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Australian Pirate Party Gets Approved and Russians are Denied (Again)

It’s been an up and down week for Pirates, as official party status has been decided in two countries. In Australia it’s a big G’day to their Pirate Party, while the Russians yet again heard ‘Nyet’ from their Ministry of Justice.

There is a certain level of symmetry to the world. When one part of the world has day, the other half has night. And more importantly, when one hemisphere gets summer, the other has winter. Right now it’s summer in the southern hemisphere and the sun is certainly shining on Australian Pirates.

ppauWhile their antipodean cousins have been celebrating the launch of Mega, Australian Pirates have cause to celebrate, as the Australian Pirate Party is now formally recognized as a party.

The party’s registration, with an objection period that ended January 14th, was deliberately kept quiet to reduce spiteful and/or spurious objections from pro-copyright bodies. Recognition was granted as of January 15th. As such, it’s now accepting members.

Party Founder Rodney Serkowsi was not shy in why he feels the party is needed in Australia.

“As the Prime Minister condemns whistleblowers and publishers without trial, the spectre of data retention looms, policy is laundered and Australia’s interests are sidelined by faceless diplomats and bureaucrats through ill-considered trade pacts there has never been more reason to put pirates in parliament,” he says.

Elections are expected to take place sometime around August.

But while it’s summer in the south, it’s winter in the north, and in Russia – a country famed for its winters – the icy winds are blowing cold and harsh.

no_piratesThe Russian Pirate Party seems unable to get a break. Last year, they were denied the ability to register as a party because of their name. The Ministry of Justice said it was promoting “at-sea crimes”. In July of 2011 the party’s judicial challenge failed when a judge sided with the Ministry against the party.

Then, last year a change in the law allowed the Russians to reapply, which they did at a ceremony June 30th 2012. However, it’s the same result as last time, as they’ve been turned down by the Justice Ministry again, this time for apparently “using in the name the word ‘pirate‘ that allegedly does not conform to the party’s goals and objectives”.

“This is not a joke. Such decisions are taken at the highest level. The Ministry of Justice is just carrying out someone else’s actions,” Chairman Pavel Rassudov commented.

However, the decision by Pirate Parties International to hold their annual conference in the Russian Kazan may bring some cheer, and could help revive flagging spirits (and inflame others) in an increasingly embattled party.

One thing is certain though, Pirates are continuing to ruffle political feathers worldwide.

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  • Guest

    Well of course they can’t have a Pirate Party in Russia. It’s a direct threat to Russian performance rights organisations that wish to gatecrash charity concerts performing Russian folk songs!

    Won’t somebody think of the folk song writers who haven’t been paid for centuries?

  • aus

    Australians unite! Now it’s time to have a celebration in Woolloomooloo… Russia can learn a thing or two from its counter parts

    • Guest321

      Russia isn’t a free country. They will never learn.

      • Russian Guest

        although I agree that we are not a free country, I hope our people will learn someday and kick off Putin and it’s regime

        • Hogspace

          Oh well come on now, even with Putin it MUCH more free than it was under the Communists in the USSR days.
          What it is now is deeply financially corrupt.

          I expect the same probably applies to China.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/V6MAVVVBC23RLJZLHBV3YA3ABY Rutherford

          America is the worst. Worst than Russia and China and Everywhere.
          But at least we don’t have that ‘Great Australian Internet Blackout’ thingy.

        • Most Of Russia Is Racist

          Will the Aryan Brotherhood take over the Russian government when they are more powerful?

  • Bubanee

    I’m Australian… where do i join…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1675073408 Timothy Callil

    australia needs
    1. good internet
    2. portugal drug laws
    then i would be truly ultra proud of my country

    • F3dd

      Instead they get objectionist pirate party types. A truly silly move to maginalize and lower the power of your votes.

    • Hogspace

      Don’t you think that having the pond scum that traffic heroin dancing at the end of a rope is much more appropriate?
      Perhaps you were thinking of legalising cannabis, like Washington and Colorado states? that’s certainly a good thing.

      • h33t

        ending prohibition and addressing the causes and circumstances of substance abuse is responsible social development and welfare at its best. it deprives revenue from criminal enterprise and brings substance abusers into support programs where the underlaying issues are addressed and their socially destructive behaviour is minimised. whilst drug trafficking remains a serious crime, the victims are given the support they need, and general society benefits from reduced crime and the costs associated with illegal activity in terms of less prostitution, burglaries, theft, muggings, violence, disease, and all the negatives associated with prohibition

        the problem with stupid people is they focus more on punishment than resolution and education. punishment is a primitive unsophisticated yet expensive method of promoting social welfare. punishment is a concept hand in hand with medieval versions of religion, nuff said

        ignorance is as structured as knowledge

        • Hogspace

          Smack users are not victims to be pitied. The users are as much part of the problem as the suppliers. You eradicate the supply by attacking those involved. You attack the use by introducing random drug testing. Starting with all Public Sector workers, from Civil Servants to Teachers to Politicians. Extend it from there to the Media sector. Attack the music and literature sector by removing the benefits of copyright from those convicted of use or supply.
          It isn’t hard to do, there has simply been no will to carry it out as so many involved in politics and media and the literati are users.
          One starts by delisting the beneficial drug cannabis obviously.

        • Anyone

          just like you can’t stop filesharing you can’t stop the supply of drugs

          even in countries where drug trafficking is punished by the death sentence it still gets trafficked

          the only way to combat this is to provide alternatives, treatment in the case of drugs, easy ways to buy stuff in the case of filesharing
          and even then you don’t eliminate it completely, you will just reduce it

      • Fuck You

        @Hogspace

        Whats the point of calling people pond scum? You racist prick.

        • Hogspace

          So let’s get this right. You consider drug dealers to be a race of humans and therefor advocating their eradication is racist.
          Either you are insufferably dumb or English isn’t your first language. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt so here
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
          For your enlightenment in Northern Ireland drug dealers, cannabis aside, have always been considered due for a beating, followed by a kneecapping followed by a trip on a deep sea trawler. As it should be. Citizens employ the representatives of the State to do their bidding, when the State becomes corrupt the citizens are within their rights to take back the power to act.

        • Guest

          Don’t reply to them, just flag their posts, they will get removed for violating hate speech laws. althrough there are some dumb moderators on this site that like to ignore such things, I personally would boot them off the moderating team.

      • BuddhaFacePalmed

        Lo, you’ve been doing this for like what, 60 years? And every year the drug busts gets bigger, the budget of the DEA and every other drug enforcement agency gets bigger, the penalty gets harsher. So, tell me. If criminalizing the demand side is so successful, why can’t you eradicate drug abuse by now?

        • Hogspace

          It’s never been done anything like properly and the demand side has never been ruthlessly targeted.

  • From Russia

    There can be only one russian “pirate” party. The United Russia- a criminal organization lead by international and federal kingpin Putin.lol

    • Hogspace

      I said in here yesterday that Dotcom really isn’t a very smart operator. A bit dumb and lacking in imagination.

      Mega should have been set up with the financial backing of a popular Russian oligarch and based to some extent in Russia. That way Mega stays untouchable. Bears are dangerous. Stay friendly with the Bear.

  • Mega Norris

    Australia needs.
    Better Woman

    • Platyourpus

      You need a better brain.

  • http://twitter.com/JerkfaceMcGee Jerkface McGee

    Just call them the file-sharing party and call it a day.

  • Anonymous

    well done to Aus! shame about Russia, but then what do you expect from a country that imprisons people for singing songs in church?

    • fuckpussyriot

      Fuck you! I’m born and live in aus, but i’m also Russian Orthodox… You have no idea how insulting that was to us. For us a church isn’t just a fkn concert hall where some fkn hippy with a guitar sits and praises Jesus, it’s a holy place. What added insult to injury – something the faggot Western media left out – was that the melody they use was the same as a prayer we have in our church – the Orthodox equivalent to Ave Maria/Hail Mary. Don’t teach us about morality – just because you have people that act like monkeys in your “modern” places of worship (the monkeys usually being the “clergy” themselves), doesn’t mean we have to put up with it!!!

  • Anon

    There’s no reason why people of different ideology within reason should not be allowed to organize and form a political party. For one thing, it helps to quantify just how large, or more likely small in piracy’s case, the proponent group really is.

    And for another, when the time comes the official party roster makes it easier for the authorities to round them up.

    • Platyourpus

      fuck off troll

    • HeyNonAnon

      True colours showing. Haven’t you left your sister tied up for long enough? Better give her some water before you rape her again.

    • 7th_Guest

      Usual fascist drivel aside, your constant assertions about the actual size of the world’s file sharing populace – and, thereby, the scope of the piracy “problem” – are drenched in simply adorable levels of denial. 70% among the interconnected US citizens under 30, going by just the most recent sampling, do so and think nothing of it. 300 million file sharers just on the BT protocol’s most popular client (uTorrent), who knows how many more not accounted for exchanging books, movies, music and games over the sneakernet, in university dorms and schoolyards, in conventions, fests and LAN parties, across open wifis, via more antiquated file sharing programs and protocols, by way of cyberlockers, FTP servers, IRC and dumb, plain old email…
      You claim piracy is a fringe behaviour, you pretend you’re dealing with a marginal phenomenon, you hope you’re up against a passing fad, but you, too, in your heart of hearts (purely figuratively speaking obviously), in your lonesome’s most dark and honest moments can hear it coming: the steady, roaring sound of the oncoming tidal wave, some 10 years out, for now. It won’t be a torrent of transmitted data that one, I’m sorry to tell you; that one will be the sweeping tsunami of change based on the one force of Sociopolitical Nature that even the obscene amounts of money possessed by you (the plural “you” you keep invoking and speaking on behalf of) won’t be able to prevent – the common, 21st century web-empowered individual’s morality. And then you’ll look once again for the usual support of your old bought out friends in power, but, ever the popularity chasing whores, they’ll no longer be standing next to you – not in the face of a 70+% freely knowledge & culture sharing constituency all over the free world. And only then will you realize what everyone else always understood to be an obvious fact, that you were doomed to lose this Copyright War against the World from the get-go. And nobody will even care then to walk up to you and offer a “gg” remark.

      Good luck and don’t put off the swimming lessons for too much longer now.

  • Fkueghv

    Russia are fucking asking for a terrorist attack, protest is made illegal, parties are denied, orphans are political tools and Putin still has that mega fucking house.
    Were I a Russian peasant I would join RBN, shoot the richest cunt I could find, and shoot the people who come looking for me after.
    I would shoot party members first if I could.
    Fuck suicide

  • Anon

    The Pirate Party in every country will never grow past being a sad entertainment in the moment. They are a filesharing one-trick pony in a world where political parties become responsible for domestic infrastructure, defense spending and state relations, economic development and global commerce, military action based on careful, mutually beneficial alliances on a huge scale. This is on a scale of normal governance and quite commonplace, well beyond the paygrade of any party formed by pirates.

    Do you really want your international treaties and alliances negotiated by a group who openly base their existence on hiding in VPN while secretly copying entertainment files, and then calling it Free Speech!?

    lol
    I didn’t think so.
    Sail on pirates, you are a fun and feckless group to the masses, but just the latest target to be hunted and punished by the authorities that the masses fund and empower year on year.

    • Guest

      So if they’re not a problem why the new laws? Are there more or less pirates breaking more or less law or more or less hiding over the last two or five or ten years?

      Make up your mind, Anon!

    • Platyourpus

      fuck off again troll

      • Anon

        Now that’s what we call a sharp, well reasoned and fact supported rebuttal.

        And just one more demonstrated reason why pirates have no ability to assume the degree of power they are seeking. You’ll always be a few percentage points, no more but sadly like ole Platyourpus, no less.

        • Guest

          You, on the other hand, continue to demonstrate why megalomaniacs like you do not deserve the power you think you should have.

        • Jimmy671

          Sorry to rain on your parade Anon,but I agree with Platyourpus.
          Fuck Off Troll.

    • HaTh

      I don’t use VPNs, I consider that’s an awful idea, I don’t even need them though.

      Now, what else they can do if they’re living in such places like USA,
      where they’re being forced to give more money to their riches,
      being sent to die for Oil, seeing how their government is building
      more prisons and trying to create more prisoners.

      That’s a wonderful democracy. Everybody! Show your respect for it.

    • UraPhake

      You have absolutely no idea at all what the Pirate parties represent, do you? You think they’re just about file-sharing.

      Your ignorance knows no bounds as it apparently increases exponentially with each passing day.

  • Jimbo

    Putin is gonna maintain control in any way he can. he is probably the ‘highest level’ spoke about here. the reason is crap but as long as there is a reason, they will stop the party from being recognised. if it isn’t recognised, how can it grow to become a threat?

  • Dnyt

    Do we have a Pirate Party in the US?

    • BJonesTF

      There is one, but it’s a state-by-state process (as required by US election laws)9 So Massachusetts has one, and Florida, but many others do not. see http://www.pirate-party.us

  • Anon

    Did any of you actually go and read the 8 page “constitution” of the Australian Pirate Party? Good lord. It reads like it’s written by a group of talented third graders out at recess. Here’s the best part:

    “The Party does not seek to become part of the administration…”

    Which is another way of saying “We demand we get our way, we just don’t want, y’know, to have to be part of the responsible governance that actually has to run things n’shit.”

    lol
    You can’t make this stuff up. Go read it yourself. It’s hilarious.

    • HeyNonAnon

      She’s waiting, but I bet she’s not hoping you hurry back.

    • bobmail

      It’s pretty typical of noisy minority action groups. They jump up and down and make a lot of racket, but when asked to actually take responsibility and to take charge of something, they shirk their duty and responsibilities faster than Julian Assange (and that’s fast).

      It’s an entirely one sided view of the universe, “me me me” mentality. Can you imagine a country run by people who can’t be assed to actually take charge of the shitty stuff, and just want to be minister of free internet and the Secretary of Pirated Files?

      • UraPhake

        Perhaps you should actually read The PPAU platform and you would understand that your term “Secretary of Pirated Files” is more akin to Anon’s derogatory “third graders out at recess.”

        My perception of the problem with you two is that your reading skills are severely challenged when it comes to deciphering the reasons a given party’s constitution adheres to their stated platform by eschewing those bits of government duty which require deception (national security issues, etc.).

        If I were to say, “I would like to serve my country but I do not wish to be the President” would you stupidly insult me faster than the copyright monopolists can issue a false DMCA take-down notice (and boy do we know that’s fast) for explicitly stating such?

        The trouble with you two is that you’re like brothers — one of you is as smart as the other is dumb — and no one can tell which one is which. The key to the answer is simply a matter of scale. We must compare the both of you to those of us who have normal human cognitive abilities.

        Figure that out (if you can).

        As Anon said, “You can’t make this stuff up.” You two are hilariously out of your league here. Treading water to stay afloat takes all of your energy and it shows when you’re challenged by concepts upon which your daddies in La-La Land couldn’t afford to educate you.

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

        It’s an entirely one sided view of the universe, “me me me” mentality.

        The ironing is delicious.

      • Guest

        This coming from the sort of person who asks Robert King to jizz on their face?

        Yeah, you’re simply dripping with cu- I mean, credibility, Baghdad bobmail.

        How’s that amnesty campaign for Andrew Crossley coming along?

      • Jimmy671

        “”they shirk their duty and responsibilities faster than Julian Assange”"

        Julian Assange would have more integrity in his little finger,then you have in your entire Mafiaa paid for body.

    • UraPhake

      Actually, this is what it says:

      “The Party does not seek to become part of the administration, but a mediator in parliamentary deadlocks, and to provide representation for the emergent information society, to guard the civil liberties of the citizen by utilising this power to further the party agenda, and as such intends to contest Australian Federal Elections in both the House of Representatives and Senate.”

      Maybe your mind is too small to understand the implications of such a statement, but it makes perfect sense. Consider the following:

      “An elected representative of the party must not vote for or compromise on any legislation that impinges on or compromises the rights stated here in this constitution.”

      Are you really unable to see why this is necessary?
      It must suck to be you.

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