Here’s a very relevant related article…

When you have enough for an album. Release high quality versions of the songs. Your die hard fans would appreciate a sonically pleasing song.

Free giveaways is a marketing technique but ultimately you have to sell something.

Like the free carpet cleaning – but in the end you would have to pay to have addition rooms cleaned. At least you would see that you will be getting an excellent job done.

But I use to buy downloads from the real player store before I knew about about file sharing – they have 30 second samples of music – usually that was enough for me to make a purchase.

Getting the whole song is like getting the milk so why buy the cow?

Then you are also trusting that most of the people downloading will say “hey I’ve downloaded enough of this bands music for free its time I buy the album.”

Analogy: If a new restaurant gave out all of their food away for free day after day – why would a customer come in and say let me pay for this?

Of course the name of the restaurant will be buzzing – Free food but one day they will have to make money even to continue to give away free food.

If an artist spends money and records in a studio,pays session musicians,mixes the song, and masters it – this can be
expensive on a per song basis.

On the other hand if the artist does all the work on their own then production cost is less and giving away all their music makes sense.

here’s a comment from digg for you…

It’s funny, When big names like Reznor, Joss Stone, or radiohead speak in favour of filesharing, the antiP2P crowd say: “They’re just saying that because they can afford to, think of the smaller artists!”

When smaller artists do it, they say “I’ve never heard of them, so who cares what they have to say.”

It was that reason I purchased a couple of albums through Amazon. When I take my son to Disney this summer I hope he’s playing a show in Orlando, as I would go and pay to watch him play.

Regardless of the scale of success. He’s gained a fan. +1 is better than 0 or -1.

who???

last fm plays, most popular track last week, 58

big time

We got off track in our discourse. My blog is about artists doing the work they do and having to give it away for free, and finding ways to expose the artists who are doing exemplary musical work in all styles and genre. My initial entry was 11 paragraphs. We have been going back and forth (I really did enjoy it) about the last paragraph.

I respect you opinion. Set the bar high. Uphold your standards.

Respectfully,

Dr. Jae

if you didn’t have to sift through the “crap,” how would you know what was good? i thought searching for good music was part of the fun. you want all the music you don’t personally like to disappear so you don’t have to do the work anymore?

You have to admit though that there IS a lot of crap our there that you wish you did not have to filter through to find something truly inspiring to you.

Peace & love,

Dr. Jae

What we’re arguing is that a) people like this aren’t doing their jobs well enough, and b) free digital music makes these people redundant. I don’t need these people to sort through music and decide what’s not worth my time anymore. Besides, the people you’re defending who’re “discovering” new artists and pre-packaging them for me are doing a lousy job and I don’t like what they’re discovering. They’re the ones trying to shove the Pussycat Dolls and the new U2 album down my throat, and I’m not interested. What digital music really means is that I can do the job of “discovering great music and great artists” that I’m interested in better than you can.

yeah, you’re right. if you make a song no one wants to hear, no one will listen or buy it. doesn’t mean it’s not art. bad art, sure. to you. but still art.

you’re the one with the inflated ego, calling art you don’t like “not art.”

Peace & love,

Dr. Jae

“Just because technology has made it easy for people to record, doesn’t mean that their latest purchase at Guitar Center qualifies them as artists.”

Yes it does. Everyone is an artist. It’s up to you whether you like what they create or not.

Really, Let’s talk

I have been a music industry professional for more than 20 years and have been privileged to participate in just about every aspect of our business. I believe that the new “social economy” where music has become “free” has done a lot of good which allows a new line of independent artists to have a world-wide platform from which to display their talents and works and to let their voices be heard. How artist wield this new power is also up for discussion ie “where is our Marvin Gaye, and Bob Dylan”. “With wars and socio-economic issues breaking out all over the world, where are the artists who are documenting WHAT”S GOIN’ ON?” Get my drift? More conversation on this another time…….

As with any open market which is unregulated, you will encounter a myriad of products to file through before anything touches a nerve. When you do discover a song (art)that draws you in, it will undoubtedly be the product of someone who painstakingly took the time to connect with what was on their mind, then he or she skillfully wrote those thoughts down and crafted lyrics that stated an aspect of the human condition ,that we hold common as people, in a UNIQUE and creative way. Then they found a way to use the technology (which no matter what DOES carry a cost and requires a high degree of skill) to DOCUMENT (record, overdub, mix and master)this thought in a caring way with the highest level of musicianship, craftsmanship,and fidelity that artist was humanly capable of. All of this performed in an attempt to share a glimpse of life, from the artist’s perspective, with other human beings who may have missed it during the process of conducting the order of their lives.

Listen, Water should be free. It is the most abundant natural resource on our planet; yet we pay for it. It is a utility. It costs money to process in order for us to be able to benefit from it. We buy it in bottles. There are communities and families who depend on the jobs which are a result of our need to access water. What if water became free? How would we keep it fresh? Could we depend on untrained people to process the water for us? What about the families of the people who produced the water we needed?

When you buy bottled water, they don’t let you get a couple of free bottles to try it out first do they? A company who did that too much would certainly not survive.

OK so I know that you are saying well music is not the same as water, and you are probably correct. But have you ever thought about what the world would be like WITHOUT great and inspiring music? I think the world would feel a tremendous sense of loss. Music is for the enrichment of the human spirit. Without it we would feel less human.

I find that there is enough access to free music via streaming online to justify the “try it before you buy it” line of thought.

Perhaps music should become a utility like water. We all just pay our monthly (music) utility bill and go freaking nuts downloading, using , and sharing all the tunes that we love with one another.

The people whose role it is to discover music must enable music to progress by supporting (by approving,sharing,participating and purchasing) artists’ work. Artists must re-commit themselves to creating great musical work and continuing to raise the bar regarding their personal artistic growth. Websites where digital music can be accessed must work to allow space to musical visionaries who merit special attention, and to streamline the discoverers’ browsing experience by eliminating alot of the lower quality, devoid of creativity crap that inhibits great work from being discovered.

Just because technology has made it easy for people to record, doesn’t mean that their latest purchase at Guitar Center qualifies them as artists. Especially, when there are talented people who have committed their lives and risked everything to be worthy of the hard task of discovering great music and great artists.

Let’s talk about it.

- Jesse (Dr. Jae) Tolbert,COO
Vurbia.com…Life in the Entertainment Age

I have been a music industry professional for more than 20 years and have been privileged to participate in just about every aspect of our business. I believe that the new “social economy” where music has become “free” has done a lot of good which allows a new line of independent artists to have a world-wide platform from which to display their talents and works and to let their voices be heard. How artist wield this new power is also up for discussion ie “where is our Marvin Gaye, and Bob Dylan”. “With wars and socio-economic issues breaking out all over the world, where are the artists who are documenting WHAT”S GOIN’ ON?” Get my drift? More conversation on this another time…….

As with any open market which is unregulated, you will encounter a myriad of products to file through before anything touches a nerve. When you do discover a song (art)that draws you in, it will undoubtedly be the product of someone who painstakingly took the time to connect with what was on their mind, then he or she skillfully wrote those thoughts down and crafted lyrics that stated an aspect of the human condition ,that we hold common as people, in a UNIQUE and creative way. Then they found a way to use the technology (which no matter what DOES carry a cost and requires a high degree of skill) to DOCUMENT (record, overdub, mix and master)this thought in a caring way with the highest level of musicianship, craftsmanship,and fidelity that artist was humanly capable of. All of this performed in an attempt to share a glimpse of life, from the artist’s perspective, with other human beings who may have missed it during the process of conducting the order of their lives.

Listen, Water should be free. It is the most abundant natural resource on our planet; yet we pay for it. It is a utility. It costs money to process in order for us to be able to benefit from it. We buy it in bottles. There are communities and families who depend on the jobs which are a result of our need to access water. What if water became free? How would we keep it fresh? Could we depend on untrained people to process the water for us? What about the families of the people who produced the water we needed?

When you buy bottled water, they don’t let you get a couple of free bottles to try it out first do they? A company who did that too much would certainly not survive.

OK so I know that you are saying well music is not the same as water, and you are probably correct. But have you ever thought about what the world would be like WITHOUT great and inspiring music? I think the world would feel a tremendous sense of loss. Music is for the enrichment of the human spirit. Without it we would feel less human.

I find that there is enough access to free music via streaming online to justify the “try it before you buy it” line of thought.

Perhaps music should become a utility like water. We all just pay our monthly (music) utility bill and go freaking nuts downloading, using , and sharing all the tunes that we love with one another.

They don’t claim they made “Millions of potential losses” and try to sue people into forcing to give it to them. They find their own way to use the current trends to their favor and cater to the potential clients.

Good job, and good luck Zabriskie.

“The Loudness War”
http://turnmeup.org/

this article doesn’t prove anything. it’s one oafish-looking nobody’s opinion on file sharing. no more, no less.

Yeah, thousands of dollars!

Or, less dramatically, any computer from the last 10 years with a built-in audio jack.

when are people gonna get it in their thick ass skulls that just because music is downloaded off the internet that it’s “stealing”? if anything, this article proves just the opposite. downloading music is really a form of research, so that we the people are more educated as to who sucks and who doesn’t suck, and based on our individual musical tastes, we are able to find out what new artists we like and do not like.

TY
http://www.privacy.at.tc

http://www.ucubd.com/Index.aspx?id=695&cid=x01000102

That said, I beleive the way forwards is in the past to be honest.
Sell Vinyl, advertise via MP3.”

Agreed – for those that can experience vinyl properly (ie. listen to it on a reasonable quality amp + speakers) it offers a better experience that can’t be replicated via piracy… the sound is warmer and doesn’t have the kind of “hard edge” that digital samples impart to music.

The cover art is better as well.

Once you’ve used Usenet there’s no going back… superior, totally.

-5,025,916 individual files including:
298,501 TV episodes, DVD & packs; 298,990 XviD, x264 & DVD movies; 70,072 PC games; 82,236 console games; 2,795,270 music releases … etc.

-Fanatical community request systems: if you request it and it’s out there, someone will post it for you.

-Pre-times to equal the very best private BT sites.

-Every single file full speed – always.

-Every file available for 240 days, increasing to 400 days 1 day per 24 hours this year.

-Completely safe and secure: **AA (or anyone else) cannot snoop on users downloading habits.

After using Usenet every P2P method of obtaining files seems juvenile and half-assed. All files in one place, always full speed, WAY more content than any BT tracker (2.7 million music files – eat your heart out what.cd).

Bottom line is: people that know what they’re doing and like content know that Usenet is the best way by way to get content online. Beating any private tracker experience and making BT look like a kiddy playground.

Open up a world of content not seen anywhere else barring topsites – join the experts and join Usenet.

Oh right, whatever, thanks for your scintillating analysis that doesn’t make sense.

If he loves music so much why would he give it up exactly?

And for some reason you keep making some ridiculous mention of musicians being “pious” and “humble” and just wanting to “make enough to support themselves” when the article makes no mention whatsoever to this being possible as well as stating that “more people will make a living off it”