It’s not about the Lost series,

RTFA ffs

BTW, I pirate, a lot, but I don’t really care or try to justify my actions with inane arguments. I simply grab things online and that is all.

What’s this? Yet another mongoloid backing up the filesharing = VCR analogy by demonstrating it cannot be argued with?

Why thanks, you shouldn’t have. :)

And thats why you fail miserably. How dumb do u have to be to not know the difference.

Actually, you won’t argue with my point because you can’t argue with my point.

Logic 1, you 0.

But since I’m not above laughing at mongoloids; thanks for the comedy. :D

Simon:“Hmmm… the BBC is funded by UK Taxpayers. It’s not your typical corner of the television industry, so your analogy is flawed.”

The analogy wasn’t about the BBC specifically, but the television industry in general.

Marak: “Wouldnt you agree that recording the video stream, and downloading the video stream are both a very fine line to be walking in an argumentative stance?”

I’d say recording the videostream and downloading the videostream are both the same thing, for all intents and purposes, and that it’s absurd for filesharing a TV show to be illegal when recording it on a VCR isn’t.

So… Uh… I’m not sure where we’re disagreeing? Heh.

Tom: “No, because you record the paid ads with the show. So you’re still exposed to the advertising.”

I edit out the paid ads, as do alot of others. Also, some DVRs cut out the ads automatically. Remember when the MPAA tried to sue Tivo? And what about when people record a movie from some cable station that shows them without any commercial inturruptions?

That, and the fact that being exposed to an ad doesn’t mean somebody is going to just rush out and buy something. The only difference between watching an episode of something and ignoring the commercials, and downloading an ad-free episode of something off P2P, is that in the latter case I won’t be annoyed by pointless commercials for things I’m never going to buy, or for things I already buy anyway.

When your owned, your owned, dont try to make up excuses and pathetic comebacks.

Stfu and hit yourself in the face again for being as weak as you are.

What exactly DO you think is about P2P or bittorrent? Have you not realized yet that this site offers a little more content on whats going on around the world? Are you really that close minded?

The content here obviously doesn’t meet your requirements.. so guess what the next move is dumbass? See that X in the top right of the screen?

Regarding the comments of others and some retarded responses: Pointing out that something is de facto illegal by law, doesn’t mean the person pointing this out agrees with these laws. Some people here are too trigger-happy to drop all logic and little bit of brains left just to get their damn files for free. A true pirate is like a gentleman: He enjoys and keeps his mouth shut.

No, because you record the paid ads with the show. So you’re still exposed to the advertising. And in the case of the BBC, you still have to pay a TV licence. So actually, the people who make the show still get paid. Which is the final measure of a working system.
As long as the people making the product get paid for the work they do, nothing else should matter.

Yes, there are valid arguments for voluntary donation from rather than charging for shows, but this is a terrible argument for torrenting being legal.

Roze
http://www.10ch.org/

Um yes it does moron, re-read. Then hit yourself in the face.

Idiot.

Wouldnt you agree that recording the video stream, and downloading the video stream are both a very fine line to be walking in an argumentative stance?

Surely even you can see that the tv broadcasting is a form of streaming, which when you look at it, is so close to any other form of transmission that they both blur the lines?

You obviously have the intelligence to understand reasonable argument, by your reply, so you should understand – and agree – that while the broadcaster may release an object once, via a single frequency, that it does not always necessarily equate to how everyone receives it.

I have had to in many places re-broadcast television/radio transmissions (i work in many remote places, and not all the time in direct line of site to many transmission methods).

Does that mean that if i re-broadcast(or bounce) a signal – even if its relayed almost instantly – into a rather deep valley, that im illegally ripping the stream?

If thats true, how do the broadcasters not violate their own rules when they re-broadcast, or even when subsidiary companies re-broadcast their signals – with their own advertisements in them – without being counted as illegal transfers?

If, on the other hand, you agree its not illegal, then where is the difference in file sharing? You are talking about something shared over a publicly available medium, and re-shared later(which is the same thing as i was doing, al-bet at a longer delay in seeing it, but so is VHS recording – which was never ruled illegal).

If you want to keep up a logical discussion, im perfectly willing to keep checking here as often as i can – and im also willing to change my point of view for decent arguments – if you are.

– Marak Cook
“Lets hope the free never be cowed by the weak, for when that happens, all hope is lost in life.”.

All day reading this, and im seriously considering moving to a non-extradition country and knocking myself out with seeding. *sigh* now to convince my GF haha.

Famous last words. ;-)

Hmmm… the BBC is funded by UK Taxpayers. It’s not your typical corner of the television industry, so your analogy is flawed.

Is there something missing here? Like… that the audio was on tape? I wanna see the bittorrent program that writes to tape! =D

FYI, saying that filesharing is different from videotaping/DVR’ing a show because you can share a downloaded episode with thousands of other people is just laughable, because tens of millions of people own some kind of home recording equipment. So then, what’s the difference between sharing an episode of Heroes with a million other people through P2P, and a million people simply recording it at home on their VCR/DVR?”

Wow, you really are a fucking moron arent you… ROFL that you called the other poster an idiot and then posted that horseshit.

Classic. :D

I won’t argue with your points because you obviously have your head so far up your own arse that you believe making vague analogies between two completely seperate processes makes them the same process.

Some people are just too thick.

It’s a pipe dream though, the studios and publishers are too stupid to get with the times, even if it is for their own good.

Hahahah.

You’re kind of an idiot, aren’t you?

The point of the analogy Mr. Missing-The-Forest-For-The-Trees, is that in terms of harming the television industry, downloading some TV show off of BitTorrent is no different from recording it off the air with a VCR.

Oh, and the point was also that the MPAA’s crusade against filesharing is just a rehash of its crusade against home video recording, which in turn was just a rehash of the RIAA’s crusade against audio cassette recording.

FYI, saying that filesharing is different from videotaping/DVR’ing a show because you can share a downloaded episode with thousands of other people is just laughable, because tens of millions of people own some kind of home recording equipment. So then, what’s the difference between sharing an episode of Heroes with a million other people through P2P, and a million people simply recording it at home on their VCR/DVR?

Just a bunch of meaningless, hypocritical legal bullshit that isn’t worth paying attenton to.

@16, your “Fun Fact” is bullshit. When you record a tv show be it with a VCR, DVDR or PVR, whatever, you alone are making that copy for your personal use, which is perfectly legal. When you use bittorrent to download, you are getting it from someone who has no legal right to give it to you, you have no legal right to download it, and you have no legal right to distribute it to others. Thats exactly the same as you making your recording, then making 1000 different copies and giving them away to total strangers, which would be illegal.

If it has anything to do with IP and copyright, then yes, it does.

Excellent…

Fun fact: the only difference between recording a TV show with a VCR and downloading a TV show off BitTorrent is that the MPAA’s bitter campaign to ban home video recording ended in complete failure.

Whereas with BitTorrent, the MPAA’s bitter campaign to ban filesharing is in the process of ending in complete failure.

PS:
I hope Torrentfreak keeps an eye on this one. Just to see if this episode is ever sold and report back to us.

So that’s why I can’t find anything about the “Hurricanes”, execpt the intro?

“Hurricanes” was my favourite cartoon! Can anyone tell me where I can find some of the shows about the great soccer team?

ya see the bbc had a fire and also diliberately destroyed some stuff.

Ya they didnt realize the show is erally the longest sci fi OF all time and that should have merited storage

btw, if anyone thinks the bbc taping over things came to an end in the 70s, they still have a lot of radio shows broadcast as late as the 90s that are either partially or completely missing.