Be Afraid of BitTorrent, Very, Very Afraid
Written by enigmax on June 06, 2008A new file-sharing service called Rhever is using an interesting tactic to get customers. It appears to be trying to scare users away from BitTorrent and LimeWire, and onto its service. Their promo videos are entertaining, I admit that, but are you scared enough dump torrents and try it? I don’t think I am.
I mean, come on. Who needs BitTorrent when the Rhever network has over 20 Million files, 300 TB’s of downloadable content, with another 2 TB’s of information added daily? Also, Rhever has some great (Mac vs. PC inspired) promo videos (we’ll see them below) poking fun at LimeWire, KaZaA and (gasp) even Bram Cohen! And it gets even better.
No more slow downloads, viruses, or adware/spyware required to find the files you are looking for. The Rhever application has a built in easy-to-use search engine to find what you are looking for and does not require you to troll websites looking for .torrent files.
Unfortunately for Rhever, there is no Internet ‘buzz’ around their brand, people just aren’t taking about it, which is a bit strange for such a seemingly great product. If you do a search, 95% of the stuff you’ll find are press releases – and they only appear to be designed to worry people onto their new service.
They play an awful lot on the closure of TorrentSpy in their attempts to generate fear, uncertainty, doubt – and new business for them.
The ‘launch‘ press release lays off most of the scare tactics but is still littered with strange and misleading statements. Rhever spam is posted on dozens of forums, like this one and there are also some ‘interesting’ articles and blog posts around (tagged ‘Rhever’) proclaiming the end of BitTorrent sites. Even Digg doesn’t escape Rhever spam submitted by the company itself.
Also, Rhever use the most contentious music industry statistics to ‘prove’ that other P2P networks are dangerous, and refer to the IFPI as “respected industry analysts.”
If the fear doesn’t work, maybe the comedy angle will get them some subscribers? Rhever has produced a series of (admittedly quite funny) promotional animations showing the benefits of using Rhever over existing file sharing networks. Take a look at the ‘Rhever vs LimeWire’ video below which says that Rhever has done the impossible – and completely eradicated viruses from its network. In its own words:
Each of its [Rhever's] 60,000 servers are run by an administrative team that monitors the servers for any rogue files – viruses, fake uploads and other negative features that are removed instantly
LimeWire vs Rhever
BitTorrent vs Rhever . In this video you will find the secret of the Rhever network..
So it seems Rhever is selling access to good old Usenet and advises its subscribers to use NZB files to get their material, recommending its own (currently non-operational) site to get them – NZB.net.
Considering that Rhever’s strategy is to worry people about the legality of their chosen method of sharing files so much that they sign up, they’re quite cavalier about their own legal position. NZB sites in the US don’t have a great lifespan and offering a full package with Usenet seems very brave.
Finally, here is the KaZaA vs Rhever video:
Rhever is keen to play on the adware bundled with KaZaA, and that proves interesting when armed with WHOIS.
Rhever.com and NZB.net are both owned by a company called JMH Media. JMH Media are the current owners of the MySpaceBar.com domain, which was previously connected to the Scam.MySpaceBar malware. Unsurprisingly, McAfee doesn’t like it at all.
I’m not exactly inspired with confidence to try this Rhever but hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained! Time to sign up. Unfortunately, no matter what I put in I get errors, a point not lost on the solitary poster on the Rhever forums:
No mention of prices anywhere. No contract information. No proper terms or conditions. No company information. No privacy statement. No contact information. No postal address.
There is however, a link to the Rhever client, named ’setup.exe’…..
Maybe Rhever’s fear-marketing has got to me? Far from being scared into leaving BitTorrent, all this uncertainty means that i’m too scared to even install ’setup.exe’ due to what might be inside it – an instinct I acquired in my days as a LimeWire/KaZaA user. I think something just backfired.
Well then, another couple of hours wasted looking for The Holy Grail, only to realize that much like the French soldiers in the movie of the same name, I already have one.
What we really need now is a talented animator to make a proper ‘BitTorrent versus Rhever’ video….
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135 Responses
“…and refer to the IFPI as ‘respected industry analysts.’”
hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha….
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
I would never use Rhever, it could be the most kickass P2P application in the history of the Internet but after making such a claim it’s difficult to put any faith into this!
OGIE IS A GOOK
So its “File-Sharing” but “without need to share”? Kinda contradicting….
hardly p2p if your just downloading from a dedicated server. sound fishy to me.
If these people are supporting the ifpi, and calling other networks dangerous, then this is most likely a scam of some sort.
The cartoons aren’t even funny.
rhever my dick
just tried, registration is broken! ran the program in my sandbox and it didnt install anything besides the program and a few dlls, not to say that one of the dlls isnt malware or that it wont download anything though!
But seriously … ha ha ha …
Rhever … my arse.
just let it swim down the sewage
Put some fear into the hearts of the scum that are the RIAA, MAFIAA, BPI, IFPI and Virgin Media.
…
Just stick to your regular usenet provider folks.
You can’t beat torrents!! That’s a fact and we al agree to that.
According to every1 here: Yes that’s true, why P2P when you don’t need to upload something…
But I like the idea there is an alternative way to download files but you need to register to the Rhever network :/
Torrents is FULL opensource and (free) anonymous to use.
WE ALL LOVE AND WE WILL LOVE BITTORRENTS FOR EVER!!
I also think they wel charhe the Rhever-network like they did whit various torrentsites.
if you want reliably fast why not use irc?
this looks like a joke i wonder if apple will sue for stealing their ads.
So what? Isn’t rhever like usenet which we all know is MUCH better than public torrents. But then again I like to use rapidshare..
Sounds like this could be a trap of one sort or another.
Ah finally a scammer with a sens of humor :D
HAHAHAHAH :D
I think that anti-piracy is hidden under this shit.. Trying to catch some n00b’ie pirates..
“Far from being scared into leaving BitTorrent, all this uncertainty means that i’m too scared to even install ’setup.exe’ due to what might be inside it”
LOL!!!!!!! Ha ha!
Anything that touts the *AA and IF mob as “respected”, sounds dodgy to me!
It’s Mivii all over again
Exactly. Mediadefender, MediaSentry or BayTSP or something similar…
The only true way youre gonna beat Torrent files is to find a site that has all the files on megaupload. you see its much faster than torrents but you do have to buy the premium package..But none the less even the free side is real fast.
Check out this screenshot of their client… http://www.rhever.com/images/appDownloading.png
The only p2p network I might use at the moment beside bittorrent is eMule/Kad. It’s definitely slower and a lot less convenient but it may be the only way to get some files that are too unpopular to be currently found on bittorrent. There’s also DC++ which could be feasible to use for LANs but that’s a different story.
Wow! What ARE the chances that you would pick my username to register?
Better go back to my old handle, Welshie :D
Rhever… well, just look at the Logo in the video, a biohazard symbol, what the hell…
Well, I really don’t trust that thing after the explanation in the last part of the article… might be interesting to scan the “setup.exe” file a bit…
Anyway, UseNet, which is currently getting attacked probably doesn’t have much time to survive, nor does this side… except it’s a fake thing (like miivi) made by IFPI or someone else…
Good old torrents will surely work for a good while, and during that time, let’s look what happens to this “new and revolutionous downloading service”…
Rhever Setup
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/fe9dafda8e17ac2041391f92b0006001
UseNEXT repacked.
http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=472078&sid=fd8a8001768f0604ad276bff34f2d1d5
Nothing to see here, move along,
My spidey sense is tingling.. SCAM!
This is the most blantant trap by the IFPI or whomever..
Trust me, when you have that kind of dedicated spamming and nothing to back it up (No company or even proper client).. its them. They are trying to throw yet another wrench into the mix to confuse people to just give up and buy the crap.
Every second they waste of peoples time trying to use P2P is time well spent to them, it just causes confusion and frustration. After hours of trying to figure it out and being afraid of getting caught, they just figure play it safe and buy it. Time is money.
Its fine by me, I prefer people to be semi techy to be able to use P2P, I cant stand trying to explain to a moron how to download stuff or how to avoid scams, even though I try to teach everyone I meet.. they have to be at least worthy of the knowledge.
Man, those animations was hilarious!
Thanks a lot for giving Usenet even MORE of a bad reputation than it already has, Rhever. I hope you fucking die a horrible server panic attack.
love it
This pretty much ended it for me
“…and refer to the IFPI as: respected industry analysts.”
If you can call those bunch of gangsters/rogues/scum etc “respected”
your parents should have practiced safe sex and aborted any accidents.
Cheers!
http://www.ezee.se/ – Copyright is Copywrong
this program is so amazing, that it got PUKKA’s Ironman release before they did!
So have the president of AXJ help out. They are cool cats.
Anyone going to this site, much less actually signing up, can expect lawyers banging on the door.
C’mon now, a Usenet/NZB site located in California? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
lmfao at this stuff bittorent rules
the bittorrent video is hilarious.
Rhever seems like a combination of UseneXT and Earth Station 5.
Does anyone here remember Earth Station 5?
Hype, deception, and lies ad nauseum.
Stephen Cohen, are you the one behind Rhever?
How is this going to get me better speeds, When i download from TL SA Or BN or maybe Demonoid i get full speed anyway so how is this going to get it faster?
Yes get rid of Kazza and Limewire please do
hahaha….looks forward to seeing the video of bittorrent vs rhever!!! the ultimate knockout!!! lol!!!
ha ha ha, how funny.
why would anyone use this service when utorrent is free fast and gets any movie or dvd or cd you want, overnight. even amazon cant do that!
Michael Heinz (jheinz@jmhmedia.com)
14107 Tiger Lily Ct
Corona, CA 92880
+1.909.967.6150
It’s A Trap!
Srsly.
The people who are dumb enough to try this out will also be dumb enough to pay their out of court settlements. This is what they bank on. Seems like they’re so impatient to get this going, they’re promoting it before they’ve even finished constructing all their site traps.
Seriously, if the RIAA is not behind this, then whoever it is is in bed with them.
“The next generation in file sharing?” O DER. Usenet file sharing has been around for a while now. It just looks like some overconfident upstart that brings nothing new to the table.
Also, fail for portraying Bram Cohen as a hippie.
Sorry, IFPI or whatever. They all look so similar I can’t tell them apart. Not that I care really either.
This may be a prototype also, to gauge feedback and popularity, maybe get personal details as well.
If not they’d be better off scrapping the idea and coming back with another. Next time don’t use language that flatters the IFPI, as that’s a dead giveaway.
And since BT was taken over it shows they have further interest in controlling it. Note Bram’s BitTorrent.com
Free bit torrent will be around till the end, “secure” or not
Watch for the MPAA to send letters to all the IPs which sign up for it in a few months…/tinfoilhat
I will use QNAP’s Linux embedded NAS with Bittorrent & Emule supported.
It is much more power-saving and free from virus or resource being occupied.
One thing nearly certain is that the people behind those cartoons are not new to the P2P scene — and were probably much more active a few years ago than recently.
points:
1. Bram Cohen portrayed as a weed-growing hippie:
reality: He might have been like that 6 or 7 years ago when he was unemployed and growing his hair, coding Bittorrent and begging for donations, but he has been the CEO of a multi-million-dollar corporation for some time.
2. Kazaa CEO Nikki Hemming portrayed:
reality: Although once a media darling, she has not shown her face in public in years. Anyway, Kazaa hit it’s peak in 2003 and has been in decline ever since, and for about the last two years (largely due to their legal troubles) Kazaa/Fasttrack has been essentially dead as a P2P.
3. Limewire founder/CEO Mark Gorton portrayed: This is the only one of the three clips that could even be considered remotely relevant, as Gorton and Limewire’s are still major players in p2p today.
Either these cartoons were drawn up 3-6 years ago, or the people behind Rhever remain immersed in the past and have not been keeping up with current events in P2P in several years.
“Michael Heinz (jheinz@jmhmedia.com)
14107 Tiger Lily Ct
Corona, CA 92880
+1.909.967.6150″
Interesting … both Michael Heinz and Stephen Cohen live in Southern California.
Not sure if anyone else has reported on this yet (don’t feel like reading through), but the registration seems to be working now.
After you register your username and activate your account via the activation email, it brings you to a page that states that your membership fee is $10.
I was looking forward to try this out as a free service and maybe tell about how good or bad it is, but I’m afraid it’s pay-only.
Good luck, Rhever. Not gonna happen.
@Condawg:
Rhever is providing access to Usenet, so of course this is NOT going to be a completely free service.
To gain business, they will have to offer people something to hook them in. A free trial is the standard option. (Most usenet providers offer some sort of free trial)
Since they are providing a proprietary client to access Usenet, and therefore can easily control what users can and can’t do, another option for them might be to offer a limited quantity of small files for free (like MP3s and images) but charge for access to large files like movies.
It’s possible they might try something like the RAPIDSHARE business model, which puts up hurdles for free users to have to jump over. Rapidshare allows free downloads up to 100MB, but makes downloaders wait for hours before they can download again. Therefore, for people who don’t know how to beat the system, downloading a big file like a DVD movie on Rapidshare becomes far too much of a hassle unless you buy a premium subscription.
If the people running Rhever were smart, they would set up something similar, allowing free *limited* downloads over an unlimited time.
Torrent FOREVER!!!
I just saw that first promo. I was eating my breakfast :|
dont trust it stay as you are
Dude, hey that´s really really cOOL but I still think Leechers, viruses, malwares and other goodies are not broblems wheb used proper internet security, adblockers and some BRAINS… weird and funny, right!?
If only I could read thru a thread without having to wade thru spam, Obama, and Linux.
“50 by Q
I will use QNAP’s Linux embedded NAS with Bittorrent & Emule supported.
It is much more power-saving and free from virus or resource being occupied.”
Power saving??!
Windows doesn’t contain viruses. We have firewalls and AV to prevent them.
Utorrent uses less than 1% CPU
That should’ve read “We ALSO have fw” etc
he is refering to a tiny little NAS. and such a thing consumes much much less engergy then running a full blown PC.
The Wikipedia link on their website is supposed to take you to their wiki page, which should contain more info about Rhever.
Too bad the article doesn’t exist.
ok i tryed it…well i was gonna try it but the fact that they want 10 bucks for 20gigs of downloads a month that stopped me and the fact that when they sent me thier email comfermation the email would never open Do’H!
somethin fishy here
the cartoons are really funny
The Bittorrent vs. Rhever video was hilarious :)
Bram got his seed/plant slugged.
Fuck that, I’m sticking to Earthstation 5… :)
“Each of its [Rhever's] 60,000 servers are run by an administrative team that monitors the servers for any rogue files – viruses, fake uploads and other negative features that are removed instantly”
BWAHA.HA.HA… ROFL
60000 servers, and each of them monitored by a team… LOL Even the US Military can’t pull this off
LOL Funny Day
I’d rather type LOL until I die from cancer.
Giganews.com + v3.newzbin.com
All I have to say about this tub of bullshit.
Hahahahaha “rhever” is just another name for usenet. Hahahahha. I already have that. I’m not paying 10 bucks a month for your shitty gateway.
Besides, Usenet is nice for certain files, but it doesn’t always have the selection that Bit Torrent does.
Usenet is older that all of the other technology. same as useNeXT that BitTorrent site are always pushing.Usenet rock for getting file just do you research so you don’t get ripped off
Death too rhever … blatenly corporate fat men
Anyone else remember part of the mediadefender leaked emails mentioning a P2P app made by them to entrap filesharers?
This reeks of such filth.
Is a Linux version available?
Well, VirusTotal didnt find anything atleast
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/9661133a0695f619743b030f06a14c5a
Rhever is scam. One or some assfuckers retards wanna get big money easy way. “…20 Million Files…over 300 TB’s of content…” Fucking liars! Beware never run setup.exe file you will get nasty surprise!
10 bucks little man, put that shit in my hand, and if the money doesnt show, you owe me owe me owe….
my jungle love yeah oweeoweeowe
usenet = giving out your billing data = giving your home adress = screwed
This IronMan DVDSCR must be real, because there are no fake files in rhever network. LOL
http://www.rhever.com/images/appDownloading.png
I’ll continue leeching seeds from stoner guy. His shit is the dankest.
Rhever… new?
It’s just usenet servers, nothing to see here.
Just download as much as you can from it and share it in Gnutella and Bittorrent.
Fuck off Rhever
my registration worked…not sure your guys problem.
IRONIC that they us Mac VS PC ads, but have no support for Mac at all…hmmm
wow, newsleecher is 100x better than this stupid program. usenet is awesome, and yeah, i like it better than torrents… but it costs money each month for an account that connects to usenet servers. this program they’re trying to push is fuckin lame.
rhever?
what’s that?
the guy in rhever is definitely homo
vidber
rhever
miivi
bivvid
You’d think these guys would learn to change their naming schema. Xb
But I hafta admit the “southern California” connection is just fishing. Maybe both of them live there, but so do 24 million other registered citizens.
(I was going to say people, but then realized that figure would be more like >50 million.)
I am the primary developer on Rhever and can assure you there is no malware, spyware or viruses contained within the installation. The actual Rhever application itself has only been under development for 3 months and will be listed as beta for another 3 months while we refine it according to the feedback. I enjoy all feedback, positive or negative, and have already put into motions making changes to the site and application which will make new users feel at ease using Rhever.
I am appreciative to you for taking the time browse the site. If it isn’t up to your standards now, please check back over the next few months to see the improvements.
Searching will always be open to try without registering or logging in.
I’m guessing it’s a scam.
But if its not
Downloading everything off of a dedicated server will only get them the same fate as Napster
bit torrent and limewire all the fucking way
fuck u rhever
This sounds like a trick like the RIAA or our wonderfull (I don’t want anyone doing anything on the net that we say not to do) old farts in our gov.I do not even pay attention to these dino’s because I am so tired of the closed minded ways, I am simply going to do what I want with my computers & net & use them the way that I please & torrents are the sh**. Torrent Power. Power to the Torrent(haha).
OFFSystem, dude.
sounds very fishie deff would not install on a windos box normally things go on word off mouth not being scared stiff into using a app: wonder if this will last the yr out with them vids be scared to use the web to surf lol
these videos are like those ridiculous mac-pc videos. they pretty much ensure i’ll never use one. if you need to bash other peoples software to make yours look good, yours is probably junk too. you gain popularity by being better, not by making “clever” videos.
Have no fear! the animator is here! I have created a cartoon response to this propagandistic atrocity.
http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rhiver1tr3.swf
killer ;)
Posted to Broadband Reports as of 10:00 AM this morning (06/07/2008):
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Rhever-Offers-Legal-But-Questionable-Alternative-to-BitTorrent-95101
hmm…. just like the actual mac v pc commercials, the ‘cool’ figure comes off as an arrogant douchebag, while the ‘underdog’ evokes sympathy.
Downloading from a dedicated server is “revolutionary” as compare to multiples sources…give me a break!
I think Rhever is a play on the Reavers from Firefly. Meaning they’ll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into their clothing. And if you’re very, VERY, lucky, they’ll do it in that order.
Bah, big deal – what are these guys really offering? Usenet access, and nothing but that! You could also get usenet access for free, although to get some decent servers you’ll need to open up your pockets.
And, well, it’s NOT p2p because users upload their files to the servers and other download it from the server, not from the original user with the file. Kinda like rapidshare.
Overall, they suck. I’ll create a virtual machine and install their setup.exe to see what happens soon :P
http://www.youtube.com/user/jmhmedia
Looks like they also make an OCR tool to spam myspace…
Um, okay… a new usenet provider. Big deal.
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It must be a scam simple becaase of the laws involved!
If they exercise control over what is available thru the service then they don’t fall under the safe heaven clause of the DMCA.
SO If you can get stuff that you allegedly interested in as a TF reader (the copyrighted stuff that is normaly illegal to download) that means that the R-guys are in for a few years in prison (coprightinfringement on a commercial scale does not fly so well in US courts these days)
And if they are not in for a few years then it means they have an arangement with the copyrightholders to offer their “virus free” downlaoding offer from dedicated servers they monitor, which would logically mean it’s YOU the user of that service are in for troubel since it is then nothing more then a honey pot.
And if none of the 2 above alternatives apply, it means they offer only public domain and CC licensed stuff which will not get them in trouble so that service might not be a scam then, but is totally useless for “a typical” filesharer (even the newb ones that might actually fall for their offer though)
Stay away from them at all cost i say.
Note that IANAL and this is not legal advice, just common sense!
usenet is probably one of the oldest way to download warez
Patrick Nikoletich:
“I am the primary developer on Rhever and can assure you there is no malware, spyware or viruses contained within the installation.”
It’s obvious that Rhever is a trap if there ever was one, so I can assure you that you really aren’t fooling anyone, Mr. Shiteating MAFIAA Sockpuppet.
Clue #1 is the fact that half the marketting for Rhever revolves around regurgitating bullshit from the IFPI’s propaganda department.
Clue #2 is the fact that for an unknown start-up business, Rhever sure has a prolific viral advertising campaign. One that many established companies could only dream of.
Clue #3 is the fact that Rhever tries to disguise that it’s simply a Usenet client, behind claims that its some kind of new, revolutionary, 100% safe filesharing alternative to Bit Torrent/Limewire/Kazaa etc.
And finally, Clue #4 is the fact that the MAFIAA fucking loathes Usenet because they’ve historically been even more helpless to squeltch it than they have P2P. Finding a way to entrap Usenet users for downloading copyrighted material is one of their holiest of Holy Grails. A honeypot would fit the bill quite nicely, but how would someone go about making a Usenet honeypot?
They’d create a proprietary, closed-source Usenet client that requires your full name and billing information, along with a fee of $10 a month to use(”Hey, let’s fleece our victims before we sue them!”). And apparently, they’d call it Rhever because they think it’s really clever to make a pun on ‘reaver’, since the purpose of the honeypot is to reave victims.
Oh, and lastly, one of their hired gimps would visit Torrent Freak and post under the name Patrick Nikoletich.
Great post #103
and their whois information changed suspiciously often in the short time they are “here” (me has no gold membership to view the previous ones, but would not wonder if a “randy s.” is one of the first few :-P
Follow the money!
Ask the creating company (*) of the cartoons who payed their bill!
that company has at least a “serious business” loking appearance and not a “$4.99 my brother create your advertising films”-aura!
(*) http://www.themartist.com/
@22 whats evil about ubuntu?
why the hell are they changing thier whois so fast?
a bit up in this comment thread it was some tiger stuff and now it’s
Whois Record
Registration Service Provided By: JMHMedia
Contact:
Visit: http://www.jmhmedia.com
Domain name: rhever.com
Registrant Contact:
JMHMediaLLC
Michael Heinz
12672LimoniteAve
Suite3E#334
Corona, CA 92880
US
Administrative Contact:
JMHMediaLLC
Michael Heinz ()
9099676150
Fax: 1.9513469267
12672LimoniteAve
Suite3E#334
Corona, CA 92880
US
Technical Contact:
JMHMediaLLC
Michael Heinz ()
9099676150
Fax: 1.9513469267
12672LimoniteAve
Suite3E#334
Corona, CA 92880
US
Status: Active
Name Servers:
ns1.mediatemple.net
ns2.mediatemple.net
Creation date: 01 Mar 2007 00:42:34
Expiration date: 01 Mar 2009 00:42:34
and then all the previous changes
2007
2007-12-12
2008
2008-03-02
2008-03-03
2008-03-06
2008-06-02
2008-06-04
2008-06-05
2008-06-06
makes one suspicious how reliable they are as a provider for your legal files demands if they seems to be even unable to get simple clerical stuff like a whois record straight after one or mostly teh second try, don’t you think?
Argh!
spam filter ate my answer to poster 22 and 106.
see the picture on the TPB picture host. filename is pAjBfAaBO
ao I wanted to test that, gave them my mail thingy, activated my account and then they wanted CC infos for activation.
Me does neither have a CC nore do i live under MAFIAA jurisdiction so they could extort money from me if I would use it to do illegal things, (which I hadn’t in mind of course!)
So I looked in their faq what I can do next, and it says use the helpdesk link on the left!
I did. Thats what I got:
Your IP address,62.226.6.18 has been blocked.
Seems they really are only interested in american noob filesharers that might be easy pray once they violate copyrightlaw while using that service!
scam.. if Rever really is pro file-sharing, they wouldn’t be cutting down Bit torrent, which is much more efficient and safe than this dedicated server gimmick.
i was able to register.
I am the owner of Rhever.com and the Rhever application (and I will add an avid reader of TorrentFreak.com).
I would like to set the record straight, Rhever is a Usenet type application except we have taken the time to make the searching and downloading processes as simple as possible to market to novice users , Users who would normally be using applications like LimeWire or Kazaa. We did not want to brand Rhever as a UseNet Client because we are trying to become more than that but the monthly fee is UseNet access.
Patrick Nikoletich (the main programmer, who posted here earlier) has been working very hard to develop this application with a team of two other people.
This software is still in Beta, in fact, it was only being used by a select group of friends as we were testing it out before this post attracted so much attention to us.
I agree, the website looks like a scam. We were not prepared to go live and had no idea our software would attract this kind of attention. The press releases were written and distributed by an over-zealous writer we hired from eLance.com.
For the animations, you can see these were posted over 8 months ago, we had them developed for fun, personally I think they are funny. It was never meant to be taken so literal.
Simply, Rhever is a project being developed by a group of 4 friends for fun and because UseNet is a great service. We are not some large start-up and we never intended the Beta to get this much attention.
The Rhever application works, and we have worked hard on it, but it is in BETA. Over the next couple months we will be adding a lot of features and function to the application. As well, we are working on making the site design more clear as to what Rhever is and what Rhever does. Again, we never expect to get this much exposure. If you don’t like the application that is fine, you don’t have to use it.
The software does not contain any adware or malware (which pretty much any virus scanner can tell you, so I don’t know why this is such a hot topic for discussion) and it is not a scam , We have developed a propriety UseNet index that allows users to quickly download binary content from UseNet in the simplest way we could.
Yes, “Usenet File Sharing” might not be the best term to use (yet) because you do not “upload” , I get it, get over it, it’s just a term.
In any case, you are entitled to your opinions but reading these comments for the past two days about a project we have worked hard on for the past 5 months is very disheartening.
I am not mad, but this is a personal project for me and Enigmax never tried to contact me or anyone here before posting this. I encourage Enigmax to contact me, I would be glad to discuss the details of the project with him.
You have worked hard on this for the past 5 months? So f*cking what? Children, keep your hands off that shite!
@Herr Heinz!
Hallo Herr Heinz,
so you might want to set my account to active even though I have not given you any CC or other billing information.
Just so I (who gives a shit about MAFIAA and that YOU will land in prison for your aggressive advertising/and of facilitating of copyrightinfringement on a commercial scale) can test how Usenet newb friendly your “great service” really is!
P.S. for your programming guy that works so hard: Your registering form claims that a 18 digits PW is not valid while a 9 digit one is!
Hey, why not save time and money, and just send me all your bank account and credit card info, then I will direct you to the best download site on earth, a site that will provide you all the information and downloads on the internet
google.com search term: ‘you are retarded ‘
Rhever is stupid crap.
I´m God
@ Michael Heinz.
Damage control mode? heheh
So uv worked hard on this to develop it. So What? Either u are licensed to sell content or ur not. If u are then uv lost 99% of potential users, if not, then ur scamming the media industries and wish to profit from others over content already freely available. In this scenario u lose out also, and it’s only a matter of time before they litigate and close u down. Why not quit now while ur still in the black?
You may have success if u paid license fees, were ad sponsored, and offered access to free files. Plus protected user privacy. Otherwise I can’t see any other way.
Rhever….i’ve had turds that would work better….
Hi,
I’m Michael Heinz the creator of Rhever (It was going to be called “Rever” but i had a cold that day) I’d just like to make you all aware that Rhever is totally clean. Well i say clean….by clean i mean an off shade of white….well…by an off shade of white i mean…brownish….well by brownish i mean…oh look ok…it’s infested….you have a better chance of not catching anything if you went with a 25c hooker. But it does have it’s benifits too! Have you ever had the desire to totally fuck up your hard drive??? Then this is the prgram for you! Pissed off with an ex Girlfriend or Boyfriend? Then get them a subscription to Rhever and we’ll promise to trash every computer they ever buy!
We have somemore adverts coming out…in one of them we trash the artists on the simpsons because it’s clear to all that the guy who made our cartoons is much much much better at drawing than those guys at fox! And after we’ve run out of people to trash we’ll start on small minoroties…and then we’ll say you’re all unfit parents and Rhever could be a better parent!
Well i”m glad you’re all such big fans of the product. I’d stay and chat longer but i have to go as Prince is trying to reclaim me (As a footnote don’t ever buy another price CD again….Rhever makes much better music).
Love, Peace and Rhever y’all!
Michael Heinz
another pay me for warez its not the way it should be F them :)
Usenet is great, But if I was searching for a new usenet provider and I came across their site, I’d move on within seconds.
i clicked helpdesk only to find out that my ip was blocked? dumb
Nice one animator :D
@Michael Heinz
you say
“Simply, Rhever is a project being developed by a group of 4 friends for fun and because UseNet is a great service. We are not some large start-up and we never intended the Beta to get this much attention.”
BUT
“Each of its [Rhever's] 60,000 servers are run by an administrative team that monitors the servers for any rogue files – viruses, fake uploads and other negative features that are removed instantly”
so which one is it your not some large start up or you have 60 000 servers and a admin team that sits there goin through all the files either way your a lier
you say this has been made for 4 friends and is still beta and not even thinking about going public yet
then how come 8 months ago you made the cartoons 8 months ago you wouldnt have even known exactally what you could offer so spending money on them would just be retarded
you say your not going public anytime soon but you hired a writer
dude get your bullcrap str8 before you try 2 scam people we all know your whois eventually points to kaz and its just a scam
even if there was half as many viruses as you talk about id still rather that insted of gettin shit from a crappy server that records everything and gives details to ANYBODY that wants em
Nice idea … having dedicated servers to spread desired files around — trouble with that is, the more popular a file becomes, the more people try simultaneously downloading from the same server, the more lag accumulates and the slower the download becomes — this is exactly what BitTorrent was designed to prevent … that Rhever can do the same without peer to peer sharing means a great deal of dedicated bandwidth will have to be allocated by Rhever to keep their network from grinding to a halt — again, the exact scenario that torrents were designed to alleviate … I look forward to seeing what happens to Rhever as their popularity grows and the limits of their dedicated bandwidth throughputs are tested …
@ someone- thats tru, if u weren;t ready to go live why did u hire a writer and have pr put out? if the writr screwed up like u say they did then shldnt u hav had final approval on relasing the pr?
“walk b4 u can run”
… please disregard that, I suck cocks!
looks like there trying to sell Usenet
do they think they made NZB’S
noooope it’s not there network they should fu%* off
domain: myspacebar.com
IS A well known scam guess who owns it…..
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registrant-firstname: Michael
registrant-lastname: Heinz
registrant-street1: 14107 Tiger Lily Ct
registrant-pcode: 92880
registrant-state: CA
registrant-city: Corona
registrant-ccode: US
registrant-phone: +1.9099676150
registrant-email: jheinz @ jmhmedia.com
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Hey go figure Michael Heinz ALSO owns http://www.rhever.com/ too!!!
Domain name: rhever.com
Registrant Contact:
JMHMediaLLC
Michael Heinz
12672LimoniteAve
Suite3E#334
Corona, CA 92880
US
spread THE WORD
L.o.L epic fail
To prove that rhever is not a scam I have actually left the code completely unobfuscated. Using the free Microsoft .NET Reflector tool you can see every last bit of code contained within Rhever. The client is free, we simply charge the cost to maintain the index server and provide you with a quota to use. You can sign up, login to nntp.rhever.com using any news reader with the same credentials you created online. The only dll that is “protected” is the rarengine.dll which was obtained directly from rarlab’s source forge page. It is “protected” because it was written in C++ which anyone with software development knowledge knows, is compiled to native machine code and can not be read the same way an application written in .NET is.
We also don’t record anything because there is nothing to record. You can look at tcp packet captures to see exactly what is going on. We simply query the search server for what you want to query then your client connects to the news server directly and downloads the files. The news server is run by newshosting.com which is by most considered the second largest news server company in the world right behind giganews.
This information is a bit hidden because we want to make the client as easy to use as possible. Like I said before, we are only 3 months, but will be making great improvements by the end of the year.
It is my hope that a 3rd with some technical knowhow will analyze the program in depth to validate what I am saying, but until then I expect users to react with criticism.
” 96 Jun 08, 2008 at 07:16 by cheribom
I think Rhever is a play on the Reavers from Firefly. Meaning they’ll rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into their clothing. And if you’re very, VERY, lucky, they’ll do it in that order.”
I cannot believe there is only a single post that caught that.
Oh, and the Reavers in Firefly were created by the government, accidentally, in an attempt to create the perfect society. (As shown in the movie Serenity)
I’d be amazed if anyone trusted “Rhever”.
Jeffrey Brisker Jr. downloaded the child porn intentionally. He likes toddlers. The news paper failed to mention that his grandparents house was also a parsonage / daycare. Brisker was surrounded by toddlers when he downloaded the child porn. His so called preacher grand pappy and grandma didn’t notice his collection? Yeah Right!
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The requested URL / was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at http://www.rhever.com Port 80
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did you have second thoughts?
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