Comments on: BitTorrent Host Loses in Court, Site Moves to Sweden

By: Will

Will — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:49:12 +0000

Am I the only want that thinks this is stupid: “hand over the personal details of the site owner to BREIN.”.

Guess this Judge has never heard of Identity fraud.

If I was going to host a torrent site I would use a stolen Identity. That simple. So if your provider does get ordered to handle over the details the incident victim will get blamed instead of you. Of course the Judge probably wont buy the whole “he stole my identity” bit so your be in the clear. To be real sneaky transfer ownership of the site every so often to another person in a different country. Make it really hard to trace it all back. :)

By: http://TehConnection.eu

http://TehConnection.eu — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:43:09 +0000

If your looking for a site that is completely safe & secure, and is in a real safe haven check out

http://TehConnection.eu, Sweden’s laws are diminishing! CANADA IS THE FUTURE!

By: Typhoon

Typhoon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:04:45 +0000

lol, BREIN is doing some weird shit
they don’t have the powers like the RIAA but they act like one

BREIN is just a company, so can’t we take it down? cuz hey, they are just a company

By: Tutsumi

Tutsumi — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:33:38 +0000

Um, wtf? Sweden = wiretap.

By: Pistol

Pistol — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:26 +0000

Where else is “safe”?

Iran?
China?
Korea?
Indonesia?

By: W

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:17:01 +0000

Only when these people are on their deathbed will they realise how they’ve wasted their entire life being a greedy corporate twat.

By: Omp

Omp — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:41:50 +0000

What I ment by my last post, is that its many who still stand up for Piracy in Sweden, and the Goverment wont have the power to take it down.. It’s like 49 against 51 percent between the Blue and the Red in Sweden.. If any of them take away the piracy, it will be around 35 against 65 percent :)

By: Omp

Omp — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:39:25 +0000

As many is telling us: Sweden might not be a safe haven for a much longer time.. BUT, since the people in Sweden really likes downloading, i still think its a safe Haven.. We have around 20-30 Private Trackers, and there is still some that pops up (goes down fast cause no one wants them anymore)..!

By: javaScript();

javaScript(); — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:32:19 +0000

Sweden is crap.

By: Welshie

Welshie — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:23:06 +0000

Will things ever change for the better? These things take time guys. Trying to rally support can be very frustrating… especially when it seems that no-one is listening. But, when the time is right… the silent masses will shout out at the top of their voices. Torrentfreaks duty is to keep digging up dirt to keep the debate alive… and to remind us why this is so important!

By: alecy

alecy — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:27:15 +0000

Thats great news more of your sites will fall too soon, we are watching you alecy.com

By: meh

meh — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:06:28 +0000

@14

word

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:47:55 +0000

This “facilitating copyright infringement” BS again?

Sue Google then, it facilitates copyright infringement by helping me find infringing material. Oh, also sue the ISPs, they’re facilitating my infringing by giving me access to the files. Also sue Mozilla, since their browser allows me to access the internet. And not to mention Microsoft, or the manufacturer of the computer.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:02:07 +0000

cynical lawyers continue to exploit ignorant judges. Western law isn’t capable of giving fair trials in cases like these. At the moment the money is talking far too loudly.

The European EFF really needs to get its act (and funding) together.

By: can't hope enough it comes true

can't hope enough it comes true — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:25:55 +0000

this world is really starting to grate in on me.l can’t wait for it to explode into a shower of gamma sparks !
and end this pathetic human existence
forever. this world has seriously gone to shit,and l can’t see anyway it will change for the better ever.

By: Bojangles

Bojangles — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:17:58 +0000

With all this shit going on I’m starting to think about investing in overseas hosting. Somewhere nice and poor where people are more worried about important things in life like making sure their family has food and water each day instead of taking everyone to court.

ChadTorrent maybe?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:25:24 +0000

ignorant judges

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:23:40 +0000

If they hosted onsite unauthorized files it would be facilitating copyright infringement, otherwise not; it’s just like a search engine

By: Brett Wilkin

Brett Wilkin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:13:53 +0000

I didn’t know “facilitating copyright infringement” was a crime. It may sound good, but where’s the law against it? Even if some countries have such a contrived law, it certainly would not be “obvious” that the tracker had broken it, without any examination of the site or the facts. This is like being sentenced without a [fair] trial, and the case should be dismissed on that account alone.

In any case we all must be guilty of facilitation, merely by discussing file sharing in a positive light, as it helps or encourages the practice. The mere mention of a filename or providing a link must also incriminate. Google must have massive guilt for linking to torrents and other “unauthorized” files. Ahahahahaaa

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:13:25 +0000

@6 Did you ALWAYS sound like such an idiot?

It remains to be seen if Sweden will remain a safe haven for long.

By: wrong

wrong — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:50:43 +0000

YOU need to take responsibility, not web hosting companies.

Shift the blame, sue your customers, do whatever you think you have to get us ‘pirates’ but I smile, because I will ALWAYS download, I will ALWAYS give your crap to my friends, I will ALWAYS ruin your day.

Your pathetic against the swarm.

By: Mr.Afghanistan

Mr.Afghanistan — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:33:56 +0000

Netherlands F**ked Up LoL
Over 100 countries to move. No Worries ;)

By: Aemony

Aemony — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:13:39 +0000

I don’t like it when torrent sites moves to Sweden (I live here), because it’s not good if all sites in the end are gathered at one location, and with the debate about the FRA-law right now it doesn’t feel any better… Who knows what the future holds?

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:24:42 +0000

@2, people are trying in different small ways, but its a hard uphill (more like vertical)fight as (most of) the media is owned and used to spread their propaganda + their twisted views.

There’s going to be a LOT more bad news for file sharers before things start to change for the better.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:09:35 +0000

I suppose that the real problem with the power of BREIN and all is that they have the power for propaganda, whereas file-sharers really have no way to get their message out to the public.

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:58:51 +0000

Same SOBs up to their same tricks.. someone should take a blunt object and see if they can spill Briens brains…

I really wonder how much of a “safe haven” Sweden is, considering TPB moved their hosting away from here.. :-/

cheers!
ezee.se