all, or at least the judge should have asked to see positive proof what the guy downloaded before making a judgment.

By: Rob

Rob — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:20:20 +0000

Il be what I want and if there were not so many inarticulate comments all over TPB or even this site my opinion would be different. Only the other day on here someone was arguing with me over the existence of a Daybreakers screener which does exist! The only people annoyed with my opinion lets face it, are the people I was talking about in my comment. I don’t expect people to have to abandon P2P but I do expect less attitude from the people that barely understand it. Countless time I see people on TPB shouting and screaming about seeds or the quality of the upload and guess what, they have contributed nothing back! You know who you are! Them’s who I was talking about, like you Sendaii. Your the elitist jerk or you wouldn’t have found my comment offensive in the 1st place. :-)

By: Organ Grinder

Organ Grinder — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:37:59 +0000

Nuh uh im Spartacus!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:32:41 +0000

now to trash the esa for hoarding old games >:@

By: prodigydancer

prodigydancer — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:03:09 +0000

That one little step for filesharers, one great leap for humanity.

By: Ramonçito

Ramonçito — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:30:47 +0000

It looks like the European courts are more objective to such copyright cases then their American counterparts.. I’ve read about Spanish courts fining downloaders one Euro (or less, can not recall correctly) and now this. Still, 150 Euros for a license to view whatever digital file is still a lot of money compared to a similar(?) movie file from iTunes.

By: SL

SL — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:11:39 +0000

All you have to do is say you have an unsecured router and they will drop the case. It was in the documents leaked.

They will only go after people who refused to reply and then get a default judgement or people who admit responsibility. They havent won a case against anyone who denied it.

By: Raisin Brain

Raisin Brain — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:51:15 +0000

another fine example of a clueless judge.

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:24:28 +0000

@27 Rob: In my opinion, the more people who use torrents, the better. It’s called “PEER to PEER” for a reason. Stop being such an elitist jerk.

By: Rob

Rob — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:46:28 +0000

Torrents were great years and years ago (2002ish and just before) but now all the masses are using them its suddenly a problem. Even a few years ago I was being asked and seeing comments in forums like “I tried to download such and such but I keep getting a .torrent file, how do I get my D/L” Now every computer I go and fix regardless of their knowledge has utorrent on it. Ignorant masses

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:17:19 +0000

Nov it’s obvious for everyone who is Spartacus! :)

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:08:18 +0000

No i’m Spartacus!

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:06:49 +0000

I’m Spartacus!

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:36:23 +0000

Poor cheap kids dont have money? Lamers
look at me.I am a bus driver but still i make people offers they cant refuse (you know the way i talk walk and seduce young males)!
Result,you ask? Well i buy my fetish movies legally!

By: PirateAnon

PirateAnon — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:33:06 +0000

We need more article’s about this kind of courts.

By: Bullzeye

Bullzeye — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:27:54 +0000

Another anti-piracy group gets shot down by the court.

By: Barry

Barry — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:25:22 +0000

I’m dissapointed.

I clicked this and thought the Judge’s name was “Judge Jepordizes” :(

In all seriousnes though, serves them right for being such greedy bar-stewards.

By: Chango

Chango — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:23:42 +0000

That’s telling the ruddy morons to have themselves a nice, steaming cup ‘o STFU!

By: United Hackers Association

United Hackers Association — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:19:29 +0000

so gain 150 lose 650
WOOT profit oh wait
thats not profit OH MY can we sue more people and lose money now?

haha suckers

By: chaz

chaz — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:01:56 +0000

DEMONOIDE REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN!

By: whatever

whatever — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:50:13 +0000

Not a particularly surprising outcome. I’d much rather see a ruling on the €150 licensing fee…

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:37:10 +0000

@Reasoned Mind: Enough with the “we are going to get you, just you wait!” spiel, we’ve heard it all before.

Oh, I’m still waiting on that VPN licensing that you said would be coming soon, by the way…

By: edit

edit — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:34:10 +0000

Who the hell sues for legal costs and er… won’t disclose thier legal expenses?

That’s just dumb.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:32:48 +0000

LoL.. They won’t open their documents because there are procedures that are, to say the least, doubtful. Not to mention their data collection is flawed and their activity has been labeled ‘legal blackmail’ and despised by competent authorities.

MAFIAA and merry friends will fail in the end. Epically. Unless they evolve and start doing it right..

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:28:57 +0000

After the appeal this will be reversed, mark my words. We are about make history…

By: charlie brownz

charlie brownz — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:43:46 +0000

By: Non

Non — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:32:03 +0000

It seems really rather silly to be in the business of reclaiming lost monies, when the sum your charging for the service is 4x greater than the sum you’re getting back.

I wouldn’t, for example, pay confused.com £100 for saving me £25 on my car insurance…

Yet this is the way the system works – simply because you’ve done something illegal it seems to be okay to dump the legal costs on you.
Personally, i think the copyright holders should be the ones footing the bill. If they want a couple of pounds worth of CD’s back – and they’re going to waste the courts time in doing so – they should pay the lawyers/judge. Not the little guy.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:30:41 +0000

Hellz yeah. Go for piracy!

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:29:03 +0000

A bit sad this guy paid anything to these vultures..
he could have gone with: it wasnt me
or
open wireless
or
someone hacked my wireless
or
etc

but since he saw this through, kudos to him for standing up to the bullies.
A 150euros is nothing, like 1500 Swedish kronas or 200 USD, but if this has set precedent and can be used in other courts in the EU…its like the Mona Lisa – priceless!

Glad to see there’s a bit of sense as well, in the US you can be in the shop for upto $150,000 per *SONG* (which the current administration says is perfectly fine) this guy paid $200 for a *FILM*.

By: anon2

anon2 — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:23:38 +0000

shame the judge didn’t also ask for the ‘evidence gathering’ methods used to be shown and the proof they had. would have shot them down even better. cant believe the accused person didn’t contest the license fee either.