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Mass BitTorrent Lawsuits Return to the UK

Speculative invoicing might be returning to the UK, thanks to a High Court judgment Monday. The practice, all but abandoned in the UK in the wake of the ACS:Law fiasco, has restarted but with conditions. Meanwhile, over 9,000 people could get letters from the plaintiff, Ben Dover.

Ben DoverSpeculative invoicing – the practice of claiming people pirated files on BitTorrent, listing hundreds or thousands of people in one case to get details, then harassing them outside the courts for payment – was thought to be dead in the UK, after ACS:law collapsed last year.

The solicitor at the center of that lawfirm, Andrew Crossley, was both fined and suspended from practicing law, which seemed to put a hold on similar cases.

However, it didn’t dissuade everyone. Yesterday, the UK’s High Court approved a case involving UK pornographer Ben Dover (real name Lyndsay Honey) and his company Golden Eye International. Now, ISP O2 will have to release the details of up to 9000+ subscribers listed in the document for Dover and Golden Eye. The precise number is unclear, as other companies that attempted to send letters through Golden Eye were denied the opportunity.

It’s success at last for the pornographer, as he’s had several similar cases thrown out in the past including a partnership with 170-year-old law firm Tilly Baily Irvine which ended in sanctions last year.

This claim process started 6 months ago, and with O2 stating they would not contest the case. Chief Master Weingarten, in response,  suggested that Consumer Focus (a government funded body looking after consumer rights) represent the IP addresses – the intended defendants – in court instead, a role Consumer Focus accepted.

Despite a strong defense, including pointing out all the issues with these kinds of actions, Weingarten approved the order, but with conditions. In perhaps a first for this sort of litigation, the court will be supervising the content of letters sent out to the alleged infringers, partly because of the ACS:law debacle.

In particular, the one-sided nature of the letters – only indicating the consequences should the alleged infringer lose – was not deemed appropriate, being indicative of bullying. Instead consequences should they successfully defend themselves should also be included.

Yet the most important part of the ruling is near the end, and might stop this practice once and for all; blanket fees to “make it all go away” are not acceptable.

137.   Fifthly, I think that Mr Becker’s response in his second witness statement to the point made by counsel for Consumer Focus referred to in sub-paragraph 60(v) above is telling:

“… it assumes that £700 will be successfully obtained from each of the 9000, when that is plainly wrong. In fact, it is likely that only a small proportion will result in a successfully obtained payment of any sum.”

This comes quite close to an admission that the figure of £700 has been selected so as to maximise the revenue obtained from the letters of claim, rather than as a realistic estimate of the damages recoverable by the relevant Claimant from each Intended Defendant. In any event, that is the inference I draw in the light of the matters discussed above and in the absence of any disclosure of the information referred to in paragraph 88 above.

138.   Accordingly, I do not consider that the Claimants are justified in sending letters of claim to every Intended Defendant demanding the payment of £700. What the Claimants ought to do is to proceed in the conventional manner, that is to say, to require the Intended Defendants who do not dispute liability to disclose such information as they are able to provide as to the extent to which they have engaged in P2P filesharing of the relevant Claimants’ copyright works. In my view it would be acceptable for the Claimants to indicate that they are prepared to accept a lump sum in settlement of their claims, including the request for disclosure, but not to specify a figure in the initial letter. The settlement sum should be individually negotiated with each Intended Defendant.

No more fee demands. Instead they can only state that they will accept a lump sum payment as settlement, to be negotiated if the accused accept liability. Otherwise, it will be down to the courts. It also seems that after many cases, Chief Master Weingarten has understood that these cases are about profits, not protecting rights. Very little money and a lot of grief was the prediction we highlighted earlier this month, and that seems to be the case.

Meanwhile, up to 9124 households are going to get a letter through their door talking about the porn they’ve allegedly downloaded. Let’s just hope that the tracking software, claimed to be ‘forensically accurate’ (huh?) does better than in times past, or there’s going to be a lot of needlessly embarrassed families, and unnecessary family strife when the postman calls.

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  • anon

    Lock on targets, let the fun begin.

    Mr Honey you will regret this…

    • Anonymous

      Caught downloading Ben Dover films.
      Would that be a Honey trap then?

      OK, I’m going.

      • MrBadGuy

        I don’t thing that this new extortion scheme will work.

        If it does we will have to add few more holes into the Stephen James Honey asshole.

        That will stop this crap for good.

  • Chief

    That is really awesome.

  • Anyone

    I wonder if they will even send the letters if they cannot extort any money

  • http://twitter.com/katrus Katrus

    He should go by his real name. “Steve Honey” would be a great name for a porn director.

  • Uk_scout

    Cannons primed, awaiting orders.

  • Chicketychina

    All i can say is look for “strawman” an ull find an act is not a law.also strawman will show u if u get a letter with a title (mr,miss,mrs) its not for u its for ur strawman so if i had a letter from them (from this ben-dover luckily never downloaded his stuff other stuff yes but not his!)it would say “Mr chicketychina” id throw it away as the MR IS YOUR STRAWMAN NOT YOU !! You must never have a VERBAL contract with them never say yes or u understand them (legalise) unless it is A LAW.

    • Mwhahaha

      Can anyone translate this please?

      • Trollhater

        Chicketychina is referring to common law.
        Look up (google) “common law” and “strawman”

      • Trollhater

        Chicketychina is referring to common law.
        Look up (google) “common law” and “strawman”

      • ASM

        What he is saying is, we are all bound by common law which is harm, loss or fraud. If you walk over to someone and punch them in the face, you can be arrested under common law, the same if you loss or fraud. Now, if your in the UK the gov pass legislation, more specifically, statues and acts. Hold that thought please as I need to make something else clear.

        Do you know the legal definition for person is? “Corporation” is the answer.
        Do you know the legal definition for register is? “Transfer of title ownership”

        So what do you do when you register your child? The point is mainly your birth certificate. Or more specifically what ON your birth certificate. If your British have a look. It says not to be used as identification. It also says “Crown Copyright”. This is how the go turn us into collateral for our countries debt. Your “STRAW MAN” is your legal fiction. The PERSON on your birth cert does not exist. You are a human being and if we abide by our own common law we have a RIGHT TO CONSENT. Your parents registered you, not having your consent.

        You do not have to represent your legal fiction, your person as you have a right to consent.

        Now coming back to statues and acts. Like the data protection act, the drug mis-use act etc etc.

        If you actually read statues and acts, they only refer to the person, or your person. Remember what person means? The wording is referring to your legal fiction, the name on your birth cert. If you do not consent to giving your name, they cannot enforce statues and acts against you, as it requires consent(from you, the human being).

        Your legal fiction is your straw man. What he is saying is, don’t admit you are representing your person if you get a letter.

        I hope this answers your question.

  • stuff

    “over 9,000 people”
    “Ben Dover”

    Oh you.

    • I know u know u troll

      like megaupload hosting costs over $9000 per day.

      I think we are being trolled : )

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    my bad lol, just woke up..

  • I see Justice

    Ben Dover
    B e n D o v e r
    Bend Over
    lol

    • Uk_scout

      Ya dont say..

      • Momo

        Don Tsay, you mean.

    • captain ovbious

      never would have seen that without you.

      I am mentally challenged

    • Anonymous

      I don’t get it.

      • Anyone

        bend over and you will get it

    • The guy

      I see what you did there.

  • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

    Point of information: the new case was before the Hon. Mr Justice Arnold, not Chief Master Weingarten.

    • Anonymous

      I just wonder what happened to this Judge wanting more proof of who did infringement than just the IP address?

      At least he has squeezed them hard up to the point of rewriting their speculative invoicing letters. That sounds helpful and I most hope he includes note of the Being Threatened website.

      We can also hope that the population is now wiser to simply deny all and to tell them to sod off.

  • Mr A Nonymous

    So how much UK tax payers money is this goin to waste now ? surely this must breach some human rights.. Isnt this just black mail with the help of the courts?..

    ACS:Law came after me and other’s and they failed and this will fail, know why??

    we are samurai, the keyboard cowboy’s, we made the internet, we control the internet we are the internet…

    Ben Dover.. time to Bend Over cause your going to get fucked.. muhahahahha o the lulz :P

    • Mwhahaha

      A samurai and a cowboy and the internet inventor *and* internet controller?

      That’s a great CV

  • radioman

    …do i really have to use my Death Note to fix this nonsense based world, i might lose my patience one day…

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Perhaps it’s simply time for the U.K. legislators to get off their lazy asses and make this legal insanity illegal like it should be?

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      I agree CK, but our legislators are a bunch of Tories hellbent on creating a US-style corporate #corruptocracy and it’s HIGHLY unlikely that Labour would assist us either because they’re now as right-wing and pro-business as the Tories were back in the 1970s.

      It’s really so very sad that ‘ordinary working people’ in the UK electorate no longer have a major political party that represents them.

  • http://twitter.com/arron62 arron

    first off O2 is just a mobile company, not true isp
    second they just gave the info away

    if this was BT or talktalk they would fight it all the way to the top

    O2 customers should now sue them for giving private info away
    there are UK and EU laws which would help them

    • Abaranger

      02 are in fact also an isp, and also owner of the BE isp, given that BE at least are very lenient towards use of their service its worrying that 02 have just lay on their backs and prepared for anal invasion…

    • http://twitter.com/bacon_frazzle Bacon Frazzle

      Errr…… I think you will find O2 are one of the UK’s biggest ISP’s (in the top 5 or 6, not even taking into account mobile users)

  • Danny

    Every one of the 9000 should definately contest it in court. It would be a right laugh for them to try and individually sue that many people in the small claims court.

  • Dick Gay

    Hello. My first name is Dick, last name is Gay.
    I’m an ex-classmate of Ben Dover

    • Gay

      Gay…

  • vibol
  • Anonymous

    i think a big mistake that Chief Master Weingarten has made is to not order the software/methods used to identify the supposed downloaders/file sharers to be ‘forensically tested’ for accuracy. if that isn’t proven by any and all means available to be 100% accurate, how can any claims go forward? and given that it has already been established that an IP address identifies an ISP account holder, not a ‘user at the alleged time of infringement’, how can any method be that accurate? ie, no webcam footage or picture showing faces, no positive proof!

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  • Anonymous

    Weingarten or Arnold?

    BBC reckons it was Mr Justice Arnold

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17525349

  • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

    OH MY GOD! IT’S OVER 9000!!!!

    • MadAsASnake

      … so they got 9000 IP addresses out of a Random Number Generator. Won’t be 9000 letters.

  • MadAsASnake

    So, O2 said they wouldn’t contest, everyone else said they would. 9000 they say? On mobile? Wonder what percentage of those they will actually be able to match to an account…wonder how much O2 is charging them for customer info… wonder how much business O2 will loose from it …

    Anyway, they can’t demand a sum, they must ask for disclosure. From regular people. I think the usual response wil be F*** ***

    • Anonymous

      It ain’t mobile broadband……its landline

  • John

    Some of those practices definitely fit the bill of bullying recognizing it could be a sign of progress. One step at a time, maybe someday bully scamming schemes will be over for good.

    • Anonymous

      “bully scamming schemes”
      More commonly known as extortion.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        It IS extortion and it IS a criminal offence, but because it’s a business versus a customer the Courts tend to overlook that as a triviality and will make a decision as favourable as possible to the business.

        That’s how a fascist corporate corruptocracy works. Our legislated-for Consumer Rights, and even people’s Human Rights and Civil Liberties are slowly being drained away from us just because these laws and Rights get in the way of a business trying to make money.

        And it’s got to stop!!!

        Our parents and grandparents etc fought hard for us in two World Wars to obtain and retain our integrity, our humanity and our laws, But now we have governments riding rough-shod over these rights and our Courts are increasingly reluctant to protect us from abuse when our rights are breached.

        And this post applies as much to the USA as it does in the UK (and elsewhere too).

        • Anonymous

          ore so in America, there a corporation is considered a person, how long will it be before that ‘person’ has more rights that actual people and we all become second class citizens to the “fascist corporate corruptocracy”? That’s if we aren’t there already.

  • Jmorse43508

    Meme jokes aside, it looks like BeingThreatened, a UK website started to help those falsely accused by ACS:Law, could be getting a lot more visitors as a result of this.

    And all the usual parties that were investigating ACS:Law’s practices will now turn their attention on Weingarten.

  • Neb12

    Just an idea. Why don’t we sue everyone that dl’s utorrent or any other bt client for having the potential to dl copyright material. This would save a lot of time and effort.

    I still think media should pay us for reviewing thier lousy films………

  • tonyj

    Ben Dover is a freggin idiot. His company benefits from pirated downloads and sharing of his films. Who in the hell would know anything about Ben Dover if it wasn’t for file sharing. The word of mouth P2P creating awareness of his products from pirates far exceeds any money he could have thrown away at Marketing.

    But the man is an idiot plain and simple. His willingness to destroy his “accidental” P2P awareness campaign is just beyond bizarre.

    • MadAsASnake

      I think you will find that the Internet really has destroyed his other business interests… I mean when there is so much on the webs that you fall over it, why pay for a second rate tape? You could argue that he is adapting to the internet!

  • Mwhahaha

    I’m guessing just a quick letter denying it all would be enough to deter this kind of behaviour. They’re not going to sue all 9K. Be sincere, polite and baffled. Ask them if it’s gay porn, cos it’s a pretty gayporn sounding name, referring to a guy bending over etc. Tell them you don’t watch gay porn maybe.

    I’m wondering how much this waste of time has cost them so far.

    The total profit/loss over this would be interesting to see in a year or two’s time.

    People really d/l Ben Dover’s dodgy excuse for erotic viewing?
    Wow.
    Can someone tell them good pornography with attractive people exists too.

    • MadAsASnake

      I thought Crossley had already proved that the economics of this don’t work. He has to pay for the NPO, and a fee to O2 fo each IP they match. Unlikely to break even with the restrictions the court has placed on him and if he breaches the court conditions, there are enough people in the know to draw it to the courts attention. If he doesn’t take cases to court, again, there are people that will bring it to the courts attention. If he goes to court, what can he prove? Not a lot.

  • Really?…

    “Meanwhile, over 9,000 people could get letters from the plaintiff, Ben Dover.”

    Um… it’s not April Fools just yet :p

  • Guest

    CM Winegarten referred the case to be decided by a judge. Although there were 9124 IP addresses involved, they related to a total of twelve “rights owners” one of whom is “Ben Dover Productions” which is a partnership of Simon Honey and Linzi Drew
    Honey. The action was orchestrated by Golden Eye International Ltd (GEIL), a company jointly owned by Simon Honey, on the basis that GEIL had arrangements with the twelve to act on their behalf.

    The judge ordered disclosure in the case of claims where the rights owner is Ben Dover Productions, but refused disclosure as regards the others. If the figures in the judgment are all correct, then it is possible to calculate that there can be no more than 3080 Ben Dover claims, although that is unlikely. Estimates are that it is likely to be around 1000-1500, and possibly less.

    The proposed approach was not approved by the court and will have to be reformulated. The proposed Order contained unacceptable recitals and the proposed Letter of Claim was objectionable in numerous ways.

    Essentially, the judge held that there will be an unknown percentage of errors in the identification to start with, and even where the correct connection is identified, the subscriber might or might not be liable to pay any damages at all.

    Even if the alleged infringement was correctly mapped to a particular connection and subscriber, there were a range of possibilities and in some of them the subscriber might be liable but in others not. The argument that the subscriber is liable no matter how it might have happened, and that the evidence is infallible and conclusive proof did not arise..

    The judge appeared to implicitly suggest that the whole exercise, conducted properly, might not be financially viable at all, but that this was a decision for the claimant to make. The fact that it might be difficult or expensive, or unviable at all, to make any progress even if a subscriber was liable did not justify seeking an across-the-board settlement of £700 from everyone written to.

    The matter would have to be approached in stages, first ascertaining if the subscriber was liable at all, and if so, then to assess damages to be individually negotiated on the facts of the specific case. The Order and Letters of Claim would have to approach the matter on the footing that the subscriber might have infringed or might not, and that the claimant did not know which.

  • Trollhater

    Sounds like Steve Honey has post mentapausal vaginitus. He is an old rotten pussy.

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  • Me

    If I get one of these letters for any reason I shall take it into the toilet, Ben Dover and wipe my arse with it.

  • Kopimist

    He makes shit porno anyway. Who the fuck downloads that shit?

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