Really, they get big guns, we get bigger guns. They get stupid and hand us RFID-tagged tickets, we reprogram those tickets to read ‘GTFO Mickey’ or whatnot.
It really boils down to this: Trust.
Have some.

Boycott theaters.

What are you Einsteins going to do when the pirates get smart enough to turn their recordings to MONO so you have to arrest the entire ROW of viewers?

Not only is this scheme technically easy to bypass its impossible to enforce. Are you going to start asking for contact information of your viewers in case the pirates are smart enough to use CASH to pay for their movies?

I have not been to the movies in many years because of the overpriced concessions, inability to use the bathroom without missing parts of the movie, rude noisy patrons and dirty theaters. This is just ONE MORE reason for me to stay the heck away from the movies even if there is a movie I want to see. I’m glad I am missing the strip searches and other invasions of privacy coming down the pipes.

These theaters are either run for fun, or the staff is too busy trying to make a profit.

Here are audio samples of the watermarks, as well as the relevant patent:

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Files included:

DTS Audio Watermarking in Movies (Gothika sample) (amplified).mp3
DTS Audio Watermarking in Movies (Gothika sample) [Sonogram 2].jpg
DTS Audio Watermarking in Movies (Gothika sample) [Sonogram].jpg
DTS Audio Watermarking in Movies (Gothika sample).mp3
DTS To Introduce Security Enhancements For Cinema Audio Content Protection.txt
Method and apparatus for determining digital AV content distribution terms (DTS) [US Patent 7124114].pdf
Same clip in SRD (Dolby) [no apparent watermarking].mp3

Americans only love mcdonalds and oil money

You can get a ton of people into a movie with just 2 tickets:

Buy 2 tickets, and 2 people go in find seats, then one person goes back outside with both stubs and hands off one off to a 3rd person..

just flash the stub and say you were already inside and just went out for a smoke or to make a phone call. Usually best to not re-enter together. Repeat as many times as necessary.

It doesn’t always work if its really slow and there’s only 1 guy taking the tickets all night, but most places you can get several people in no problem as long as its a little busy. Just don’t try to sneak 10 people into a sold out show – paying customers get pissed when all the seats are taken lol

F**K ‘em!

#1 Rule of business: Don’t screw with your customers.

I don’t think they are listening.

Are their cameras so good that they can pinpoint the exact moment that an exact individual brushes past the wall on the way in or out?

Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, fuckers.

They’d be better off wearing cut-off t-shirts & winkle pickers and taking it up the botty like good little boys. It’s either that or get caught & being dragged through a ridiculous court case and getting sent to prison for 68 years then getting raped 8-254 times a day by mister I’ve-killed-308-prostitutes-with-my-bare-hamster’s-penis-gorilla-man.

This is also why changing the speed of playback wouldn’t work. You still identify the mean, you KNOW the rate of modulation, so it’s cake to find what’s changed.

Again, the solution would be to introduce a constant destructive or constructive modulation to the audio track the same way the MPAA is trying to, possibly making it spell out “F*** THE MPAA” in morse code.

Beyond all that, what good could it possibly be to know where a cammer WAS? Are they expected to use the same seat every time? Unless there’s some way of detecting the EM interference of the recorder and conforming that to a pattern matching system, which there ISN’T unless they put everyone in some kind of magnetic cage or something, it does absolutely no good.

Oh, and to post #8… You are required under US law to give your proper name and identification to any law enforcement agency on request once they identify themselves as such. It is a crime to hide your identity from the police for the very reasons you cite. However, there IS an exemption for diminished capacity or mental illness, so maybe you have amnesia or something…

The change in speed wont be noticeable to those who watch, but the slight change in frequency would likely get around their audio watermarking, or at least confuse it.

Heres why I think so:

Have you ever tried to upload a copyrighted song to MySpace only to have the ban you almost instantly? Like how did they know it was a copyrighted song?

Well I dont know the exact answer to that BUT i do know that if you put the song/mp3/whatever into an audio editing program and speed it up or slow it down SLIGHTLY, then upload it to MySpace, their filter wont catch it!

So thats my guess on a quick workaround for these sonic watermarks

This will not work for a few reasons:

1. Hahahaha, good luck enforcing this stuff in an actual theatre setting. Its hard enough worrying about making fresh popcorn in a workplace like that, so having to log and maintain all the guests in theatre, make sure they are in the correct seat etc etc would require such a large staff than theatres already hire, ticket prices would SKY ROCKET more than they already have.

2. Since tickets would be so high to pay for the staff people would stop going. After realizing that they going to the movies is now like getting on an airplane, people will stop going.

3. Pirates will find a way around these rules, especially since they seem so hard to enforce.

4. Its hard enough getting people to decide what movie they want to see so you can help the next customer in line who is running late to their movie…and now you have to collect their ID information? Gimmie a break…

… it will never work

A preposterous scare tactic. Film in mono.

Your cell also emits a bluetooth serial number, possibly a WiFi MAC address. Radio emitters can be very easily located in space.

Then there’s also RFID.

No need to tell anyone your name. Your credit card/cell phone/gameboy have enough radio in them to tell on you. And some camcorders are now having bluetooth built in for ease of uploading.

Oh, and the watermark signal needs not be embedded in the film. The theatre could easily be equipped with a few extra low-power speakers putting out just imperceptible white-noise.

Most of this tech would be very unintrusive.

I’m pretty sure that they are breaking laws when they do this.

They would have to state that they do these intrusive searches on their web site and offer full refunds to anyone that has bought tickets but doesnt wanna be groped….

I wonder what they would do with a guy in a metal wheel chair…or in crutches…or a metal hip.

Let everyone skip cinema for couple of months, that should create some stir in Hollywood.

Seriously i would rip your head off and piss down your throat if you were to check my bag or treat me with suspicion in the cinema. Cinema is the place of rest, a place where I want to go out with my wife, watch a movie have a kiss.

I don’t consider my self well behaved so I am already sorry for the dude that I would spot steering at me in dark corner of movie theater with goggles on.

@112 – Bluray setup = approx $3000 with everything?

You forget that not having to sit with a bunch of obnoxious, smelly, baby-crying, teenager BS, people talking, Sticky floor, dirty seat theatre = Priceless.

@102 of course the watermark can be obfuscated to protect the identity of the cammer. these measures will not prevent unauthorized recordings; it will significantly decrease them.