I’ve explained the fallacy of applying the Streisand Effect to the individual level before, but I’ll explain it again. The Streisand Effect works on populations. It states that a population is more likely to view the That does not remove culpability from the individuals in the population. You are, as I’m sure you’re aware, an individual.

It’s like a woman saying that the overall increase in divorce rates is to blame for her getting a divorce, when the reason actually had to do with the fact that she beat and cheated on her husband, and he got fed up with it. She cited a related population-level phonemonon, and used that as a way to avoid the implications of her personal level decisions.

“I’m sure you understood what I meant but were trying to be a pedantic prick!”

Here’s what you said.

“it is all her fault if I look! ”

Note the words “all here fault”. In your own words, she holds all of the guilt for your decision, and you hold none. That’s what you “meant”.

This is blaming the victim logic. Blaming the victim logic is when you say that because the victim could have conceivably done something different, the perpetrator has no guilt. Examples include “that guy had a political bumper sticker that infuriated me, so it’s his fault that I keyed his car” “the woman wore skimpy clothing that aroused me, so it’s understandable that the man raped her” and “she made a fuss about the pictures, so it’s her fault that I sought them out”. It doesn’t mean that the victim didn’t make a bad decision; it’s referring to logic excusing a perpetrator from guilt.

“The simple fact is that torrents older than a couple of weeks usually disappear, this lawsuit has increased the number of peers on that torrent and kept it alive. ”

I’m sorry, but are you referring to anything I’ve said?

Do you think I’m saying that she didn’t make a bad decision? Do you think I’m saying that this lawsuit was a good move on her part if she wanted to Quote me. Find the quote where I said I think she made a good choice, and post it here. You can’t do it, because you aren’t arguing against what I’ve said, you’re arguing against a scapegoat. No one here has said she made a good decision. It’s obvious to everyone that her actions weren’t You’re still the one who choose to view the photos, and you’re using curiosity as a justification for invading someone else’s privacy.

“her fault that I want to see them ”

You know what, I’ve actually found out whose fault this really is. It’s you mother’s fault (before you jump, this isn’t a mom insult. It’s a bit more complex than that). She gave birth to you, which led you to be alive when this happened, so you could look at the photos. It’s all her fault. Actually, we can go even further back than that. It’s all due to the Big Bang. If it hadn’t created matter, then you couldn’t have viewed the photos. The boundary conditions of the universe are to blame.

This example is meant to demonstrate your fallacy; you’re placing blame on the actions of someone in the past, actions that had NO active effect on you when you, AND YOU ALONE, made that choice to look at the photos. You did so without any requirement to do so, and therefore, you shoulder the vast majority of the blame for your own decision. The woman shoulders the blame for the internet seeing the photos. You hold blame for you seeing the photos.

To reiterate, you act as if because she’s responsible for the internet sseeing the photos, and therefore for you learning about the photos, she’s also responsible for you going to look at the photos. You’re confusing the notions of cause-effect and personally responsibility. In a cause-effect sense, yes

To explain the difference, let’s use the example of torrent sites. Without Utorrent, I would probably never download any of the stuff I currently do. Knowing that, we can say that Utorrent has a cause-effect relationship with me downloading the infringing content. However, by the logic you’ve presented, they hold the fault for my downloading, because I wouldn’t have done it without them, and I have no fault because I couldn’t have done it without them.

We know that to be false; torrent clients hold no responsibility for the actions of the individual, so why does this woman hold responsibility for the actions of the individual?

Please answer that last example in your next post. I think if you examine it, you’ll see the fallacy in how you’ve been arguing, and you’ll see what I’m getting it.

Knowing all this, can you agree that you shoulder most, not all, but most of the blame for you seeing the photos? We can debate about whether there’s anything wrong with you seeing a woman naked against her will later (that sounded more loaded than I intended for it to), but can you admit the majority of responsibility for your decision? No one is saying it makes you a bad person, no matter what your reason. That’s for you to decide for yourself. Just take full responsibility for what you’ve done.

And remember the golden rule; if you’re resorting to the “troll” argument against someone writing long detailed posts, you’re probably missing the point somewhere.

im seeding the pics like a champ!!

You seem to be like every troll on here. Take something someone says and twist it and blow it out of proportion. I’m sure you understood what I meant but were trying to be a pedantic prick!

Of course it is my decision to view the photos (I know its hard for you to understand common sense) but it is her fault that I want to see them (that was my point you moron). Therefore if I saw them it would be her fault, I do not use or search for porn and if she hadn’t started a silly lawsuit against the community I wouldn’t even know the photos exist (see Streisand Effect quoted many times above).

The simple fact is that torrents older than a couple of weeks usually disappear, this lawsuit has increased the number of peers on that torrent and kept it alive. Therefore its directly her fault that the files are still online (please re-read the Streisand Effect quoted). You can never stuff the genie back in the bottle, you are better just moving on with you life!

“I am responsible for my own actions” “Therefore it is all her fault if I look!”

Funny how that second line contradicts the first one. You are abdicating all personal responsibility, and saying that she is at fault for her actions. Correct me if I’m wrong, but “looking” counts as your “own actions”. So, how can you be responsible for your own actions if she’s responsible for your actions? It seems like a contradiction there.

Let’s apply your logic to other situations.

“That man cut me off on the highway, so it’s his fault I shot out his windows”.

“That woman looked sexy, so it’s her fault I peeped at her changing”.

Do you see how in those examples, the speaker is using the traits or actions of others to remove his own responsibility; that’s what you’re doing. You’re essentially arguing that because she provided some stimulus, you can’t be held responsible for what you do. That argument is bullshit. I’d like to tell you that you’re on the right track, but simply misguided, but you’re not. You’re using someone else’s actions to hide responsibility for your own.

Do you have no ability to control your actions? Do you have no self-control? Did she force you to look at the photos? Did she hold the metaphorical gun to your head, and take away your choice? ……. No, she didn’t. You were not forced to do this?

She is responsible for the internet viewing the video. You, as an individual, are not “the internet”. You are an individual who is responsible for his own actions, and that means you are responsible for viewing the photos. Yes, she gave you the stimulus of making you want to see them. No, she didn’t force you to see them. So, yes, it’s on you, not her, if you chose to seek them out.

There is another possibilty to this; you could just be a brainless simpleton, who is unable to control his actions, and acts on any stimulus he recieves. That’s essentially what you’ve been implying you are. I choose not to believe you. I think you’re better than that, and that you actually have a will of your own. If you are as hopeless as you imply in your posts, then I apologize for taxing your limited resources. If you aren’t that hopeless, then I’m not sorry for asking you to actually examine your own morality.