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BitSoup Hacked Over Hurricane Fundraiser, Announces New Domain

BitSoup, one of the Internet’s most established private BitTorrent trackers, has been under attack during the past two weeks. The site has been comprised and defaced, with the hackers gifting ratio credits to site users alongside unsubstantiated claims that money generated by a recent Hurricane Sandy fund-raiser might be misappropriated. BitSoup say the matter is being brought under control and that the new year will see the site shift to a new, less vulnerable domain.

Torrent sites are not only a magnet for people looking for content, they also attract enemies. While large copyright-dependent industries are obviously interested in their activities, opponents can take other forms.

In recent weeks some of the largest torrent sites on the Internet have been targeted, with The Pirate Bay, isoHunt, 1337x, BitSnoop, Fenopy and others all hit with DDoS attacks.

What.cd, one of the largest private trackers was also hit, but they are not the only invite-only site to be hit this month. Although not DDoS-related, recently the long-established BitSoup tracker has been suffering woes of its own.

“As many members now know BitSoup has been under attack over the past 2 weeks. We have taken the steps to harden the site from future attacks best we can,” the site’s operators said in an announcement before the weekend.

The initial attack on BitSoup came in a quite unusual form but to understand that we first need to explain a little about how the site works.

Like most private trackers BitSoup operates a ratio system in which users are expected to upload the same amount of data as they take from the site. Failure to do so leads to a sharing ratio of less than 1.0. For example, a ratio of 0.7 means that uploaded data is only 70% of that downloaded.

When a user’s ratio drops below a certain amount they are at risk of being banned from the site. This situation can be fixed by either uploading more data or making a cash donation which results in a so-called “ratio credit” that brings the account above the banning limit.

What the hackers did initially was to modify site users’ accounts so it looked like they had uploaded more data than they actually had, the idea being to reduce the number of people donating to the site.

However, while some people do indeed donate to fix ratio, many users do so because they love the site and the community. There can be little doubt that BitSoup has a large and enthusiastic following that will donate no matter what.

In any event, BitSoup immediately took steps to nullify the attack by making a goodwill gesture of their own.

“On December 1st all members will get 800GB added to their accounts as a [birthday] gift from BitSoup to our great members,” the site’s operators announced.

But then, just when it appeared that the problems were over, this weekend brought more misery. The attackers, who claim to be from Anonymous (but of course anyone can do that), came back with a new assault.

After obtaining access to the site’s SMTP server the attackers sent emails to BitSoup members claiming that a recent effort by the site to raise funds for Hurricane Sandy victims was made in bad faith.

BitSoup

“Bitsoup, you have abused charity for your own gain. You have lead your members to believe they gave to help storm victims only to satisfy your own desires. You have abused the freedom of the internet, the good faith of your members and the dire needs of disaster victims to raise money for yourself,” the mail began.

The message goes on state that PayPal and law enforcement have been tipped off about the site and that the attackers now hold the site’s database. The mail was signed off by Anonymous but despite its length offered no evidence to back up the allegations of charity fund misappropriation.

Round about the same time the site’s forums and tracker were defaced, with threads created claiming that the fundraiser was fake and torrents renamed to offer a warning.

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Many users reported not being able to access the site over the weekend by now things appear to be getting back to normal.

“The MPAA has never since the day we opened our doors been a threat to us for many reasons we will not get into. We know the wankers that attacked us are nothing but brats and no matter what they do we will always come back stronger,” the site’s operators said in a statement.

“Starting in January 2013 we will be under taking some major upgrades to the site adding features and tweaking others. We will also stop using bitsoup.org as our domain in the new year to make it harder for any goverment in USA to take our domain. Our new domain will be bitsoup.me.”

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  • Dondilly

    The easiest way for a site to avoid claims of misappropriation of donations is to just link to existing charity donation pages. I’m sure in this day and age, many would use a referal system to enable different sites to track the donations they generate.

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      This shit is so clearly just a fake wind-up it’s laughable! Why so?

      Coz no-one in their right mind would EVER donate cash to a charity via a torrent site or indeed any other site except that of charity involved.

      But it’s still a freaking nuisance for BitSoup to deal with and sort out :(

      • Anonymous

        So you might think… but SuperTorrents continues to rake in the cash and Ersan enjoys a paid off IS300.

      • BobSmiley

        Bitsoup has been known in the past to not stick the funds where they are supposed to be going. I have no doubt in my mind they stuck the donations they did receive in their pockets. As far as the site being vulnerable… I pointed out security issues on their site in 08 that have yet to be fixed. They are not around to run a secure community, they are around to make a quick buck. Whether it be on their site or with their hosting plans. Several years back I was hosting with Moxie only to have them steal all the hardware they were hosting for me in their colo wing. It’s no surprise to see people attacking this POS site. As far as them not being attacked by the mpaa this is due to the fact the admins make too much money for the mpaa to attack… they have funds to actually pay for good lawyers and such so they don’t typically get bothered since one of their admins was arrested several years back and had all charges dropped.

    • http://twitter.com/LadyKate3040 LadyKate

      Russell answered I’m impressed that a mom able to make $5477 in a few weeks on the network.

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  • chronoss

    ummm…if i want to donate to a charity i dont use a torrent site….lol
    most staff at most places are arrogant sobs on a good day and some like black cats well lets just say never use that site with a gigabit seedbox or you get accused of cheating….

    • Bjxdlfdb

      Just for once I’ll agree with you on BlackCats
      That place has/had one of the shitiest admins I’ve ever seen on a private tracker, Cirno you’re not all-knowing you shithead.

      Also they love to censor comments and delete them if they don’t like them, even if no one was swearing LOL
      (was a member sice 2007 btw, let my account die 6 months ago)

      Poor guys at Bitsoup, if I said I feel sorry for what happened to you, I’d be lying :P

      • Jon7272

        i know what you mean i use a private site i no longer can be bothered going on the sites forums cant use any other torrent sites name ,cant swear, they get pissed off with double posting ,.the ratio rubbish, and admins think there god but at least all the files on there arent viruses

        • Fuckradium

          I met the cunt that owns bitsoup before, she lives in Toronto Canada. She is a complete ripoff, she steals money, her and her husband that is. And use donation money to support their lifestyle. isn’t that right radium? She hates being called by her scene name.

        • RIAAtarded

          Using a private site isnt a right it is a privilege so if they have some requirements to use it either comply with them or don’t use the site. Honestly you sound like a bit of moron complaining about this stuff. Double posts? Why? use the search function and post to the relevant thread. It keeps answers tidy, make others with similar problem easier to search and solve and updating a 1 place rather then several affair. Swearing? come on is it to much to ask that you be well spoken and respectful of others? Users won’t want to use a forum cluttered with things they find disrepectful and offensive. There are more intelligent ways to get a view point across without profanity. Ratio? it is called file ‘sharing’ you get that right. Without ratio or some kind of seeding requirements how do keep file retention? How do others get the file? Seems to me you haven’t figured out how to be a productive member of either the community or the swarm.

      • Jimmy

        I was there on loki before BS and ILT were started, been there from the start and still there now. I have seen all the staff come and go and fade into the background. There has been a few whiper-snappers there with regards to modding, but they never lasted long. I think you were one of the young disrespectful brats that didn’t read the rules or chose to ignore them. We all know the ones who never use the COMMENT section to comment on the file itself. Maybe it was me that gave you a warning or forwarded your name for one….
        The soup is a great community, its had its ups and downs but it’s a fantastic, clean and up to date site.

        • Bjxdlfdb

          What?

          I’m talking about BCG, not Bitsoup.
          Whatever, good for you for being a member for so long.
          You must be feeling very special (lmao)

        • BobSmiley

          LMAO You guys need to update your i-face. Sites with similiar iface’ that bitsoup has haven’t been around since before the 90′s. I’m glad I no longer have an account there so I don’t have to see that awful god forsaken same christmas theme again for the 8th year. If you even spent 1/100th of the money you rake in to hire a mediocre coder the site would run and look alot better.

      • Jimmy

        Poor guys at Bitsoup, if I said I feel sorry for what happened to you, I’d be lying :P

        Are you taking your meds

        • Bjxdlfdb

          Are you taking yours?

          How did you arrive to the conclusion from that line that I was ever a member at your site?

          never got a warning anywhere I’ve joined so far btw
          why don’t you get off your high horse before you fall off.

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  • TeeTund

    Just be interesting to see how that is gonna work out lol

    http://www.Tru-Anon.tk

  • Anonymous

    shame it takes something like this to spur the operators into doing something to, well, stop something like this, from happening. getting away from the USA has got to be the most sensible move for any and every site, considering the DoJ and ICE dont seem to be particular on which ones they shut down and for what reasons. i doubt even if the recent ruling i read about where closing web sites is against some part of the US constitution will matter

    • Who

      um…this had nothing to do with the US and the DMCA/RIAA/MPAA. this was just some user that got pissed off @ the admin that run the site. and the site sucked BTW. so who cares. was on it a wile back and they had the same shit I could find any ware else.

  • KeyBeast

    looks like a inside job

  • Gargamel

    It’s truly fuking hilarious to listen to you dipshits going on about these sites and how much you hate them and their Admins. I’m on these sites and know your full of shit. Just a bunch of pissed off little kids stuck on the piratebay for their torrenting lol.

    Go back to the piratebay where you belong, with the rest of the trash :)

    • Bjxdlfdb

      Always the idiot, no surpises there.

      Because YOU are on these sites, YOU know everything about everyone posting here and tells stuff that are true? If you were a member there for years like me, you’d know that.

      And what the hell has TPB anything to do with it?

      Keep on proving with great sucess what a Retard you are.

      • Gargamel

        “Keep on proving with great sucess what a Retard you are.”
        -
        This coming from someone that has a name that looks like a Chimp that banged on the keyboard and hit enter. Priceless lol.

        ps: You misspelled success dipshit :)

        • Midas

          Logical fallacy upon logical fallacy… Either learn to fucking argument or get the fuck out dumb fuck.

        • Who

          he did even type dipshit you DIP SHIT! BTW dip shit is 2 words not one. so you spelled it wrong. not that I really care. but don’t bash people for miss spelling when you can’t even spell right ether.

        • BJR

          Can’t argue so you start with personal attacks. Classy.

        • Bjxdlfdb

          keep up the good work buddy hahaha :D

        • ScrewEwe2

          Reply to ‘Who’;

          “he did even type dipshit you DIP SHIT! BTW dip shit is 2 words not one. so you spelled it wrong. not that I really care. but don’t bash people for miss spelling when you can’t even spell right ether.”

          dipshit: noun. coarse slang.
          dipshit: A stupid or inept person; an idiot.
          ORIGIN: Perh. a blend of dippy and shit.

          Out of interest, when I looked it up, The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary 2007 shows dipshit as being one word, and not two.

          Dip Shit: Not Found

          But the most important thing that most people will conclude is: Why are so many people on this thread so damn anal about other peoples spelling? It’s the thought that counts, not the freakin spelling. This post is to show that many times the grammer nazi’s make mistakes too, and who the fuck cares. If I made any spelling mistakes I Don’t Care.

    • Midas

      Yeah you don’t sound elitist at all…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

    i think you meant compromised, not comprised. third line.

  • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

    We would love to help bitsnoop avoid domain seizure. If anyone could put us n contact with them, let us know!

    • Who

      there domain didn’t get seized…hello….are you reading this at all?

      • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

        Hello yourself! Of course i read the article, but did you? You will notice a section at the bottom that says they intend to move the domain from .org to .me next year to protect themselves from domain seizure.

        If you had read my comment correctly, you would have noticed i offered to help them avoid it, in other words, help prevent it from happening. I am perfectly aware it has not yet been taken.

        • Granther

          bitsoup

          bitsnoop

          bitsoup

          bitsnoop

          B I T S O U P

        • Who

          to avoid BITSNOOP from getting seized they need to go privet and choose a new domain. but still……MU’s main domain was NOT in the jurisdiction nor was kimdotcom of the US and look @ what happened to that.

          BTW: you DIDN’T read it to well as this is about BITSOUP! and there domain never got seized, it got hacked in to.

        • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

          Yes and we are offering to help with that to the extent that they wouldn’t have to change their domain at all.

          I will say this for the last time. I have read the article and my comment is completely on topic. See the last paragraph of the article.

        • ScrewEwe2

          When I logged in and saw that they’re going to be switching to a .me domain, it made me think of Demonoid, and how well that ended up working out for them.

        • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

          As far as I know, bit off-topic, but demonoid’s demise had nothing to do with them moving to .me.

        • Anyone

          besides, demonoid seems to be returning

        • Who

          still you NEED TO REREAD IT. BITSNOOP? LOL

        • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

          I was going to denounce you as a troll but I just reviewed all my comments and now I realise the mistake. It must have been something to do with auto-correct on my phone. Apologies.

    • XxX

      And you will do this how? You have the power to stop governments from raiding someone? Yea sure you do. This is mostly likely scam attempt, i don’t give a rats ass about BitSoup, but i wouldn’t like to see other sites giving you any money for your “protection”. You want to contact them? Join the site, lol. Or email domain owner, genius.

      • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

        A few comments:

        1) We’re already doing it and have added quite a few sites to our system.

        2) We never claimed we could prevent people getting raided. We can however, help people avoid domain seizure.

        3) Our service is completely free and we have never asked for money. Not from site owners and not from end users.

        4) It is always worth a punt commenting on articles such as this one. We have in the past tried to make contact with site owners through the channels you suggested. Results vary but most of the time we never get through.

  • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

    The site is runned on TorrentBits sourcecode.
    It’s old, I used it in the past, and is pretty insecure.
    They should rewrite their whole shit, like I did -_-

    • 231e3789gq

      Mr Gazelle I presume?

      • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

        Errr no ?
        Just Power2All as I’ve been calling myself for 13 years now ?

        And I said this just because I’m running a tracker too, just not private and related to a different part of sharing.

        But basically, I’m saying they using outdated source-code which was taken over into TBDev, which is shit, since I know all the flaws in there -_-

    • Gargamel

      Wow, TB thats going back awhile. Brings back good memories :) At least it still lives on in TBy.

      • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

        heh yah, the good old times when BitTorrent was epic :)
        (And still is tbh)

  • Foff

    People who join these sites are idiots. You don’t need to be on a special site fo find anything out there. I used to think that if I wasn’t on a site I would never get certain things. I grew out of that a long time ago. Most stuff is just crap members grab from other sites and it is impossible to maintain a 1 to 1 or higher ratio and dl anything worthwhile. The admins know this and thats why they have the pay scheme to maintain a ratio. If the stupid fucking DOJ wants to do anything useful they ought go after these sites because they are clearly out to make money and not just about sharing.

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      Sadly I’d agree with this in most cases.
      They tend to think there shits made of gold, when in fact most of the good shit comes out on the public domains first, or only hours later.

      Besides there’s nothing “private” about a private torrent site in the first place, people who want to be there will find a way in (including MAFIAA agents), and the people who cant be bothered with that crap wont, simple as that.

      • Who

        um….nooooooo most the stuff that privet or open sites get come from privet china trackers or scene groups.

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          I never said anything about where the material came from. Please, learn to read.

          I’m not usually a grammar Nazi, but at least spell correctly.

      • Who

        “I never said anything about where the material came from”

        Ooh really?

        “when in fact most of the good shit comes out on the public domains first”

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          Apparently you took what you wanted from that sentence in order to make it read differently, which as not how i stated it.

          “most the stuff that privet or open sites get come from privet china”

          You only confirmed my original point.

          One key word we both used here was “most”. Which you ignored.

          Not even sure i should reply to someone with such bad spelling, I’m done.

    • 234r8236dg23

      They provide a service you tight cunt

    • Andrew Lee

      If they have a massive user database it’s easy to keep a ratio but they’re not very private if they have that many users.

      If they have a small user database it’s nearly impossible to keep a 1 to 1 especially on torrents that are not being downloaded very often.

      Some of the sites are easier to gain your ratio than others but a lot of people end up being forced to buy ratio.
      A majority of the files on all these sites should be listed as free leech to clear up the problem. At least some of them should cost nearly zero ratio if they’re not popular.

      If the site is clearly interested in freedom of information only and not using the site as a cash cow this will be the case. Piracy for money is fucking lame and completely undermines what it’s supposed to be about.

      • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

        “A majority of the files on all these sites should be listed as free leech to clear up the problem. At least some of them should cost nearly zero ratio if they’re not popular.”

        Exactly what they do on bakabt, lol. prolly the only site i know of that you can actually keep your ratio up without a seedbox or constantly seeding.

        • EternallyDissolved

          your forgetting one thing though, bakabt has a rather large user base too. although i must say i love that site for anime, its my first choice always :)

        • Who

          “in reply to your comment above”
          @ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt: LOL you edit you own shit to make you look good. LMFAO.

          “Apparently you took what you wanted from that sentence in order to make it read differently, which as not how i stated it.

          “most the stuff that privet or open sites get come from privet china” ”

          you didn’t originally say that nor did I

          “a wise man once said” LOL “wize guyz what do they know”

      • Who

        and you are a moron. LOL

      • Just Curious

        They are private in that they are members only. This helps to keep out the trash.

    • puddpuddi

      I don’t know… I upload all of the local music cd’s I buy on the private music sites, they don’t exist anywhere else online. A lot of other people do it too. Plus Private sites always max my connection with seedbox’s battling each other for ratio…

    • Picklepie

      I use a private site that gets stuff within minutes or pre every time almost without fail. I also have a basic home connection, and can still keep a ratio of above 2.0 without the need for outside seeding. So I really don’t know what you’re on about.

      I also have a paid for usenet subscription, but always fall back to the torrent site as it’s so much quicker for getting releases, and usenet is like waiting for something on a public tracker

      • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

        “I also have a basic home connection, and can still keep a ratio of above 2.0 without the need for outside seeding.”

        I guess its easy if you regularly DL the popular stuff, more often then not this isnt the case for me. There are many other factors involved though such as your ability to get peers, how restrictive your settings are, etc. So its per-case.

        • puddipuddi

          I have a home connection, and my rss feed for my tv shows keeps my ratio high enough to grab old, unpopular torrents.

        • La_resistance

          I am a member of a only bluray site and must say it is very hard to keep a1 to 1 going but the files are huge 32 gig files and my isp throttles the crap out of my internetz so I can understand where your coming from……seed til you bleed!

    • Who

      hm…seams like you don’t like to share with your fellow torrenters. and that’s Y you couldn’t maintain a ratio. LOL

      ALL the sites that I am on do NOT require you to donate and everything is just fine.

    • Blue Jello Rain

      Agreed. I’ve been on several of these sites, and because it’s “private” (Re: Not as many members as, say, pirate bay) there is much less variety. Several times I’ve searched everywhere, only to find the pirate bay had everything I needed.

  • Anon

    Bitsoup sort of sucked anyway. Not that I would want anyone hit..

  • 1hhh1

    There is really no such thing as a less vulnerable domain.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      No, but there is such a thing as a less vulnerable host who is willing to null-route connections for awhile.

  • Jan

    BitSoup imo is the most money hungry site ever. Each time i login i have a few messages in my inbox informing abt this and that offer. Maybe the hacking grp are telling the truth and i too believe that the site is taking all the money from the so called fund raiser.

    • Bill

      If it is true (which it probably is) they need to hit a few other sites that use so called donations to just run there site and not there life style. I could name a lot btw but I’m not getting into pointing fingures. Bitsoup isn’t the only site to do this and never will be. If you truly don’t know wwho to actually donate to and where to actually get your shit then you need to keep searching the interweb

  • Mr Afghanistan

    BitSoup is a bullshit torrent site, i don’t know why hackers should spend time on that useless tracker haha.

    They have nothing, copying and stealing torrents from other elite private torrent sites.

    They have nothing unique and they should go down anyway.

    • Just Curious

      Take an English class so that we can understand what you are trying to say dumb dumb.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Mr. Curious, if that indeed is your true surname, perhaps you could elucidate on the compositional errors of his ways, so the rest of us are able to avoid making our thoughts known in such an ungrammatical manner as Mr. Afghanistan has unfortunately done.

    • BeepBoop

      Even worse is their stupid uploading rules. The require everything but mp3s be rarred up… so fucking stupid since they have so many shit packs that you don’t know what kind of quality you’re getting because you gotta DL the whole thing and unpack it to see.

    • Marcvad

      looking for a site to replace bitsoup….can you suggest one please

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    If these attacks are coming from some random source, they’ll just be irritants; but, if the corporates get real about taking down sites extra-judicially, that needs an answer.

    Hope it’s just a nutjob; but, there’s been entirely too many similar attacks in the last few months. Is the insane asylum really that big?

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      Probably someone being paid to do it, or crying skids that couldnt get their way, as before.
      Judging by the size of the attacks, its prolly just skids.

  • mary effing hinge

    hey…i paid them $450 dollars for 1 million gb download limit? does this mean i get a free i pad another million gigs and a free daimler chrysler?. if so can they throw in ten years of fuel as well, oh..and road tax and insurance? fuc**k this is madness

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  • JG

    Wow… Just imagine what a 800GB upload credit would do to one’s share ratio…. If that doesn’t push you well past a 1.0 ratio then I’d seriously advise you to reconsider torrenting… Maybe try to get out of your parent’s basement & get some exposure to the sun every once in awhile….

    • Hazel

      Lolwut? You realize you don’t have to site infront of a computer while it downloads shit? Hell, I download a bunch of shit that I end up just deleting for space without ever using.

      • JG

        Yes, I know you don’t have to be in front of your computer to download stuff…. With automated RSS feeds you don’t even have to be in the same continent, or near any electronics & stuff will still download, or you can control it via your phone or tablet while your out & about. I was just being facetious and trying to point out that if the huge 800GB credit didn’t get you well past a 1.0 ratio, torrenting may not be the sport for you…

  • Bitsoup Staff Member

    Bitsoup was under attack from a inside job not an attack from any group on the net.

    it took a few days to track down the way they were doing it but as of 6pm yesterday the backdoor was found and closed. We have had no issues since.

    Some reports say db was stolen it was not

    related to dns issues the domain was set to expire and with all the issues it was forgotten to be renewed but has since been done.

    bitsoup has been around for quite a while and will be around a while longer.

  • Pand Raper

    This is pretty standard behavior for any pay2leech sites.

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  • Who

    @ScrewEwe2: it may be one word in that Dic but not in this one, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dip%20shit

    but the reason y people criticize others as regards to spelling and gamer is because they THINK that in order to have ANY credibility or smarts they must be perfect like them.

  • Guest

    @RIAAtarded
    “are more intelligent ways to get a view point across without profanity. Ratio? it is called file ‘sharing’ you get that right. Without ratio or some kind
    of seeding requirements how do keep file retention? How do others get the file? Seems to me you haven’t figured out how to be a productive member of either
    the community or the swarm.”

    Nothing wrong with ratio, but a private site taking the money in exchange for allowing users to leech more from others is wrong.

    If I share it’s a transaction between me and the peer, and I see no reason why any private third party should take money for facilitating the information exchange, or worse accept money for allowing me to leech more than my ratio.

    Some of the private trackers also have abusive policies like: Requiring registration from one’s home IP; clauses stating that an IP address = a person by holding the IP address responsible for abuse.
    Why should a private tracker have good reason to know my home IP? If Google or a private corporation imposed such a policy, we would be up in arms.

    Commercial pirates, and it’s how I regard private sites letting people to pay for upping their leech ratio, should burn in hell.

    • RIAAtarded

      Must not be a member of many private sites. There is no requirement to donate and they aren’t pay to leech. Donations generally just keep the bandwidth up and hard drives spinning. Giving the users a thank you in the form of ratio, invites etc is purely a perk and generally choosen by the user themselves at time of donation.

      As to the home IP requirement it is a security issue you need to look at the bigger picture. You want to keep the users safe and allowing a third party signup doesn’t do that. All goes back to the fact it is thier site not yours so if they have requirements that need to be met for membership then just comply with them. I’m pretty sure this is only a signup issue anyway I cant think of a tracker that doesn’t allow VPN and servers.

  • Bert Ritto

    Must say that these insider comments about Bitsoup are quite concerning. Are they really stealing fundraiser money? If so, well, I’ll be leaving the site after 300+ weeks. Seems if you try bring up anything to do with why this hacking occurred on the BS forum then all threads are deleted. Seems the staff there don’t want the truth to be told. Smells like bullshit from my viewpoint.

  • Guest

    @RIAAtarded

    “Must not be a member of many private sites. There is no requirement to donate and they aren’t pay to leech. ”

    Some are pay to leech. From my experience many of these allow the users to up their leech ratio if they make a donation to the site.

    In Scandinavia, nxtgn.org is the worst commercial piracy site.
    They receive money through Paypal and give the users leech credits.

    “Donations generally just keep the bandwidth
    up and hard drives spinning. ”

    Perhaps, but you have still not answered my question: Why should the site just like another middleman get money for facilitating exchange of information between two peers in a torrent swarm?

    If someone deserves money, it’s the user seeding the content from his own property using his own bandwidth. This is what non-commercial sharing is about.

    Your stance is hypocritical to say it least.

    “As to the home IP requirement it is a security issue you need to look at the bigger picture. You want to keep the users safe and allowing a third party
    signup doesn’t do that. ”

    Yes, I look at the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is that you don’t know anything about security.

    I can mention that a large Danish tracker Nxtgn is already heavily infiltrated by the local antipiracy organization. And Nxtgn already requires signup from home IP.

    Earlier this year, there was an article in Politiken (a large Danish newspaper) about how pirates frustrate copyright enforcement by use of VPNs.

    The antipiracy organization could only trace the seeders to VPN connections, but they knew what happened on a so-called private tracker site.

    If signup from home IP is so good from a security standpoint, please tell me how the antipiracy organizations manage to get into private trackers. These organizations keep good ratios, and no naive IP signup requirement helps against such infiltration.

    “All goes back to the fact it is thier site not yours so if they have requirements that need to be met for membership then just
    comply with them.”

    Yes, and same argument is valid for Google, Microsoft and private corporations offering free services.

    Don’t like their rules, don’t use their services.

    So if Google or Microsoft begin to use the same privacy arguments as your average private tracker, I suppose you wont complain.

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  • Mr Joybone

    Well I know several people who have either been members there or are members now. They all said the same thing – the bottom line is that there is absolutely no solid proof whatsoever that the people running Bitsoup actually use donations for what they say they do. In other words they can say whatever they like – you can never disprove them & the whole relationship is built on (misplaced) trust. “Misplaced” simply because – do you trust people you don’t know personally and don’t know anything about just because they say you part of a “community”? Get wise people! No matter what any dumb cunt/minion in here says in Bitsoup’s defence (or any other private tracker that collects donations/funds in exchange for anything from members), misplaced trust is misplaced trust and they will always tell you what you want to hear… David Hannum said it best when he said “there’s a sucker born every minute!” (look up the “real” source of that quote ‘cos it’s not who you think it is PROVING that you can go your whole life believing a lie & “trusting” in something simply because someone told you so!)

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  • Sparkyboy

    A friend who’s a member at Bitsoup just emailed me with the latest. Background – when the hacker increased “most” members’ ratio the staff at Bitsoup decided to just let everyone keep their boosted ratio (because I guess it was easier to do that?). They even made an official announcement in their forums saying “We have decided not to change any ratio’s affected by the attacks as it seems the hacker was giving early xmas gifts away Enjoy the free credit.” My friend has just told me that they have now reneged on that completely and have just very recently reduced all the ratios anyway! The biggest problem with that is that there is now people complaining in their forums saying that they were ones whose ratio wasn’t boosted initially but they have now had their ratios halved! Bitsoup is not winning any favors with its member yet again! The same old blind, dumb trusters & minions are trying their best to say they still “trust” Bitsoup but this doesn’t look good does it?!!

    Apparently after giving their excuse/reason for going against their initial promise & changing ratios back a staff member announcement finished with this comment “the only other option was to wipe all ratio for everyone and start over.” Ummm really? Wouldn’t the other obvious option have been to have stuck with their original promise to leave the ratios where they were, count their losses, keep their members happy as well as not losing face (again!) and move on?! It just goes from bad to worse!!!

  • pravin g

    yep, i just heard the same thing Sparkyboy. what a bunch of cunts alright! there really is a week-old rancid fishy smell wafting around this overpriced bowl of (bit)soup! all this talk about being attacked by amateur “kids” is just defensive propaganda from the staff there – i’m with most people i think when i say “where there’s smoke there’s fire”. whoever attacked them knew damn well what they were really up to!

  • Mr. Awesome

    I’m a member there, my account was given a bit of upload credit during the attack, and that credit is still there. Meaning, they didn’t fix the ratio’s. At least not mine.

    As for the 800 GB promise, I seriously doubt that will happen. We shall see.

    • Sonny

      Yeah not sure wots goin on there but looks like some ratios have just gone back up according to what a mate just skyped me! Said there was no announcement bout this one either. Maybe you just got your 800GB? Or maybe there’s another hack happening?

  • Woodchuck

    At the end of my e-mail it had Anonymous’ slogan.. but the last line was “You should have expexted us.” The REAL Anonymous members are smart, fluent and know how to spell. Hacker wanabees can not.

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  • Antiscum

    Wow! I’m really amazed the majority of members there don’t realise the extent of the scam @ Bitsoup!!! They boast 100,000 members. All members are currently being bombarded even more now on a daily basis by PMs & public notices promoting at least 2 donation drives a month asking for an average $25 to receive ratio boosts, custom names & other worthless trinkets. Do the maths – even if only a tiny percentage of the 100,000 members donates to just one of the monthly promotions that’s a shitload of cash! Just a mere 1% of members donating $25 nets them $25,000!!! These guys are raking it in make no mistake and after paying their bills each month you better believe they’re living quite nicely off the profit!!! Now that’d be cool if they were upfront & that’s what they told everyone they actually did with the money but they don’t – they lie, cheat & ultimately steal because of the deception. They deserve everything they get. Hopefully the next attack will be devastating or at the very least some fucktard authority busts their arse wide open (although they might actually enjoy their backend being invaded!)

    • Boyzee

      LMFAO!!! you’re right! so only 10% of members nets them $250,000 a month! wow! now times that by a few because these guys don’t only run bitsoup you know ;-) plus they don’t pay all their mods (or even let them in on the real scam) so the profits go directly to pretty much just 2 people! scum of the highest order alright! if people just think about this for a second (that’s all it takes) they can see why they were attacked. the attacker would’ve known all this – something most commenters here probably didn’t think of first before commenting. yes, it’s not just the money – it’s how they constantly deceive their “loyal” members to get it. i wonder if they’re jewish?! LOL!

    • Tomrilers

      not only are they raking it in but the money goes straight into Rexx’s buisness according to my payoal statement http://www.elitecustomcarstorage.com

  • Alan

    Bitsoup was Hacked by DragonHeart , why do you think she got booted off it,she is nothing but poison,she now runs TorrentZilla and still continues her poison against Bitsoup. She is the fraud not Bitsoup.

  • CodeBreaker

    I knew DH a few years ago and nothing changes with her,she always have tried getting her own way, she thinks she can do what she likes, inside job alright, since she was sysop and attempted to hack her own site she claimed to be home,what a bunch of crock she spills out her gob, she is the biggest liar anyone would ever meet,dishonesty is her middle name,she is certainly a twisted woman who thinks she can destroy those that try to do there best for bitsoup.

    love live Bitsoup ,glad to see finally a boot finally given to the worse cow on the net.

  • Gavin

    Beefstew would have enjoyed seeing that day she got caught with her pants down, pissing myself, torrentzilla sucks.Bitsoup rocks.

    • TheTruth

      I hope Beef is enjoying his cell time, hope he doesn’t drop the soap too many times.

      But that’s what happens when your pants are down, right.

      Of course he’s probably dropped it so many times that now he drops it on purpose LOL

      Give him a big kiss for me.

  • CodeBreaker

    DragonHeart must be so jealous to what Bitsoup rakes in, Is your jealousy productive or unproductive DragonHeart ? ,torrentzilla is a ugly site you have, try something productive by making that ugly site look like a site instead of ruuning that mouth and posting here with different names to try to make bitsoup have a crap reputation,
    For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and Only evil works for DragonHeart.

    You have very low self-esteem; You have deep issues,

    DragonHeart or X from torrentzilla you have issues, you are the root cause of evi. Long live Bitsoup, glad to now see it survives better without evil.

  • Gavin

    Who cares how much a site makes, check the promo’s on Bitsoup,Those promo’s are great,you do not see those promo’s on many trackers, For a small price you recieve a huge upload amount,seems a fair enough deal to me,go screw yourself DH, perhaps try being a sysop instead of a piece of work,i think jealousy is most certainly a huge problem with DH now she isn’t getting a share in bitsoup’s profits.Perhaps now she can not live eating so much rich food , PMSL

  • Speedy Pete

    This post made me LOL,wannabe hacker since they never really did any damage to Bitsoup but cause there own accounts to get fried,
    Where does a wannabe hacker like DH begin? may be some one will repay back the favour and that day will come if she keeps up with her crap,keep away from that woman she is so twisted.

  • m0dw3rk

    It’s truly fucking sicko, trying to hack a site they built up, its so unknown why dogs eat their own poop ;)
    Stupid shit lamers that can do such evil things,i hope they get what they deserve, wankers.torrentzilla can go fuck itself

  • CodeBreaker

    lol, I imagined her childhood was trying to eat people like an anaconda,Just promise me DragonHeart you’ll tell these storys when you make it big,NOT, You was exposed and finally put to rest,AMEN for that.

  • Anonymous

    I was once a member on Torrentzilla,never liked it,moved on to Bitsoup,been there ever since, and i have always donated even when DH was there, bitsoup is the best,shame on anyone who says different or even attempt to claim false statements out on it

  • Richy76

    With most of the public trackers closing, private ssl trackers & newsgroups is the way to go, even if you do have to pay $10 or so, soon it will be hard to get what you want with the government cracking down.

  • mokhkw

    There’s definitely something very fishy about the BitSoup Admin (radium).

    The site is down again – don’t know if it’s been hacked or not – and this is immediately after they’ve concluded their PC-VIP promotions, where you pay thru the nose to be excluded from ratio. From memory it was $200 for a year of PC-VIP.

    Naturally a lot of members went in for this & now it appears as if the site still has the same encoding issues despite continually crying out for donations to upgrade the hardware – which they claim to have done recently. Still looks and acts the same to my eyes and I’ve been involved in a few migrations so I think I can tell the difference.

    Another thing they did was introduce a default HTTP server for new content which is turned on by default in the member’s profiles. This makes it near impossible to share without a seedbox thus forcing you to donate to keep your ratio healthy.

    As an eg. with my 230kbps Upload Speed I used to be able to share any new content back to 1.2 within 24 hours of getting a new release. Now if I jump on a new release within minutes I still won’t reach more than 0.200 after 48 hours.

    Now HTTP servers are great IF you don’t have a lot of members or a % of them with seedboxes which is what bitsoup had/has. Speeds were never an issue.

    Everything the Admin has been doing lately seems like nothing more than a $-grab. The way they constantly harass members for donations, regardless of whether you’ve donated in the past, is an insult.

    I have no idea where the $s for the Sandy Relief went so I can’t comment on that, but this isn’t the 1st time Bitsoup or SuperTorrents have been accused of not sending donations where they were pledged to go.

    I donated $40 via Bitsoup to the Sandy appeal and it was claimed that there would be updates & photos about the trip & expenditure. None ever surfaced. I have no idea what my $s were used for.

    Make your own conclusions about that, but to me they wouldn’t be hiding anything IF they had nothing to hide. Bitsoup, like SuperTorrents, has had it’s share of defecting staff over the years who have claimed that the sites were ripping off it’s members. I used to think this was just sour-grapes but now I’m beginning to think they may have been telling the truth.

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