Comments on: Artists See a Future With BitTorrent http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:34:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | Torrent Searcher News http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-508361 NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | Torrent Searcher News Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:40:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-508361 [...] The answer to this question is simple. If their goal is to make thousands of dollars from it, probably not. However, that is not what most artists intend to do. They want their music to be heard, create an audience and pick up some fans here and there. The people who download their music for free, and like it, are potentially the people who visit their gigs, buy merchandising, and tell their friends about this great band they discovered. Lesser known artists will never be able to generate a decent income from donations, but making their music available for free sure is part of a viable business model. [...] [...] The answer to this question is simple. If their goal is to make thousands of dollars from it, probably not. However, that is not what most artists intend to do. They want their music to be heard, create an audience and pick up some fans here and there. The people who download their music for free, and like it, are potentially the people who visit their gigs, buy merchandising, and tell their friends about this great band they discovered. Lesser known artists will never be able to generate a decent income from donations, but making their music available for free sure is part of a viable business model. [...]

]]> By: NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-508048 NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | TorrentFreak Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:53:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-508048 [...] a decent income from donations, but making their music available for free sure is part of a viable business model. Saved in: Hot Off The Press, P2P and Filesharing Tags: bittorrent, donations, music, p2p, [...] [...] a decent income from donations, but making their music available for free sure is part of a viable business model. Saved in: Hot Off The Press, P2P and Filesharing Tags: bittorrent, donations, music, p2p, [...]

]]> By: spudz.org » Blog Archive » Artists See a Future With BitTorrent http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-506158 spudz.org » Blog Archive » Artists See a Future With BitTorrent Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:07:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-506158 [...] Read More Here from torrentfreak.com [...] [...] Read More Here from torrentfreak.com [...]

]]> By: The Pragmatic & CMJ - RAC http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-505872 The Pragmatic & CMJ - RAC Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:59:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-505872 [...] did a short interview w/ torrentfreak.com about file-sharing and it’s role with the current music scene. Check it out [...] [...] did a short interview w/ torrentfreak.com about file-sharing and it’s role with the current music scene. Check it out [...]

]]> By: Dan http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-505281 Dan Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:49:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-505281 I know I uploaded my ebook into mininova last night, and I could not be happier with the response it has gotten, while it might not equate to better sales, what does make me very happy is that it is being downloaded in Africa and in impoverished countries. That would so be my personal good deed for the day if it helps lift one person out of poverty, and helps them understand ecommerce a little bit better. Frankly, as an author, I am just overjoyed at the response the book has gotten with almost 1000 downloads in the last 19 hours. Great response, global distribution network, chance to change someones life, it was good of my publisher to recommend giving the book away for free to see what happens. Thanks to mininova too for offering a free CDN and an easy way for an author/artist to upload their stuff. Why did I do this? I have the book free on my book's web site that gets 25 people a day, I sell one book a day on average, I have already beaten the odds for a self published book, and I have another book coming out that I want to focus on, this was also the best way I could think of to also get feedback from the users. Hope that helps anyone who is thinking of doing the same thing. I personally could not be happier with my experience. I know I uploaded my ebook into mininova last night, and I could not be happier with the response it has gotten, while it might not equate to better sales, what does make me very happy is that it is being downloaded in Africa and in impoverished countries.

That would so be my personal good deed for the day if it helps lift one person out of poverty, and helps them understand ecommerce a little bit better.

Frankly, as an author, I am just overjoyed at the response the book has gotten with almost 1000 downloads in the last 19 hours. Great response, global distribution network, chance to change someones life, it was good of my publisher to recommend giving the book away for free to see what happens.

Thanks to mininova too for offering a free CDN and an easy way for an author/artist to upload their stuff.

Why did I do this? I have the book free on my book’s web site that gets 25 people a day, I sell one book a day on average, I have already beaten the odds for a self published book, and I have another book coming out that I want to focus on, this was also the best way I could think of to also get feedback from the users.

Hope that helps anyone who is thinking of doing the same thing. I personally could not be happier with my experience.

]]> By: Xihilisk http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-505031 Xihilisk Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:14:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-505031 And CREED, in response to your comment, some musicians don't care about money. We work for a living like everyone else and make music in our spare time. If you loved your music enough, the only reward you would actively seek for it is the fact that people are listening to it and liking it, not that they're willing to pay for it. And CREED, in response to your comment, some musicians don’t care about money. We work for a living like everyone else and make music in our spare time.
If you loved your music enough, the only reward you would actively seek for it is the fact that people are listening to it and liking it, not that they’re willing to pay for it.

]]> By: Xihilisk http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-505027 Xihilisk Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:08:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-505027 I organised The What CD and The What CD Volume 2 is landing very soon, so keep an eye out.! This time we've had more submissions and an even higher quality of tracks, so the next one will be even better. I organised The What CD and The What CD Volume 2 is landing very soon, so keep an eye out.!
This time we’ve had more submissions and an even higher quality of tracks, so the next one will be even better.

]]> By: caleb120 http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504792 caleb120 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:31:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504792 W00t!!! I'm on the what CD! The Annual Falling - Rise and Shine. W00t!!! I’m on the what CD! The Annual Falling – Rise and Shine.

]]> By: Byte Into It - 15 Oct 08 « Byte Into It - Computing and new technology http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504765 Byte Into It - 15 Oct 08 « Byte Into It - Computing and new technology Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:38:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504765 [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent | TorrentFreak Giving away music for free might not sound like a very solid business model to most people, but it is. Most artists make most money from concerts and merchandise, not so much album sales. Even more so, the key to success are the fans, and what better way to introduce people to your music by giving it away for free? [...] [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent | TorrentFreak Giving away music for free might not sound like a very solid business model to most people, but it is. Most artists make most money from concerts and merchandise, not so much album sales. Even more so, the key to success are the fans, and what better way to introduce people to your music by giving it away for free? [...]

]]> By: Blogroll » Celebrating free culture and music: the What CD http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504718 Blogroll » Celebrating free culture and music: the What CD Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:21:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504718 [...] Here is some context, from TorrentFreak: [...] [...] Here is some context, from TorrentFreak: [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-10-14 | Nerdcore http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504595 links for 2008-10-14 | Nerdcore Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:35:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504595 [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent | TorrentFreak (tags: copyright free bittorrent p2p musikindustrie) [...] [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent | TorrentFreak (tags: copyright free bittorrent p2p musikindustrie) [...]

]]> By: PolkaRobot | Blog Archiv » Lesezeichen vom 14-10-2008 http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504571 PolkaRobot | Blog Archiv » Lesezeichen vom 14-10-2008 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:35:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504571 [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent "The music industry is changing. While the record labels are desperately trying to protect the revenue stream from album sales, a new generation of artists is starting to realize that they are better off when they give away their music for free. By now, we’re all familiar with the industry’s view, but what drives these artists?" (Tags: via:mento.info copyright bittorrent free music polkarobot) [...] [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent "The music industry is changing. While the record labels are desperately trying to protect the revenue stream from album sales, a new generation of artists is starting to realize that they are better off when they give away their music for free. By now, we’re all familiar with the industry’s view, but what drives these artists?" (Tags: via:mento.info copyright bittorrent free music polkarobot) [...]

]]> By: Artists See a Future With BitTorrent « Internet Making Money http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504534 Artists See a Future With BitTorrent « Internet Making Money Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:51:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504534 [...] Read the full story here:http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/ [...] [...] Read the full story here:http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/ [...]

]]> By: The Hideout TechBlog » Post Topic » Artists See a Future With BitTorrent http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504464 The Hideout TechBlog » Post Topic » Artists See a Future With BitTorrent Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:28:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504464 [...] The music industry is changing. While the record labels are desperately trying to protect the revenue stream from album sales, a new generation of artists is starting to realize that they are better off when they give away their music for free. By now, we’re all familiar with the industry’s view, but what drives these artists? more… [...] [...] The music industry is changing. While the record labels are desperately trying to protect the revenue stream from album sales, a new generation of artists is starting to realize that they are better off when they give away their music for free. By now, we’re all familiar with the industry’s view, but what drives these artists? more… [...]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Celebrating free culture and music: the What CD http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504442 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Celebrating free culture and music: the What CD Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:21:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504442 [...] Here is some context, from TorrentFreak: [...] [...] Here is some context, from TorrentFreak: [...]

]]> By: State O’ The Music Industry | Marco Raaphorst http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504426 State O’ The Music Industry | Marco Raaphorst Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:21:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504426 [...] over het gratis weggeven van muziek Lees ‘Artists See a Future With BitTorrent’ en je zult snappen dat het gratis weggeven van muziek voor bands en musici dé manier is om te [...] [...] over het gratis weggeven van muziek Lees ‘Artists See a Future With BitTorrent’ en je zult snappen dat het gratis weggeven van muziek voor bands en musici dé manier is om te [...]

]]> By: Experiments with torrents - A Song A Day http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504421 Experiments with torrents - A Song A Day Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:54:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504421 [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent [...] [...] Artists See a Future With BitTorrent [...]

]]> By: CREED http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504382 CREED Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:47:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504382 I wanna become a musician later myself but I'm kinda worried cuz as much as I want people to listen to my music I think giving it away for free won't pay any rent or anything and as mentioned before, just touring sometimes does not even make a good profit. In fact, most big tours are mostly a losing deal to the actual presenting company, for example Mark Tremonti of Alter Bridge (ex CREED) has always stated that they lose money on tour and that all he ever wants is just to come even, cuz he has to finance a lot out of his own pocket with the money from back in the days with CREED. Last but not least who wants to see the ticket prizes for a show go up and up and up cuz it's the only way left for a record/promotion-company to make a bug... I think just giving your music away for free is not the final solution. One idea of my mine was, to create a download portal (probably run by the copyright owner, so the musician himself) with a ratio-system like on a private tracker, where you balance the amount of downloading with money. So you can download a record and if you don't like it you don't have to pay for it. And when you've found one that you really liked you pay a little bit more to support your favourite act. The ratio system should then prevent abusing of this with deleting those with a ration below ... let's say 0.85 or something similar. Anyway just giving it away for free can't be good for a final solution because only balance makes things work out and that is no balance, it wouldn't be fair for the musicians. greetz CREED0R I wanna become a musician later myself but I’m kinda worried cuz as much as I want people to listen to my music I think giving it away for free won’t pay any rent or anything and as mentioned before, just touring sometimes does not even make a good profit. In fact, most big tours are mostly a losing deal to the actual presenting company, for example Mark Tremonti of Alter Bridge (ex CREED) has always stated that they lose money on tour and that all he ever wants is just to come even, cuz he has to finance a lot out of his own pocket with the money from back in the days with CREED.

Last but not least who wants to see the ticket prizes for a show go up and up and up cuz it’s the only way left for a record/promotion-company to make a bug…
I think just giving your music away for free is not the final solution.
One idea of my mine was, to create a download portal (probably run by the copyright owner, so the musician himself) with a ratio-system like on a private tracker, where you balance the amount of downloading with money. So you can download a record and if you don’t like it you don’t have to pay for it. And when you’ve found one that you really liked you pay a little bit more to support your favourite act. The ratio system should then prevent abusing of this with deleting those with a ration below … let’s say 0.85 or something similar.

Anyway just giving it away for free can’t be good for a final solution because only balance makes things work out and that is no balance, it wouldn’t be fair for the musicians.

greetz CREED0R

]]> By: umm http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504368 umm Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:33:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504368 What about the netlabels? Has nobody heard of them or something! There are plenty that put out free music for the masses to download. What about the netlabels? Has nobody heard of them or something! There are plenty that put out free music for the masses to download.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/artists-see-a-future-with-bittorrent-081013/#comment-504363 Anonymous Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:06:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5569#comment-504363 J-jax these thieves don't want to listen to any logical reasoning so don't be surprised when your comment is completely ignored. and this quote from some other guy: "if you are not on the file sharing networks then you are a nobody" ...is the most blatantly IRONIC comment i've yet to see on torrentfreak.com J-jax these thieves don’t want to listen to any logical reasoning so don’t be surprised when your comment is completely ignored.

and this quote from some other guy:

“if you are not on the file sharing networks then you are a nobody”

…is the most blatantly IRONIC comment i’ve yet to see on torrentfreak.com

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