BitTorrent May Kill Zombieland Sequel, Writer Claims
Written by Ernesto on November 11, 2009Zombieland co-writer Rhett Reese was shocked when he discovered more than a million people had downloaded his movie illegally on BitTorrent. The Hollywood writer has now penned yet another horror scenario, claiming that this achievement could very well prevent a sequel to the successful movie from being made.
Yesterday we wrote about the makers of the film Ink, who thanked piracy for promoting their film. “We’ve embraced the piracy and are just happy Ink is getting unprecedented exposure,” they said.
Ink was downloaded more than 400,000 times last week and ended up in fourth place in our weekly chart of most downloaded movies on BitTorrent, where Zombieland occupied the top spot.
Zombieland co-writer Rhett Reese has been following our most pirated movies chart as well, and thus the online success of his film. “Zombieland currently the most pirated movie on bit torrent. Over one million downloads and counting,” he tweeted a few hours ago.
However, unlike the makers of Ink, Reese is not pleased with this achievement, claiming that this piracy disaster may very well prevent a Zombieland sequel from being shot. “Beyond depressing. This greatly affects the likelihood of a Zombieland 2,” he wrote.
Reese’s comments are the classic Hollywood response we wrote about yesterday. Piracy is causing billions of dollars in lost revenue and prevents new movies from being funded, is the doomsday scenario they often paint. But is there any truth in this hunch, or is it just another Hollywood performance? Facts seem to support the latter.
More piracy is not necessarily linked with a drop in box office grosses or DVD sales. ‘The Dark Knight’, which was the most downloaded movie on BitTorrent in 2008 sold millions of DVDs, and grossed a record breaking billion dollars in cinemas worldwide. But what about Zombieland?
The Hollywood Insider wrote that the movie is “alive and kicking” at the box office, putting its success down in part to “strong word-of-mouth”. The release also marks the most successful debut of Woody Harrelson’s career, hitting the No.1 spot and taking $9.4m on its first day and a worldwide $84m to date – all this on a production budget of less than $24m.
Zombieland grossed more than $60.8 million in 17 days, even surpassing the remake of the Dawn of the Dead to become the top-grossing zombie film in history. That does not really sound like something that will prevent a sequel to us.
On the contrary, if anything success on BitTorrent has a direct relation with success at the box office. Since unauthorized ripped versions of virtually all movies appear on the Internet nowadays, it would be a really bad sign if no pirate would want to download it.
But of course, Reese and others could still argue that they would have made even more money if there was no piracy. There are no hard facts to refute this, but with the box office revenue steadily increasing since P2P file-sharing became mainstream, it has to be doubted as well. The same can be said for the claim that less films receive funding.
As many independent filmmakers have already experienced, BitTorrent and the Internet in general can be a boon to the film industry. Instead of seeing it as a threat Hollywood might want to embrace it before it’s too late.
Reese’s “beyond depressing” tweets
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1st
Don’t bother making a sequel. The first was crap anyways. Worst zombie movie ever.
fine don’t make a sequel. i wouldn’t pay for it anyways considering the attitude you’ve just shown to your fans. really stupid move.
Sequels usually suck anyways
ZOMBIELAND
Domestic Total as of Nov. 9, 2009: $73,616,066
Distributor: Sony / Columbia Release Date: October 2, 2009
Production Budget: $23.6 million
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $73,616,066 88.0%
+ Foreign: $10,030,214 12.0%
= Worldwide: $83,646,280
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=zombieland.htm
WHAT A GIANT DOUCHE!!!!!!
I would never have gone to see this at the cinema anyway, however now i’ve seen I would certainly recomend it to everyone. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it Mr Reese. Beyond depressing indeed, free advertising more like.
it’s not even out on DVD yet! Quit yer whining Reese!
Worst. Film. Ever.
I won’t miss the sequel. The movie was fun, until Bill Murray came on the screen for a pointless and unfunny cameo. A clear sign that the writers run had out of ideas.
It can only get worse from here.
Even if a movie is very good like “From dusk till dawn”, the sequels usually suck. Rare exceptions like “Aliens” or “T2″ exist. But this can not be the case here: The original movie “Zombieland” is not that original and groundbreaking like the others I mentioned.
I downloaded it, I liked it, and I’m going to buy the Bluray once it comes out.
I’d would much rather download a film to see if I like it, and watch it in the comfort of my living room, than waste the stupid amount of money it costs to go to the cinema, and have to put up with the idiots that ruin films there.
I dont want a Zombieland 2 anyway.
Get an original idea you blood sucking hollywood vampire leach
Fuck you then stupid cunts.
They honestly think they can pull some shit like this to hurt our feelings.
9th xD
I would cry but I have no eyes. Can you spare some brain?
Ahhhhh is he down to his last half ton of cocaine? or cant he afford his hooker bill?
CRY MOAR BITCH
If mr reese reads these coments this is for him. Because of that attitude I will no longer recomend seeing this or any of his movies. Get your head out of your ass.
Beyond depressing. This greatly affects the likelihood of me going to see the sequel if it’s going to be made.
He wrote that on twitter? I replied. So should you. Tell that whiny bitch were he can shove his fucking attitude. I’m glad I made people see this outside of cinemas now. Definitely never going to buy a DVD. What a cunt.
would have thought that, like all movies, if it is any good itself and a sequel is warranted, then there will be one. if this movie is no good, then regardless of how many copies are or are not shared, there wont be a sequel. it will depend on whether people think it is worth spending money on, not on whether it was downloaded or not. sounds to me like Rhett Reese thinks his own movie is so bad that the easiest way of covering up what he has produced is to pass the blame on to downloading. stop wingeing and embrace! how many times has it got to be shown that:
a)downloads do not equal lost sales
b)if something is worth buying, it will be bought, regardless of the number of downloads
He’s just saying that so people will think twice before downloading. Just because 1 million people downloaded the movie doesn’t mean that it would stop a sequel being made. The general public doesn’t know where to find films or download them and Zombieland will STILL make millions on home video from the common joe’s who have no idea what bittorrent is. That movie made WAY more than it should have to begin with, I don’t believe the “little guys” are hurting or that movie’s aren’t being made because of piracy. Box Office numbers are up and so are home video purchases.
wow.
now i wish i hadn’t chosen Zombieland as the first movie I’ve paid to see in a first run theater in over a year.
I liked the movie, but, there is no need for a sequel. I think it would just cheapen the original, and this article made the writer sound like a huge douche bag so I probably won’t ever watch anything he ever does again. You just kicked yourself in the nuts. Thank you good night.
Boohoohoo.
Methinks someone’s got a case of the sandy-va-jay-jay.
memo to Rhett Reese:
nobody cares if you make Zombieland 2 or not.
What? Huh?! NO “ZOMBIELAND” SEQUEL?
Oh, no! Not THAT!
Here’s a song for all those who say that bittorrent ruins the profits of hollywood..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZTo5iftTw
It’ll make you chuckle… :)
I broke with tradition for this movie. I normally wouldnt spend money on ANYTHING unless i knew for a fact that it was worth it. I love zombie movies, and so for the first time in years…3 years actually, i went to the cinema to PAY to see this movie. Ten quid of that 84 million was my money =)
It was a good movie, no where near as good as dawn of the dead (both versions) or day of the dead, or even Land of the dead, but i enjoyed it.
The movie obviously made quite a massive profit, and now Rhett Reese is bitching about pirates! What a fag!
Id like to see a Zombieland 2, but even as a paying customer (for zombieland 1), ill pirate the crap out of all his work if he cant appreciate the massive amounts of money he HAS made.
im really tired of tools like this who like to pick and choose freedom..
he obviously likes the internet since he uses twitter.. but damn if any services that doesn’t fit his bill be permitted..
Got news for you retard.. we own the internet, you are on our turf.. we say what goes and what doesn’t.. and we have decided that your industry blows a huge knob.
What a f*cking whiny baby. He’s probably earned millions for his “work” and yet he still whines because he thinks he deserves more.
Beyond depressing indeed…whiny f*cking kunt. Maybe you should cut back on your cocaine and just enjoy life. Most people don’t have the millions that you’ve earned during these tough economic times.
I have never heard of the movie until now. It doesn’t sound like it’s worth wasting my bandwidth to download, much less actually pay for it giving my money over to some whiny millionaire coke head cunt.
I couldn’t give a flying rats kunt if you don’t make a sequel.
i pray the sequel isn’t made! download this shit movie everyone, and stop an even shitter sequel from being made!
Oh dear my heart bleeds for the poor bastard, by the way the film was fucking crap anyway! so it won’t be a big loss if there’s no follow-up film.
Rhett Rese is just posturing. The movie Zombieland has a box office take in excess of $80 million so far, and is still running in the theatres. The DVD release comes next, adding even more to the take. It was a relatively cheap movie to make, so based on the income from it so far, a sequel is a given.
Check the box office take here:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=zombieland.htm
Oh my. Rhett Reese is pulling a Lily Allen guilt trip. If there is more money to be made with a sequel then a mere co-writer will have no say in the matter. Have a nice day Rhett. ~ tweet tweet :)
he full of it Zombieland had a good run in cinemas in both the US and UK and many other counties before it hit the internet.
Rhett Reese is a lying sack of shit !!
What kind of a name is “Rhett” anyway eh? eh? eh?
Depressing?! Look piracy is marketing. If your media isn’t shared/downloaded, you should be worried. How do you expect to sell something if you can’t give it away?
If the only reason you’re making a sequel is to milk some more cash and create a franchise then don’t fucking bother.
Well, what the fuck is he complaining. Movie never came to my country neither to cinemas or DVDs.
yeha sure the day bit torrent stops a sequel from being pigs will also fly.
another in the long list a – holes who have no knowledge of how the market works.
unless the original script was written to have a sequel. DON’T MAKE A SHI**Y half baked forced down our throats sequel. i saw the movie in theaters and he already wrapped up the first movie, go make something else and quit whining about your so called loss of sales.
Notice that the tweet says “greatly affects the likelyhood”, but does not mention whether it affects positively or negatively.
Yea whatever you ef’ing jew, just make a sequel already and stop being a jew. Zombieland was great, I saw it in theaters. You should be greatfull your movie got downloaded as much as it did, it means people like it and want to see more.
“grossed a record breaking billion dollars in cinemas worldwide”
which record? Titanic is the highest-grossing movie. TDK is 2nd
Well, I was going to go see Zombieland in the theatres today, along with some others. Now, I think we’ll pick something else. We have a strict no supporting ignorant jerks policy.
And seriously, if quadrupling the production budget (or 60 million by itself) is insufficient to be considered a success, that means there’s something severely wrong with the system.
BAAAWWW please make a sequel Mr Reese…
I can’t wait to download it.
I’d suggest the likelihood of sequel is low because the movie it self sucked. Make me undownload that 5 GB of boredom.
“Embrace [bittorrent] before it is too late”
This seems counter intuitive, can you really argue that p2p is helping Hollywood and then also claim they need to embrace it before it is too late. Too late for what?
I support you and your message, just thought this was a bit off.
Did anybody stop a moment to savor the delicious ironic implication of the title:
Kill a zombie movie? … ???!!
I’ve heard the only way to do that is to chop off the head of the writer, get drunk, piss in the skull and bury it in concrete, then toss the block in the Marianer trench.
Listen. There’s always going to be a gorecraving crowd that’ll keep cranking out these things til hell freezes over anyway. If not b/hollywood then any 8-year old geek with dads handycam, a torn t-shirt and a bottle of Heinz ketchup can do it.
Zombieland is the highest grossing zombie movie in history, and yet this Rhett Reese person is whining that the likelihood of Zombieland 2 is in jeopardy all because of filesharing?
What a greedy little piece of shit.
I guess a return of $80+ million dollars and counting on a $25 million dollar investment isn’t good enough for him. And that’s before home video sales, which will push the gross even higher.
If a sequel happens, which is not unlikely considering the excellent ROI, I suppose it’ll be without this asshole on board since apparently he co-wrote Zombieland with the expectation that it would be an earthshattering $300 million dollar blockbuster or something. And boo hoo, wouldn’t that be terrible?
Yeah, everybody. Let’s all stop filesharing. For Rhett.
First of all, good. Hollywood needs to make fewer terrible movies and cutting unnecessary sequels would be a good first step.
Secondly Zombieland is the 3rd movie I’ve paid to see this year, I probably wouldn’t have paid to see a sequel given my first point, but given the information in the article now I definitely won’t. Way to alienate your fanbase Rhett.
When the going gets tough, quit…
Fail
The higher the bittorrent ranking. The better the film is. But Co-Writer? Theres always the other writers dickhead
So I see the movie in theatres – Very good movie, very funny and all!
Then it left theatres so I download it to watch it again, as it doesn’t come to DVD right away… Yet this is lack of support? This man is an idiot, I was one of the ones who helped push box office sales and helped push the 1 Million people downloading it.
Come on, my friends who didn’t see the movie refused to watch it with me, they planned to go into the city where it was still playing to see it, and didn’t want it to be ruined for them.
*laughs*
I guess the comments here arent any surprise, I would say most here are biased or “Pro-Pirate” as am I…
I would argue that there is any lost revenue at all, only gained..
Personally, I have wasted allot of money going to see crap movies, or buying crap software, or buying music(from otherwise talented bands) that suck ass…
You can NOT blame P2P for anything other than promotion, IF your product is worthy, it will get purchased, if it sucks, well..LoL
Unfortunately this is what scares the hell out of most, the whole “Try Before You Buy” thing… nobody handles rejection well…
If you want to throw money away and act like a child throwing a fit for attention, then dont make your sequel, there are a 100 movies ehind yours that will be DL’d/Promoted and no one will even remember “Zombieland”
But they will remember what a bitch you are…
Rhett, this comment is directed at you. I hope you get the chance to read it.
I’m disappointed, Rhett. You made enough money to pay for the production, pay the actors, etc. and the amount left over for yourself is still more than most people will ever have in their lifetime. You are the last person who should be bitching about piracy. Look at Ink. The creators are embracing BitTorrent because it helped to market the film and generate DVD/Blu-ray sales. It has been proven time and time again that piracy does not hurt you and never will hurt you. Yet, your industry still chooses to continue with its futile witch-hunt where only the innocent are hurt. To quote the Hacker’s Manifesto, “You may stop this individual, but you cannot stop us all. After all, we are all alike”.
from his twitter feed
thanks, sorry for getting on your case! We appreciate it. I just saw the 60 mins. piece on pirating and got depressed!
seems he upset with rubbish 60 min segement on bit torrent
…..good.
Lulz.
Pathetic.
Q ‘ed MAFIAA
beyond depressing huh rhett? then just go kill yourself as none of us will care anyway. your just a co-writer, so even if you did kill yourself a sequel will be made anyways. its just how the system works.
funny how i liked the movie yesterday…after reading this tards tweet today i no longer like the film,or desire to see a sequel.
congratulations rhett on alienating a huge portion of your fan base with your coke addled brein dead tweet.
douch bag.
Those who enjoy writing will write. Those who enjoy making music will play. Those who enjoy acting will act.
Those who really enjoy their craft will continue to craft. Only those into it purely for the greed will stop creating, and that’s just fine by me, since their heart isn’t in it.
what a little crybaby bitch. the guy is probibly filthy rich after this movie and before its out on dvd. its already tripled in profit for fucks sake.
word to rhett…id keep my mouth shut from now on as you alienate fans of the movie and you come across as a shrill,greedy,whiner. character attributes that most people do not embrace in this world.
im not looking forward to the sequel,but if it does come out ill bebe sure to download it for free and not give my money to these greedy fucks.
and with one little tweet rhett destroys any credibility he had.
you fail rhett as your sequel would have inevitably failed.
Who cares? Movie sucked.
You concocted a whole story out of two tweets. Nice job :)
Alot of places around me stopped carrying bootleg DVDs ’cause they said hardly anyone buys anymore, that people go to theaters more now.
Maybe ide go to the cinema if it actually felt like being in a cinema. These new cinemas are just massive silver buildings made out of steal. The charms gone and the prices have gone up.
I miss my old cinemas with the marble flooring and golden hand rails leading up the stairs. chandeliers hanging for the ceiling.. but that’s all gone now :(
Give me that back and ill go otherwise they can f**k off!!
this guy sounds like a greedy fool. i wonder how much input he even actually had. im curious as to what hes responsible for content wise in the movie.
i dl the movie,i liked it,then paid to see it in the theater. after reading his ”beyond depressing” comment i want my money back. im not a big fan of supporting some hacks coke addiction for my entertainment.
Aw. Di dums.
Piracy killed a sequel.. Well, great. Everyone knows that sequels have a high potentiality of fail :(
The movie sucked,I was mad i paid to see it.. Glad that poor excuse for a zombie movie got off film.. I want to see hostel 3 is that done yet?
Of course he will write a sequel because of the money he will make. If your gonna lie make sure it’s a good one.
Isnt it just amazing that 2 tweets can spark a huge amount of well deserved hate..
You just dont understand the rules of the internet do you..?
Its ok, we are here to learn you.. oh and trust me.. you WILL learn.. you have no choice.
this guy is an idiot.
the only good things about his movie was woody harrelson (FTW) and his high production value.
fuck a zombie love story!
that romance shit admist killing isn’t always good.
if i’d of known that i wouldn’t of payed to see the FIRST one. but if the 2nd one is any similar im not paying AGAIN. Make a better story scrub.
Piracy FTW only idiots or ignorant people think different.
watched it twice in the cinema, downloaded it as soon as the R5 came out and will buy the dvd the day it goes on sale.
having said that, this guy is a bitter writer. sequels suck. write something original douche!
“massive silver buildings made out of steal.”
i know that’s a typo but it’s a really appropriate one. :)
Get over yourself, your movie was pretty much shit anyways.
Well I guess it’s a good thing ” piracy killed a sequel ” because a sequel would have killed the movie entirely
[sorry if someone beat me to this, read most of the comments ;D]
“zombieland currently the most pirated movie on bit torrent”
you left out THIS WEEK, I hope he read the title of the ‘top’ right ;D
not seen it yet so won’t comment on the need/desire for a sequel but as stated above quite enough piracy is not [always] the enemy… the only justification I can give for that statement is that I have bought many films/games that I wouldn’t have looked at twice if I hadn’t already pirated it.
Rat Reese?
it was shit anyway! :D
with 83 million you can’t afford to make a sequel? fuck you then.
How long have they been coming out with this garbage? And how long have they been dead?
Oh wait, no, they’re still here, and films are still being made.
Wow, you lot are bitchy. Now, I know that not toeing the party line on here is kinda crazy, but I think it needs saying. Assuming ten dollars to see the film at the pictures is ten dollars, over ten percent of the viewings of the film were pirate viewings. That’s really quite a lot, and is bound to have hit his sales. I know round here we want to have everything free and everything now, but it is still against the law. And I’m sure you’d be upset if people breaking the law affected you. So give him a break. It was a fun film.
Most of the success of the Zombieland TS is the fact that the video quality is extremy high when compared to most other cam bootlegs
thats the thing @74
it DIDN’T effect him.
most people who pirate movies still go to the theater if the movie is good. instead of walking in to the movie then leaving and getting a refund.
he’s sad because he thinks he lost money. a TRUE artist is happy just knowing someone saw his film! not to mention 1 million pirates saw it and a lot of em probably liked it enough to see it in theathers.
i was going to download this movie, then i saw the trailer
With only a Twitter conversation to go on, it was probably something said in the heat of the moment. I’m sure that he realizes the ridiculous nature of his statement. That isn’t a groundbreaking amount of piracy for a film or anything, as he will certainly come to learn if he bothers to research it at all.
To be honest, I hope he doesn’t make a sequel. I really found Zombieland to be disappointing.
@Reese
QQ moar? #care less.
Seriously, I’d much rather watch a gameplay of Left 4 Dead than your sH*t movie. There was nothing funny about it, actors suck, storyline suck, no conclusion, etc.
please for the love of all people that have a brain kill them before they make a sequel to this shitty movie!
A lot hollywood is rubbish anyways I do so like some of the american tv shows such as sgu smallville getting darker and better every year.
A lot of independent films seem to better and then based on them im pretty sure hollywood steals the ideas or the same ideas have been used over and over again so my point being its time to embrace the technology of future.
Digital Sharing In any shape and form and not stupid prices fairs fair but no they dont one it that way money grabbing bast****.
dont care if he makes a sequel honestly, free is the only reason i might even be intrested in seeing it
Whilst everyone on here now hates Rhett Rheese for daring to even state his opinion (c’mon readback some of your posts people! You liked it yesterday, but now you’ve seen that twitter post you hate him and his film!!!!! WTF? THINK FFS!) they love Ink producers cause illegal sharing promoted their movie you need to read this quote from Kiowa
“We are shocked by this whole thing. We made our movie in Denver, CO with a very small budget and have done all of the distribution ourselves, fighting to bring it to 15 cities for theatrical screenings. We figured it would be pirated eventually, but didn’t expect it to happen so soon or for it to take off the way it has.
We are indie filmmakers, have zero studio funding and are in debt as a result of making the film. Having the film downloaded over 400,000 times is astronomical exposure for our movie, however I do wish there was some way to collect money from that. We view this as a huge and free marketing campaign for our film, but in order to move on to new films (we plan on staying totally independent) we need to prove that there is a financial model that works. If 400,000 people download and only 100 to 500 come to our site and donate a few dollars, that is not a financial model that will work. It’s a whole new era and I think everyone is trying to figure out what it all means. Thank you for the question. -Kiowa”
Source justpressplay @ http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/6156-filmmakers-thank-movie-piracy-for-popularity.html
The producers, whilst loving the exposure aren’t embracing BT as much as TF are making out. They still have to put food on the table and will not be able to make any more indies if they do not pay staff and clear their debt. What they are saying isn’t that far from Rhet Reese is saying.
Do people who liked Ink now hate it?
BALANCE people BALANCE
I can just imagine the conversation.
Corporate Suit:
Hey you want to make Zombieland 2?
Director:
Of course I do. I just have come up with some formulaic scrip and we’re good to go.
Corporate Suit:
Wait a second. You realize that your movie is one of the most downloaded movies?
Director:
Yeah, all the free publicity got people into the seats.
Corporate Suit: (whacks director over head)
Bad director!! Don’t you know that is wrong thinking. Download is bad, we don’t get to gouge the public as much.
Director: (sheepishly)
I’m sorry. I’ll make it better. I can suck you off, let you abuse my wife. Just don’t let me go away from the greed of Hollyweird.
Corporate Suit:
Get off your knees! You can do that later. Here get online and post this all over the place and maybe we might let you have another under budget production again.
(hand director some prepare corporate propaganda)
Director: Yes my Corporate Master
(see above blog)
“Pre-order. | Due for release on 22/03/2010″
“DVD Release Date Estimate Feb. 2010″
There’s your problem mister. Release it on DVD/BRD and I’ll give you money. I refuse to see it at the cinema. I can’t even drink beer or fart there, let alone discuss the movie with my friend.
It’s fucking bullshit to have the disc version coming out 5 months after the cinema version.
Zombieland was bad, if we all went & paid for this film we would been giving money for a sub par content.
So due to the fact that this film was below average & us file sharers found this out without having to hand over money & let the rest of the people know that it wasn’t worth paying for lets Reese know he mad a bad film & shouldn’t make a sequel.
So Reese just got exposed for making a bad film & yes…this is depressing for him :0)
@RhettReese #RhettReeseIsADouchebag
Wow, aren’t we just the powerful ones…. First we bring a multi-billion dollar industry to its feet i.e. rethinking its strategy around us – next we influence governments and law.
????,?????? ?? ?????,?????!!!!
Next we take the world !
downloaded zombieland, ended up watching it on fast forward and then wiping it off the torrents folder
not a good film and not one to pay £10 at the cinema to find out that it was naff…
@ 88 i did the same thing lol watched that movie in 5 mins and yes ppl thats how bad it was i wanted to take that kids list and shove it up his ass and wtf is up with twinks advert whore big time
What a twat. I paid with my GF to go and see that in the cinema, and while it wasn’t the best film ever, I enjoyed it and would go see the sequel.
He’s making huge amounts of profit, AND his art is popular in other circles. Isn’t this a good thing? And doesn’t he realise, more downloads = more potential fans/customers?
Is there anywhere I can email him? I’d really like to give him a piece of my mind… -_-
i went to see it and then got a copy of my friend who’s wife and sister went to see it then told there friends who also went to see it then asked could they have a copy of my friend witch he gave them and then my son told me he had been to see it, hang on i am trying to see were the lost sales are here.
“The Hollywood Insider wrote that the movie is “alive and kicking” at the box office, putting its success down in part to “strong word-of-mouth”.”
I really have to wonder- how many people’s version of “word-of-mouth” came from them watching a cam version (or part of a cam version) that they downloaded, and enjoyed it so much they wanted to watch it for real?
Besides, everyone knows cams are awful. If this many people are downloading cams this early on, that’s not a bad thing, Reese, that’s a GREAT thing! It means people love it enough that they’re willing to watch the cam version instead of waiting for the DVD rips!
as if anyone’s asking for a sequel from a muppet like him
I went twice to see this particular movie in theatres. Only reason I downloaded it was to watch it a third time without having to pay crazy cinema prices. Very good movie, it’s a shame this writer doesn’t understand the type of publicity the Torrent community gives.
Zombie, what is a flipping Zombie. The doesn’t bloody well exist and neither does Rhett’s magically missing profits. Never watched it, no plans to buy it on DVD or Sony BlueRay.
lol, punishing movie lovers because some people did bad.
Even though Mr Reese has recanted what he said earlier, I must admit that I no longer go to the movies. I work out of my apartment using the local coffee shops and libraries. This means I carry around my laptop with me. Many of the theaters here have no electronic gear restrictions and since my laptop contains all of my code and my client’s code, leaving it in some unsecure office is out of the question. News reports have previously reported on those being disallowed access for anything from a candy bar to a digital picture camera.
Mr Reese, if you’re serious about recanting your previous comments, may I suggest complaining about how movie theaters treat their paying guests? That’s why I had to download your movie.
“If this many people are downloading cams this early on, that’s not a bad thing, Reese, that’s a GREAT thing!”
@ 92 no and no this movie was downloaded so early becuase it was good qaulity but the movie sucked if theres a good qaulity download out there it doesnt matter how much the movie sucked it will still be downloaded that so called 1 mill download about %80 of those ppl deleted the movie after watching it
I love Zombie movies but this one really sucked. It was virtually unwatchable. Woody spends his whole time looking for a twinkie. This is the best he could come up with for a script?
i beg to differ, the movie was downloaded early on, since its still not released in some parts of the world like here in Australia… another 3 weeks until released here, no wonder it hasn’t taken so much world wide…
What an idiot??!
I would worry more if my movie isn’t anywhere to be found pirated.
Million downloaders??
I would drink a bottle of vodka just for that :D
Zombie Land…? Ahhh hahahah
NO LOSS…!!!
I call bullshit.
@Dr.RimZi ” would worry more if my movie isn’t anywhere to be found pirated.”
& your movie is called>?????
So we can all judge it and see if it’s sh!t
see what you people have done. now there is not going to be a Zombieland 2.
:(
I saw this shit at the cinema, on the premiere even, and it wasn’t worth the money. I want my money back, but as I can’t get them I might as well praise the pirates and hope that the sequel never happens. After all, what the heck would the sequel have that this didn’t? Oh wait… It might have a couple of more zombies >_<
another hollywoood asshole i have no sympathy for.MPAA wanted to screw with the world and now the more downloads the happier I am.
I no longer buy new Hollywood films only used ones !!!
The movie gets pirated a million times and pirates act like they are the ones being wronged? What the hell is wrong with you people? You’re nothing but a bunch of spoiled brats. The internet seems to have taught people that that everything belongs to them.
No one here seems to have an ounce of remorse for the effects of widespread theft. Yep, that’s right. Dress it up by calling it “freedom of information” or try and justify it by berating exactly that which you choose to download, it’s still theft. You are taking what isn’t yours without no regard for it’s creator.
Even when blindingly clear evidence and reason are brought before, you still behave like unrepentant children who were caught stealing cookies from the jar. You have the attitude to spit in the face of those who you steal from simply because that which you steal is not perfect.
You’re an idiot. If you really haven’t realized that downloading/piracy is just about ripping off the music/movie industry (and people getting what they want), then I don’t know what I can tell you. A movie came out, people felt like they were entitled to it, and they simply downloaded it, like it already belonged to them. An all time low in morality.
You want to be berate someone who had their work stolen? What is the matter with you?
And a TRUE custemor supports that which they enjoy instead of simply ripping it off, because they are lazy, god for nothing twats.
Wow. Sometimes I wonder how people like this live with themselves. It’s THEIR work. They have the right to profit from their own work. Get it?
Would you work for free? Oh wait, you don’t have a job because you’re too good for that as well.
Again, more brain dead stupididty. How would you feel if you spent months of your life on something and then a bunch of people just stole it from you, just because they think they are entitled? Are you telling me that you know more about the the movie industry than someone who actually works in it? Arrogant much? If you actually had any common sense at all, you would realize that if something is better, people actually have more incentive to pirate, it simply because they are getting more for their time.
You think, some of the best movies, like Star Trek didn’t get pirated a lot? What are you, high?
Now pirates think they are heroes for stealing things? Are you telling me that each of those one million people who stole this movie, actually runs some sort of film critic blog or told their friends that this movie isn’t good? Stop lying to yourself.
Wow, you are a selfish brat, aren’t you? Since when do you have the right to tell hollywood what to do? Since when where you think that you were appointed to tell people who to do?
Why would anyone “embrace” something that promotes theft of their own work? Im guessing that they are embracing LEGAL bittorent distribution, not piracy, you moron. Million of people avoiding payment doesn’t hurt sales? Are you on crack?
Zombies are interested in brains, clearly Reese is safe.
if this is true lets pirated twilight like theres no 2morrow and home that they won’t make a sequal… O..Wait didn’t work.
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Sequel? Why does there need to be a sequel? Oh, I know… to make more money by exploiting something that may or may not have been good to begin with–which in this case was not.
Anyone see “Men in Black II”?
Etc., etc., etc.?
Ya boohoo. Its really going to prevent a sequel? Get real.
Will someone please tell this GIANT douche that it is sequals that are killing the industry, not piracy.
ORIGINAL CONTENT is worth paying for. Let me make another shitty remake of a movie I have seen hundreds of times before. IE. Pelham123, Gone in 60 secs and The Italian Job.
Im certianly not feeling guilty, make me wait for around a month for it to be relased in AUS ( which sucks up the balls of US anyway and should be given the table scraps aka hollywood releases much fukin sooner) and then say oh noooesss ppl like our movie so much they have to have it and cant wait…
I’ve seen it, loved it and gonna drag half a dozen mates along to see ti when it is finally release dec 3rd. Theres about 100 bucks in your pockets ya douche.
I thought that the movie sucked big. I only watched the whole thing for the older sister hot chick
And gee, what else has this loser done? Anything? Never heard of him before, doubt we’ll miss anything from him in future. Haven’t seen the movie, but then there’s been no real twists on zombies in a couple of decades.
It’s just like the tabloids – stars bitch and complain when they’re talked about in them, but then they bitch and complain when they’re NOT talked about in them.
It’s all done to stir up some controversy – just like it did. It got people talking about him, good or bad, his name is still being tossed about. When it really should be just tossed OUT!
The movie was nice but making a sequel? The first film doesn’t offer much ground to build a house on. Let’s face it – plot is total crap. The humor is of such type that it gets annoying after a very short time. Seen this already in meny sequels.
Some movies are worth watching in the cinemas and even buying. The problem is they fucking lie to you. They take all funny moments (the sum of them all is about 3-4 min from the whole bloody film) from a whole 90min shit, put them together to make a trailer and show the people how cool it is. The people buy it/watch it on the big screen and realise: “Damn that sucks so hard that it hurt. Not to mention the brain-damage caused by it that made my life shorter with a couple of day even a week!”
I love watching cool films and I gladly buy them. But before that I want to know what I buy. Considering this the Film Industry should really think about changing the quality and the quantity of the shit they throw on our faces.
Quit whining Rhett
The film is great, is doing great at the box office and you’re STILL not happy
To quote Dusk Till Dawn:
“Are you such a loser that you can’t tell when you’ve won?”
did it ever occur to this guy that maybe the movie didn’t make any money cuz it wasn’t worth paying to see it?!
Yeah, right… And the revenues being 3 times what was spent making the movie is depressing.
Reese fails.
P.S.: I wouldn’t watch or download it anyway lmao…
poor you. i hope $60.8 million will be enough to cure your depression.
I actually don’t want a sequel to Zombieland because I really liked it. A sequel would detract from and cheapen it.
Only an arsehole would complain about his movie being watched by millions.. This just reaffirms that I shall never see any of his movies..
Taste it Reese.
Reese, quit bein a cry baby, it being downloaded over a million times has little to do with the FUNDING of the sequel. If that was the case, then most movies would be SOL for sequels ay?
Thank god, sequels always suck this is good news.
GOOD! I hope he doesn’t write a sequel to that POS. I’m glad I downloaded it and found out what a POS it really is before I spent my hard earned money on it!
very easy to solve. somebody who knows a bit about statistics, just run a test the correlation between the number of downloads a film has and number of dollars the film gets in box office, and then also, number of dollars it gets in DVD. When we have such numbers, then it starts to be interesting to draw some conclusion. At the moment whatever Hollywood says and sorry, also whatever Torrentfreak says is just empty words.
Sure, it is always possible to misinterpret statistics, but making statements without any statistics is no better.
Oh no! I need my shitty zombie movies!
writer may kill zombieland sequel, stuffs and casts Claim
um. isn’t this a good thing?
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Damn… Now I wish I wouldn’t have dropped that 20 bucks at the theater to see this movie- even after I fu*king downloaded and watched it for free… YOU HEAR THAT, MR. DOUCHEBAG REESE?!?! Your horrible copy-written torrent got you a SALE! You should appreciate what Bit-Torrent has done for you, greedy F*U*C*K! I really liked the movie, but now that I know the writer is a FAG, I don’t like it anymore. Actually, now I think I want a refund. GOD… Thank you TF for letting me know this, but you really did ruin my day.
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(sorry, I just want this douche to see my post since he seems to frequent the site…)
Well, I had not downloaded this yet, but I think I will now. Go Reese Go….
@ Rhett Reese
I downloaded your movie, haven’t watched it yet, and now I don’t think I will watch it. As a matter of fact I just deleted it! I refuse to support any whiny (or is that weenie) writer, producer, or studio! I will never download, watch, or pay for anything your ever do from this day forward. You lose crybaby!
And I suggest everyone do the same. Hit ‘em were it hurts, in the pocketbook, because obviously he has no balls to kick!
@ Tutame ex inferis
You have the stink of maffiaa on you! Go crawl back under your rock and quit pretending to be one of us, because your obviously not.
You dumb bitches is that the best you can come up with oh the film was shit so I wouldn’t watch the zombieland 2 or I downloaded it but I’m not going to watch it you sound like them dicks who say I walked out halfway through a film at the cinema and then still complain about the price of a ticket cant you do math idiots if a million plus people download a film and don’t go see it at the cinema hmmmmm do you babies think they might lose money durrrr.
For the record neo.wanker I downloaded both Wolverine and Star Trek and saw both in theater and bought Wolverine DVD and will have Star Trek when it comes out. No loss to industry, moron!
FUCK ZOMBIELAND!! COMEDY AND HORROR DONT MIX ZOMBIELAND SUCKS WHY SHOULD IT BE PART 2 LOSER
Too bad that the writer doesn’t own any rights to the series then, eh?
You don’t want to write a script? Someone else will. Tons of starving writers out there glad to do it for less than the cost of a back alley blow job.
Either way, I am uninterested.
Bah don’t care the whole zombie thing is so played out…
what a whining little kid!
zombieland earned to so much already…all they care is $$$
Wait, wait, wait a gosh darn minute. Why the hell would you make a sequel that you know is going to suck for that movie? That movie doesn’t even need a sequel and if he was smart would have kept his mouth shut. Now he tries playing the sympathy card that if people go watch and pay for it, not once but multiple times then he will make a sequel.
It’s a publicity stunt and TF fell for it! He thinks that by blaming pirates on the non-sequel that these hardcore fans will keep going back. I’ve seen it done before with movies like Grindhouse where they promised fans more movies and so far nothing.
Don’t listen to this garbage. If you like the movie, sure go see it, but don’t expect him to turn around and make a sequel you know he damn well didn’t plan on doing just because you went and saw it. Even if all 1 million fake statistical downloads were paid views, doesn’t mean he would put out a sequel.
Thats what you get for not going to global release around the same time
its only coming to theaters in january 2010 in some places in europe, how can you not expect piracy for something like that?
Shut the fuk up Reese, we all know that since the first one grossed over 64 million that a sequel is money in the bank and probably already being talked about and in the works.
Quit your bleeding heart bull$hit charade here and try and sell it too someone thats going to believe it.
You’ll prove me right when Zombieland 2 is announced and you cash in on your sequel to that piece of $hit you pumped out the first time.
Oh and btw, i wont even bother downloading the sequel let alone the original. I wouldnt waste my bandwidth on your crap, let alone PAY for it!
Hate the Hater (Rhett Reese).
I hope Rhett Reese is informed any fans he has left do not think very highly of him.
I never understand why they just mention the downloads and then fail to connect them to any negative effect to themselves- kinda like the MPAA’s calculations of piracy’s costs which are ludicrous in assuming everyone who pirated would have bought the work if piracy was impossible.
I download many movies I am going to see in the theatre before paying the 20$ for me and my girlfriend (only exceptions are when I know its good from some other source). Last one was Inglorious Bastards, downloaded a cam version and liked it so I went to see it hte next night.
I wish these people would stop equating piracy to lost sales on a 1:1 basis, try to think whether the piracy is even hurting them at all anyways, and realize that just cuz someone pirated your work doesn’t mean they don’t legally own it. When there aren’t legal demos of games, movies, et cet, capitalism finds a way ;)
I never watch these types of films, I hate them. But this time, I might just be downlloading it to pee him off even more :-)
EWven if I just delete it after downloading it..lol..
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If only it were true. We could kill all the crappy sequels this way.
Zombieland was a piece of shit zombie film with no gore and some retarded matter of fact love story, it’s a pathetic film, I’d watch the sequel just to laugh at it.
These idiots try to make money with last century ideas.
For sure they will starve to death.
Luckly, this is natural selection and these old fuckers will be gone soon.
Those winning money today are the ones who understood the new system.
He never said that it affects the likelihood in a negative way…
What a spoiled little shithead.
People are downloading his movie at such a high rate and yet it is grossing the highest of a zombie movie to date.
Can’t these people see some correlation between the two medias?
@119
You could look at it in the overwhelming negative manner you have
OR
You could know that you can’t do shit to stop people trying to get something for free, stop beating a dead horse and work on ways to capitalize on this force.
[quote]You’re an idiot. If you really haven’t realized that downloading/piracy is just about ripping off the music/movie industry (and people getting what they want), then I don’t know what I can tell you. A movie came out, people felt like they were entitled to it, and they simply downloaded it, like it already belonged to them. An all time low in morality.[/quote]
Why are trolls like this even tolerated here? *rolls eyes*
How I see it is this. People are now more inclined to preview content before laying down the dollar for it. Economy is forcing people to be frugal, bittorrent is allowing for more people to look at content before paying for something that they would be less than satisfied with. This means that the crap products that used to make money will no longer be filler for quality projects. My heart doesn’t bleed because the same standards are put to other in industry every day.
Let us never pay to watch a movie by this nob again! Pirate him to poverty! (like that would happen, I bet the cock made more for this movie than i would make in 10+ years of backbreaking work)
haha ji ur funny bro. lets pirate him till he has nothing muhahaha. i agree wat a waste of my time. tisk tisk
i thought it was great! but, even so.. it makes me wonder something. sites like this, are they beneficial to bittorrent or will they be the beginning of the end of it? my thought is places like this give them guys ammunition and unnecessarily convenient information…
the movie sucked
Just greed.
I am sure everybody involved in that film is doing JUST fine.
And I don’t care either whether he makes a sequel or not.
Wolverine, Galactica, Ink – there are too many examples that show that early release of a movie actually increase the amount of revenue it generates.
The exception of course is a movie like Lee’s 2003 Hulk – total shit is exposed.
Zombieland is just garbage hoping to capitalize on the success of more original movies like Shaun of the Dead. Funny how I had a torrent from the UK release of Shaun of the Dead almost a full year ahead of it’s NA release (along with millions of others) but it still did well at the BO.
An early release torrent exposes it’s content as what it it. in this case – total shit.
Don’t care if there’s no sequel. Zombieland = FAIL
It’s reallll simple.
Tell Mr. Reese to perform a poll. On the percentage of those individuals that downloaded the movie after seeing it in the theaters and wanted to retain a copy of they’re own to watch at home in private.
I know I personally payed for and saw the movie twice in the theaters. I know many others that have done the same. How many people can afford to go to the theaters multiple times in a row to see a release because they like it so much?
In this economy? Frankly, not many.
But that alone is a different perspective. If your going to read the industry and the public’s take on your movie. From Hollywood to the seedy under-belly of file-sharing / piracy. Then AT LEAST do it open minded and see the WHOLE PICTURE rather then seeing only one side.
- Agent117
the original wasn’t good anyways, his threatening doesn’t do any good. if he doesn’t want to do it for the compassion of moviemaking, and rather the whoring of money, so be it.
they should just have the effects team team-up with a good writer and better actors to make a cool movie.
@neo.styles: You still don’t get it do you? Let’s talk about DVD rips (not cam rips) because they have much better quality.
Someone buys the DVD, fair right?
Then shares it.
At WHICH point did others STOLE from the CREATOR, when THEY DIDN’T EVEN TOUCH THE CREATOR’S SHIT, THEY TOUCHED THE GUY WHO BOUGHT THE DVD’S UPLOADED DATA.
Stealing would be, if they went off and took the DVDs from the shelves without paying. Now that would affect the ones selling them, obviously, because they touch the things that belong to him/her.
YOU are the OPPRESSOR here. YOU prohibit people from doing something that doesn’t even TOUCH the “creator” and “his work”. YOU want the government to enforce what you can and can’t do with your computer when YOU DON’T EVEN TOUCH THE CREATOR’S SHIT.
GET THAT IN YOUR TINY HEAD ALREADY, YOU DUMBASS.
don’t go to the cinema, don’t buy the dvd, this movie is cheap crap…
Buhuhu… Can’t afford to give all the groupies a bag of coke any more ?
one can only hope this is true. the movie is a piece of shit. glad i didn’t waste any money on it, and if there were a way to take further money from the producers of said movie, i would.
Forget A Zombieland Sequel:
Writers Have 12 Films Planned Is there a Zombieland 2 in the works?
Rhett Reese: “We don’t know it all depends on how the first one does. So grab your friends, and make them cast their vote for Zombieland 2 by buying a ticket to Zombieland 1.”
Paul Wernick: “We’ve got some really fun ideas. And interestingly the last day of the movie, Woody told us that, “I generally never go back to a world, I don’t love sequels, but this is one I would be honored to do.” So pending the movie doing well and everyone being excited and loving it. As we hope they will, we’d love to do it.”
Rhett Reese: “And we’ll take what we intended to be episode three of the television show and start movie number two.”
Paul Wernick: “We got a 23 episode season in our head. So divided by two that’s about 12 movies in our head swimming around.
So that’s Woody and Jessie Eisenberg told us he was interested as well, let’s make it happen! I wouldn’t mind Zombieland 1, 2, and 3 at least.”
Got this from;
http://io9.com/5375730/forget-a-zombieland-sequel-writers-have-12-films-planned
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“No one here seems to have an ounce of remorse for the effects of widespread theft”
Hey, neostyles. I’ve got an idea. How about if I start calling you a child molester?
You’re only trolling on Torrent Freak, of course. That certainly isn’t child molesting. But then again, filesharing certainly isn’t theft, and that doesn’t stop you from repeatedly lying that it is.
So why don’t I take a page out of your own playbook to smear you, just as you attempt to smear filesharers by dishonestly calling them thieves? I think I will. Let’s give it a try:
I might be a filesharer, but unlike you, neostyles… AT LEAST I DON’T MOLEST CHILDREN!!
Hmm, I like the ring to that…
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“Even when blindingly clear evidence and reason are brought before, you still behave like unrepentant children who were caught stealing cookies from the jar.”
And where is all this so-called blinding evidence and reason eminating from? You? That’s a laugh and a half. You are as devoid of evidence and reason as the surface of the Sun is devoid of snow and glaciers.
Also, oh my god. Stop it with the metaphors involving children, you sick, sick pedophile.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“A movie came out, people felt like they were entitled to it, and they simply downloaded it, like it already belonged to them. An all time low in morality.”
How dare you talk about OTHER people having low morality, you goddamn child molester. By the way, you left out the part where downloading Zombieland didn’t stop it from becoming the highest grossing Zombie movie in history, which makes the assertation that filesharing hurt it quite laughable.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“You want to be berate someone who had their work stolen?”
No, they want to berate a greedy, whining douchebag for whom eighty million dollars isn’t good enough for a 23 million dollar movie to rake in.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“Would you work for free?”
Oh, is making eighty million dollars considering “working for free”? Sorry, I’m not a greedy, whining douchebag myself, so I don’t know how y’all logic works.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“How would you feel if you spent months of your life on something and then a bunch of people just stole it from you, just because they think they are entitled?”
Yeah!! How would you feel if you spent months of your life on something and then it only grossed EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS? Surely, you’d kill yourself.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“Now pirates think they are heroes for stealing things?”
Figthing against greed and corruption typically makes one a hero, yes. And the copyright industry is corrupt and greedy to the core. Some would call it justice.
But I’m sure you don’t even know what justice is, what with being a kiddy diddler and all.
@\\.neo.styles|sSG
“Since when where you think that you were appointed to tell people who to do?”
Since when do YOU think that you were appointed to tell other people what to do, Mr. Master Of Unintentional Irony And Total Failure Of English?
@neo.styles: Please point me to the first “honest” and hard-working job where you can get 60 million dollars from the employer. I’m talking about WAGE jobs, REAL HARD jobs, not sitting on your ass after you’ve “worked hard a few months” and duplicating as much as you want with your “magic wand”.
Thankfully normal people also have magic wands.
Oh also, I want a job without education: I don’t think you need high education for writing scripts, right?
People like Rhett are what makes normal people disgusted. Normal people who work their ass off.
@Duplicator
Free speech – you may disagree with neostyles, but he has a riht to an opinion or is this only a pirate-lovin one-sided blog where if you dont totaly agree you are sworn at called a moron etc etc= Very open minded and “free”supporting. You really do not help “sharing’s cause” with such ill-educated bombastic tirades.
Plus your analogy is incorrect.
Stealing physical DVDs from a bricks & mortar shop is different to stealing itellectual property on-line. Consider this:-
I sit in my car outside your house, hack into your Wi-Fi. WEP? WPA2 – both haxable if you know how. I now download illegal files via your connexion. I’ve “stolen” your bandwidth and used it to download illegal files and then you get an infringement notice.
I didn’t touch your computer or internet or “Sh!T(as you insist on calling it) according to your example. But I’ve still used a “service” i.e. bandwidth to obtain a movie, cd track or software. A couple in the UK have been arrested for this very thing. Obviously you’d be happy for me to “steal” your bandwidth, as it’s still there for you to use the next morning & you have lost nothing physical. You wouldn’t call the police, as you’ve lost nothing but gained an infringement notice??????
You don’t make it right by calling people dumbass in C A P I T A L S when your analogy doesn’t stand up.
They haven’t lost anything physical agreed, you do have something you haven’t paid for or acquired legally.
If you have a perfect copy, why bother to buy a legit copy, let’s face it. who needs all the fluff attached to physical sales> Fancy DVD cardboard cover, 2nd extra’s disc, advertsing for Sony Siemens etc etc so often a piracy does represet a lost sale.
Some dude was on National radio last night complaining M$ have cut him off from Xbox live, 360 etc. cause he has “chipped” his Xbox to let him use his 40 games he wants but can’t afford.
Yet people are paying £26 for COD MW2- so it does rep lost sales sometimes.
What we need to argue for is reasonable downloads off the internet via BT at reasonable prices, to cut out all the fluff, stop all that plastic from Software/CD/DVD with no DRM so we can play it on what device we want.
But you do not have a right for something for nothing?
Or we all follow that and chaos and anarch reign.
A “mere” 24 mil?
And how much did Romero, Carpenter, Argento and Fulci ever have? A mil or two? And THEY shot on FILM. When did a 24 million dollar mainstream ripoff of a genre that stopped being creative in the late eighties become the underdog?
If this guy were making movies because he loved movies instead of making ripoffs because he loved money, he’d be too busy making another movie to whine about file sharing.
Lol neostyles.. its really too bad that none of your arguments work.. since the movie industry is.. well lets keep this simple.. they are evil.
So f*ck them, and f*ck you.. your the idiot.. go ahead and stand up for a company that would rather see you in jail just for not wanting to fall into there everlasting scam.
Your a dinosaur just like them.. you will perish with like everything else that refuses to change.
So if you could please keep quiet your really annoying and your arguments are null.
@Tutame ex inferis: are you even listening to what you’re saying? Of course you STEAL bandwidth, you affect the very modem I own with your radio waves or whatever it’s used to hack into it.
Radio waves are just as physical as mechanical waves or pressure waves.
If you wanted this better, people wouldn’t use P2P at all, they would instead HACK into the MPAA database and DOWNLOAD DIRECTLY FROM THERE.
That’s YOUR analogy, and you can clearly see why it is not mine so please don’t talk BS about me.
NOWHERE in P2P do the crowd there touch the MAFIAA at all.
Picture this: if you steal my bandwidth you affect my modem. In effect, if you didn’t exist, it would have made a difference.
That’s not what’s happening with sharing. If someone copies from someone else, how does that affect the MAFIAA? There’s NOTHING they even TOUCH, and physics is on my side. Not even with dark matter, not with gravity, not with radio waves, not with mechanical waves, not with ANYTHING. NOTHING.
“Potential” customer excuse is like condemning everyone because we kill babies 24/7, after all, there are “potential” babies to be born that we don’t want, abort, or don’t do it efficiently as much as we can!
(artificial insemination would be much more efficient as well! so we deny a lot of babies’ life by not breeding 24/7 via heavy artificial industry insemination on the line, therefore, we kill potential babies, therefore, we are all criminals!)
The MAFIAA arguments for intellectual “property” make me sick.
By the way you can’t post here in english, someone thought of english or at least started it and then evolved, so it’s his property. Did you pay him anything?
Intellectual property is NOT property.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html
I downloaded a Zombieland after seeing how many were grabbing it. After watching for 20 minutes realized this was far too good to watch on my pc. I went to the cinema next week and dragged my friend to it who hates zombie films. After my friend was converted and I loved it. If I hadn’t started watching the pirate I never would have seen this film in a million years. So thanks to the pirate I found out about a great film.
Never heard of this flick before, I think I’ll go grab a copy now. If only just to make sure there won’t be a sequel.
@Duplicator, how do I “affect” your modem? I piggy back onto your WiFi – you lose nothing? You are asleep, you left your modem on. By your logic then someone put a DVD in computer, made a copy, “affected” their hard drive and altered in a way that it wasn’t previously. Therefore they have stolen a copy they have not gained permission for or obtained a licence for.
You have your right to your opinion though, and I mine. I have put an alternative view to yours. What I did not do is call you stupid, a moron, BS or a “dumbass” Accept your woprld view is not the truth or everybodys view. This piracy issue will be settled by informed intelligent debate by pwople with differing views. Not by name-calling swearing or SHOUTING people down.
What’s the point of blogs if people can’t disagree in a reasoned adult manner? Caalling people DUMBASS etc BS etc shows a lack of respect and understanding.
Filesharing and BT is good and could be made into useful legal distribution method, if Hollywood MPAA AFACT FAST MAFFIA etc listened. But immature Shouty posts convince nobody except Lowest Common Demoninator and lessen your POV/case
Lets debate in an intelligent adult(?) way and maybe, moves forward can be made.
Communism failed. Now capitalism has been hit hard. However, capitalism IS the major model on which trade exists. Wether filmakers make $80m or lose $$$s like producers of Ink probably will, that is never an excuse to Steal. If you steal, just admit it to yourself rather than justify it, and campaign for vchange to Hollywood/Music’s outdated Distribution model.
Fair prices for quality films, otherwise as more “old Business Model” buyers die and stop retailing, NO films of any decent quality will be made. They’ll get regular jobs like you and I (you do work, right)? No decent music. Look at the PC games market it’s dieing out. I hate consoles. I want to play games on PCs I build to my spec, not PS3 Wii or Xbox spec. But those console games are harder to pirate and if you do, become dysfuntional on line. PCgames easier to pirate – net result less games being made.
Let neo|styles Reasoned Mind et al have their view.
You are not a dictator. They may be misguided or wrong but surely, like you, entitled to an opinion without being called names – so schoolyard
This film is the worst…when i left the theater i stood at the box office door and told folks how crappy it was…after an hour they called the cops and made me leave.
This film is the worst…when i left the theater i stood at the box office door and told folks how crappy it was…after an hour they called the cops and made me leave.
@Tutame ex inferis: no you still TOUCH my modem with whatever you do to it. In effect you do steal it, it doesn’t matter what you do with it. If I was asleep I probably wouldn’t mind, but that’s not the point. The point is that you do it without my consent.
That’s not the case with sharing, because the MAFIAA isn’t involved further down the line.
But how does a person in a P2P network touch the MAFIAA? He copies the stuff from someone else’s computer, which is not the MAFIAA. That “someone else” probably bought the DVD.
And the reason I called him dumbass (the capitals were not just on that word) is because he’s a troll. No really, he is one, because that’s what he does: he goes in a topic, preaches, we answer him, then goes on to the next topic, WITH THE EXACT SAME SHIT. That’s preaching. That’s why he’s a troll.
By the way copyright is a somewhat communistic/controlled concept, not free market by any means. I mean, it requires GOVERNMENTS and the law to enforce it, to impose arbitrary restrictions on what you can and can’t do.
This isn’t free market, it’s controlled. So I don’t think what you said is true at all. Copyright is NOT a “free market” principle. It’s a monopoly principle.
greed.
they are looking at “how many downloaded for free” instead of “how many payed for it”
of course the former will always be a bigger number…
but most of the downloaders wouldn’t buy it anyway, and yet some will buy it because of the free download…
so, cry me some moar…
thats bullshit the movie biz is a bunch of prostitutes if a movie makes money their will be a sequel and he is most likely talking out his ass and is already contracted to the studio to write a sequel
194 is right. It’s not up to him whether or not a sequel gets made. They more than tripled their costs so far. Thats the only thing that matters.
why the fuck would they make a sequel? the bullshit every movie does not need to be a trilogy…
loved the movie and would have bought the bluray…but fuck you Rhett!.Stop espousing that MPAA bulshit line that you all know is FALSE.Grow some balls and back you’re FANS!!….. Dipshit!!
this tripe was so unoriginal and shitty all around that i dare u joke of a moviemaker make a sequel oh yah i’ll PAY to see that same crap
over
and over
and over again
I’ll pirate your suck ass hack job and tell you to go shove a spatula up your sphincter to flip your prostate.
I’ll never spend a dime on your movies now.
PS: hope it really does kill your career. couldn’t happen to a nicer twatwaffle.
Sequel-ism is sin
fuck hollywood.
Would have bought the Bluray but won’t be now.
Rhett you are a puppet piece of shit!.You all know we are your best customers.Go fuck yourself!!!!
@Duplicator
Why do bother arguing with Tutame?
I get the distinct impression he is probably just Rasined Brein on No-styles in disguise trying to fit in with the true user out here.
Notice how he capitalizes the word “steal”. None of the file sharers I know would call themselves a thief or consider it stealing.
Also his oh too random misspellings just seem a trifle to obvious. Its either that or his fingers are an inch wide!
Go back through some of his other postings on here, he just keeps ranting about how we are stealing. Sound familiar?
Please don’t feed this troll any more.
And @tutame
Save your own self from hell!
Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.
“It’s beyond depressing that there’s been a million downloads of my movie… I can’t even get the courage to count my 400% profit revenue from box office sales. To think that more than $60 million in profits could’ve came from this movie had it not ended up on bit torrent.”
Quit crying, and just tell Columbia Pictures to not be a bunch of faggots.
Stupid Movie, either make Horror movie or Comedy.. make up your minds you confused production house!
who give a f**K about sequel, this movie sucks anyway!!!
1999 Called, it want’s its writers-terrified-of-technology back.
Talk about sucking the sack….
Duuuude.
Faiiiil. Seriously, faillllll.
I haven’t even seen the first yet, but because of this I probably won’t even watch it at a friend’s who downloaded a dvd-rip of a cam-version burned to a blackmarket dvd.
Some people are just THAT stupid, eh?
Insults and personal attacks are merely the recourse for those who are cannot counter someone’s argument in a logical, civilized manor. You lack a response and so you respond with name calling.. Hardly unpexpected, since file sharing has zero moral foundation.
I bet that anyone who commits a crime believes that they are justified in what they are doing. Would you expect them to admit that it’s theft?
Tell that Star Wars or Lord of the Rings or Star Trek, etc.
I doubt it. The reason why people are so quick to justify piracy is because they don’t know anything about hard work, only laziness and self satisfaction.
Uhm, so what? In case you haven’t realized, we live in the digital age. Digital transfer is inherent, so this changes nothing.
This is exactly like saying computer hacking shouldn’t be a crime because you don’t physically “touch” anyone.
At which point, you went home and pirated it off a bittorent network?
That wouldn’t help your case because that would be nothing but unfounded name calling. But by all means, go ahead. You would only be strengthening your image as someone who resorts to making petty personal attacks.
Uhm, filesharing IS stealing. “Filesharing” is a deceptively innocent word for taking whats yours without paying for it or without the approval of it’s creator. This is theft in every sense. Im sorry if you don’t like the fact that “theft” makes your “hobby” sound good. You clearly like dressing up your illegal activities so you don’t feel so guilty about them.
Do you think you’re helping your case here?
Uh, I guess you didn’t bother to read the aricle?
Look at how you are trying to change the subject. Seems like even you realize that you’re claims hold zero water.
………….
First you try to act disingenuous with all the silly name calling act and now you can’t even get your own facts straight. It was the second highest grossing film, behind Dawn of the Dead (1990 remake.) If there weren’t so many people out there who felt entitled it WOULD have been the highest grossing zombie film. 90% of the stuff here is just “teh m0bviue sucks!11″ and I guess the fact that the movie brought in so much money pretty much nullifies those comments (”I don’t like it but that didn’t stop me from downloading an illegal copy!”)
..Yet here you are telling me that you have the right to tell people how successful their own work should be. Who are you to tell me how much money is “enough” for someone to make off their own work. What kind of morality does that reflect?
You call him greedy while most of the people here are trying to validate their right to steal whatever they want because it’s theirs? It’s not good enough? I doubt you actually have a job or know the first thing about honest, hard work, but imagine if you had a job, something you did was really great, and then a complete stranger comes in and tells you how much money you deserve to be making off of your own work. And you’re calling him a douche bag? Also, since when is criticism or making a point the same as whining? By your own logic, you’re whining, when you affirm you’re so called right to pirate anything you want.
You don’t read very well, do you? When someone pirates something they aren’t contributing a cent to that which they enjoy and thus the creator doesn’t earn a cent. If you passed english class, you would have realized that I was referring to the general concept of piracy which basically tells people that everthing belongs to them already and the creators shouldn’t get anything in return for their work. In essence, this is working for free.
This is exactly how communism works, so I hope you got your ruskie flag ready to go.
You give “moron” a whole new meaning. You clearly don’t understand anything about right and wrong, so let me dumb this down for you and hope that it hits home : THEIR WORK NOT YOURS. NOT GET TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH MONEY FROM THEIR WORK.
The whole time I’ve been wondering what country you’re from… Surely not America, because what you are preaching goes against American values. Have you ever heard of the American Dream? You know, people can suceed at anything no matter where they come from? Piracy flies in the face of that. You probably don’t know anything about hard work (being someone who thrives on their own laziness and sense of entitlement), so let me be frank. Go get a job. Maybe you’ll learn a think or two about doing honest work instead of sitting there and inhaling everything you’re little heart desires.
See, I keep on telling myself that there is no way you could be from the states.. It’s not me, it’s the law. Morality is clearly like a different language, so let me be clear. “Filesharing” (as you choose to dress it up) is criminal.
You are the eptitome of what I was talking about. You are proud of the fact that you rip people off. You think you have a god given right to take anything that isn’t yours. Do you also think you have a right to take your neighbors tv because they already have enough stuff (and them wanting anymore than they have now makes them greedy)? I was going to try and educate you on something called “payment” and “fair exchange”, but there is no way you’d be able to wrap your head around it.
who give a f**K about sequel, this movie sucks anyway!!!
No sequel? GOOD!
Good.
If your making movies or not depends on a BT download rate instead of realizing an artistic vision, then F U.
Roll over and die and let those with real balls step in to do what they WANT to do. Poser.
Considering that the truth seems to be that there is a net PROFIT on this film, this is obviously yet another trolling attempt by the industry to discredit the power of BT.
Lies, tweets and videotape, ey?
Posers.
Stop whining!
You’ll make few more millions with dvd release and everything will be fine.
I don’t dislike paying for movies; I dislike the movie-going experience, specifically most of the people who end up sitting around me. It’s hard to get into a movie while surrounded by a barrage of ring tones, people talking, crying babies and people trying to film the movie with their cell phone camera (so stupid). I’d rather download the movie to determine if it’s any good, and if it is, buy the DVD/Blu-ray when it comes out. I’ve spent thousands of dollars on a home entertainment center to give me a theater-like experience (without all the jerks and sticky floors), and that’s where I watch movies.
I suspect there are at least a million people out there who agree with me.
Yep! they’re hurting for money real bad.
And – absolutely! 1 million downloads is a significant percentage of un-earned revenue to get their panties in a bunch over.
Never saw the movie – wasn’t high on my list to see – might check it out sometime – but either way – they’ll never gett a full ticket price out of me for seeing it.
Which there is something that doesn’t make sense. Months later – I can rent [blockbuster] or download [via Netflix/ iTunes] for $4 or pennies and the movie-makers never earn a full amount on the viewing price.
Why don’t they take that into account when they are bitching about hteir lost revenue?
Before “the download” era – most of the movies I saw would be on video well after the theater release was over. Or if I went – I’d use a student ID and get a significant discount anyway. I have rarely if ever paid full price for a theater ticket in the first place. And I have lived in 2 college towns over the past 25 years and I gaurantee most of the population[s] 500,000+ people most likely used their discount also.
Lost revenue – lost revenue!! Absolutely – don’t put out a sequel to Zombieland.
It wasn’t one of those movies that struck me watching the trailer – “Wow – I really need to see that movie in the theaters on the big screen!”
Iron Man and Star Trek I saw in the theaters. I will see their sequels in the theaters as well.
Zombieland – not so much.
@ Anonymous
Quote”I dislike the movie-going experience, specifically most of the people who end up sitting around me. It’s hard to get into a movie while surrounded by a barrage of ring tones, people talking, crying babies and people trying to film the movie with their cell phone camera (so stupid). ”
I’m right with you there.
Going to cinemas to see a film is mostly an over expensive let down by idiotsa with their cell-phones lighting up(even if they are on silent mode) every 10 seconds ; it’s just not worth the hassle. A truly depressing experience
@ by the way LMFAO if you think I’m those people, but hey you are allowed an opinion as are the people you so despise, just because they don’t agree with your fatuous argumnents
@Duplicator
Nearly a “Reasoned” artgument. Pity you still can’t make it without Swaery shouting oh well
Well I wasn’t exactly trying to insult, just used to say things like shit and such when others say “stuff”.
Anyway I think neo.styles deserves that treatment, because he’s a troll. Make no mistake, it’s not because I disagree with him. Reasoned Mind, for instance, makes more thought-out posts and you can reason with him, he’s not as extreme.
I don’t know if they’re the same person and he does it intentionally with neo.styles or if he truly is that way. I don’t care. I care what they post, and neo.styles is by far the real “troll”.
Hope you get what I meant.
First of all, I watched the movie at the cinema and paid full price. Secondly I downloaded the movie to watch at home.
The fact that I downloaded something does not automatically mean I would not also pay for it.
Also there are many more movies I have downloaded – but had I not downloaded I would never have paid money to watch, either because the movie was awful or simply because I did not have the spare cash to spend on a movie.
The problem is the big companies think that every download = a missed dvd sale.
Please don’t make another one! The first one is enough to put me to sleep, let alone a sequel.
People would happily pay a $15 theater fee due to an uninspiring trailer and then go and blabbering about, what, how kick ass the movie was?
So of course piracy is to blame, ’cause it couldn’t be the fact that a crappy cam at least showed something the trailer didn’t, something worth spending a theater fee on.
Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t exactly the newest Star Trek movie in IMAX format, but for the old and outdated common theater version, it was good enough, during a halloween month, when every horror flick is supposed to be kind of crappy retro, even the comedy versions of 80’s horror.
I like how everyone is advocating the downloading of crap you didn’t pay for.
World’s a fucking lost cause.
what ever will we do without zombieland 2?
I liked the movie. And most of you are full of crap. You’d rip the movie cheap or not. You steal because its easy. I mean how easy is it to sit at your computer and click a button. You make DRM and piracy protection happen…Thanks to you it will become more pervasive.
dude it was a good movie, but was it worth you now deifying yourself thinking you can make a difference in the downloading community? Fuck your mutha bitch. I payed to see this, the disappointment is now you. this movie was no Shaun of the Dead.
So tell me “antihypocrite”,
Why is it I still go to the theater and watch movies I download or buy the DVD collections, or why do I go to concerts and buy CDs and other merchandise when I can just get it for free as you say? Why? Because I still support the arts and artists, but not the money grubbing corporate fat asses that try to make a criminal out of me, when they should be coming up with ways to capitalize on this emerging technology. If they spent as much time, effort, and money investing in ways to provide what the CUSTOMER actually wants, not what they THINK we want, they would make truckloads of money.
I have a family member who is currently fighting a battle over copyright of songs that she wrote. Is that right? No! Where is the justice in that? Do you get paid for work you did last year, or ten years ago, I think not. So why should they continue to filch money from me for something that was made 5, 10, 20, or 30 or more years ago? Does not make sense to me.
The movie was ok. Sequel will probably suck but I’ll download it anyway. You’re not getting any money from me :p
umm… if the movie was successful why would downloads cause him not to write it? Further more doesn’t success rely on money made? So what It made money but just not enough to satisfy him? I’m confused. As an artist I couldn’t give a rats ass how people got my work, just as long as they loved it. I thought that was the point. Guess I should change careers…
Thank you Toad Licker,
I wish more artists would man up and say things like this. I have plenty of musician friends and they all feel like you. They just enjoy performing and putting their music out there and if fans like it they will buy their merchandise and pay to see their shows. For them its about the art NOT the money. Kudos to you and all like you!
I don’t normally post…anywhere, and this has gone on so long it’s bound to not get read but whatever. To all the people who are against “pirating” There are billions of people who, I’m sure don’t even know what the heck a torrent is, let alone know how to dl anything such as a movie or a song for free. I would also like to add if “Piracy” was so unwanted by the majority, if not all of the producers, film companies, music industrialists, artists, etc, then WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL ALLOWED!?! Answer that one. If it were completely illegal don’t you think it would be stopped at every turn, every P2P site would be shutdown under court order, that’s all it would take is a lawsuit from a company and they can instantly lock it down for investigation etc. So I say, and at this point don’t really care if it comes across as childish or what have you but, shut up about the so called “piracy” I say your either jealous you can’t do it or don’t know how, or you got suckered into paying for something you didn’t like.
If these industried want to be taken seriously then I propose this, not that they will read it but this is the internet, it will get spread about. So I propose, they make an agreement with everyone who has the ability to go to the movies, buy a dvd or cd, see a concert. If we don’t like it you take it back or gives us an equal amount refund plain and simple, in return you can shutdown the P2P sites. I think it would be a fiar trade, a no questions ask refund policy, because let’s face it people, how many cd’s did you buy just to find that 1 out of 23 songs didn’t suck. The movie was total crap or some punk talked through it or the douche bag 2 rows up answered his cell phone, I mean come on. Focus on fixing all the problems that exist with what had been in place long before “Piracy”. How would he feel if, out of his profits, the production company had to pay back every bit of money to the people who didn’t like the film, if you have to only give money back to the ones that walk out, you know they didn’t like it for sure. Just saying, there are worse things/more important things to deal with than someone dling a movie. You want more money, here it is, fix the economy. Flame, rebute, troll, agree, what have you, I typed my piece.
229th!!!! 1st wut?
yeah right, is this guy 5? “since i cant have more money, i wont make any at all” as he sticks his tounge out and puts his thumbs in his ears. thatll show them. while your at it how bout trying to get rid of all the porn on the internet. and if u got time fix global warming.
I think the film makers you pricks are whining about should have access to your bank accounts. They should withdraw money at their leisure & you should take it with a smile, cause fuck knows – you can make more!
Get off your asses and do a better job or shut the hell up!
Good god you are a bunch of hypocritical mindless faggots, aren’t you?
You’re all talking like you have a “right” to steal movies for nothing, and for someone to get upset that you stole their work is “whining.”
Are you so removed from reality? It might not be that many people who downloaded the movie would have seen it anyway, but if only 1 in 100 did then that still represents a loss of a revenue and when you make films it is about the bottom line. Just because a film is profitable, it doesn’t mean that the sequel will be. Sequels in Hollywoord tend to follow the law of diminishing returns, so you need a very successful first movie in order for the studio to sign off on the second.
This guy wants to make another movie and get paid for it, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. He also wants people to pay for the entertainment products they consume. Again, there is nothing wrong with that.
For all the advocacy of file sharing being about rights and a different philosophy you guys come off as a bunch of clueless pricks who take things just because they can and then think they’re entitled.
I hope you all get kicked in the teeth pretty soon.
I am glad I pirated it, it wasn’t worth a trip to the cinema or purchasing on DVD.
“when you make films it is about the bottom line”
….doesn’t even need a comment, does it…
There is rarely anyone who downloads a movie and then goes out and watches it in a movie theater. After they’ve already watched the movie. I know I’ve been to exactly 0 movies in the theater after I’ve downloaded and watched it.
I have no issue with a guy that doesn’t want you to pirate a movie. Calling him whinny for trying to get paid for something he’s done is retarded and you all take a look around. Next time you go to work, in a restaurant, or office, or a machanic, or w/e. How would you feel when someone doesn’t want to pay you for the food in your restaurant. Or someone doesn’t want to pay but still wants you to do his accounts, or you fix someone’s car and he doesn’t want to pay you for that. it’s the same thing. Intellectual property is the same as material goods in the sense that it’s his, he made it, he sold it, now we pay for it.
You’re all having a bitch fit just because someone wants to get paid for something they did. Grow up kids.
FOR THE ATTENTION OF RHETT REESE:
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$60million profit (SO FAR) on one movie (or ~300% budget:revenue ratio) and that’s US box office takings alone. Not international, not DVD, nothing else… just US box office.
You sir… are a GREEDY C*NT. If it’s THAT depressing, do us all favor, top yourself, that $60million could be put to much better use.
@Lobster: yet another clueless moron who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
If I hear the word stealing again I’m gonna get my shotgun and shoot you all through my monitor.
You don’t get it do you? Once a movie is created (or anything related to “intellectual property” for that matter), the supply is infinite. Why should each and every customer pay for something as trivial as copying them, which by the way they can do themselves?
Of course movies cost a lot of money to make. But it doesn’t change the fact that you make them once. Hence it should be funded by people, not selling it endlessly.
And to whoever DARES to compare this RIDICULOUS crap again to a “normal job”, let me ask you this:
WHERE CAN I GET A NORMAL JOB WHERE ALL I HAVE TO DO IS TO WRITE AND GET $60 MILLION IN A MATTER OF MONTHS?
And where can I get said job where I DO NOT HAVE TO WORK CONSTANTLY, since I can duplicate my previous works as much as I want and people will pay me.
Tell you what, in a real job, unless you work hard CONSTANTLY, you get fired.
damn everyone who thinks that duplicating DVDs is hard work, because THAT’S WHAT YOU PAY FOR, NOT THE MOVIE’S CREATION, BUT THE COPY. THAT’S WHY IT’S NOT STEALING.
There are a lot of retards commenting on this.
That is all.
@#230 Lobster
Our ability to communicate with one another > Your ability to censor information.
Stop crying already. Come up with some new unbreakable format that we have to buy. Until then your stuck with us sharing it.
A lot of people don’t realize, but back in the day when you paid for CD sales, their excuse was that the manufacturing process is expensive. In other words, people STILL don’t know that you pay for DISTRIBUTION. That’s what it ALWAYS was about. Go and read on the history of copyright a bit before throwing the word “stealing” ok?
In today’s age, distribution costs are so low that anyone with a computer can do it, so why would people still pay? Whether you like it or not, that’s what this MODEL was based on: distribution.
The price of a CD is artificial now, there’s no distribution costs anymore, but it maintains its price.
This model doesn’t work anymore, because expensive distribution doesn’t exist anymore. A totally different model needs to be made.
This is to bad, I watched Zombieland on a streaming site which shall remain nameless and I loved it. It’s not yet in cinemas here and I can only say my friend and I laughed so much that it went straight on my DVD must buy list.
I am unsure if Zombieland is really suitable for a sequel or if doing one would milk the universe of to much. Maybe it should remain one of the funniest zombie movies of our time and not become a franchise – maybe that would be the brave decision – just let it remain great.
@ Duplicator, Reasoned Brain
Amen brothers, duplication costs in the digital world is practically zero. Take a look at the cost of buying a digital copy of a book. Its nothing more than a few megabytes at most and yet, in many cases, especially new releases, they charge as much as, if not more than, for an actual physical hard copy. Sure the writer should get paid, yes they should get money for a digital book.
But is it right to charge $10, $20, or more for something that is by nature vapor-ware? It is already in a digital format to go to a printer so why charge so much?
Disc duplication is dirt cheap, you can purchase a machine for $1000 that can duplicate 50 cd/dvd’s in an hour. Thats 72,000 in a 24 hour period. Using ONE master copy. Search for the specs on “XLNT Idea Nexis 100AP CD/DVD Publisher” for yourself.
Where is the cost?
Musicians hardly make any money from cd sales. They get most of their money from concerts, merchandise sales, etc. The distributor does though. Tons of it.
Same goes for Hollyweird!
OK, I’ve rambled enough, let the flaming commence!
Fuck Rhett Reese and fuck Zombieland.
Could give a rats ass about either of them. No need to give an explanation, or justification.
Keep on livin in the 90’s lol
@236 very good point! :)
@25 that was a very cool vid t/y
Zombieland sucked ass, i hope there is no sequel to this garbage of a film.
Oh I’m sorry but Zombieland has not been released in my region and will not be for a few more months. Maybe if you released it close to the US release date I would of seen it in cinemas (Which has still not happened).
i think this movie is fucking amazing
this all movies you can download with faster speed :)
The movie sucks. And I actually paid for it at the theater. I want my money back, plus damages for the time I wasted watching that shit.
Rhett Reese is missing the point: he’s STILL going to make just as much money if not MORE money even with his movie being pirated.
A bitorrent ‘cam’ film is just a “marketing video”, not a complete movie in the real sense because a person views it with the same mentality as in viewing a preview or clip of the movie, and after watching it would be more excited about seeing the ‘real’ movie either on DVD or in the theater on the big screen.
Benefits to film studios of someone watching a movie from bittorrent when it was just released in the theater:
Free advertising on thousands of bittorrent client apps.
Free advertising through word of mouth on the street.
Free advertising online on thousands of blogs, review sites, etc.
Free advertising via news media
The person would advertise it word of mouth to friends and family telling them what a great movie it was and as a result they would then go see it in theater and pay money, thereby producing film revenue where there was none before for the film studio.
The person would be ’sold’ on it and would then be justified to spend money to go buy the DVD when released knowing what to expect, so the film studio would still make money anyway.
The person would then be a fan of the film and then would buy related merchandise, toys, collectables, etc., making money for the film studio.
The person would become part of a fan base and write blogs, post reviews online, producing more interest in the film and causing more people to read the posts, etc, and to go see it in the theater, so the film studio would get free advertising and also make more money.
A good example is X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Go to wikipedia and check out its budget ($150 Million) and its gross revenue ($373 Million). Oh, and a sequel is planned as well so Rhett Reese reason of no sequel is unfounded.
If you lose one sale from the download, but gain several sales down the line when people download because they heard about it through word of mouth, you are really not at a loss are you? Word of mouth advertising has been an essential tool for a long time.
P.S. The writer sounds like a tool too, but he is not an essential one.
Netherlands 14 January 2010
How about releasing it earlyer? Where am I supposted to see it
If you watched his (Rhett Reese) rant on a forum I’ve gotta say two things to him.
First is: FUCK YOU GREEDY WHINY PIECE OF SHIT.
Second: I hope you’ll be in my financial situation where you can barely pay for the HARDWARE to play the “media”, let alone the content. Nevermind the fact that I would NEVER buy it simply because I’ve got better things to spend my money on, more essential things, not on Ferraris like you, greedy piece of shit.
So is it really wrong if I get some entertainment? Really? I CAN’T PRINT MONEY YOU MORON, if I don’t pay for luxury I use that money to pay for essential things in my life. Is it so wrong that I can get some luxury which otherwise I could NOT afford? It’s not like it hurts anyone.
I hope you lose your health you bastard, because that’s one thing you can’t buy with your millions today.
oh and his comment about “It’s America. It’s capitalism”, he’s damn right about that! So why does he want the government to intervene with artificial restrictive laws on the free market?
Let the prices reflect the distribution process, not artificially inflate them. If you want to be paid for your investment look into a different model, like getting paid beforehand, raise funds, you whiner.
If you watched his (Rhett Reese) rant on a forum I’ve gotta say two things to him.
First is: GO TO HELL YOU GREEDY BASTARD.
Second: I hope you’ll be in my financial situation where you can barely pay for the HARDWARE to play the “media”, let alone the content. Nevermind the fact that I would NEVER buy it simply because I’ve got better things to spend my money on, more essential things, not on Ferraris like you, greedy piece of shit.
So is it really wrong if I get some entertainment? Really? I CAN’T PRINT MONEY YOU MORON, if I don’t pay for luxury I use that money to pay for essential things in my life. Is it so wrong that I can get some luxury which otherwise I could NOT afford? It’s not like it hurts anyone.
I hope you lose your health you bastard, because that’s one thing you can’t buy with your millions today.
oh and his comment about “It’s America. It’s capitalism”, he’s damn right about that! So why does he want the government to intervene with artificial restrictive laws on the free market?
Let the prices reflect the distribution process, not artificially inflate them. If you want to be paid for your investment look into a different model, like getting paid beforehand, raise funds, you whiner.
good shitty sequels whose only purpose is money via the success of a franchise just degrades it…
Zombieland was so good people in the theater actually clapped at the end of it. Claspping at a movie! yeah it hurts my head too. They made x3 the investment and they haven’t even started DVD/BDVD sales yet. If anything high download rates should encourage them to make another. It’s called a fan base.
Oh and FYI I saw it in the theater and downloaded it at home.
The writer stole the whole idea from other writers. Nothing in movie was really original.. pretty much just a less funny remake of “Shaun of the Dead”
He is probably asking for too much for a second movie and the studio is telling him “go to hell.. anyone can write this crap”.
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