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		<title>By: Was wird aus der Bucht? &#171; startafire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Was wird aus der Bucht? &#171; startafire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aber was ist nun mit Torrents? The Pirate Bay speicherte keine Peer-Daten, konnte also auch keine Daten herausgeben. Wohin nun mit meinen Torrents? Erstaunlich ist das Auftauchen von OpenBittorrent, einem Tracker ohne Torrent-Suche oder Verzeichnis. Er nutzt die gleichen IPs wie TPB und wurde nach Bekanntgabe des Verkaufs gelaunched. Wer noch eine Suche benötigt, der kann z.B. Google bemühen, indem er nach filetype:torrent sucht. Natürlich kann man auch zu einem anderen Tracker wechseln, Vorschläge dazu ab in die Comments! Eine weniger gute Wahl scheint mir MiniNova. Eine bessere Wahl ist wahrscheinlich PublicBT, welcher fast genau wie OpenBittorrent aussieht. Auf jeden Fall erwähnenswert ist noch The HiddenTracker, welcher das TOR-Netzwerk nutzt. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Aber was ist nun mit Torrents? The Pirate Bay speicherte keine Peer-Daten, konnte also auch keine Daten herausgeben. Wohin nun mit meinen Torrents? Erstaunlich ist das Auftauchen von OpenBittorrent, einem Tracker ohne Torrent-Suche oder Verzeichnis. Er nutzt die gleichen IPs wie TPB und wurde nach Bekanntgabe des Verkaufs gelaunched. Wer noch eine Suche benötigt, der kann z.B. Google bemühen, indem er nach filetype:torrent sucht. Natürlich kann man auch zu einem anderen Tracker wechseln, Vorschläge dazu ab in die Comments! Eine weniger gute Wahl scheint mir MiniNova. Eine bessere Wahl ist wahrscheinlich PublicBT, welcher fast genau wie OpenBittorrent aussieht. Auf jeden Fall erwähnenswert ist noch The HiddenTracker, welcher das TOR-Netzwerk nutzt. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Die frage nach dem Piratebay-Erbe &#171; Don&#8217;t panic &#8211; Die Computerkneipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Die frage nach dem Piratebay-Erbe &#171; Don&#8217;t panic &#8211; Die Computerkneipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wegfall von The Piratebay.org das Bittorrent Netzwerk am Leben halten kann und stellt das Projekt  Hiddentracker vor, das in Zukunft das TOR zur Verschleierung von IP Adressen nutzen will. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wegfall von The Piratebay.org das Bittorrent Netzwerk am Leben halten kann und stellt das Projekt  Hiddentracker vor, das in Zukunft das TOR zur Verschleierung von IP Adressen nutzen will. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LRN</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]
Also the whole volume of tracker communication might quite well kill the whole Tor network
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Each new Tor user that uses Tor to connect to something ALSO becomes a node in the Tor network. Which means that as long as each user is capable of routing as much Tor traffic as (s)he generates h(im/er)self, Tor will stay balanced. The only node that gets HEAVY load is the tracker itself, but that&#039;s nothing new.</description>
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Also the whole volume of tracker communication might quite well kill the whole Tor network<br />
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Each new Tor user that uses Tor to connect to something ALSO becomes a node in the Tor network. Which means that as long as each user is capable of routing as much Tor traffic as (s)he generates h(im/er)self, Tor will stay balanced. The only node that gets HEAVY load is the tracker itself, but that&#8217;s nothing new.</p>
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		<title>By: Borderliner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borderliner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those worrying about Tor exit node spying - it´s irrelevant in this case. The traffic doesn´t leave the Tor network, hence exit nodes aren´t used (instead all server nodes are used).

Using Tor adds another layer of complexity to torrenting, that´s why not everyone´s using it. Also the whole volume of tracker communication might quite well kill the whole Tor network (yes, the bandwidth used for talking to trackers is nothing compared to the bandwidth used by the data that´s being shared, but considering how much tracker-communication there is [(initial announces on new torrents + periodic announcing on running .torrents + final announces for .torrents being stopped) x millions of users] running all tracker-correspondence through Tor is a bad idea. Remember, TPB used massive amounts of bandwith for it´s operation, altough I´m unsure how much of it was used by the tracker and how much by the website serving .torrents).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those worrying about Tor exit node spying &#8211; it´s irrelevant in this case. The traffic doesn´t leave the Tor network, hence exit nodes aren´t used (instead all server nodes are used).</p>
<p>Using Tor adds another layer of complexity to torrenting, that´s why not everyone´s using it. Also the whole volume of tracker communication might quite well kill the whole Tor network (yes, the bandwidth used for talking to trackers is nothing compared to the bandwidth used by the data that´s being shared, but considering how much tracker-communication there is [(initial announces on new torrents + periodic announcing on running .torrents + final announces for .torrents being stopped) x millions of users] running all tracker-correspondence through Tor is a bad idea. Remember, TPB used massive amounts of bandwith for it´s operation, altough I´m unsure how much of it was used by the tracker and how much by the website serving .torrents).</p>
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		<title>By: P2P using anonymous TOR-TorrentFreak &#171; FACT &#8211; Freedom Against Censorship Thailand</title>
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		<dc:creator>P2P using anonymous TOR-TorrentFreak &#171; FACT &#8211; Freedom Against Censorship Thailand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What the Ban of The Pirate Bay could mean for The Netherlands &#124; BasBasBas.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What the Ban of The Pirate Bay could mean for The Netherlands &#124; BasBasBas.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are constantly working on increasing the quality of filesharing and making it harder to track (see this article about HydraTorrent, which, by the way, has already copied all of TPB&#8217;s torrents). Now that The Pirate Bay is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TOR Trackers Please</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOR Trackers Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]why don’t ALL Trackers use Tor?[/quote]

I think they should all use tor, it will be much more difficult for anyone to know exactly where data is coming from.  The main drawback I see is the speed (or lack therof).  I would love to see the responses when everyone starts using TOR.  Try and stop that.</description>
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<p>I think they should all use tor, it will be much more difficult for anyone to know exactly where data is coming from.  The main drawback I see is the speed (or lack therof).  I would love to see the responses when everyone starts using TOR.  Try and stop that.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Http://strikeys-torrents.com

Well rather new about 14Weeks old dedicated staff and uploaders and just got new design.</description>
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<p>Well rather new about 14Weeks old dedicated staff and uploaders and just got new design.</p>
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		<title>By: Toneh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toneh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The background on this site looks a bit familiar.. Huh. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The background on this site looks a bit familiar.. Huh. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Geekazoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geekazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying this isn&#039;t smart, i&#039;m just thinking, if this is such a big &quot;EUREKA, no more police knocking down our doors&quot;-moment, then why don&#039;t ALL Trackers use Tor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying this isn&#8217;t smart, i&#8217;m just thinking, if this is such a big &#8220;EUREKA, no more police knocking down our doors&#8221;-moment, then why don&#8217;t ALL Trackers use Tor?</p>
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		<title>By: 41%</title>
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		<dc:creator>41%</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m3, doesn&#039;t seem like a bad idea, but you might find that still &#039;they&#039; would continue to do whatever necessary to shut the service down.  The rules are twisted and bent constantly to capture anything that threatens controlling interests, and so if the threat still exists, they&#039;ll hit it.  The game is rigged.  Best one not even grant them the capability of focusing upon any concentrated point as a target, in my opinion, if continued security of operation is what you&#039;re after.

I do like the idea, though, and would be at least interested to see how things would play out if it was tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m3, doesn&#8217;t seem like a bad idea, but you might find that still &#8216;they&#8217; would continue to do whatever necessary to shut the service down.  The rules are twisted and bent constantly to capture anything that threatens controlling interests, and so if the threat still exists, they&#8217;ll hit it.  The game is rigged.  Best one not even grant them the capability of focusing upon any concentrated point as a target, in my opinion, if continued security of operation is what you&#8217;re after.</p>
<p>I do like the idea, though, and would be at least interested to see how things would play out if it was tried.</p>
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		<title>By: makin's posterous - Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>makin's posterous - Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Its been less than a month since many feared the BitTorrent world would collapse due to a $7.8m investment in The Pirate Bay. Since then OpenBitTorrent has come along to largely take its place, backed up by PublicBT to spread the load. Now comes Hidden Tracker, a brand new public tracker which hides itself using TOR.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Its been less than a month since many feared the BitTorrent world would collapse due to a $7.8m investment in The Pirate Bay. Since then OpenBitTorrent has come along to largely take its place, backed up by PublicBT to spread the load. Now comes Hidden Tracker, a brand new public tracker which hides itself using TOR.Source:<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MakinMo's Tech Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MakinMo's Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the load. Now comes Hidden Tracker, a brand new public tracker which hides itself using TOR.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/   Jul [...]</description>
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		<title>By: makin257 - BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor</title>
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		<dc:creator>makin257 - BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BT??“???”?HiddenTracker??????BT??????????? &#171; ??IT?????IT???????????????????</title>
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		<dc:creator>BT??“???”?HiddenTracker??????BT??????????? &#171; ??IT?????IT???????????????????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Technology Blog: BitTorrent Hydra Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Technology Blog: BitTorrent Hydra Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the load. Now comes Hidden Tracker, a brand new public tracker which hides itself using TOR.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/      Posted by Makin   at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Schweighöfer (acid) 's status on Monday, 27-Jul-09 12:14:20 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Schweighöfer (acid) 's status on Monday, 27-Jul-09 12:14:20 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] @makin257 http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/ #Anonymous #Hidden #Tracker via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Marley (makin257) 's status on Monday, 27-Jul-09 11:42:06 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Marley (makin257) 's status on Monday, 27-Jul-09 11:42:06 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hot sex gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>hot sex gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ all the anti-piracy niglets complaining here</description>
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		<title>By: Elitetorrent.net ha sido declarada web legal &#124; MuyInternet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elitetorrent.net ha sido declarada web legal &#124; MuyInternet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] idea es que para esconder nuestra IP o la del servicio BitTorrent se acceda a un pseudo dominio de primer nivel (concretamente, un [...]</description>
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		<title>By: m3</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted this on an older thread but it&#039;s not likely to get read as much on an old post... interested in other&#039;s opinions in relation to torrent indexing... (sorry for being slightly OT!!)...

If a torrent was trackerless and we had to manually add the openbittorrent.com, etc. tracker addresses manually)… why would it still be illegal?

1) It would NOT contain copyrighted content.
2) It would NOT faciliate the LINK to copyrighted content.

It would just be a chunk of numbers that confirm the validity of copyrighted data… BUT would NOT be a reproduction or resemble the copyrighted content in any way, and therefore should NOT be protected by intellectual property rights.

Otherwise, we’re talking about making a sequence of numbers, that do NOT resemble any likeness to copyrighted content and do not allow individuals to connect to that copyrighted content… illegal.

Could we get away with hosting a torrent site as long as we don&#039;t facilitate that link by not providing the tracker address? (and the end-user uses their own initiative to actually connect to the trackers, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted this on an older thread but it&#8217;s not likely to get read as much on an old post&#8230; interested in other&#8217;s opinions in relation to torrent indexing&#8230; (sorry for being slightly OT!!)&#8230;</p>
<p>If a torrent was trackerless and we had to manually add the openbittorrent.com, etc. tracker addresses manually)… why would it still be illegal?</p>
<p>1) It would NOT contain copyrighted content.<br />
2) It would NOT faciliate the LINK to copyrighted content.</p>
<p>It would just be a chunk of numbers that confirm the validity of copyrighted data… BUT would NOT be a reproduction or resemble the copyrighted content in any way, and therefore should NOT be protected by intellectual property rights.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we’re talking about making a sequence of numbers, that do NOT resemble any likeness to copyrighted content and do not allow individuals to connect to that copyrighted content… illegal.</p>
<p>Could we get away with hosting a torrent site as long as we don&#8217;t facilitate that link by not providing the tracker address? (and the end-user uses their own initiative to actually connect to the trackers, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tracker Evolution &#124; CyainHell.de</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracker Evolution &#124; CyainHell.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nachdem The Pirat Bay die Segel streichen musste.Stehen jetzt 3 neue Tracker in den Startl&#246;chern.Soweit nix besonders,w&#228;re da nicht die tatsache. Da dise Tracker &#252;ber das TOR Netzwerk laufen.Und somit wird die Aktivit&#228;t auf den Trackern ziemlich gut verschleiert. Quelle: torrentfreak.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nachdem The Pirat Bay die Segel streichen musste.Stehen jetzt 3 neue Tracker in den Startl&ouml;chern.Soweit nix besonders,w&auml;re da nicht die tatsache. Da dise Tracker &uuml;ber das TOR Netzwerk laufen.Und somit wird die Aktivit&auml;t auf den Trackern ziemlich gut verschleiert. Quelle: torrentfreak.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nrgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>nrgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@77

this is bcoz these site are using same program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@77</p>
<p>this is bcoz these site are using same program.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-26 at DeStructUred Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-26 at DeStructUred Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor &#124; TorrentFreak (tags: bittorrent filesharing p2p tor torrent torrents Tracker security) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bhahahaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhahahaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://publicbt.com/
http://z6gw6skubmo2pj43.tor2web.com/
http://openbittorrent.com/

why are all these websites the same?
that is, they have the same layout and have the same information (except for the tracker info)?

All of them are an &quot;-an open tracker project&quot;, what is this really?

It just seems very suspicious.
Could these sites all be made by the same person, trying to profit somehow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://publicbt.com/" rel="nofollow">http://publicbt.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://z6gw6skubmo2pj43.tor2web.com/" rel="nofollow">http://z6gw6skubmo2pj43.tor2web.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://openbittorrent.com/" rel="nofollow">http://openbittorrent.com/</a></p>
<p>why are all these websites the same?<br />
that is, they have the same layout and have the same information (except for the tracker info)?</p>
<p>All of them are an &#8220;-an open tracker project&#8221;, what is this really?</p>
<p>It just seems very suspicious.<br />
Could these sites all be made by the same person, trying to profit somehow?</p>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent Hydra: Tracker anónimo oculto a través de la red Tor (meneame) &#124; BlogUniverso</title>
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		<dc:creator>BitTorrent Hydra: Tracker anónimo oculto a través de la red Tor (meneame) &#124; BlogUniverso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original source : http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vítor Márcio Paiva de Sousa Baptista (vitorbaptista) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:59:57 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vítor Márcio Paiva de Sousa Baptista (vitorbaptista) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:59:57 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vítor Márcio Paiva de Sousa Baptista (vitorbaptista) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:59:10 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582616</link>
		<dc:creator>Vítor Márcio Paiva de Sousa Baptista (vitorbaptista) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:59:10 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel Aguayo Catalán (daguayo) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:50:16 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Aguayo Catalán (daguayo) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:50:16 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patricia Rodríguez (paprik) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:27:35 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Rodríguez (paprik) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:27:35 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/</a>  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scullder's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:22:03 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582604</link>
		<dc:creator>scullder's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 23:22:03 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/</a>  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GrymRpr</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582595</link>
		<dc:creator>GrymRpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Title is quite wrong.
It Should Read:
BitTorrent Tracker Throws In With Neo-Nazi&#039;s &amp; Pedo&#039;s.
TOR   LoL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Title is quite wrong.<br />
It Should Read:<br />
BitTorrent Tracker Throws In With Neo-Nazi&#8217;s &amp; Pedo&#8217;s.<br />
TOR   LoL</p>
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		<title>By: WimMx Lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>WimMx Lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using Tor: Assume Exit Nodes are Monitored

https://security-shell.ws/showthread.php?t=35127

Tor run by united states government?

The top tor exit nodes are provided by the US government. I googled for the info about the top 3 being run by the gov. but it appears they have either been removed from the web or a more comprehensive google search will have to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using Tor: Assume Exit Nodes are Monitored</p>
<p><a href="https://security-shell.ws/showthread.php?t=35127" rel="nofollow">https://security-shell.ws/showthread.php?t=35127</a></p>
<p>Tor run by united states government?</p>
<p>The top tor exit nodes are provided by the US government. I googled for the info about the top 3 being run by the gov. but it appears they have either been removed from the web or a more comprehensive google search will have to do.</p>
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		<title>By: The Th!ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Th!ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully his will wipe the smug grin from the faces of the MPAA and RIAA shitheads.</description>
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		<title>By: kossusukka</title>
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		<dc:creator>kossusukka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty old idea, but good. Only problem is TOR&#039;s very limited bandwich. Browsing tor sites is already very slow, so if we dont get more hi-speed tor nodes, the whlole tor network is going to be unusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty old idea, but good. Only problem is TOR&#8217;s very limited bandwich. Browsing tor sites is already very slow, so if we dont get more hi-speed tor nodes, the whlole tor network is going to be unusable.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@71

Exactly; nicely put.</description>
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<p>Exactly; nicely put.</p>
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		<title>By: marciana trece (xtarwars) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 22:04:08 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>marciana trece (xtarwars) 's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-09 22:04:08 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] !gnu BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: All Teched Up &#171; Caintech.co.uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Teched Up &#171; Caintech.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 15 life lessons learned from SimCity  Top 5 Funniest Fake Facebook Pages  Online Bingo-Lovers  BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor TorrentFreak  Evolution of a Revolution: Visualizing Millions of Iran Tweets  Why Comments Matter  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sendaii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sendaii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@70: That tactic isn&#039;t working either. The more people they sue, the more that pirate. What they need is a change of business model, which is genuinely all that most of us want. If I could get my music at fast speeds, DRM-free and good quality for a reasonable monthly fee, I would buy music. Pirates aren&#039;t all the lazy freeloaders who would steal their own grannies that the entertainment industry makes them look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@70: That tactic isn&#8217;t working either. The more people they sue, the more that pirate. What they need is a change of business model, which is genuinely all that most of us want. If I could get my music at fast speeds, DRM-free and good quality for a reasonable monthly fee, I would buy music. Pirates aren&#8217;t all the lazy freeloaders who would steal their own grannies that the entertainment industry makes them look like.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Hidden Tracker on BitTorent &#124; Freshy News &#124; Technology &#124; Software &#124; Videos &#124; Wordpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor &#124; TorrentFreak &#171; Netcrema - creme de la social news via digg + delicious + stumpleupon + reddit</title>
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		<dc:creator>BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor &#124; TorrentFreak &#171; Netcrema - creme de la social news via digg + delicious + stumpleupon + reddit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor &#124; TorrentFreaktorrentfreak.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BioShockerT81</title>
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		<dc:creator>BioShockerT81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@65 Sendaii:

What you&#039;re not understanding is that the goal isn&#039;t really to get compensation from those ordinary people, but to scare others into stopping pirating. What else are they supposed to do? They tried adds and awareness campaigns, and it didn&#039;t help. Not the only thing left for them is to sue those people against whom they manage to build a case so that others will stop thinking &quot;I&#039;m just a small drop in the flood, so nothing will happen to me&quot;. Try to see this from the other side&#039;s standpoint and you will understand they aren&#039;t really the devils pirates make them look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@65 Sendaii:</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re not understanding is that the goal isn&#8217;t really to get compensation from those ordinary people, but to scare others into stopping pirating. What else are they supposed to do? They tried adds and awareness campaigns, and it didn&#8217;t help. Not the only thing left for them is to sue those people against whom they manage to build a case so that others will stop thinking &#8220;I&#8217;m just a small drop in the flood, so nothing will happen to me&#8221;. Try to see this from the other side&#8217;s standpoint and you will understand they aren&#8217;t really the devils pirates make them look like.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous p2p has been going-on for years in Japan.  They use the programs Winnie, Share, and Perfect Dark (neat name!).  File-sharing there is a criminal offence and the police have used extreme measures.  For example, they have &quot;firewalled&quot; a suspect&#039;s house so that it could only reach police-controlled computers.  They then downloaded a copyrighted file and thus inferred that it was on the suspect&#039;s computer.  The same attack would work on Tor, but would be illegal in most countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous p2p has been going-on for years in Japan.  They use the programs Winnie, Share, and Perfect Dark (neat name!).  File-sharing there is a criminal offence and the police have used extreme measures.  For example, they have &#8220;firewalled&#8221; a suspect&#8217;s house so that it could only reach police-controlled computers.  They then downloaded a copyrighted file and thus inferred that it was on the suspect&#8217;s computer.  The same attack would work on Tor, but would be illegal in most countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Vibys</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582521</link>
		<dc:creator>Vibys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@52 @58 Its only a tracker, not an index of torrent. To get more peers you need to put the torrent onto a site where others can grab it. e.g mininova</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@52 @58 Its only a tracker, not an index of torrent. To get more peers you need to put the torrent onto a site where others can grab it. e.g mininova</p>
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		<title>By: deldig.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>deldig.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BitTorrent Hydra: Anonymous Hidden Tracker Via Tor &#124; TorrentFreak...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#8217;s been less than a month since many feared the BitTorrent world would collapse due to a $7.8m investment in The Pirate Bay. Since then OpenBitTorrent has come along to largely take its place, backed up by PublicBT to spread the load. Now comes...</description>
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<p>It&rsquo;s been less than a month since many feared the BitTorrent world would collapse due to a $7.8m investment in The Pirate Bay. Since then OpenBitTorrent has come along to largely take its place, backed up by PublicBT to spread the load. Now comes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: No-https-NO-IPv6-No-Multicast</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582495</link>
		<dc:creator>No-https-NO-IPv6-No-Multicast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; 66 Jul 26, 2009 at 17:56 by anonymous 
Maybe they should just stop logging IP addresses beyond the moment needed to get the torrent?
&quot;

thats my point, you dont really need to ever Know even your own real IP addess never mind others in the swarm IF YOU are ALL CONNECTED TO A generic MULTICAST address over a temp tunnel with sudo random hashs you all make up and use for that session.

you can use tor code as the bass or make your own, it doesnt matter, as long as all parts of the initial chain never give out a single real IP after you have been pased to the main thread or however you make these Multicast tunnels and DHT hashs on the fly

 but the devs dont want to innovate that before someone else does it first...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; 66 Jul 26, 2009 at 17:56 by anonymous<br />
Maybe they should just stop logging IP addresses beyond the moment needed to get the torrent?<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>thats my point, you dont really need to ever Know even your own real IP addess never mind others in the swarm IF YOU are ALL CONNECTED TO A generic MULTICAST address over a temp tunnel with sudo random hashs you all make up and use for that session.</p>
<p>you can use tor code as the bass or make your own, it doesnt matter, as long as all parts of the initial chain never give out a single real IP after you have been pased to the main thread or however you make these Multicast tunnels and DHT hashs on the fly</p>
<p> but the devs dont want to innovate that before someone else does it first&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they should just stop logging IP addresses beyond the moment needed to get the torrent?</description>
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		<title>By: Sendaii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sendaii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@53: I understand what you are saying, Reasoned Mind, this is war and neither side is going to stand still while the other attacks. 

Copyright holders DO have the right to defend their copyrights, and I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with, however, is when the law itself is abused by the likes of the RIAA to milk huge profits from induvidual people. Remember Jammie Thomas? Fined $1.92 million for sharing 24 songs. Look me in the eyes and tell me that is justice.

Creative Commons, however, does not have this problem and artists can still be paid for their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@53: I understand what you are saying, Reasoned Mind, this is war and neither side is going to stand still while the other attacks. </p>
<p>Copyright holders DO have the right to defend their copyrights, and I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with, however, is when the law itself is abused by the likes of the RIAA to milk huge profits from induvidual people. Remember Jammie Thomas? Fined $1.92 million for sharing 24 songs. Look me in the eyes and tell me that is justice.</p>
<p>Creative Commons, however, does not have this problem and artists can still be paid for their work.</p>
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		<title>By: No-https-NO-IPv6-No-Multicast</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-hydra-anonymous-hidden-tracker-via-tor-090725/#comment-582477</link>
		<dc:creator>No-https-NO-IPv6-No-Multicast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; 37 Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23 by Anonymous 
So we should all go out of our way to configure tor for torrents just to save the tracker admins asses? 

Everyone on the swarm would still be just as vulnerable as ever.&quot;

exactly, that why several people have already said if your going to make these annon dark nets, THEN USE a tunnel and put Multicast at the heart of it...

you can then just put out a DHT Multicast hash with your annon bits attach to this Multicast tunnel do  a simple request/advertise/send etc with this annon hash and get the binary files you need without anyone ever knowing your real IP address as your all just a random hash No on a multicast multi-point to multi-point torrent tunnel.... simple and far quicker than todays Unicast torrent offering.

but the devs wont even try this simple thing for 10 shared hash multicast tunnel peers at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; 37 Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23 by Anonymous<br />
So we should all go out of our way to configure tor for torrents just to save the tracker admins asses? </p>
<p>Everyone on the swarm would still be just as vulnerable as ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>exactly, that why several people have already said if your going to make these annon dark nets, THEN USE a tunnel and put Multicast at the heart of it&#8230;</p>
<p>you can then just put out a DHT Multicast hash with your annon bits attach to this Multicast tunnel do  a simple request/advertise/send etc with this annon hash and get the binary files you need without anyone ever knowing your real IP address as your all just a random hash No on a multicast multi-point to multi-point torrent tunnel&#8230;. simple and far quicker than todays Unicast torrent offering.</p>
<p>but the devs wont even try this simple thing for 10 shared hash multicast tunnel peers at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: pepi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tor is not for transfer big files.

this will overload the network and will make it slow.</description>
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<p>this will overload the network and will make it slow.</p>
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