Australian ISP’s wont throttle BitTorrent traffic
Written by Ernesto on February 20, 2006Good news for the Australian BitTorrent fans. Three of Australia’s largest internet providers say they are not limiting BitTorrent traffic on their networks (like others do) and have no immediate plans to impose restrictions on the BitTorrent and other p2p traffic.
According to The Australian, Broadband customers of Australia’s largest ISPs can use peer-to-peer file-sharing services such as BitTorrent and Kazaa without being throttled by their ISP.
Pretty funny that they mention Kazaa
The Chinese and Canadians on the other hand are less lucky. Rogers, Shaw and more recently China Tietong and Nanjing Telecom are actively throttling BitTorrent traffic.
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Well im not canadian im not an aussie so it dont matter to me and as for china they should worry about the google throttling still imagine if isp’s all over start this throttling crap doesnt matter were you are every peer seed counts i say :-) Though i think azureus and utorrent use a new method of encryption to get around throttling though its not perfect yet as one person wrote the geeks will always win.
Well, I live and Aus and I was abit concerned some Aus ISP’s might adopt the idea of throttling BT traffic, but now I know they have no plans to I feel relieved :D
I don’t live in any of the countrys named above but I am concerned about whether any of the ISP’s will start to do the same in the U.K….. hope not !!!!
That’s such a relief. I live in Aus and I think it’s great. Means we can seed faster too :-)
I’m very glad to hear that. Considering the huge amount of legal uses of bittorrent, I think it is terrible that some ISP’s are blocking it.
I don’t use either of those ISP’s, I have avoided them largely because of being afraid of things like shaping which I assumed the larger ISPs would be more prone to, so this is a great thing to hear.
Yup, this is great to hear. As a Telstra(Bigpond) client, I was kind of wondering when they would start coming down on filesharing, but up until now, it’s been great(aside from the 128 KB upstream on cable connection, but the downstream of 3Mb is great, until ADSL2 gets up and starts supporting some local nodes. For me sharing my home made cruising movies that I made with others in my car club, that is great. Now if I could only convince them to not count traffic inbetween users of that ISP. Then THAT would be great.
As an Aussie living in China I can tell you I get insane rates on bittorent here (often 300Kbps combined rate)… but I do think individual streams may be throttled. THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE WONT STOP BOOM BOOM yeah whatever
Australia will follow the USA if uncle George requests it. Im from Aus and it is our national political past-time, but it is good to hear that there are no immediate plans, however it has obviously been considered. Currently it is more financially beneficial to offer ‘high’ download speeds and allowances as these power users are often p2p/BT users, when the threat of legal ramifications outweigh this lure, the ISP’s will buckle..
Why would ISPs throttle BT? Do you know how ISPs work here? Every extra byte is more money to them. There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.
I have the same thoughts as ant, though my country at the moment do not throttle p2p traffic. Im afraid in the future many isp would adopt the same practice in throttling. That would be really bad.
Well that’s great for us aussies except the fact that highspeed internet is not available everywhere in australia, im still stuck with dial-up internet. lol
RE: There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.
By Mooya on 02.22.06 4:18 pm
What utter Bullshit.
I just sold my ISP, (”Perthinternet.com”) and we were 100% unlimited. We had members ulling 250Gigs a month!
Don’t know what will happen now (I think it is only limited plans, but don’t know) but I just had to correct the bullshit that was written..
Most torrent traffic starts and ends in the USA and the scale of economy is different, with local costs being expensive. It is bandwith that costs so much.
I agree Most mayor companies eg Netspace optus n telstra ive got 256k :( unlimted but its limited to 15GB i got ova that in 2 days and im ment to have 56k for the rest of the month i might switch with aapt 512k unlimted for 50$ thats what im pying now for 256k well i cant wait for this new version for my torrents
RE: There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.
By Mooya on 02.22.06 4:18 pm
What utter Bullshit.
I just sold my ISP, (”Perthinternet.com”) and we were 100% unlimited. We had members ulling 250Gigs a month!
Don’t know what will happen now (I think it is only limited plans, but don’t know) but I just had to correct the bullshit that was written..
Most torrent traffic starts and ends in the USA and the scale of economy is different, with local costs being expensive. It is bandwith that costs so much.
Yeah thanks for leaving us in a lurch David. Amcom have started shaping the old “Unlimited” accounts on the sly.
I have now since moved to a better ISP.
Australias ISPs ARE starting to throttle torrents see here:
http://www.whirlpool.net.au/
Both Exetel and RIA in Australia have shaped P2P. :(
RE: There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.
By Mooya on 02.22.06 4:18 pm
Dodo does completely suck in the service dept but I’ve had an Unlimited 512/128 ADSL with them for years and it IS unlimited. It doesn’t matter if I dl 10Mb or 50Gb a month, the $49/m stays the same. The unlimited deal isn’t always obvious but it’s there!
Regarding shaping: These bastidges are getting paid plenty compared to what they provide in return so if they start buggerising around with the speed of data streams they will only encourage smarter/newer file-sharing and the non-shaping ISPs will get all the business. Will they also decide to shape the speeds of porn sites, music sites, footy teams they don’t like, political parties, ad-servers? Will we really allow the music industry to become the Net God? I don’t think so.
Where do they get this idea that ‘file-shared’ data is free/pirated? We overpay for our PCs, ISPs, electricity and spend some serious life on downloading stuff. Where does the FREE come into it? As I see it - we all pay more than enough!
And did I mention that Dodo’s service SUCKS?
if you use a seed box or torrent hosting service you can download through ftp and no isp will no what the traffic is and it will seed for you without wasting your bandwidth
ok…so how do you get the box or the hosting sevice…I look all over the web and found 2 and they are down…so any legit live service would be nice
[quote comment="858"]Why would ISPs throttle BT? Do you know how ISPs work here? Every extra byte is more money to them. There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.[/quote]
actually im in australia and i have an unlimited adsl account and i dont get throttled maybe you should check out http://www.shiftreload.com.au
You know, there is only one way of killing the internet companies ban on bit torrent. either tunnel, or better by far set a bunch of wide band networks with gigabit lines running between the neighborhoods and then the hell with the local cables modems. because of this, the big internet companies with lots of competition will not be doing this in the big city’s . And with the cost of big connection Technology’s dropping to the ground daily, It is a matter of time that the internet providers well will run dry if they do not comply with what the mass public wants. Consumer grade devises can give coverage to areas that are quite impressive. Canada could do the same. Just imagine a fellow setting up some cable (in this case cheap ass telephone cable that the local tele company is no longer using, or hell just buy your own bulk! and wire the whole neighborhood. if you burry the cable, GIGABIT BABY~!@
australisit.net makes my cyber/torrent life alot easier. 40gig pm for $60 on a ADSL 1500/256. mate, you cant beat that price in Melbourne (the move liviable city in the world) as for the roll-out of uber-speed, all i can say is; The sooner it happens the faster we can move on with better things like a teleportational devide to get us all off this dying planet. =8Þ excuse the typo.
Unisky operating in Caboolture, Brisbane Australia limit there users bit-torrent uploads.
WARNING ALL USERS OF THEIR SERVICE!!!
[quote comment="858"]Why would ISPs throttle BT? Do you know how ISPs work here? Every extra byte is more money to them. There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.[/quote]
Not true. Soul is a national ISP, has a true unlimited broadband plan, and quite cheap thx
[quote comment="168863"][quote comment="858"]Why would ISPs throttle BT? Do you know how ISPs work here? Every extra byte is more money to them. There are NO unlimited plans for ADSL. You either pay for DLs over a monthly limit, or ALL DLs are throttled to 28/56k after a monthly limit.[/quote]
actually im in australia and i have an unlimited adsl account and i dont get throttled maybe you should check out http://www.shiftreload.com.au/quote
Bah! Their cheapest plan is $50 a month for the slowest 256k broadband. Soul is $30
They also have a $100 setup fee. Same as Soul
lol @ DesTek
ur plan sucks.
TPG.com.au
ADSL2+ 40gig peak 110gig offpeak.
69.95$
kick ass speeds if ur close to hub like me. and yeah..
Hah!
The net speeds here are sho crap it already feels like it’s throttled
:)
i have iinet adsl2+ running at–
40gig peak/40 gig off peak limits
speed is 2000KB/s down-100KB/s up
if 80 gig per month limit reached only download is shaped
they have never throttled my speed in 2 years with 2 torrent site running 24/7 plus p2p running 24/7
bullshit! Australian Exetel throttles P2P traffic. I have regretted signing up for adsl2+ with them. Sync speed at 390 kB/s down and 75 kB/s up. Only getting 90/70. So stay away from them, they are robbers.
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