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BitTorrent Crackdown Center Prepares to Punish Pirates

In a few months millions of BitTorrent users in the United States will be actively monitored as part of an agreement between the MPAA, RIAA and all the major ISPs. Those caught sharing copyright works will receive several warning messages and will be punished if they continue to infringe. Today the center responsible for administering the scheme announced its Executive Board, which surprisingly enough doesn’t include any neutral executives.

copyright alertsStarting this summer, the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) will start to track down ‘pirates’ as part of an agreement with all major U.S. Internet providers.

Last year the parties agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are warned that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures, which includes slowing down the offender’s connection and temporary disconnections.

The new plan was announced under the name ‘Copyright Alerts‘ last year and will be implemented by all parties by July 12, 2012. As this deadline nears, the CCI today unveiled several key players who are going to lead the group.

Surprisingly, the Executive Board is exclusively made up of representatives from the RIAA, MPAA and the ISPs.

RIAA’s Steven Marks has been appointed as Vice Chairman and General Counsel, MPAA’s Marianne Grant is the Senior Vice President, Comcast’s Alan Lewine is Senior Counsel, Verizon’s Thomas Dailey is Chairman, Viacom’s Daniel Mandil is Associate General Counsel and AT&T’s Brent Olson is Vice President of Public Policy.

For an organization that aims to educate Internet users in a responsible way, consumer rights representatives are completely absent from the Executive Board.

However, the Advisory Board does include public rights advocates including Jerry Berman, the Chairman of the Internet Education Foundation and founder of the Center for Democracy and Technology, and Gigi Sohn, co-founder of Public Knowledge.

The latter says it wasn’t an easy decision to accept the position. Sohn is especially worried about the threat of Internet disconnections.

“I still have concerns about some of the points in the agreement. One of the most prominent is the threat that consumers could have their access to the Internet cut off,” he says.

“I will ask at the appropriate time for the ISPs to promise not to interpret the agreement’s ‘temporary restriction’ provision as allowing for suspension of user Internet accounts. This provision is most troubling because an individual could lose access to the Internet just on the basis of suspicion alone.”

The CCI will be headed by copyright and consumer protection expert Jill Lesser, who will serve as Executive Director. Unlike some members of the advisory board, Lesser is delighted with her appointment and is eager to start sending out the first batch of alerts.

“I am excited to lead CCI as it begins this constructive effort to reduce and deter online copyright infringement in a way that is centered on education and deterrence, not punishment,” she said. “This unprecedented collaboration demonstrates that when content providers and distributors work together we can protect copyright and empower consumers at the same time.”

As expected, CCI is mainly focusing on the educational component of the scheme, but in essence it’s deterrence through punishment.

While we now know a little bit more about the people who will lead CCI, the organization has yet to announce the company that will be responsible for tracking down millions of BitTorrent pirates. Last year sources told TorrentFreak that DtecNet got the lucrative contract, but that was the last we heard of it.

One thing’s for certain, the company that gets the contract will have to be reviewed by an independent expert to see if their evidence gathering techniques pass the scrutiny test. But even when the end-stage tracking evidence is solid, there will always be many wrongful accusations, not least because people run unsecured Wi-Fi networks and ISPs make mistakes.

Those wrongfully accused Internet subscribers have the right to call for an independent review at the cost of a $35 filing fee. These disputes will then be handled by the American Arbitration Association, CCI announced today.

While the CCI is confident that the alerts are an effective way of deterring online piracy we have our doubts. For one, the monitoring system is relatively easy to bypass through a proxy or VPN. Secondly, the multi-million dollar plan only covers a few of the many sources of online piracy.

The millions of U.S. Internet users who download via cyberlockers and streaming portals are not affected by this agreement at all, as these downloads are impossible for third parties to track.

Time will tell who’s right.

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  • Guest

    And the VPN-services rejoiced.

    • Guest

      so basically what needs to happen is a new P2P technology has to be invented

      • Anyone

        the technology is already there, it just doesn’t get much use so far because bittorrent is fine

        if this bullshit continues people will have to migrate to either VPN or other encrypted protocols that can’t be tracked.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          I’m in favour of this. I2P, darknet, etc. TOR w/ encryption. The more people jumping into more secure technology, the more the formats will pick up. right now I2P is slow as shit and there’s almost nothing there, but harsher laws will drive people there and it will improve.

          we will evolve, and let the chips fall where they may.

        • technoLust

          1) Develop IP Multicast ( to inject random ip’s ( protecting receivers)

          2) Allow packets to be received without conformation

          3) Alter sender IP info to return fake IP ( protect senders )

          4) lose seed / peer data ( liability )

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast

        • Fgfgfhghg

          thats right keep publically telling them that the next phase once they got you all on encrypted vpns is to create law that requires you to hand over keys and be monitored …ugh SHUT UP retards of the world and just do what you need too. if you aint got a friend that knows DONT do stuff.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/S3NOGCIVGFGU6ZV3RENYGBM6SM Pooter

          “Privacy is dead – get over it”
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsxxsrn2Tfs

        • Guest

          sad fact is that everything can be tracked, everything can be decrypted, eventualy. As far as VPNs go the next step in dissolving personal privacy would be to attack these VPNs and split the nut shell wide open. it will come to a point where they believe that privacy of any kind online is a threat to state or industry and eventually root it out to gain control of the information they can pillage from it.

          to a point we already see this with free-PNs/Proxies because the activity of the users may or may not be shared however the users themselves are bartered making the services almost inert.

          Its not to say don’t use them in fact for the moment those who are the most paranoid of their privacy probably should sign up for a VPN but know that there are ways that someone can track it, especially if your billing information is recorded via a credit card or a check (digital or anolog though whats the difference anymore) and eventually narrow traffic threw the host down to you. This of coarse is assuming someone is looking for you in the first place.

          I guess the bottom line is that everyone is screwed in this day and age and there isn’t anything we can really do about it other than keep our heads down. I advocate Bittorrent, the philanthropists of filesharing and the dissemination of information however it goes back to the point of these technologies and practices being perceived as threats to state and industry and these organizations are swinging back. we are putting ourselves in to the cross hairs by taking active rolls in the communities that use them. other than effecting political change or forcing industry to change how it douse business (by both limiting their political influence and changing their business model) we can’t stop the rising tides of the ocean of shit coming our way.

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      • guest

        tribler….its by far the best one out there

        • Anyone

          that’s simply bittorrent, it doesn’t protect you any more than any other client

        • RL

          I tried using Tribler, and it sucks. I tried downloading the first few episodes of an old TV show, I was getting more than 100KB/s in speed, but 1 week later, the first episode STILL hasn’t finished. Apparently Tribler downloads all files, not the ones you want. Went back to uTorrent and those episodes were downloaded in less than 2 days. Tribler’s still got a long way to go before I start using it.

      • itstheendoftheworldasweknowit

        The question is, how can you have P2P file sharing while not letting anyone see your IP?

        • 2o6538

          proxy

        • Anonymous

          What I find BT most needs is a proxy mode.

          I mean by this is that once the download is complete, and there are lots of seeds already, then let the client do proxy mode instead. Then A can bounce random swarm data through you B while talking to C.

          This one step alone would help kill their monitoring plans without any encryption being used. Proxy mode means you never store the data, never see the contents, and so act like any other lawful Internet router.

          In all this is about polluting infringing streams with lawful data. They can try to claim that you B download or uploaded the file but instead you only temporarily only saw part of it while A downloaded the file from C and friends.

          You did nothing infringing, they could not detect A, and them not being able to tell proxy data from direct infringement breaks their system. Everyone could just turn around and say “Never heard of it. I must have been my client proxy routing random data across the network”.

        • RIAA

          Sharing is easy, live in Canada, where our supreme court ruled “I can no more charge somebody with hosting a file that is copyrighted on a shared folder where others can download it, then I can charge public libraries for having a photo-copier in a building full of copy-righted books”

          Downloading is the tricky part… bring back Peer-Guardian!

      • Anon

        you don’t need any new tech.

        all you need to do is start “taking care of” the traffic for BT, hence the OP’s quote “And the VPN services rejoiced”. this is going to be a windfall of demand for them.

        as soon as you (and the rest of the people) decide to care about the traffic itself coming from your machine, it’s over. stuff like this is garbage. policies, laws, executive boards, appeals, all worthless.

        a simple encrypted connection defeats the entire thing. period. the.end.

        no more blasting your ip address out over BT. STOP DOING THAT.

        VPN can be had for anywhere from $5-$35/mo, depending. you’ll typically want L2TP, or OpenVPN, and obviously a plan that includes unlimited. and oh by the way it’s good for more than P2P/BT…how about protection while on open wifi? how about protection for your smartphone? and then some. etc etc.

        hidemyass is known for great software, low prices, and fast speeds. they are also known for the idiot who tried to hack sony using their vpn (dumba**).

        TF did an expose on a bunch of the vpn’s for BT, and even some of their privacy policies too after the HMA fiasco. bottom line though is you need servers in NL or SE basically. and you need a provider who guarantees. these fly by night guys who swear up and down their US and UK servers don’t log are just lying to you. they’ll have shitty server selection, but a ton in the US and UK (its easy to buy servers from resellers with 100mbit or gbit). those US and UK servers will have great speeds, but you’re not protected.

        go with somebody who isn’t raping your $/month, gives strong encryption (l2tp, openvpn), unlimited bandwidth, unlimited server switching, and no-logging on NL or SE servers. there are plenty out there.

        • Anonymous

          A VPN isn’t a perfect solution. I just signed up with one – to protect myself from my own ISP. Well guess what? 2 weeks later I got a takedown notice from the VPN! The MAFIAA can still follow the BT tracker…the notice just goes to a different place.

        • frogspawn

          Hide my ass co operated with the fed’s recently with to give up a ‘hacker’ they are based in the UK (thier excuse we follow UK law) and given the UK’s current ‘extradition’ law in relation to the US. I would NOT use them as a VPN as any request sent from the US will have them bending over to take it up the ass and had over thier paying customers details, but then thats my opinion

        • Anony

          just to be clear, VPN is a solution to beat CCI/RIAA/MPAA/MAFIAA.

          but, if you buy from a US based VPN (like StrongVPN) you’ll end up getting ‘cease and desist’ letters.

          or, if you use only US based VPN servers, from any provider, you’ll end up getting logged, which can also result in ‘cease and desist’ letters.

          what you need is a VPN provider not based in the US, with NL or SE servers available for BT/P2P. many, many, many VPN providers have this available.

          a couple that come to mind right away are VPNTunnel.SE and CactusVPN.

          a word on HMA: yes they turned over logs that helped arrest someone in the US. HMA is in the UK. the kid was using mostly US and UK servers. you shouldn’t be trying to hack a major corporation, and the US government, with a $10/mo VPN while connecting through servers in the US and UK. that’s just dumb. i don’t blame HMA one bit. and i still use them for my BT, no issues. i just make sure to connect to servers in the netherlands and sweden.

          and all the airvpn and other guys claiming they don’t log. bull$hit. complete and total bull$hit. you connect through US and UK, and you’re logged, period. end of story. they are obviously also logging connection times. don’t be fooled guys. alot of the VPN providers are coming here to advertise.

        • Anon

          Why NL or SE specifically?

        • Timmy

          I’ve also read that NL and SE servers are not supposed to do logging, but how could anyone really know if they do or not?
          What methods are available for verifying that they do not log?

        • Dual VPNs

          You need *two* VPN’s  Hook one to the other so you have no trail.

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    • Wupload Is Pussy

      Hello sorry people I have news for you: Just a few hours ago Wupload drop file sharing. Yea thats right WUPLOAD NO LONGER ACCEPT FILE SHARING
      BECUZ THY ARE GAY FUCKING FUCK NOZZLE!!!

      • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

        That’s because their scared of getting sued so they dropped it…they saw what happened to Megaupload and file sharing places have stopped the file sharing component because of what happened to Megaupload.

        • WUPLOAD IS PUSSY

          Last night it works ok. Now I can’t download that schoolgirl vid. FUCK WUPLOAD!

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          I think places that like have seen what has happened to Megaupload and don’t want the samething happening to them. This is why file sharing is no more on it. Many other filesharing sites began to get rid of filesharing services after what happened to Megaupload and all….plus I’m pretty sure they don’t want to get sued

    • Sketch

      Ive been saying it for years, VPN OR DIE, now its time to see alot of you idiots die cause you cant even spell VPN let alone know what one is…….oh, and i got 3 more little words for you all, they are DEEP PACKET INSPECTION, wiki that one pirates lmao.

    • Lord of the Files

      “And the VPN-services rejoiced.”

      Yaaaay! ;)

      “Those caught sharing copyright works will receive several warning messages and will be punished if they continue to infringe.”

      In many countries, all works are copyrighted regardless of their source. Browse any website and you are downloading copyrighted material. Trying to stop people from sharing everything they cache, no matter the source or content, is dumb to say the least. Humans will do what they’ve always done since the dawn of time and will still be doing until the end of time. Imagine, if you will, attempting to stop people from quoting their favorite line from a movie. That is what the war on so called “pirates” is akin to. You can try, but you’ll ultimately fail. Media is our culture, much like our spoken language is (especially the mroe colorful bits). Attempting to stop people from sharing thoughts and ideas, no matter what form they come in or whom they came from, just isn’t possible. One cannot help but laugh as they waste massive amounts of wealth trying to do just that. Just goes to show that the saying about a fool and their money is true. That cuts both ways too, so long as we keep giving them money for their shitty products (a hell of a lot of bad movies spring to mind).

    • Fred38

      Also : Let’s organize “Switch-to-indpendant-provider Days” on reddit.

      The Interwebz allow us to coordinate and to vote with our COLLECTIVELY MASSIVE $$$.

      Let’s do that like we did with GoDaddy. It’s very effective.

    • Agora Alexandria Watson

      and the NSA felt a strong sticker shock at the thought they would have to build an ever bigger spy center than Bluffdale to cope with the added decryption task of all the psp users moving to vpn.

      http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

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  • MadAsASnake

    $35 to file an objection to an unjustified allegation? I’m not in the US, but I can promise you that they would get strong words from me and no money. I suspect that we’ll see similar to France – people will simply reconfigure to other forms that this agreement does not track, or to ISP’s that aren’t in it. It’s a golden opportunity for them…

    • Silver Golden

      The same in Ireland
      Eircom was the main ISP but they blocked the Pirate Bay and went after music pirates (all details on site search Eircom)
      People have switched to other ISPs that do not have the surveillance of its “users”
      Eircom is now in receivership
      All ends well

      • Mwhahaha

        Does anyone know if any of the UK ISPs won’t be forced to give up info under the DEB?

        • MadAsASnake

          Nothing they wouldn’t get under an NPO (name and address of account holder) – the problem is that they then have to take it through patents court in the same way – IP only + bare denial pretty much means no case – which makes it all pretty pointless

        • MadAsASnake

          hmmm… I think in theory it applies to all, but in practice they’ll go after the main players.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

      $35, basically it smaxks of the ISPs getting into bed with big media to do some low price trolling.

      They make unfounded accusations and you pay approx twice the cost of a dvd for the accusation to go away.

      Dont forget neither their scheme nor its conflict resolution while it might have Obama’s backing, has nobasis in law.

      I would take the same stance with this as one would against hostage takers who demand a ransome for the release of their abductee (the abductee in this case being your net connection). Long term you can not afford to negotiate with them or give in to their demands. If you do, they will only be back for more and their demands will increase.

      In my book, with their current tactics the MAFIAA are the equivalent and no better than Somali pirates holding ships crew and cargo to ransome. People and companies paying up have only increased piracy and the amounts demanded to release hostages has only increased.

      The MAFIAA has the nerve to call us pirates

      • Mwhahaha

        So you pay them $35, then what? They take asecond look and go “nope, we think it was definitely your IP address”, and you still get disconnected?

        Is there anyway each of the accused can charge these idiots $35 just to accuse them of being pirates? See how they like that.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

          If you read another post I have made on this article. I would sue the evidence company for libel/defamation, after all they are the ones passing worthless evidence to the MAFIAA and while their scheme works on the assumption of guilt, the defamtion/libel case would restore the burden of proof.

    • Anonymous

      I look forward to them trying it. That is, assuming the judges don’t laugh this out of court. What are they going to charge people for? the same conspiracy that got tossed out?

      oh right, nothing.

    • Guest

      That’s MAFIAA strategy to make easy money.

  • Fgdf

    VPN… so simple.

    • Mwhahaha

      I agree, but that’ll be the next target. Laws to insist VPNs keep all logs.

      The law the UK is looking at atm is fucking insanely scary in its scope regarding spying on its own citizens.

      Just LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE ALREADY

      • ahhhhhhh

        foreign VPN, good luck ordering them to keep logs.

        • Katalyst

          In time of need, let’s turn to Russia. They always enjoy delivering sauce to the US government.

        • karthur

          they’ll just get blocked. Very simple. In fact I am sure that is exactly what is going to happen.

      • Anonymous

        People do need to wake up and to see their Internet and their privacy is under threat while multiple Governments and private organizations try to power-grab control of any and all Internet data.

        Sure you may say you have nothing to hide now but that may quickly change at any time for any reason including political activism against the very rights you are losing.

        Even the USA trying this in total violation of the Bill of Rights like to say this is about monitoring everyone but US Citizens. The flaw in that plan is that if other countries like the UK run a similar scheme then if the US ever need US Citizen data they can just ask them. They also need to be able to track US Citizens to be able to exclude them.

        It seems they have forget that people have the right to privacy in their own homes and the vast majority have no terrorism in mind. They keep pushing and it is only a matter of time before the Internet declares independence. Or would they really reject self-determination and democracy?

        At least the UK Parliament rejected this idea the last time it came up.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/S3NOGCIVGFGU6ZV3RENYGBM6SM Pooter

          As was said a decade ago, ‘Privacy is dead.’
          Get over it, noob.

        • Masterc73

          the guy at Sun Micro systems that said that “a decade ago” really did a 180 when a hacker copied a bunch of his files, the man was arrested. privacy is not dead. These self elected, self righteous, “hackers” have a lot of nerve telling us what is what.

    • FBI RATS

      So unnecessary when you think about it. We shouldn’t have to hide are IP’s and waste money on a VPN.

    • MadAsASnake

      Hey folks, nothing wrong with VPN, but these IP trawls are so random, you’ll probably be getting scare-o-grams anyway. I noted somewhere that there has to be proper disclosure and peer review of the tracking system. That should be fun, and I’m pretty sure it’ll be fudged – no-one neutral / pro-sharing will be permitted to see it…

  • Arbiter Pwner

    All hail VPN.

    • MadAsASnake

      Amazing… people will be paying money for VPN that they’d have willingly parted for for a sensible streaming service. MAFIAA doesn’t recognise an income stream when they are slapped in the face with it.

  • DontWantToPayForVPN

    So even if using private trackers, we’re screwed now?

    • Anyone

      if you’re not using a VPN or other means to encrypt your traffic, yes

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/S3NOGCIVGFGU6ZV3RENYGBM6SM Pooter

        Says the guy working for a profit raking VPN service.

    • DutchGuest

      Probably more like if you get caught torrenting something that can be easily ID’d, so as long as you force encryption and stay off places like the Pirate Bay, you’ll probably be fine.

      • Mwhahaha

        It would be good to get an idea of their strategy. I’d assume atm they’re just basically using the top trackers from the biggest public sites to catch people.
        One net in a few huge pools.

        However any private site is open to infiltration at the drop of a hat, even what cd with its three-ring-circus entry dance.

        Perhaps a retreat to private sites whilst they catch the noobs and uneducated might serve you well for a while.

        • noooomore

          well, thanks to http://btdigg.org/ they don’t even need to bother monitoring trackers…

      • Guest

        just use the pirate bay and get torrents through a proxy. :D

    • Bleeps

      Depends on whether they’re active in those swarms or not (probably not for the most part).

    • FBI RATS

      Switch to a smaller ISP that isn’t cooperating , that could buy you a few years

    • Marley

      Not AS screwed, but still visible. VPN + Private Tracker = Cake!

  • Anon1

    Time to dish out for that 1 year subscription of BTGuard.

    • Guest

      Still wont help u out bru, im afraid.

      • Anon1

        Why’s that? Do explain….

        • 50cal

          bcuz ur a cheesy spammer thats why

        • Anonymous

          I signed up with HMA a couple weeks back and still got a takedown notice. From HMA. THEY got the e-mail from the MAFIAA. Now they didn’t share any logs because they don’t keep any, but I got all this language about “terms of service” and such. The MAFIAA can still follow the tracker. I’ll stick with Demonoid exclusively for awhile and see what shakes.

  • Anon

    It’s safer to do file-sharing in :
    USA ?
    China ?
    North Korea ?
    Iran ?
    Saudi Arabia ?
    Russia ?

    • DutchGuest

      In Soviet Russia, File Shares You !

      • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

        ROFL!! Caught me off guard with that!

        • DutchGuest

          What can i say, i saw an opportunity for some lulz and took it… ;-)

      • Katalyst

        I lol’d

    • Desu75

      Always love it when Anon compares the US to some of the most fascists countries in the world. That’s like trying to comfort someone with cancer by saying: “well at least you didn’t ingest cyanide.”

      • Anonymous

        Well, it is a bit worrying that ordinary citizens are bullied for these fairly innocent practices in the US and France more than in certain less civilized countries, don’t you think? The weak are traditionally better protected from the strong in civilized, free countries than in those with a very strong state and less regard for the individual.

    • High Protection

      China probably, as they really don’t give a shit about copyrights (yet). Russia second. North Korea/Iran/Saudi Arabia may be a little more restrictive than those two, but probably not for financial reasons. USA (LAND OF THE FREE) last for sure.

    • khaled

      saudi arabia?

      i live in Saudi Arabia and file sharing is totally legal with 100mbps fiber connection
      nothing to worry about over here they only block porn sites and some political websites

  • Anonymous

    what about Utorrent users?

    • µsr

      What about µTorrent users?

  • Anonymous

    double post

  • Solo

    Looks like the french “3 strikes law” HADOPI.
    You’re welcome :p

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Yet more censorship and breaches of civil liberties by fascist USA Inc. The World’s best ever #corruptocracy.

  • Anonymous

    So the NSA is building a giant facility in Utah to store and monitor all our internet activity and phone calls. The UK is passing new laws that will allow them to read emails, and now we have private corporations monitoring our internet activity like a cop under an overpass waiting to catch us speeding. Why isn’t anybody trying to stop this?

    • Desu75

      Because they think it will only hurt criminals.

    • Accelerator

      What are you doing to stop it?

    • Guest

      New World Order

      • Darkhog

        …is a bullshit.

      • Mranderson585

        Spot On!

    • Guest

      What can you do about it? If you petition the white house with tens of thousands of people, they’ll just say “no”. If you take the streets in protest, they’ll say you were disrupting the democratic process, that it was a sad day for democracy, and they’ll just pass another bill.

      There is too much money involved in this. People do crazy things for money.

    • Frogspawn

      They released the news on april the 1st in the UK, the bbc ‘have your say’ was rather busy with some decalring ‘april fool’ it has to be,

      While others were saying it will make the UK population the same as china.

      Fact is the coalition goverment we have in the uk allready has a PROVEN RECORD of bare face lie’s … e.g. E.M.A, being removed after being promised not to be touched , the NHS ‘no top down re-orginasation’ then the NHS bill

      Whats really sad is that today an ex head of the chief constable org has stated his disaprroval of it saying it and i paraphrase here ‘takes aways the freedom of the 99.999 %’ and it is not worth sacrificing the vast majoritys freedom

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    I was thinking the other day about most of these 3 strikes schemes.

    The powers that be know full well that the evidence is not in their favour hence the presumption of guilt being reversed as it is impossible for the account holder to prove a negative.

    I was thinking of possible tactics against such measures.
    What sprung to mind was that upon accusation, the account holder sue the body providing the ‘evidence’ for defamation and claim for consequential damages relating to any disconnection or restrictions.

    The point being that in the defamation/libel case, the company concerned would have to stand by and justify their evidence, something we know they are incapable of doing.

    Also in the case of the USA as the ISPs are so ready to get into bed with the MAFIAA (how many ISPs are now owned by media conglomerates such as fox/warner??). Where they try and make the account holder solely liable, how many ISPs provide the user with the router to use on their service? I dare say many even insist in their terms and conditions that you only use the supplied router or at best state they will only support the routers they supply. No domestic router gives detailed usage logs to enable an account holder to identify what family member or 3rd party has accessed (many SMB routers dont either).

    The fact that inlight of their new obligations on users, the routers they supply are nolonger fit for purpose could be a valid defence though it will probably need someone to take their ISP to court to prove and enforce it.

    • MadAsASnake

      Even if you can trace the PC end-to-end, it is stillimpossible to identify the person sitting at the computer. IP will never be able to do that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

        yup, it was an important point raised by judge Birss in the UK acslaw case. Copyright infringement is against an individual and you cant imply that the account holder is responsible.

        Aside from the usual cases of error or spoofing, even if the account holder authorized a 3rd party to use his/her connection it does not follow that they gave authorization to infringe. The account holder even if the identity of the infringer is known is under no obligation to assist in making the claimants case for them

        • MadAsASnake

          And as IP cannot identify the person sitting at the computer (the only one that counts in UK law), it is totally wrongheaded to allow any scheme that relies on IP. I’m surprised that Arnold allowed a subset of the latest GEIL NPO precisely because of this, though he pretty well neutred it.

      • Anonymous

        It won’t matter…they’ll just trace it to the person paying the ISP bill and hold them accountable. Whether they did it themselves or not.

        • MadAsASnake

          Not in the UK they won’t. The law here is very explicit. You have to have performed the act or authorised it (the legal version, not some vague social version). If you were not at the computer (impossible to prove) and did not tell someone else to do it (even more impossible to prove) then you are not accountable.

    • Anonymous

      I wonder about these 3 strikes rules. A well known seed box/dedicated server service provider is based in France – a place that made the 3 strikes famous.

  • Guest

    They would have to pay. To prove their innocence.

    THEY WOULD HAVE TO FUCKING PAY. TO PROVE THEIR FUCKING INNOCENCE.

    THEEEEY WOOOULD HAVE TO PAAAAAAY. TO PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE?!?!?!?!?!

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU.

  • Guest

    They would have to -pay-. To prove their -innocence-.

    THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY. TO PROVE THEIR GODDAMN INNOCENCE.

    …….FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

    • http://twitter.com/N0M4dIC Dany B. Drolet

      I rarely approve comments with so much caps in it. But, this time…

      FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…

    • Desu75

      That’s the way it’s always been. In criminal law, many people take a plea bargain because they can’t afford a real defense.

  • Daniel

    If I set Outgoing Encryption to Force in uTorrent, will that get around this crackdown?

    • Anyone

      no

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630502326 Liam Kirsh

        Why not?

        • TLN

          Your IP address is still reported to the tracker so when someone starts the torrent you are in the list of peers to leech from. The problem is the fundamental nature of torrents makes this information visible very easily. Though, using private trackers has kept my life simple. Public trackers already pose an insane risk because all media companies need to do is scrape a bunch of torrents and BAM they have you.

  • Twilightcoents

    Yeah im already protected, im using this program and it works great http://btguard.com/?a=tnet

    • Icwotudid

      btguard is shit. get a vpn instead

      • Anon1

        They have a VPN as well as a Bittorrent proxy service…

        • Icu

          still shit……. coz ur a bunch a spamming twats masquerading as usrs

        • Anon1

          Fuck you “Icu”, I ain’t spamming you little fuck.

      • Dreadfiles

        btguard is a VPN

        • Marley

          I’m no troll, and I have been using btguard for about a month. Very happy with the consistency and speeds, and I can take my laptop to open WiFi spots. Of course I would NEVER use it for illegal purposes. At least what I consider “illegal.” I disagree with the general government on this regard. OFTEN.

    • Name1

      Twilightcoents … everytime I see comments by that username they ALWAYS involve spam… fuck off with that affiliated link.

      But BTGuard is a good service considering they don’t keep logs…. but still, don’t spam.

  • Cum

    Arbitration is a terrible idea.

  • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

    Ok I’ll see their threat with a class action lawsuit DEMANDING ALL Films, Television & radio programs, Books Magazines Newspapers & other printed works EVER printed, or produced in ALL media formats be made available for purchase by every man woman & child on the Planet. in short these folks MUST set up a warehouse holding 7 billion copies of every Publication, musical or spoken word performance, Radio, Television & Motion Pictures ever produced from around the world. Granted this will cost these companies trillions of dollars to comply with if they go with hard copy YET one digital copy can be recopied trillions upon trillions of times.

    • Mwhahaha

      No, makes no sense to me.

      Anyone?

      • /b/loody flies

        me either……………….bizzare

  • SomethingTroll

    VPN is annoying because of the slight speed decrease etc..
    What I recommend to all US internet users is to hack the crap out of your neighbours Wireless Connection (Hoping its OPEN or WEP at least) Torrent a couple of artificial crap like lady gaga or some shit like that
    Job done.. your neighbour will be punished.
    The mayhem will give you that good feeling inside and it’s all fun yehh

    • http://twitter.com/N0M4dIC Dany B. Drolet

      I don’t condemn hacking your neighbor, as it is pretty fun and harmless if you don’t do dl. Even if everything in the vicinity is WPA, you can easily identify the one which isn’t technophobic enough to let the ISP guy set the router to an impossible 60 digit code but still not geek enough to set the right password. With a good dictionnary, you might be able to crack it in a day.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, after a year or so when you’ve managed to get them 6 warnings…. oh the mayhem!

  • DutchGuest

    Meh, torrenting is still the bottom of the Warez foodchain.
    People will move to other P2P, go back to FTP/Usenet or Warez sites, not to mention leech accounts on topsites will skyrocket.
    Piracy will continue, and people might go so far as to fully boycott the big media just on general principle.
    Piracy 12 – Big media 0

    • http://twitter.com/N0M4dIC Dany B. Drolet

      IMHO Warez is dying. Easyshare-style site are being raided since the Megaupload disaster.

      • Anyone

        it is not dying
        it is just evolving (one might argue devolving, since we are going back to older methods)

      • DutchGuest

        Just because some bitlockers are taking a nosedive doesn’t mean all Warez sites will die out.
        They will find ways to go on, as they always have and always will.
        Pic sort of related; it’s what the pirate credo should have been from the getgo

        • Marley

          Stealing that for an avatar! :)

    • Marley

      Already boycotting.

  • guest

    just use tribler…it’s virtually impossible to track

    • Colten

      correct me if i’m wrong but tribler doesn’t make you anonymous or whatever… it just gets rid of the need for torrent trackers/websites….

      so either way, they can still trace you.

      • Anyone

        yes, tribler is just a bittorrent client with a fancier search

        it shares all personal vulnerabilities of other torrent clients, it just can search torrents without the need of a central site.

  • No one

    Does anyone actually think that forced arbitration is a fair process? Many of these handpicked arbitrators have decided in favor of the company (and against the consumer) nearly 100% of the time.

    http://www.citizen(dot)org/publications/release.cfm?ID=7545

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      That is actually a major concern and one that is going to go unnoticed by almost all. It’s a token effort at placation, but it might as well not even be there, as arbitration, as it currently stands, is a joke.

      Arbiters are hired by the company in receipt of the concern, in this case, hired by the CCI (so hired by the MPAA/RIAA). Arbiters don’t get paid if they don’t get work. They don’t get work if they’re not offered work. And the hiring organization (MAFIAA) are responsible for offering them work. As such, it’s in general in an arbiters’ best interest to arbitrate in favour of the guys paying their bill, or they won’t be invited back to arbitrate. And I think it’s more than fair to say that the MAFIAA will do everything in their power to win all arbitrations, in the same way that they use their money to influence politics currently.

    • Dennis Nilsson

      Your link doesn’t function!

  • Fanden

    So let’s all make a deal. Keep pirating like crazy. And they can’t do shit about it.

  • Andy

    Is it just me but… see if you accuse x % of your users for copyright violations regardless of if it actually occurred you force them to pay the 35$ to defend themselves with a defense will not exist can you can’t prove it wasn’t you, this is regardless of the face that they can’t prove it was you either. This sound exactly like a legalized racketeering and extortion.

    They creative gate keepers need to die there is no need for them at all. Im a programmer write stuff for free give help for free cause I care not because of the money but because I actually value knowledge and progression. According to the gatekeeper I’m the minority well actually I think I’m part of the majority!!!

    • Handy

      Do you have a family, mortgage, car(s), and bills to pay for?

      I’m guessing not…

      • Beverlywaliga

        handy
        u sound like a right wing asshole

      • Andy

        yes I do, normal situation but I spend to my means. I don’t need paying to use my own time to give something back. It’s a sad world when you think everything must have a price associated with it.

        maybe your just like these other idiot monkeys and think when there is no direct cash inivation will stop.

        • der Kopf

          Nice spelling there Handy Andy

      • Andy

        yes I do, normal situation but I spend to my means. I don’t need paying to use my own time to give something back. It’s a sad world when you think everything must have a price associated with it.

        maybe your just like these other idiot monkeys and think when there is no direct cash inivation will stop.

  • Volntyr

    Funny, at first I thought CCI was talking about Comic Con International but it appears that another company actually owns the trademark “CCI”
    http://www.cc-institute.org/more/about-us/copyright

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LUVP6IHO46KLKCDGFZBLZQII5U Lécio

    Thankfully not reach the Brazil …

    Many thousands share every day, which will be the punishment for so many? 1 dollar or one day in jail?

  • S?awek

    “the multi-million dollar plan only covers a few of the many sources of online piracy.”

    Quite a lot of money, it almost sounds as if someone has made a living for themselves.

    On the other hand the problem is misaddressed. From the perspective of copyright owners the issue should be not political but technological. Just like there is constantly more solutions to share files and distribute them, you’d rather need to innovate in technological manner and invent countermeasures. If people discover that when they try to share copyrighted material it simply doesn’t work, for example because the file gets deleted automatically by itself every time, they are more likely to give up their attempts.

    And please don’t tell me, you can’t do that. It simply requires constant work. You can beat even Tor if you want. But the folks above aren’t accustomed to thinking that way obviously – taking a lot money in for a lost cause from a desperate industry, who wouldn’t want to get on board there?

    Personally I’d like to see all the networks wiped clean from pirated content. It would shift the attention of users away from mainstream junk towards important things hopefully.

    • http://twitter.com/N0M4dIC Dany B. Drolet

      From what I have seen, the more DRM-filled it is, the more pirates will try (and finally succeed) to crack it. I don’t agree with your ideas for a lot of reasons which I will not discuss here. However, what I want to say is that DRM and other copyright enforcement technologies will only give more power to the holder and less to the consumer, since the copyright holder will still have power over a bought product.

      • S?awek

        I’m not talking about DRM. DRM is a completely misguided approach. Use case: a user uploads a pirated copy to media fire, the file can’t be shared, the service fails. That’s what I mean. Much simpler than taking over governments, punishing users, terrorizing NZ, etc.

        • Anyone

          that is DRM
          if you cannot do what you want with YOUR file it has DRM, simple as that.

          your approach is just as misguided as any other form of DRM, it simply does not work, people will always share

          the only approach that works is to compete
          simply offer a better service than the various piracy sites and demand a reasonable price and people will buy from you instead of pirating the content.
          look at netflix, hulu, itunes or steam for examples, all their content is easily available for free on the net, yet they still make a profit.

        • S?awek

          No, the file doesn’t need to have DRM to accomplish that. And I can think of three different ways, how to do this and only one of them requires some more cooperation from a site than take down requests, but it would have the effect of instantaneous failure indeed. And none of the methods violate privacy.

          Of course people will always share, they share because they are fans, it’s in their nature.

          netflix and hulu are inaccessible in my country. itunes and steam fail to deliver content in original english. I suppose while I”ll be waiting for hulu to work here, my country will be invaded by the US or at least few of my folks will end up in US correctional facilities.

          I agree competition is a good weapon, but as it seems not easy to communicate across an ocean.

        • Anonymous

          If you want to use Hulu, the BBC, and other foreign sites, use a proxy/VPN (I use Tunnelbear for UK and USA, free 500–1500 MB/month, € 5 for unlimited). You can have it set up in five minutes. And I think many anonymizing VPNs also let you pick country servers.

        • MadAsASnake

          So how do you think this will work? People sharing are not going to follow such schemes. Why would they? You seem to be assuming everyone uses iTunes and NetFlix….

    • Anonymous

      You will never beat the fact that DRM does not work for one reason and one alone – in order for the file so protected to work at all it needs to be played back. If it’s played back, any peripheral can monitor and catch it.

      Hence the only solution is to ensure that no one may own a personal computer over which they possess administrative privilege. Good luck with that.

      Speaking as someone rather familiar with technology, I’m telling you that as well-intentioned as you may be, your solutions is in effect dead in the water. China already tried something similar. They gave up on it.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone provide us with a link to reviews of Various VPN’s and I will link that to the friends and fans I have on social networking ?
    I do remember there was at least one here but forgot the link.
    Thanks in Advance

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  • BRANDAN

    FTP FTP FTP FTP SOME ONE MAKE A FTP SERVER!! AND SHARE THE ADDRESS THEY CANT DO SHIT TO IT!!!!

    • Desu75

      Sure they can. It’s centralized sharing and is obsolete.

    • 2o6538

      retard

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  • Barack Obama

    everyone hammer the network making it harder for them to trace you and faster seeds for everyone!

    • 2o6538

      retard

  • Nastierthanthemitsme

    “RIAA’s Steven Marks has been appointed as Vice Chairman and General Counsel, MPAA’s Marianne Grant is the Senior Vice President, Comcast’s Alan Lewine is Senior Counsel, Verizon’s Thomas Dailey is Chairman, Viacom’s Daniel Mandil is Associate General Counsel and AT&T’s Brent Olson is Vice President of Public Policy.”

    Yummy! A lot of juicy targets. Cool!

  • tonyj

    This won’t end well for both the MPAA and RIAA. Piracy has everything to do with illegal downloads but has nothing to do with the Film and Music industries profits. Made up causation and correlation of studies and positing posturing pontificating ingrate peanut heads will not prevent the demise of their profitable but largely ignored, despite their effectiveness, ad hoc marketing pirates who voluntarily and gladly expouse the latest content for Media companies.

    This is the beginning of the end for the MPAA and RIAA when they realize their increase in profits are in direct proportion to how much pirates download.

  • Mwhahaha

    Does the movie industry have its profits reduced most by:
    a) pirating
    b) government bribes and technology to prevent piracy?

    • Desu75

      Not sure as far as movies go, but I know I am not buying a PS4 if they keep this half-cocked idea of not allowing anyone to play used games on a machine.

    • noone

      Evidence suggests they spend WAY more on their show of force against pirating than they actually lose due to it.

      • Anonymous

        Do you have a link? I’d be interested in a study about this.

        • Anyone

          since they lose nothing due to it any amount spend is more than their losses

  • afrosiculi

    See this the BS I’m talking about, and my cousins wonder why i been hording and collecting movie and TV show torrents for the last couple months. that’s OK, I have stockpiles of media for my fellow pirates, up to about 8tb worth and I’m gonna spread them with tribler and retroshare damnit. I love all you pirate bastard, down with business and gov.

    • Rufo

      We need to meet up. I have an extensive collection my self that is organized to the T. I have over 5TB. We should talk.

  • anonymous

    Can you just use a seedbox to download then just download from your seedbox? Or is that still exposed and need a VPN?

    • Anyone

      then your seedbox will get the letters ;)
      just have that one outside of US jurisdiction and you should be fine

  • limewireguy

    Limewire Pirate Edition + VPN = No worries

  • foff

    Another technology will arise. This is nothing more then a cat and mouse game. Regular torrents will become obsolete making this whole agreement and organization a moot issue.

    I remember the days of forums and how hard it was to get into the vip section to have access to the best ftp’s with the highest speed. This process was mean’t allow only the most trusted. Sometimes it worked well and sometimes it did not. What we need is torrent software that bans a list of ip’s from the swarm. If this org could not get access to swarms they could not monitor.

    Aside from that they could not possibly monitor all torrents as in the past they will focus on current and popular tv shows and current movies and a few other selected items like a few disney movies.

    As for my self I am preparing to invest in a vpn. This will not stop my downloading it only force me to find other ways. But what really bothers me is the invasion of privacy. I am not a programmer but why can’t they find a way to block monitoring programs from seeing ip’s. If all ip’s that joined a swarm were encrypted then any monitoring software could not see the real ip. I believe pirates will soon find a way to make monitoring of torrents impossible making this organization and agreement moot and irrelevant.

    • Desu75

      But what is to prevent an ISP from monitoring your downloads? That’s what they’re starting to do. That’s why encryption is so important these days. Pretty soon private trackers won’t protect you unless they are RARd with an odd name.

      • 2o6538

        What ISPs are doing, or starting to do that?

        • Desu75

          Right now it’s the unis and ISPs that service them or the surrounding area. I suspect all major ISPs will do it soon. They’re already monitoring for the government.

    • Anonymous

      Have a look at this

      http://www.stealthnet.de/en_index.php

      Basically, both queries and data are shuffled over multiple nodes with not one node knowing which client the request originated from. So even if you can see the ip you are connected to you can only say it’s unlikely that ip is the originator of either the query or the transmitted package.

      As a seeder, no one knows you are the one seeding, nor do you know who originally requested the data. As a receiver you have no idea who you in the end got the data from.

      The principle is similar to TOR with a few added twists. I expects to see a lot more clients with the same functionality out there pretty soon.

  • Ireallyhatenetflix

    I gotta say I am finding pirating less usefull then netflix nowadays

  • Damnimgettinold

    All the shit going on in the world today and piracy is the main focus. Time for the governments or rather the people to force the governments to deal with the real issues going on around the world. Glad i raped the webz for decades of shit to watch! lol

  • Desu75

    XDCC bots, USENET, BT via VPN or proxy… I think I’ll be okay. Let’s hope VPN providers and sites like this one spread the message on bypassing this infringement of privacy so that the novice Internet user isn’t taken for a ride.

    • Lolcatz

      You forgot the glorious seedbox. So much better then a VPN if you only bit torrent.

    • Maka

      Can they even track XDCC? Does the MPAA and gang even know about XDCC?

    • Desu75

      They could have their own XDCC bot but it’s highly unlikely. You can never really 100% guarantee your safety, but you can mitigate your risk significantly. It’s far unlikely because it’s a slow way to find downloaders. Placing a bot in a swarm and sending out emails to ISPs is largely an automated process and it produces many thousands of IPs in one popular swarm.

  • RIAAtarded

    A lot of the comment posted are missing the bloody plot here. I get tired of reading about VPNs, servers etc as a stop gap to circumvent these implementations that are a violation of your right and privacy. You don’t need a VPN you need to actively oppose this crap being put in place in the first place. It is time to be proactive not reactive. Do you think that spying on your online presence is a good thing? Once the infrastructure is in place what is to keep it from being expanded past piracy? Who is the gate keepers of all this data and how secure is it? We all know the collection methods are spotty at best so do you honestly think this is a positive thing you should let them do? If they sue fax machines and dead people how exactly does your VPN stop that?
    What your doing is giving up your right to due process, privacy, unlawful search and seizure , hell i’m not even a yank but I see several constitutional questions here. So add your name to any of the massive petitions out there this isn’t a piracy issue at all It is an attempt to control you and how you consume media and it is at the expense of you basic rights and freedoms so get off your ass and lend your voice. In the end we are the consumers and voter and as much as they’d like to ignore us they can’t. Unless of course you bury your head in the sand / VPN.

    • Desu75

      As long as voters are sheeple who vote on bullshit issues such as abortion, then the US will be beholden to corporations. I would love to see an answer to this, but the Constitutional rights have always been stepped on.

      • DutchGuest

        Perhaps Rick Falkvinge was right when mentioning the 4 boxes…
        Maybe it’s time Americans take back their country from the corporations, and by force if need be (though knowing how spineless these corporate muppets really are, i doubt it’ll take much force at all).
        I for one would cheer them on with much delight.

    • Guest

      Well said; I agree completely. Just because you can step around something doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. I don’t even use BT (why would you if you have a right to legal usenet downloads) but all this rubbish is just too big a violation of basic rights.

  • http://twitter.com/Wasson_C Wasson_C

    Am I wrong? Wasn’t there a ruling in California that an IP address is not a person? How will this be legal if the isp disconnects a connection when it wasn’t a person who was being targeted. There will be a short fight over this and the MPAA will ruin their reputation and loose future audiences more than they already have. Plus when consumers find out they are subsidizing this because an industry can’t figure out how to do business. This will be seen as extortion.

    • Anonymous

      I would like to know this too.

  • Beyond The Black Stump

    God, that Jill Lesser sounds like a sanctimonious bitch.

  • Anon1

    Pretty soon the ISPs will catch on and ban the use of VPNs.

  • Srslywut

    Is there any list of ISPs that are participating in this?

  • Cantstopus

    My neighbor is about to get a LOT of letters. HAHAHA

    • Desu75

      Now they interrupt your service and send you to a site that requires you enter in the account number and go through a screen agreeing never to do it ever again (or they don’t turn it back on.) and then it can take an hour or more for it to come back on.

      • Guest

        He probably uses neighbour’s wi-fi and does not really cares what happens to such a dumb neighbor who doesn’t bothered self with protecting wireless access, effectively giving internet access to whole world on his behalf.

        While doing so is kind, you can be held liable for other ppl actions though.

  • Jon Cable

    “These disputes will then be handled by the American Arbitration Association, CCI announced today. ” LOL arbitration is strictly for suckers! The sucker being YOU!

  • Winter

    Guess this is only affecting the Americans? Good thing I am not, then!

    • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

      Read what I said Winter…

    • Beyond The Black Stump

      It actually does affect international folk, there will be less seeders.

  • John

    Remember some time ago when similar systems were implemented in parts of asia and europe and many of us doubted that it would happen in the US.

    But this is worth watching to see how it goes, a lot of things could happen and it could be a marking point for the future.

  • John

    One more thing that seems slightly overlooked.
    “users in the united states will be actively monitored as part of an agreement between the MPAA,  RIAA and all major ISP’s”
    If you read that carefuly there are two big things to note:
    First, it is only an agreement, it means there’s no law yet and second the agreement is only with the “major ISP’s”.

    Thus there is nothing really, really stopping an ISP that didn’t sign into this from not letting the MPAA and RIAA monitor his user’s internet activity.
    Sure, expect the lonely ISP to be bullied a lot but all it would take is one brave ISP.
    And one can expect the worse, like more draconian legislation being pushed, a lot of bullying and dirty tactics agains the ISP and maybe issues and preassure on its users but the fact that there is still a chance through sheer free market is a nice hope.

    Setting up an ISP service ain’t easy but it will be a grea opportunity, being the only guy that promises to respect your privacy would be a huge selling point for any small and emerging new ISP.

    • MadAsASnake

      and sooner or later (probably sooner) they are going to be sending unjustified letters and schemes to Senators, Representatives, Judges and so on. Once that starts, it won’t last long.

  • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

    Don’t think just because your not an American this won’t affect you. If your caught downloading content the US controls well you’ll be screwed….so in essence that will have an impact on you international folks whether you realize it or not (its called extradition to the US if your caught download copyrighted infringing material that’s from the US…you know darn well the US will try to do something like. They’ve done it before sadly)

    • myfake

      with respect
      they can suck my dick

    • Beyond The Black Stump

      Julie B, you would have to be a massive pirate to get an all expenses paid trip to the US. Im pretty sure law enforcement in other countries are usually more worried about real crimes then a 16 yo downloading Game of Thrones episodes.

      • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

        well how do you explain someone from the UK getting extradited to the US just for posting links to copyright material? explain that one

    • The Muss

      That doesn’t make sense.

      what if you’re downloading torrent and it’s seeded all over the globe.
      US can’t do anything

      • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

        well if you download part of it that’s seeded from within the US then I think they could do something…and sadly some other countries have started to follow suit in what the US is doing (I think Ireland wanted to do something similar to the US but instead of six strikes I think they wanted to do a three strike thing in their country)

        • The Muss

          Yeah Ireland is way too easy to control. It’s small country so U.S. will be able to easily defeat Irish. BTW I live in Ireland

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          Wasn’t your country wanting to do something similar to what the US is gonna do…I though somewhere they were considering it….

        • The Muss

          Are you talking about ACTA?? if that is there was protest in city centre against it

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          Would love to see a protest against here in the States….

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          ugh, typo and left out a word….meant to say I would to see a protest against it here in the States. There

        • The Muss

          Wikipedia, Mozilla they protested against SOPA. Anonymous attacked FBI. Do you remember? That was good too.

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          I know about that…good news is at least there are some petitions out there to stop this and such which is a start at least

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          I mean to stop this and things like ACTA and the US Government’s latest bill CISPA I think something on the scale of the SOPA/PIPA protests might need to be in order (and this doesn’t mean hack government websites and such….)

  • anon

    does this only applies to bittorrent only and not third party download such as mediafile, rapidshare…etc..?

    • MadAsASnake

      Gaping holes everywhere, seems to be BitTorrent on some ISPs only

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  • ANON

    While not perfect, private trackers + encryption pretty much defeats their whole plan to monitor what I am doing. Yes I use a TON of bandwidth but what is being transferred is encrypted, I try my best to use SSL trackers & sites but not all trackers have that option more need it.

  • Coldtoon

    The millions of U.S. Internet users who download via cyberlockers and streaming portals are not affected by this agreement at all, as these downloads are impossible for third parties to track. a total f**king lie!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    We already have the infrastructure, it’s I2P. Anonymous torrent, forums, sites, trackers etc…

    What is missing are only the users. C’mon join now.

    • karthur

      There aren’t any users because all of these encrypted services are utter shite. Too slow, too complicated, they will NEVER take off. I2P has been around for something like 6-7 years..

      • Anonymous

        That’s because I2P relies on a web if trust which in itself is vulnerable. You need fully anonymized clients with tunneled encryption.

        And actually, those clients already exist and are as user-friendly as kazaa was.

        Something like this will more or less guarantee a migration.

  • Whatever

    If you haven’t got a vpn now would be an idea!

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  • Anonymous

    MPAA and RIAA in bed with the US government. How much longer before they are given .gov domains?

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  • Rod

    US of A, the land of freedom…RIGHT?

  • Anonymous

    sorry if i have missed something here but
    1) are the US internet users aware of what is going on?
    2) what are they doing/going to do about it?
    3) how many users will be ‘sacrificed’ before there is retaliation?

    • ETERNALLYDISSOLVED

      just one if i get a letter. its quite simple, first of all brighthouse(my isp) is not on the list, so i may just be safe. however, considering their hap hazard detection methods and the high likelihood of false positives, i could still get letters. however, even if we have contracts with our isps, those contracts do not extend to third parties, a new contract would be necessary. so how can you be bound to binding arbitration by dtecnet, when you do not have any sort of contract with them?? without a change in the laws, you cant be bound to it, and reserve your right to sue. i would in a heartbeat, my employer offers a service called prepaid legal, so i have access to an attorney without needing the funds to hire one, all i can say is let e get the letter, and i promise you torrent freak will be reporting on my retaliation!!!

  • Anonymous

    USA…The land of the free. Oh wait. Why are you monitoring people?

  • SneakyBeaver

    so in fact, this whole scam will only profit VPN companies as I can read up. Nice, will probably start my own^^

    • MadAsASnake

      and ISPs that haven’t agreed to it.

    • DutchGuest

      Need any business associates ? ^.^

  • harry krishna

    tanks for tip on i2p. installed without a hitch on ubuntu

  • Luckyd2039

    I do not need P2P, filelockers or hell even the internet to be a pirate. All I need is a library card.

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  • karthur

    First of all, turning on encryption DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING YOUR IP ADDRESS. Is that clear? Dtecnet or whoever it will be just connects to the swarm with the same encryption!!!

    A VPN service will enable them to see the IP address of the VPN service you are using. How much do you want to bet on the length of time the service will last if there is a high degree of infringement traced back to it? You can’t hide behind a VPN service, they are mostly all required to log, and your information can be got. Rogue VPN services in far off countries will end up getting blocked.

    • Anonymous

      And the answer is to implement onion routing and randomized TTL on query from within the clients themselves.

      This already works and there are fully functioning examples like stealthnet available.

      So…the bullets you describe? They are already dodged. And to answer the next question – no, I foresee no possible alternative as to how you’d break even client-client connections with multiple tunnels without also breaking the internet core functionality.

      We’re about to approach crunch time. Afew years ago I would have considered it impossible, but there are only a few more steps needed until the internet becomes usable ONLY by filesharers and people using the same methods.

      • karthur

        No one will use any of these services. They are complicated, slow, slow, slow, need to be installed, may have router issues, will have bugs allowing things to be traced (just like TOR), etc. The more logical and likely scenario is that people will switch to server/client plantforms where a monitoring service can’t get in the middle of…

        I will concede that if something really slick is released, it could gain traction, like Winny and Perfect Dark in Japan.

        • karthur

          oh but then again that will never happen here, since if that was the case the crook portal sites like TPB wouldn’t be able to make their ad revenue…that is the big issue preventing this from happening.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage

          You have an interesting perspective on this.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/S3NOGCIVGFGU6ZV3RENYGBM6SM Pooter

      “Privacy is dead – get over it”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsxxsrn2Tfs

  • Anonymous

    lol, here is a big Middle Finger Salute to the BitTorrent Crackdown Center lol.
    Surf-Tools.tk

  • The_wolf_252000

    So if information is noe illegal to share what happens to libraries? Does the government have to pay for the trafficing of books, movies, and audio throughout the nation? I think we, the people, should sue for discrimination, illegal wire tap, and invasion of privacy.

  • z00000m

    So aside from being presumed guilty until proven innocent, it’s going to cost you $35 to “attempt to prove your innocence. Something is seriously f’ed up in this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Brazell/100002034890242 Sean Brazell

    I’m glad Charter is my internet provider….they have NOT signed up for this bullshit.

  • Fgfgfhghg

    you damn idiots realize TOR IS NOT SAFE, its called a transparent proxy GOOGLE the damn term and learn its NOT SAFE….they lied about lolsec arrest and they still are monitoring some of the anonymous people from it …its how they got a few of the people.

  • http://twitter.com/darnstadium Classified

    With the UK’s recent variant of “Total Information Awareness” aka “Monitor everything that moves “just in case” someone breaks the law” I confidently predict that by the time the Olympics open people will have to register their 3G/wifi device’s identity with some agency or other or risk imprisonment.

  • Player711

    Is “retroshare” a way around this problem?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/S3NOGCIVGFGU6ZV3RENYGBM6SM Pooter

    I began using TOR and my ISP immediately called me up and gave me ‘the talk’.
    We know you’re downloading blah blah blah blah. Which obviously isn’t true.

    I could even hear the echo on the phone line, so I know they were recording me. Embarrassed the shit out of them, I imagine, over that. Anyways, TOR can apparently send up signals to your ISP. And, it shows you had intent. That you knew you were doing something that needed to be hidden. Of course, you could say, you just wanted privacy. And yr ISP can just say, well we just wanted to see what you were being so private about. IF they find nothing…you never know they were looking. But, they still know what you’re doing. Whatever.

    I’ve got more music (legally) (ahem) than I could listen to in two lifetimes.
    If anyone I know wants a copy, I may be open to making a mixtape or something.
    A data dvd. Until then….c’est la vie.It’s been fun. Sorry kiddies.

    • Anonymous

      What your ISP “knows” is that you have heavy encrypted traffic. What they don’t
      know is how to take customers into court on the basis of such “evidence” without having an organization like EFF or ACLU sue their pants off all the way to the Supreme Court. The real mystery is where they get the balls to harrass customers with no actionable proof whatsoever.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage

        I’m just too old to be going to court over something that’s no longer a big part of my life. When they start taking down political blogs or stuff of that nature, I’ll fully mobilize… the motivation…or, um, something. Then, I’ll care. But, over some old bullshit? Some free music, as I see all my friends doing? Frankly, it seems like obsessive greed to me. Basically, on both sides. And I’m not too worked up over it.

        As they say, ‘results vary’.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage

      Feel the same way.

      I’m just too old to be going to court over something that’s no longer a big part of my life. When they start taking down political blogs or stuff of that nature, I’ll fully mobilize… the motivation…or, um, something. Then, I’ll care. But, over some old bullshit? Some free music, as I see all my friends doing? Frankly, it seems like obsessive greed to me. Basically, on both sides. The record companies AND the kids with 15 external HDs of shit. And I’m not too worked up over it.

      As they say, ‘results vary’.

  • Jah Fou

    I wonder if my ISP will not know the difference and fuck with me when DL’ing a linux iso, which i do often. How about when using private sites? If so, a big FUCK YOU will ensue and a VPN it is. Being pretty well hidden already without a VPN I’ll wait tho until i get my 1st letter just to see how deep they go.

  • The Muss

    Once it’s ISP. You’re doomed. Whatever way you download you’re still using internet from ISP. Let’s say you download 20gb file. They don’t know what it is but it’s quite easy to guess …PIRATE.
    You’re getting internet from ISP not the black hole

    • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

      *nods* Basically you won’t be able to download anything without them thinking your pirating something. So basically this happens it means no download period essentially speaking unless you have internet from an ISP that will not be taking part in this. Good bye internet as we know it essentially speaking….oh yea, there is also something called ACTA or did u guys forget about that

      • Anon

        And at that stage we all change our subscription to the lowest tier the ISP has because there’s no need for 100MB connections to read email, browse the web etc. and before anyone mentions the legal ways to watch ‘old’ movies at just over 4 euros per viewing there ain’t gonna be a huge demand for bandwidth.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage

        Bit of a slippery slope if you ask me. If you’re downloading 24/7… wide open, that’s not the usual activity for someone not ‘trafficking’ massive amounts of stuff. I supposed some businesses may do that, but most people puttering around online only download a few pdfs and or maybe a small video or two. Not 30mb/sec for 24 straight. Know what I mean?

        • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

          well what happens if your downloading a bunch of distros or something and that’s using a lot of bandwidth and such?

    • CLL

      If you’re using a VPN, all they can see is encrypted data coming through. They won’t know if you’re downloading pirated video files, or legally watching movies through Netflix.

      • The Muss

        I don’t download videos at all you can watch them on Internet. I only download software from torrents.

        If they put filter I can still download trial and the apply crack to it. You know cracks are very small.

        I think I’ll find my way out. Funny thing is that I live in Ireland and I use Hotspot Shield VPN to access U.S. websites like Hulu

  • http://twitter.com/RosalineAng_24 Julie B.

    there other are some other countries that I read want to do something similar….there is also something called ACTA too that many countries are signing too or did u guys forget about that?

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  • Anonymous

    1. Don’t put too much faith in VPNs. Ultimately they’ll be a central point of failure and are usually forced to comply with the law in their country. Instead, you need a network that will allow encrypted data and peer-proxy-chains with variable (2-3) hops (with proxying switched on by default so users can feign ignorance if they ever get hassle for being a relay).

    2. Deep packet inspection isn’t that much to shit yourself about, the headers change with each relay. (Only the last hop needs to know the real recipient address and nobody need know the actual source because the source sends packets as if it was relaying them – in other words, the uploader and an unsuspecting relay would look identical). As for the data, all encrypted.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NVZMNMCKMIPXTAY73W4EVLRRE Chris

    Well back to mIRC everyone and downloading from private people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NVZMNMCKMIPXTAY73W4EVLRRE Chris

    Is it just for BitTorrent program or does it apply to all Torrent programs like uTorrent

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NVZMNMCKMIPXTAY73W4EVLRRE Chris

    Where is ANON and lulzsecurity now? You would think the hackers would rise up and cause these organizations lots of issues.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      didn’t lulzsec go to jail?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage

      Better yet, where’s the dozens of ‘hydra heads’ rising up after BTJunkie fell?
      Weren’t there supposed to be a wave of people to fill the gap? Not seein’ it.

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  • Guest

    I can safely say with certainty that I’m going to be getting a VPN once this goes on the books. I’d much rather have to get a monthly subscription to a cyber locker or two and still use bittorrent than have my net throttled because i download Ubuntu and my demos form somewhere else than Cnet or SourceFordge. just because I’m using bittorrent doesn’t mean that I’m doing something wrong.

  • Dfsdf

    My ISP isn’t participating – nice.

  • Fake

    So does the RIAA and MPAA plan to pay the cable company $150 a month per user?

    Because people won’t pay the cable companies any more when they do this.

  • Anonalonalon

    Haven’t seen anyone bring up Spoofing/”Borrowing” Ip addresses used by members of congress to get letter sent to THEM. Once they start getting falsely accused and disconnected I’m sure this agreement will be forcibly broken.

  • Guest

    They can’t stop file sharing without taking down the internet. Worst comes to worst, people will start using programs that stenographicaly encode and decode files into videos and images.

    Someone will give you a link to a youtube playlist, you point your program at it, and it downloads and extracts the hidden files

  • Anonymous

    APRIL FOOL, PLEASE :D

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HM4RLTIOLCJ2KJWJXLR47JJYFM Wade

    my friend’s step-sister got paid $20185 the previous month. she has been making cash on the laptop and bought a $438900 condo. All she did was get lucky and work up the instructions shown on this website (Click on menu Home more information) http://goo.gl/wVHrC

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  • M A V 91890

    LOL well July 12th is the time to register with any VPN who loves to take your money and not ask questions ;)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LYU24UMM4J2P7VAGTB3SNX77PI Wallace

    my roomate’s step-mother brought home $18478 last month. she has been working on the computer and got a $324200 condo. All she did was get lucky and put to work the clues explained on this site (Click on menu Home more information) http://goo.gl/L5SaH

  • Anonymous

    my classmate’s ex-wife brought home $12259 the previous week. she been making cash on the computer and bought a $368600 home. All she did was get lucky and put into work the information given on this site >>> http://makeonlinecash2.blogspot.in

  • Guest

    Long live the censorship and total control. That’s what USA “democracy” looks like.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OF23QPKBJZBW5WBDLE7S5YEFH4 Annomous

    well rip internet it will go wayside do you think people will buy your movies your music
    and you all in holly wood will go fkn broke cause you caused the internet to crash
    and
    IN THE END EVERY1 IN THE UNITED STATES LOSES
    CRASH GAME OVER

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YJ2UM3ZGCIFIYKQO662HXDE6Y4 Frank

    my neighbor’s step-mother got paid $21368 last month. she is making an income on the internet and got a $364800 condo. All she did was get fortunate and try the clues revealed on this site (Click on menu Home more information) http://goo.gl/FH1Z2

  • Anonymous

    my buddy’s step-aunt brought in $13924 the prior week. she is making cash on the internet and got a $448000 house. All she did was get lucky and work up the information explained on this website >>> http://makecash11.blogspot.in

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DMEJCCVJIM3BXUNR6EASZQCA3Q Willie

    my roomate’s sister brought in $20265 past month. she makes money on the laptop and moved in a $460800 house. All she did was get fortunate and use the clues leaked on this web site (Click on menu Home more information) http://goo.gl/ibWnQ

  • ZQQI

    BlackVPN (OpenVPN) all the way. Plus PeerBlock. Cheap and easy. Get VPNCheck Pro to ease the use of OpenVPN.

  • Anonymous

    my friend’s ex-wife earned $21037 the previous week. she is working on the internet and moved in a $341600 condo. All she did was get fortunate and put into use the steps given on this web site… http://cashathom.blogspot.in 

  • Anonymous

    DPI is mainly used for throttling (in marketing terms “traffic shaping”). The ISPs can detect BitTorrent traffic if unencrypted. What Rogers has done in Canada (and Bell too IIRC) is to throttle all encrypted traffic since many users detected the throttling and started to encrypt their data. DPI can at least do that currently. Essentially, you’re right though, it’s impractical to decrypt in real-time for millions of people. However, if you become singled out (as Anonymous members may have been) they can likely track things down.

    Leveraging proxies, VPNs, private trackers, encrypted torrent transfers are all making you a harder target to detect. Like car theft, no car is thief proof, but if you’re car looks like a pain in the ass to steal, it gets a pass. Of course, if it’s a Ferrari and someone really wants it, then tough luck. We have to remember that a lot of the folks getting nailed for file sharing are usually pretty unaware of what’s going on (like Kazaa users of a few years ago.)

  • Anonymous

    Retroshare works if you can trust the people you connect to. I’d say it’s secure technically but you need to share with people you can trust. It’s truly peer-to-peer. This raises the issue of content – do the people you know and trust, have content you are looking for?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z6W3R73Y6XZ574A47PJMEPIZRE Elisabeth

    my friend’s mother-in-law brought in $12940 the prior week. she is working on the internet and got a $368400 home. All she did was get fortunate and put into action the instructions given on this web site  (Click on menu Home more information)  http://goo.gl/b8Un2  

  • Wqrf2wg

    Everyone just carry on as normal.  They cant afford to get all of us.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IFQZNP5DRFZKFLW6XMOCVBXTVU 64k a Day

      Do you have your head in the sand, or what?
      Look around, the scene is shrinking by the month.
      There are no hydra heads waiting to spring up.

      Moving on…

  • Rugova

    start using the OFF System:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFFSystem

  • Carsgofast369

    So I have a question…i’m new here to this page (sorry I’m a noob) but I really need some advice.  My parents got some notices from Comcast in the mail threatening them in regards to their IP downloading torrents (torrents that i downloaded)….my issue is that I’m bi and that the explicit description of what i downloaded from a NON-COMCAST site that I had no idea would become public knowledge to my parents because I was unaware that Comcast was basically playing big brother and watching over my shoulder as to what i was doing on my own laptop, have no outted me to my family.  I’m depressed, scared, and disgusted….I’ve got all these horrible feelings swirling around right now and they didn’t need to happen if Comcast had at least been a little discreet in their notices!  How can they be allowed to do this?!  Would they have any accountabilty if I had lost it and killed myself because of this?  How do they know this doesn’t happen to people?  Nice to know they’re perfectly ok with pissing all over an individuals basic HUMAN rights, just to protect a bunch of money hungry corporations who are so obsessed with the war on “piracy”.  I’m sorry but when i was a kid, my friends would all let eachother borrow cds and make copies…that’s really what filesharing boils down to….and that was never illegal.  If you didn’t want people to do what we’re doing, then you shouldn’t have entered the digital age in the first place.

    can someone reply to me personally with some answers on this?  is there anything we can do to fight against this type of thing!  I’m scared of what might happen for other people like me that this might happen to!  carsgofast369athotmaildotcom

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