He is probably asking for too much for a second movie and the studio is telling him “go to hell.. anyone can write this crap”.

Oh and FYI I saw it in the theater and downloaded it at home.

First is: GO TO HELL YOU GREEDY BASTARD.

Second: I hope you’ll be in my financial situation where you can barely pay for the HARDWARE to play the “media”, let alone the content. Nevermind the fact that I would NEVER buy it simply because I’ve got better things to spend my money on, more essential things, not on Ferraris like you, greedy piece of shit.

So is it really wrong if I get some entertainment? Really? I CAN’T PRINT MONEY YOU MORON, if I don’t pay for luxury I use that money to pay for essential things in my life. Is it so wrong that I can get some luxury which otherwise I could NOT afford? It’s not like it hurts anyone.

I hope you lose your health you bastard, because that’s one thing you can’t buy with your millions today.

oh and his comment about “It’s America. It’s capitalism”, he’s damn right about that! So why does he want the government to intervene with artificial restrictive laws on the free market?

Let the prices reflect the distribution process, not artificially inflate them. If you want to be paid for your investment look into a different model, like getting paid beforehand, raise funds, you whiner.

First is: FUCK YOU GREEDY WHINY PIECE OF SHIT.

Second: I hope you’ll be in my financial situation where you can barely pay for the HARDWARE to play the “media”, let alone the content. Nevermind the fact that I would NEVER buy it simply because I’ve got better things to spend my money on, more essential things, not on Ferraris like you, greedy piece of shit.

So is it really wrong if I get some entertainment? Really? I CAN’T PRINT MONEY YOU MORON, if I don’t pay for luxury I use that money to pay for essential things in my life. Is it so wrong that I can get some luxury which otherwise I could NOT afford? It’s not like it hurts anyone.

I hope you lose your health you bastard, because that’s one thing you can’t buy with your millions today.

oh and his comment about “It’s America. It’s capitalism”, he’s damn right about that! So why does he want the government to intervene with artificial restrictive laws on the free market?

Let the prices reflect the distribution process, not artificially inflate them. If you want to be paid for your investment look into a different model, like getting paid beforehand, raise funds, you whiner.

How about releasing it earlyer? Where am I supposted to see it

A bitorrent ‘cam’ film is just a “marketing video”, not a complete movie in the real sense because a person views it with the same mentality as in viewing a preview or clip of the movie, and after watching it would be more excited about seeing the ‘real’ movie either on DVD or in the theater on the big screen.

Benefits to film studios of someone watching a movie from bittorrent when it was just released in the theater:

Free advertising on thousands of bittorrent client apps.
Free advertising through word of mouth on the street.
Free advertising online on thousands of blogs, review sites, etc.
Free advertising via news media

The person would advertise it word of mouth to friends and family telling them what a great movie it was and as a result they would then go see it in theater and pay money, thereby producing film revenue where there was none before for the film studio.

The person would be ‘sold’ on it and would then be justified to spend money to go buy the DVD when released knowing what to expect, so the film studio would still make money anyway.

The person would then be a fan of the film and then would buy related merchandise, toys, collectables, etc., making money for the film studio.

The person would become part of a fan base and write blogs, post reviews online, producing more interest in the film and causing more people to read the posts, etc, and to go see it in the theater, so the film studio would get free advertising and also make more money.

A good example is X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Go to wikipedia and check out its budget ($150 Million) and its gross revenue ($373 Million). Oh, and a sequel is planned as well so Rhett Reese reason of no sequel is unfounded.

@25 that was a very cool vid t/y

Could give a rats ass about either of them. No need to give an explanation, or justification.

Keep on livin in the 90′s lol

Amen brothers, duplication costs in the digital world is practically zero. Take a look at the cost of buying a digital copy of a book. Its nothing more than a few megabytes at most and yet, in many cases, especially new releases, they charge as much as, if not more than, for an actual physical hard copy. Sure the writer should get paid, yes they should get money for a digital book.
But is it right to charge $10, $20, or more for something that is by nature vapor-ware? It is already in a digital format to go to a printer so why charge so much?

Disc duplication is dirt cheap, you can purchase a machine for $1000 that can duplicate 50 cd/dvd’s in an hour. Thats 72,000 in a 24 hour period. Using ONE master copy. Search for the specs on “XLNT Idea Nexis 100AP CD/DVD Publisher” for yourself.

Where is the cost?

Musicians hardly make any money from cd sales. They get most of their money from concerts, merchandise sales, etc. The distributor does though. Tons of it.

Same goes for Hollyweird!

OK, I’ve rambled enough, let the flaming commence!

I am unsure if Zombieland is really suitable for a sequel or if doing one would milk the universe of to much. Maybe it should remain one of the funniest zombie movies of our time and not become a franchise – maybe that would be the brave decision – just let it remain great.

In today’s age, distribution costs are so low that anyone with a computer can do it, so why would people still pay? Whether you like it or not, that’s what this MODEL was based on: distribution.

The price of a CD is artificial now, there’s no distribution costs anymore, but it maintains its price.

This model doesn’t work anymore, because expensive distribution doesn’t exist anymore. A totally different model needs to be made.

Our ability to communicate with one another > Your ability to censor information.

Stop crying already. Come up with some new unbreakable format that we have to buy. Until then your stuck with us sharing it.

That is all.

If I hear the word stealing again I’m gonna get my shotgun and shoot you all through my monitor.

You don’t get it do you? Once a movie is created (or anything related to “intellectual property” for that matter), the supply is infinite. Why should each and every customer pay for something as trivial as copying them, which by the way they can do themselves?

Of course movies cost a lot of money to make. But it doesn’t change the fact that you make them once. Hence it should be funded by people, not selling it endlessly.

And to whoever DARES to compare this RIDICULOUS crap again to a “normal job”, let me ask you this:

WHERE CAN I GET A NORMAL JOB WHERE ALL I HAVE TO DO IS TO WRITE AND GET $60 MILLION IN A MATTER OF MONTHS?

And where can I get said job where I DO NOT HAVE TO WORK CONSTANTLY, since I can duplicate my previous works as much as I want and people will pay me.

Tell you what, in a real job, unless you work hard CONSTANTLY, you get fired.

damn everyone who thinks that duplicating DVDs is hard work, because THAT’S WHAT YOU PAY FOR, NOT THE MOVIE’S CREATION, BUT THE COPY. THAT’S WHY IT’S NOT STEALING.

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$60million profit (SO FAR) on one movie (or ~300% budget:revenue ratio) and that’s US box office takings alone. Not international, not DVD, nothing else… just US box office.

You sir… are a GREEDY C*NT. If it’s THAT depressing, do us all favor, top yourself, that $60million could be put to much better use.

I have no issue with a guy that doesn’t want you to pirate a movie. Calling him whinny for trying to get paid for something he’s done is retarded and you all take a look around. Next time you go to work, in a restaurant, or office, or a machanic, or w/e. How would you feel when someone doesn’t want to pay you for the food in your restaurant. Or someone doesn’t want to pay but still wants you to do his accounts, or you fix someone’s car and he doesn’t want to pay you for that. it’s the same thing. Intellectual property is the same as material goods in the sense that it’s his, he made it, he sold it, now we pay for it.

You’re all having a bitch fit just because someone wants to get paid for something they did. Grow up kids.

….doesn’t even need a comment, does it…

You’re all talking like you have a “right” to steal movies for nothing, and for someone to get upset that you stole their work is “whining.”

Are you so removed from reality? It might not be that many people who downloaded the movie would have seen it anyway, but if only 1 in 100 did then that still represents a loss of a revenue and when you make films it is about the bottom line. Just because a film is profitable, it doesn’t mean that the sequel will be. Sequels in Hollywoord tend to follow the law of diminishing returns, so you need a very successful first movie in order for the studio to sign off on the second.

This guy wants to make another movie and get paid for it, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. He also wants people to pay for the entertainment products they consume. Again, there is nothing wrong with that.

For all the advocacy of file sharing being about rights and a different philosophy you guys come off as a bunch of clueless pricks who take things just because they can and then think they’re entitled.

I hope you all get kicked in the teeth pretty soon.

Get off your asses and do a better job or shut the hell up!

yeah right, is this guy 5? “since i cant have more money, i wont make any at all” as he sticks his tounge out and puts his thumbs in his ears. thatll show them. while your at it how bout trying to get rid of all the porn on the internet. and if u got time fix global warming.

If these industried want to be taken seriously then I propose this, not that they will read it but this is the internet, it will get spread about. So I propose, they make an agreement with everyone who has the ability to go to the movies, buy a dvd or cd, see a concert. If we don’t like it you take it back or gives us an equal amount refund plain and simple, in return you can shutdown the P2P sites. I think it would be a fiar trade, a no questions ask refund policy, because let’s face it people, how many cd’s did you buy just to find that 1 out of 23 songs didn’t suck. The movie was total crap or some punk talked through it or the douche bag 2 rows up answered his cell phone, I mean come on. Focus on fixing all the problems that exist with what had been in place long before “Piracy”. How would he feel if, out of his profits, the production company had to pay back every bit of money to the people who didn’t like the film, if you have to only give money back to the ones that walk out, you know they didn’t like it for sure. Just saying, there are worse things/more important things to deal with than someone dling a movie. You want more money, here it is, fix the economy. Flame, rebute, troll, agree, what have you, I typed my piece.

Why is it I still go to the theater and watch movies I download or buy the DVD collections, or why do I go to concerts and buy CDs and other merchandise when I can just get it for free as you say? Why? Because I still support the arts and artists, but not the money grubbing corporate fat asses that try to make a criminal out of me, when they should be coming up with ways to capitalize on this emerging technology. If they spent as much time, effort, and money investing in ways to provide what the CUSTOMER actually wants, not what they THINK we want, they would make truckloads of money.

I have a family member who is currently fighting a battle over copyright of songs that she wrote. Is that right? No! Where is the justice in that? Do you get paid for work you did last year, or ten years ago, I think not. So why should they continue to filch money from me for something that was made 5, 10, 20, or 30 or more years ago? Does not make sense to me.

World’s a fucking lost cause.

So of course piracy is to blame, ’cause it couldn’t be the fact that a crappy cam at least showed something the trailer didn’t, something worth spending a theater fee on.

Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t exactly the newest Star Trek movie in IMAX format, but for the old and outdated common theater version, it was good enough, during a halloween month, when every horror flick is supposed to be kind of crappy retro, even the comedy versions of 80′s horror.

Also there are many more movies I have downloaded – but had I not downloaded I would never have paid money to watch, either because the movie was awful or simply because I did not have the spare cash to spend on a movie.

The problem is the big companies think that every download = a missed dvd sale.

Anyway I think neo.styles deserves that treatment, because he’s a troll. Make no mistake, it’s not because I disagree with him. Reasoned Mind, for instance, makes more thought-out posts and you can reason with him, he’s not as extreme.

I don’t know if they’re the same person and he does it intentionally with neo.styles or if he truly is that way. I don’t care. I care what they post, and neo.styles is by far the real “troll”.

Hope you get what I meant.

I’m right with you there.

Going to cinemas to see a film is mostly an over expensive let down by idiotsa with their cell-phones lighting up(even if they are on silent mode) every 10 seconds ; it’s just not worth the hassle. A truly depressing experience

ZOMBIELAND

Domestic Total as of Nov. 9, 2009: $73,616,066
Distributor: Sony / Columbia Release Date: October 2, 2009
Production Budget: $23.6 million

TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $73,616,066 88.0%
+ Foreign: $10,030,214 12.0%
= Worldwide: $83,646,280

Yep! they’re hurting for money real bad.

And – absolutely! 1 million downloads is a significant percentage of un-earned revenue to get their panties in a bunch over.

Never saw the movie – wasn’t high on my list to see – might check it out sometime – but either way – they’ll never gett a full ticket price out of me for seeing it.

Which there is something that doesn’t make sense. Months later – I can rent [blockbuster] or download [via Netflix/ iTunes] for $4 or pennies and the movie-makers never earn a full amount on the viewing price.

Why don’t they take that into account when they are bitching about hteir lost revenue?

Before “the download” era – most of the movies I saw would be on video well after the theater release was over. Or if I went – I’d use a student ID and get a significant discount anyway. I have rarely if ever paid full price for a theater ticket in the first place. And I have lived in 2 college towns over the past 25 years and I gaurantee most of the population[s] 500,000+ people most likely used their discount also.

Lost revenue – lost revenue!! Absolutely – don’t put out a sequel to Zombieland.

It wasn’t one of those movies that struck me watching the trailer – “Wow – I really need to see that movie in the theaters on the big screen!”

Iron Man and Star Trek I saw in the theaters. I will see their sequels in the theaters as well.

Zombieland – not so much.

I suspect there are at least a million people out there who agree with me.

Considering that the truth seems to be that there is a net PROFIT on this film, this is obviously yet another trolling attempt by the industry to discredit the power of BT.
Lies, tweets and videotape, ey?

Posers.