Comments on: Australian Internet Filter Will Target BitTorrent Traffic

By: Old Rubberlegs

Old Rubberlegs — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:15:34 +0000

That's odd… Everyone in the U.S. seems to think that government is on *our* side with regard to bandwith shaping matters. Maybe the plan is to make sure that only honest, uncorruptable people are always elected to office, for ever and ever and ever. I hope that's not unrealistic.

By: Tom Ryan

Tom Ryan — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:08:54 +0000

Seems like Hitler now lives in Australia.
"We will now tell you what you can and cannot do on the internet."
HIEL HITLER!

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Australian Web and BitTorrent Filtering Scheme Delayed | IDTorrent Blog — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:12:27 +0000

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By: JimJim

JimJim — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:07:19 +0000

“Promoting a civil and confident society online”, claims Australian Broadband Minister Stephen Conroy.

Meaning 'promoting a subdued and compliant society'.

The filtering scheme has many dissenters, including the chief of one of Australia’s largest ISPs, iiNet, who called it “ridiculous“, and branded Stephen Conroy “the worst Communications Minister we’ve had in the 15 years since the [Internet] industry has existed.”

And that is saying something, as Australia has had a long run of truly shitty communications ministers. I did not think anybody could be worse than that rabid idiot Richard Alston, but…

By: JimJim

JimJim — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:02:29 +0000

Brother, have you got some growing up to do.

By: JimJim

JimJim — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:53:19 +0000

Definitely not. The substantial majority are opposed to it.

By: JimJim

JimJim — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:52:31 +0000

TOR is no good for P2P, it does not have the bandwidth. In fact too many people use it to peer, it will render TOR useless.

By: JimJim

JimJim — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:50:38 +0000

Yep, anybody who thinks the conservative coalition parties will be any better is seriously kidding themselves. Both mainstream parties are up to their necks in cosy little relationships with the corporate world. The only reason the conservatives did not introduce this stuff when in government was because they accepted the technical advice that it could not be done effectively (or even at all). But make no mistake, they would be wetting their pants with excitement if effective filtering technology ever became available, and would not hesitate to implement and abuse it. Conservatives are as obsessed with controlling the population as anybody, their current and very convenient claims to be defenders of free speech notwithstanding.

By: polkat

polkat — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:52:39 +0000

Kevin Rudd and Stephen Conroy have to be killed, kill them now.

I urger all terrorists to target and kill these idiots. KILL THEM NOW THE CUNTS !!!!!!!!!!

By: name

name — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:27:34 +0000

Those australian guys are stupid?!

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Aussie ‘Doctor Who’ Fans Set to Time Travel With BitTorrent « Tech Blog — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:01:30 +0000

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By: Stephen Conroy

Stephen Conroy — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:30:22 +0000

We are all in recognition of Roses stupidity?
great!!

The internet filter is flawed.
The only fear should be that it will infect other countries also.
If all are infected with this, then we have limited shadow to "play".
Aussie "enthusiasts" are standing frontline, but can only ward off the dogs for soo long.

Dont be blind peeps, cause even if youre on the otherside of the world, you should know that change is only an "1C 00" away ;)

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Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:13:17 +0000

By: david hollis

david hollis — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:19:29 +0000

The elephant in the room is the fact the government has men with guns and cages waiting for those who stand against them.The fundamentalist christian lobby is simply using this power to further their own agenda.If you had no government you would have nothing in place that could lead to tyranny of this magnitude.

Dave the christian anarchist.

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Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:18:50 +0000

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By: Panicnic

Panicnic — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:27:14 +0000

Except they are not in court for this reason – they are in court because they refuse to hand over the information to the American distributors – they have however stated that they are willing to hand over the names/addresses to the police. It's called the Privacy Act for a reason, and it would be illegal for Iinet to hand over this information.

By: Roze

Roze — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:11:57 +0000

Protests are not effective only because they are not well-thought-out. A good protest can be effective. Moreover, even if it is not, at least the token effort counts.

By: arrogance01

arrogance01 — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:59:46 +0000

lol. you're all in fear as you'll have to go back to the 'good ol days' of actually buying cds, dvds, software, resources etc.

By: Roze

Roze — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:14:53 +0000

Indeed, that is what government is for. If one disagrees with laws, one ought to do things to get the law changed. At least in a democratic government, of course, which Australia definitely is. Thus, the way to get laws changed is to get the popular will to want it changed. To say that industries somehow have an undemocratic amount of power is just a crazy conspiracy theory, and is exactly what the industry wants us to think, since it is essentially giving up our democratic rights.

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The Technology Blog: Australian Internet Filter Will Target BitTorrent Traffic — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:41:47 +0000

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By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:48:11 +0000

You forget that the people are the most powerful element in a democratic state, which Australia definitely is. iiNet can only do so much, because they are simply a business. Only the opinion of the masses of people can really do anything effective.

By: jacob

jacob — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:37:01 +0000

Right so now they want to stop bit torrent because its for the people's good. So they're going to protect people from bit torrent now because we can't handle it. Next they will be doing the voting for the Aussies. I mean theyr'e already disiding what is right and , and what is wrong and they are in the process of removing and or limiting peoples freedom of speach online. The australian government has gone to far I say. Taking peoples freedom of speach and sqaushing their rights is wrong!

Australia has a labour government. Whenever a labor government gets in power they make such a mess of things. All the labor governments do is waste tax payer money, and steal our rights from us. Left wing politicians are complete imbeciles. They are a disgrace to the idea of left and right wing governments. Left wing politicians aren't even communists. Oh no i know they try but they end up squashing peoples rights and making corporates rich. The left wing politicians are disgraceful. They dont stand for the people. All the left wing politicians think they have the right to decide what is and isnt, but they dont, they think they can control our lives but they can't. Australia needs to get a real government.

REVOLT! RIOT! REVOLOUTIONISE!!!!

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:34:17 +0000

what a joke as an australian i can clearly say that this is really fuc*ed mate. hopefully iinet can convince them after this trial that this is not going to work. __________________________ http://tinyurl.com/4rdhmc

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Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:26:20 +0000

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By: Miss P

Miss P — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:00:22 +0000

Frankly this is outrageous. How dare the ALP do this … Though I am told by my geeky friends that we can get around it and I can assure Conroy we will.

By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:49:21 +0000

My questions remain the same with filtering. How does a filter tell a secure packet transmission is HTTP or BitTorrent? Is there some easily accessible information in the envelope? If I change my HTTPS and BT ports to then how would the filter know what I was transmitting? I should look this stuff up I suppose. In fact I will do that now.

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:42:10 +0000

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By: Cerberus

Cerberus — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:18:14 +0000

you really think anyone is going to listen to iinet when they are in the court process for letting people download illegal content?

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:11:22 +0000

solved only until they ban (and block, at the ISP level) private use of VPN's.

[they'll allow corporate use of course, after all, they don't want to piss off their mates in big business.]

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:07:06 +0000

Many of the commercially-available filtering products can filter HTTPS via man-in-the-middle techniques. This typically involves forcing installation of a certificate that the user's browser considers valid upon the user. Normally these tools are used in corporate networks, where this isn't difficult (e.g. on Windows it can just be set using group policy via active directory). In the govt. filter scenario they would probably require everyone to accept the cert when it's presented to them the first time if they want to continue using SSL.

Of course this opens a security hole so large you could fly the Enterprise through sideways, but the govt knows it's worth it since it may possibly one day perhaps prevent one kiddy somewhere sometime from accidentally maybe seeing someone's tits – something which as we all know can turn ordinary children into future axe-murderers.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:56:02 +0000

Nope. Under Australian law, a member of parliament can say ANYTHING – provided it is said inside parliament – with zero risk of a lawsuit. They can say that you eat babies for breakfast if they like, and there's absolutely zero legal recourse for you. This is called 'parliamentary privilege', and It can be and has been abused – even to the point (in one particular well-known case in Western Australia) of pushing a person to suicide due to false claims made under such 'privilege'.

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:53:16 +0000

Ok, I sort of worked out you were delusional from the first line of the first post when you described posters here as savvy and intelligent and then compared the US to Nazi Germany but thanks for posting the second time and confirming it ;) …

Of course you and a few select others are the only ones smart enough to know this is coming I suppose and I'm an agent of the US government posting here to persude people that your claims are batshit crazy as well.

ROFL.

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:46:12 +0000

That's because the term "MAFIAA Getapo" is a term that you made to be as emotive as possible and to get attention for yourself.

And why don't you avail yourself of facts before posting crap – I know it's hard for you resist spouting whatever comes into your head: on 12th of December there were rallies held at the House of Parliment in every capital city in Australia to protest against this law. As I attended I have done more than you do to support you're beliefs that you write about here. That's according to your previous posts.

As I have said before: spouting rubbish here is meaningless and pointless if you're not prepared to take action in the real world to uphold your viewpoint and effect change. As you have said you don't do anything other than post here you achieve nothing towards your ends – in other words you'd rather post a whole bunch of vitriolic crap here and that's enough for you to feel as though you've contributed to changing the world. Which you haven't unless you refuse to acknowledge reality which I can easily imagine you would based on your other posts.

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By: gss

gss — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:11:51 +0000

Know why? Coming soon in 2009 or 2010, they are planning on implementing a device in the households of many americans that will direct silent sound waves into the brains and silently brainwash the masses. They call it "digital tv" and it is digital TV but one part of the bandwidth will be used for subconscious brainwashing. It's silent and people won't even hear it. This is the kind of thing that would have allowed Hitler to silently take over the entire world without even firing a shot and it's quietly going to be going into use soon and it's probably coming to your country as well. Unplug your TV if you know what is good for you and don't bring any digital converter boxes into your house. Turn the radio off too.

By: gss

gss — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:11:12 +0000

And for such a savvy, intelligent group of people, I'm amazed to hear things like, "…the US will have to come save us from these tyrants…"….hello, the people that want to take away your freedom are from the USA and are working together with the US Govt and US corporations to do that. Don't you understand that? Did you not hear the news ? These guys just killed Mike Connell. The US Govt is full of murderers. They are worst than the Nazi party in Germany because many people don't even see them coming. These guys are so good that it would make Hitler drool with envy.

By: gss

gss — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:09:48 +0000

They are using your own hang-ups against you. What's wrong with completely uncensored internet? What's wrong with being allowed to view any kind of video that you choose? Don't you realize that they are using your hang-ups about cp against you? This child porn debate gets their foot in the door and that's all they need to take away all your other freedoms. How about not letting them get their foot in the door in the first place?

By: skip-e

skip-e — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:18:06 +0000

Here's the real motivation behind this Orwellian bulls**t:

"Rudd seeks church role in politics"
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/10/01/1159641…

By: yeahhim

yeahhim — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:09:31 +0000

at least on the bright side this will be so poorly planned and implemented that it should easy to get around

By: Rudd sucks cock

Rudd sucks cock — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:09:31 +0000

Well done to all that voted Kevin Rudd in!
He is a fucking idiot and so are all the idiots that voted him in.

By: Roze is retarded

Roze is retarded — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:07:31 +0000

are you fucking retarded. the MAFIAA is AMERICAN.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Australia or any other country besides USA
so shut the fuck up.

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By: pipsqeek

pipsqeek — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:22:54 +0000

If this happens, how am I suppose to download my linux iso's quickly?

By: Elias

Elias — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:17:55 +0000

We should be able to call our ISP and ask them to turn the filter on/off accordingly, instead of turning it on for everyone.
For example, the account holder (must be 18+ anyways) has the ability to turn it on/off according to their needs. That means if a household does not have any under 18's they wont need the filter.

By: Anon

Anon — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:13:35 +0000

What happened to parents protecting their children from sensitive stuff. This was all an excuse to censor the internet. FUCK MR CONROY.

By: Wild Bill

Wild Bill — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:47:10 +0000

Wouldn't calling those opposed a group of child porn advocates be grounds for a class action slander law suit?

By: SadAussie

SadAussie — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:41:42 +0000

Come to Australia and tell me how powerful our government makes you feel.

We have two more years left before we can vote these fuckers out, and the primary alternative is really no better (if not worse). All we can do is protest – and we all know how well THAT works these days.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:33:23 +0000

“democratic state, which Australia definitely is”

wasn’t it in australia where some dude got raided + arrested for putting a video where some circus guy swings a laughing child around on youtube because that’s child abuse. and another one got convicted for owning simpsons pr0n … you’re going down so fast australia = / next thing all simpsons episode where they don’t have their seatbelts on are prohibited.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:30:28 +0000

I'm pretty sure it's impossible to filter P2P Network traffic. They can close down ports (which we'll remap), but how the hell are they gonna tell which content in which codec or format in a zip file that's encrypted in 128bits is good or bad?

This is a pipe dream, if it works it'll be a flash in a pan and we will figure out how to get around it in hours. Who are they trying to kid, really??