There are some shows I would never have watched if it werent for torrents and now will quite happily go and buy on dvd when I have the money because a friend brought it to my attention via a torrent site, for example Firefly is awesome.

Same with movies, even if i know i can get a torrent of a new movie before its out, if it looks good id still rather see it at the cinema than download it straight away. The truth is the companies know that piracy can be helpful in advertising and promoting they’r product, thats why they go for the middle men – the torrent sites rather than the hosting sites – if they take down the hosting site the product loses some of its promotion. this way they can hold up they’r hands and say we’r fighting piracy while actually using it to promote themselves! the truth is the corporations are money hungry institutions wanting to make millions of profit, on products which cost barely anything to produce in comparison.

Before VHS/DVDs became cheap to make the money for production was made up from advertising and license fees. How come companies which have more advertising than at any time since tv became widely available, plus costing a monthly fee, still complains when someone copies the software onto their own hard drives? The majority of the cost for dvds goes into the packaging and the promotion, the actual dvd itself costs very little, and people downloading software arent getting the packaging and are still acknowledging the creator of the information. So how much are the companies really losing out on i ask you?

Long Live The Pirate Bay!!!

ok, rant over now. Pheww sorry about the length, guess iv been needing to get all that out for a while! lol

That’s why you see them going after torrent indexing sites (torrentspy, mininova, newtorrents) and sites with trackers (TPB, demonoid, etc).

The fact is, just because some torrents might infringe on copyrights, not all torrents do. I get all my linux distros LEGALLY from torrents.

Some people might like to take used plastic bags from the store and suffocate people with them, does that mean we must ban all plastic bags and arrest anyone merely in possesion of said bags?

Hell no.

This bogus copyright war is the same as the bogus war on drugs, the kingpins and suppliers and the ones making money are left almost completely alone. They instead bust the small time guys and users.

Why?

Simple. If you actually busted all the top scene groups and completely dismantled the scene, why would you get anymore funding to continue to fight the drug war, or copyright war?

It’s a self-sustaining cycle. The mpaa and other bastards NEED the scene, because it gives them a reason to be, and money in their pockets. If they actually cut it off at the head, they’d be out of a job.

Same with the companies that specialize in corrupting torrents and posting fake ones, if the problem was solved, they’d be out of business.

If you wanna bust torrent sites you better bust google and every other search engine, for a few reasons :

1. almost all search engines will return direct links to torrents if you search correctly.

2. since torrent indexing sites (sites without trackers) are “breaking the law” by providing access to copyright material, so are any search engines and they will return the sites in question , and like I said actual direct links to torrents in most cases.

Better also sue all the ISPs as they are facilitating the breaking of copyrights as the material is dispersed via their network (the internet).

Oh and don;t forget all the major hardware/software vendors aswell, without their hardware and software we couldn’t possibly break copyright laws.

It’s nice to see that someone can be convicted of manslaughter and get off with 2 years on jail and probation, while a very hardened and dangerous movie pirate can do 10 years for uploading a movie online before it’s official release.

It’s nice to see US politicians and law makers quoted as saying they should stop going after violent offenders and robbers, instead going after movie pirates.

Is anyone else at a loss for words over this? The measure for the degree of criminality to any given act is now how much money a corporation lost or says they lost?

Is uploading/downloading a movie that much worse than rape? Because if I’m convicted of rape, I will be better off than a copyright infringement record in today’s world.

They will never beat the pirate bay, simply can’t happen. They can try, maybe even force them to move the servers, but in the end, this sharing community will flourish.

Someone who I can properly quote said the scene, and torrents specifically, are like a Hydra.

You can cut off 1 head, and 2 grow in to replace it, there is no winning, only dignified losing. They fat bastards need to get with the times and stop trying to save a dying medium, it’s over, this is the digital age, get with it or take your seat beside the BetaMax VCR you all probably own.[/quote]

QFT

if you looked at the “laws” collectivly agreed apon by the UN, noone can “own” anything beyond earth, nobody can own the moon, mars, pluto, or an asteroid, and everyone is supposed to help each other out there, care and share and all that fun loving stuff.

i wish we could collonize mars allready……

Sure there is money in advertising. Don’t like it, use ad blocker. The difference is TPB is standing up for the freedom of people, the MP/RIAA are out to limit freedom for the sake of the bottom line. If TPB makes some money from it, they deserve it, regardless of their true motives.

The world needs a revolution.

[quote]“They try to rule the world any way the can think off.”

the good thing is, the are to dumd to get were there going….
[/quote]

This is how that should read, if you are literate :

They try to rule the world any way ‘THEY’ can think ‘OF’

the good thing is, ‘THEY’ are ‘TOO’ ‘DUMB’ to get ‘WHERE’ ‘THEY’RE’ going

If you are going to call an entire country of people dumb, or dumd, maybe learn to read and write at a first grade level first.

[quote comment="219644"]Americans are idiots, they try to rule the world any way the can think off. P2P, Music iraq, oil….. etc.

the good thing is, the are to dumd to get were there going….

P2P is here to stay…sorry.
Iraq…the US is there to stay.
and oil will be sold in euro’s

Good luck with your economy the next 10 years…[/quote]

Yes, exactly, so directing the anger at the people is pointless as it’s clear they are no longer at the wheel and haven’t been for awhile now.

No point in making this political, but it’s too easy to paint all americans with the same brush thanks to Bush, but it’s far from reality.

Bush was NOT elected, in either election. Any anger directed at the population should be over the fact that they’ve allowed this to happen and are doing next to nothing to reverse it.

But rweally it should show you where the US is really at. World terrorism, genocide, wars raging everywhere, and what have they spent their time and money fighting?

Piracy.

You have our full support!!!

Btw, everybody: please support the FSF legal found against the majors bullying!

PhishyBongwaters and LOLWUT

pirates for the fkn win !!!

Why do you want to know? As far as I know they don’t have one.

http://www.pastebin.ca/792493

But the government(selected by the people) is there to SERVE the PEOPLE, not the other way around, thats how democracy works, in its real definition

right now US is as close to a real democracy(ancient greece), as communist china to karl marx’s definition of socialism(witch would rock btw if exicuted properly

Very broad, and wrong, generalization. The american people, at least the majority of them, do not support any of their government’s recent actions.

The government is run by the corporations, direct your anger and hatred at the corporations, banks, and government, do not missplace it onto the american people.

The only crash is in your head…freak…Thepiratebay is fine…Have a nice day

http://torrentfreak.com//images/tpb.doc

I want to send my support to the Swedes also.

LOL! You’re right!

Secondly, my family is almost dirt broke from our REAL problems. What does the RIAA want us to do? Sell our house to buy music? Fat chance.

To quote a song I recently pirated, “It is still we… the people… right?”, if anyone can name the song, bonus points. However, no. It’s not we the people. It’s we the industry with the money.

The level of corruption is amazing. You can bet that the MAFIAA is paying top dollar to hackers, governments, and otherwise to stop us, but they still fail to realize that if you take out one, a hundred spring up to replace it.

Case in point: BOiNK and Waffles.cd.

If the pirate bay was taken down for good tomorrow, I think it fair to say that there would be a ton of indexing sites that would spring up to replace them.

That’s where the industry fails.

You take out one, more and more keep coming. The pirate bay itself is doing nothing more illegal than google (site:megaupload.com Metallica brings up a few results I enjoy).

The MAFIAA doesn’t scare me. They can sue me out of house and home, but even so I’ll just keep downloading and probably start distributing.

It’s soundwaves. It’s dumb to try to copyright something that doesn’t actually exist anyway. Why not copyright those broadcast signals shot into outerspace since the dawn of radio and sue the aliens?

Exactly: that’s stupid.

However, so is this. Every time they do something like this, more people start pirating in various ways, be it p2p like soulseek or just torrenting, but people don’t want scum like the MAFIAA to rule the world and their lives.

We’re not afraid, guys. You’re only destroying yourself, and need to realize it.

My 3100 songs would cost 2.25 million dollars at a $750 minimum per song, and at the $9250 charged elsewhere recently, 27 million dollars.

You’re crazy if you think I’m going to pay any of that. I’d rather do a year of jailtime and then immediately thereafter hit the pirate bay for some download-distribute fun!

Again, we’re not afraid.

the good thing is, the are to dumd to get were there going….

P2P is here to stay…sorry.
Iraq…the US is there to stay.
and oil will be sold in euro’s

Good luck with your economy the next 10 years…

This is the way of true freedom. The world should take note of the Swedes and look back at the oppression that the U.S.A stands for.

This is what democracy should ba all about.

Any Swedish people want to guide me on how to immigrate?

I’m not a big spender when it comes to cds or dvds (and never have been), but even though I download like crazy whenever I’m online I still spend the same amount on music and movies as I did back then, I’d even say it has grown a bit..And I pay more visits to the cinemas than ever.

The media companies should stop whining. They’ll make their money, even though the pirate-world has grown larger.. If they would only put down the prices a bit, I’d go crazy on dvd-shopping.. There’s nothing better than looking at a huge shelf full of good titles…

And some things just don’t feel good downloading… Fx, a tv-show that I really love is Scrubs, and even though the seasons, on dvd, are way behind the ones in tv (or on the net), I still can’t get myself to download the new seasons.. I sit and wait like a sheep outside the stores ’till the new seasons come out. And that’s not because I wanna support the makers of the show or anything..
I just want the whole collection standing on the shelf.. It looks nice :P

Anyway.. Lotta gibberish, have a good night! …and don’t let the mpaabugs bite.

Nah.. ? really? nah.. can’t be can it?

ive seen longer lol