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		<title>By: zOOz</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-471845</link>
		<dc:creator>zOOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are 2 ways to stop BitThief from spying on you:
http://limboinmetropolis.blogspot.com/2008/07/bitthief-how-low-can-we-go.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are 2 ways to stop BitThief from spying on you:<br />
<a href="http://limboinmetropolis.blogspot.com/2008/07/bitthief-how-low-can-we-go.html" rel="nofollow">http://limboinmetropolis.blogspot.com/2008/07/bitthief-how-low-can-we-go.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frost</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-449371</link>
		<dc:creator>Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Odin
Ya .. I agree .. I used to be on a 56k and know how bad it is. A person dloading at 56k is not a big leech and not a threat. But imagine the bigger guys, the ones who really use bit-thief are the ones with way more than 1 meg speed. Personally, I use a private tracker and try my best to make sure anyone who uses BitThief is banned. I&#039;m not against BitThief. I am only against those fucking bastards who use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Odin<br />
Ya .. I agree .. I used to be on a 56k and know how bad it is. A person dloading at 56k is not a big leech and not a threat. But imagine the bigger guys, the ones who really use bit-thief are the ones with way more than 1 meg speed. Personally, I use a private tracker and try my best to make sure anyone who uses BitThief is banned. I&#8217;m not against BitThief. I am only against those fucking bastards who use it.</p>
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		<title>By: jcidiot</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-447850</link>
		<dc:creator>jcidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19/odin
i think dial up is symetrical... u can dl and upload at the same time. it&#039;s just sharing a movie even with superseeding...might take a while :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19/odin<br />
i think dial up is symetrical&#8230; u can dl and upload at the same time. it&#8217;s just sharing a movie even with superseeding&#8230;might take a while :P</p>
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		<title>By: WEareNULL</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-432342</link>
		<dc:creator>WEareNULL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly believe that the only reason the information is sent to them is for academic reasons. I think they are trying to find out how effective they&#039;re exploit&#039;s are and are hoping to see that soon they no longer work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly believe that the only reason the information is sent to them is for academic reasons. I think they are trying to find out how effective they&#8217;re exploit&#8217;s are and are hoping to see that soon they no longer work.</p>
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		<title>By: Odin</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-408191</link>
		<dc:creator>Odin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, stop saying &quot;start sharing&quot;. It so idiotic...don&#039;t you think the most people would like to share, but they can&#039;t afford? I mean, how can I with 56k (I&#039;m from Macedonia), how can I upload and download in the same time. It takes me ten min. to fully open my Yahoo mail, for heavens sake...how long do you think it takes me for torrents, hm?
I could swear to anyone on this world, I want to share...I share my books, my music, my movies with people, why wouldn&#039;t I spend couple more minutes to upload something important to somebody, as much as something else is important to me?
Wihtout sharing, there were be no P2P. I appreciate the concept deeply.I want to share...I want to upload. But I CAN&#039;T.
I do not like concept of revenge, but I would like all of you who sware and spit on those who can&#039;t (not on those who don&#039;t want, those we all hate) upload normaly, to be cursed for a week, with a download speed 1-3kb. I would see you then. Then you would sing a different song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, stop saying &#8220;start sharing&#8221;. It so idiotic&#8230;don&#8217;t you think the most people would like to share, but they can&#8217;t afford? I mean, how can I with 56k (I&#8217;m from Macedonia), how can I upload and download in the same time. It takes me ten min. to fully open my Yahoo mail, for heavens sake&#8230;how long do you think it takes me for torrents, hm?<br />
I could swear to anyone on this world, I want to share&#8230;I share my books, my music, my movies with people, why wouldn&#8217;t I spend couple more minutes to upload something important to somebody, as much as something else is important to me?<br />
Wihtout sharing, there were be no P2P. I appreciate the concept deeply.I want to share&#8230;I want to upload. But I CAN&#8217;T.<br />
I do not like concept of revenge, but I would like all of you who sware and spit on those who can&#8217;t (not on those who don&#8217;t want, those we all hate) upload normaly, to be cursed for a week, with a download speed 1-3kb. I would see you then. Then you would sing a different song.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharing is caring</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-249593</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharing is caring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start sharing you greedy bastards!</description>
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		<title>By: BitThief Spies on their Users &#171; Susanwc&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-184032</link>
		<dc:creator>BitThief Spies on their Users &#171; Susanwc&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fLuX</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-171805</link>
		<dc:creator>fLuX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it is as legitimate as they may claim, it seems a plague in the torrent society to &quot;hit and run&quot; or simply have a client that only downloads.  Its called filesharing for a reason ya know. =/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it is as legitimate as they may claim, it seems a plague in the torrent society to &#8220;hit and run&#8221; or simply have a client that only downloads.  Its called filesharing for a reason ya know. =/</p>
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		<title>By: raindance rob</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-166832</link>
		<dc:creator>raindance rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sorry but you cant just take someones word for something i mean sure BitThief claims that its for research but we only have their word for this i mean the internet is full of liers, fakes &amp; cheats. eg lets say that i start up a website &amp; make a program that claims to be the fastest torrent downloader on earth are u all gonna talk my word for it ?

also the fact that they didnt publish the above info should at least get alarm bells ringing. i mean why not publish this info if its genuine ? seems abit strange to me.

also the whole point in torrents is  to share so by not uploading aint u just being selfish &amp; just downloading what you want &amp; not uploading so that over ppl can enjoy it also</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sorry but you cant just take someones word for something i mean sure BitThief claims that its for research but we only have their word for this i mean the internet is full of liers, fakes &amp; cheats. eg lets say that i start up a website &amp; make a program that claims to be the fastest torrent downloader on earth are u all gonna talk my word for it ?</p>
<p>also the fact that they didnt publish the above info should at least get alarm bells ringing. i mean why not publish this info if its genuine ? seems abit strange to me.</p>
<p>also the whole point in torrents is  to share so by not uploading aint u just being selfish &amp; just downloading what you want &amp; not uploading so that over ppl can enjoy it also</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-147078</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry read the home page for the software http://dcg.ethz.ch/projects/bitthief/

They collect data from clients to data map how long it takes to download something without uploading.

They only collect the HASH which cannot be used to view what file(s) are downloaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry read the home page for the software <a href="http://dcg.ethz.ch/projects/bitthief/" rel="nofollow">http://dcg.ethz.ch/projects/bitthief/</a></p>
<p>They collect data from clients to data map how long it takes to download something without uploading.</p>
<p>They only collect the HASH which cannot be used to view what file(s) are downloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: bitthief - what is it at happy indian</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-63228</link>
		<dc:creator>bitthief - what is it at happy indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It seems that Bitthief does not only prevent fair sharing but also spies on the users that use the client. Torrentfreak that Bitthief is currently collecting &quot;the torrent hash, total size of the download, the current version of the client, total number of pieces available, and the size of these pieces&quot; which can be clearly linked to the users IP address making it very easy to idenfity all activity of a certain user. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It seems that Bitthief does not only prevent fair sharing but also spies on the users that use the client. Torrentfreak that Bitthief is currently collecting &#8220;the torrent hash, total size of the download, the current version of the client, total number of pieces available, and the size of these pieces&#8221; which can be clearly linked to the users IP address making it very easy to idenfity all activity of a certain user. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Berry</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-45658</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen up people. Stop thinking &quot;me..me..me&quot; and start thinking &quot;how will the protocol survive ?
I initially thought this was just nefarious - but as usual in life if you RESEARCH the answer becomes clear ( well..at leat to me it does ! ). I&#039;ll admit I was wrong initially and I&#039;m not ashamed to admit it !
Ask yourselves the question - why was BitThief created (and documented publically) in the first place ? It&#039;s a scientific/research based project so the developers &quot;believe&quot; their intentions are in the right place.
They&#039;re addressing this primarily at those that develop/understand the underlying protocol.
They&#039;re trying to point out to the aforementioned people (and anyone else who is interested) that from the Developers perspective there is an inherent weakness in the BT Protocol which NEEDS to be addressed.
Bottom line - ideally clients like this should never actually have been allowed to be created in the first place - the protocol should inhibit it. The fact that it was and it works demonstrates what they&#039;re talking about.
Reading between the lines I think the BitThief creators love the protocol/what it does/gives to the World and WANT it to survive which is why this work was published.
It&#039;s the Jedi talking NOT the Sith !! ;)
I might even allow a BitThief client or two in a swarm if I see one ! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen up people. Stop thinking &#8220;me..me..me&#8221; and start thinking &#8220;how will the protocol survive ?<br />
I initially thought this was just nefarious &#8211; but as usual in life if you RESEARCH the answer becomes clear ( well..at leat to me it does ! ). I&#8217;ll admit I was wrong initially and I&#8217;m not ashamed to admit it !<br />
Ask yourselves the question &#8211; why was BitThief created (and documented publically) in the first place ? It&#8217;s a scientific/research based project so the developers &#8220;believe&#8221; their intentions are in the right place.<br />
They&#8217;re addressing this primarily at those that develop/understand the underlying protocol.<br />
They&#8217;re trying to point out to the aforementioned people (and anyone else who is interested) that from the Developers perspective there is an inherent weakness in the BT Protocol which NEEDS to be addressed.<br />
Bottom line &#8211; ideally clients like this should never actually have been allowed to be created in the first place &#8211; the protocol should inhibit it. The fact that it was and it works demonstrates what they&#8217;re talking about.<br />
Reading between the lines I think the BitThief creators love the protocol/what it does/gives to the World and WANT it to survive which is why this work was published.<br />
It&#8217;s the Jedi talking NOT the Sith !! ;)<br />
I might even allow a BitThief client or two in a swarm if I see one ! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Xenocide</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-43667</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenocide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>82.130.103.73 Traced IP Address to their server. blocking that should block the data upload sent to their server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>82.130.103.73 Traced IP Address to their server. blocking that should block the data upload sent to their server.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41585</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the BitTheif site it says:

If your host is behind a firewall, make sure it can receive incoming TCP connections on port 6811, as this will improve performance of BitThief significantly.

I&#039;m guessing this is the incoming port. I have never used BitTheif, but somehow cant we configure our firewalls to block uploads on port 6811?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the BitTheif site it says:</p>
<p>If your host is behind a firewall, make sure it can receive incoming TCP connections on port 6811, as this will improve performance of BitThief significantly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing this is the incoming port. I have never used BitTheif, but somehow cant we configure our firewalls to block uploads on port 6811?</p>
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		<title>By: justanobody</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41296</link>
		<dc:creator>justanobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you selfish greedy fucks that are posting how to fix the hosts file or saying you&#039;re going back to azureus or whatever just do what we all do.....share you bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you selfish greedy fucks that are posting how to fix the hosts file or saying you&#8217;re going back to azureus or whatever just do what we all do&#8230;..share you bastards!</p>
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		<title>By: yo mom</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41184</link>
		<dc:creator>yo mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PWNT</description>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41127</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just add the 2 lines to your
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
file

127.0.0.1  dcg.ethz.ch  
127.0.0.1  ethz.ch  

and you&#039;re clean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just add the 2 lines to your<br />
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts<br />
file</p>
<p>127.0.0.1  dcg.ethz.ch<br />
127.0.0.1  ethz.ch  </p>
<p>and you&#8217;re clean!</p>
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		<title>By: BitThief Spies on their Users &#171; Cabories Digitals</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41125</link>
		<dc:creator>BitThief Spies on their Users &#171; Cabories Digitals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ernesto</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bitthief-spies-on-their-users/#comment-41122</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;41103&quot;]It is documented

[/quote]

They updated their website thanks to this article.
Try Google cache for the older version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="41103"]It is documented</p>
<p>[/quote]</p>
<p>They updated their website thanks to this article.<br />
Try Google cache for the older version.</p>
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		<title>By: BLOGical Thoughts &#187; Wednesday, 17 January, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLOGical Thoughts &#187; Wednesday, 17 January, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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