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	<title>Comments on: BitTorrent to be Pimped by Nobel Prize Winning Theory</title>
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		<title>By: mikecaulfield.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent: An Educational Autopsy of the Hydra</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-443793</link>
		<dc:creator>mikecaulfield.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent: An Educational Autopsy of the Hydra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year, to see if it can&#8217;t be useful to motivate people to share. Here&#8217;s a bit more from this TorrentFreak post on the subject: A lot of people probably wonder how an economical theory can improve the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] year, to see if it can&#8217;t be useful to motivate people to share. Here&#8217;s a bit more from this TorrentFreak post on the subject: A lot of people probably wonder how an economical theory can improve the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steveking</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-362571</link>
		<dc:creator>steveking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouTubeRobot.com today announces YouTube Robot 2.0, a tool that enables you to download video from YouTube.com onto your PC, convert it to various formats to watch it when you are on the road on mobile devices like mobile phone, iPod, iPhone, Pocket PC, PSP, or Zune.

YouTube Robot allows you to search for videos using keywords or browse video by category, author, channel, language, tags, etc. When you find something noteworthy, you can preview the video right in YouTube Robot and then download it onto the hard disk drive. The speed, at which you will be downloading, is very high: up to 5 times faster than other software when you download a single file and up to 4 times faster when you download multiple files at a time.

Manual download is not the only option with YouTube Robot. You may as well schedule the download and conversion tasks to be executed automatically, even when you are not around. Downloading is followed by conversion to the format of your choice and uploading videos to a mobile device (if needed). For example, you can plug in iPod, select the video, go to bed, and when you wake up next morning, your iPod will be ready to play new YouTube videos.

Product page: 3w.youtuberobot.com
Direct download link: 3w.youtuberobot.com/download/utuberobot.exe
Company web-site: 3w.youtuberobot.com
E-mail: support@youtuberobot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouTubeRobot.com today announces YouTube Robot 2.0, a tool that enables you to download video from YouTube.com onto your PC, convert it to various formats to watch it when you are on the road on mobile devices like mobile phone, iPod, iPhone, Pocket PC, PSP, or Zune.</p>
<p>YouTube Robot allows you to search for videos using keywords or browse video by category, author, channel, language, tags, etc. When you find something noteworthy, you can preview the video right in YouTube Robot and then download it onto the hard disk drive. The speed, at which you will be downloading, is very high: up to 5 times faster than other software when you download a single file and up to 4 times faster when you download multiple files at a time.</p>
<p>Manual download is not the only option with YouTube Robot. You may as well schedule the download and conversion tasks to be executed automatically, even when you are not around. Downloading is followed by conversion to the format of your choice and uploading videos to a mobile device (if needed). For example, you can plug in iPod, select the video, go to bed, and when you wake up next morning, your iPod will be ready to play new YouTube videos.</p>
<p>Product page: 3w.youtuberobot.com<br />
Direct download link: 3w.youtuberobot.com/download/utuberobot.exe<br />
Company web-site: 3w.youtuberobot.com<br />
E-mail: <a href="mailto:support@youtuberobot.com">support@youtuberobot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: music theory</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-301565</link>
		<dc:creator>music theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;music theory...&lt;/strong&gt;

I really like your posts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>music theory&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I really like your posts&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: reurigoobby</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-241818</link>
		<dc:creator>reurigoobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</p>
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		<title>By: reurigoobby</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-234915</link>
		<dc:creator>reurigoobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-204103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another interesting development: http://www.turtle4privacy.org/new/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another interesting development: <a href="http://www.turtle4privacy.org/new/" rel="nofollow">http://www.turtle4privacy.org/new/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hedonist</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-193535</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedonist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks this will create more problems than it solves. As i understand it, it keeps the rarer torrents alive despite there being no/low no. of seeders. How exactly? The only way to do it would be to spread bits of the torrent across the network of bittorent users, even if the users are not aware of the file. In that case, each torrent being shared by you will also be treated the same. The problem is, and it is a big one: what will happen if the RIAA or other such organizations file suit against you. You are damned even if you are truly unaware of the fact. But the truly horrible fact is that in such a scenario, a mass trojan or virus can propagate instantly across millions of computers and crash the internet. Denial of service anyone, fake torrents by Media Defender anyone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks this will create more problems than it solves. As i understand it, it keeps the rarer torrents alive despite there being no/low no. of seeders. How exactly? The only way to do it would be to spread bits of the torrent across the network of bittorent users, even if the users are not aware of the file. In that case, each torrent being shared by you will also be treated the same. The problem is, and it is a big one: what will happen if the RIAA or other such organizations file suit against you. You are damned even if you are truly unaware of the fact. But the truly horrible fact is that in such a scenario, a mass trojan or virus can propagate instantly across millions of computers and crash the internet. Denial of service anyone, fake torrents by Media Defender anyone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mlz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobel prize for that crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobel prize for that crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobel Prize theory helps BitTorrent &#124; LOL People .ORG</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-192618</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobel Prize theory helps BitTorrent &#124; LOL People .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] content in the network. How this economic theory works in practice, the prof didnt tell in his interview, but you can find out more about the basics of Tribler here and here. The algorithms implemented [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] content in the network. How this economic theory works in practice, the prof didnt tell in his interview, but you can find out more about the basics of Tribler here and here. The algorithms implemented [...]</p>
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		<title>By: h33t</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-191945</link>
		<dc:creator>h33t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get it right. there is no Nobel prize for economics

the prize is awarded by the &quot;Swedish Bank prize in Memory of Alfred Nobel&quot;

mechanism design is no more a discovery than your mother telling you to go to school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get it right. there is no Nobel prize for economics</p>
<p>the prize is awarded by the &#8220;Swedish Bank prize in Memory of Alfred Nobel&#8221;</p>
<p>mechanism design is no more a discovery than your mother telling you to go to school</p>
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		<title>By: Syntactically Correct - Amit Schreiber&#8217;s Blog / Today&#8217;s link-a-palooza</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-191578</link>
		<dc:creator>Syntactically Correct - Amit Schreiber&#8217;s Blog / Today&#8217;s link-a-palooza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BitTorrent to be pimped by Nobel prize winning economical theory [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BitTorrent to be pimped by Nobel prize winning economical theory [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SantaBJ</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-191491</link>
		<dc:creator>SantaBJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cautiously optimistic; any proposed &quot;advancement&quot; of the base BT mechanisms will be a hard sell, considering the already existing level of robustness and efficiency in the system. A form of universal reputation system would likely work really well, however the implications for anonymity makes it all very dodgy for most users...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cautiously optimistic; any proposed &#8220;advancement&#8221; of the base BT mechanisms will be a hard sell, considering the already existing level of robustness and efficiency in the system. A form of universal reputation system would likely work really well, however the implications for anonymity makes it all very dodgy for most users&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nobel Theory, File Sharing and Social Networking &#124; AspiringEconomist.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-191433</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobel Theory, File Sharing and Social Networking &#124; AspiringEconomist.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Freak reports that researchers at Harvard are using mechanism design theory to create an improved BitTorent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Freak reports that researchers at Harvard are using mechanism design theory to create an improved BitTorent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dgdge</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190754</link>
		<dc:creator>dgdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wtf? So I have to upload to download? That sucks, I can only upload @ 30kb/s tops, or else my network crashes.

Damn them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wtf? So I have to upload to download? That sucks, I can only upload @ 30kb/s tops, or else my network crashes.</p>
<p>Damn them.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah you wish</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190587</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeah you wish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys Bram is a genius...

Not going to work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys Bram is a genius&#8230;</p>
<p>Not going to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Free-dome</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190449</link>
		<dc:creator>Free-dome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah let&#039;s kick RIAA/MPAA in the balls!


IN THE BALLS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah let&#8217;s kick RIAA/MPAA in the balls!</p>
<p>IN THE BALLS!</p>
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		<title>By: herman_m</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190434</link>
		<dc:creator>herman_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I frequent an Internet cafe where the number of minutes you get for each euro depends on how busy the cafe is. So, during prime time, I only get 30 minutes for 1 euro, but 1.5 hours for 1 euro during slow times.

In this way, some torrents will be more &quot;valuable&quot; than others. You can 400 seeders for 5 leechers, but may some of those seeders will be encouraged to seed other torrents if they got more &quot;credit&quot; for it. Those other torrents would be ones with few seeders or is a &quot;torrent&quot; being streamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I frequent an Internet cafe where the number of minutes you get for each euro depends on how busy the cafe is. So, during prime time, I only get 30 minutes for 1 euro, but 1.5 hours for 1 euro during slow times.</p>
<p>In this way, some torrents will be more &#8220;valuable&#8221; than others. You can 400 seeders for 5 leechers, but may some of those seeders will be encouraged to seed other torrents if they got more &#8220;credit&#8221; for it. Those other torrents would be ones with few seeders or is a &#8220;torrent&#8221; being streamed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Prophet</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190392</link>
		<dc:creator>The Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and this is a &quot;big&quot; step how?

and to

Archie Lee Tullos
i hope that was a joke.

lets give the riaa and mpaa our home address yay! 
lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this is a &#8220;big&#8221; step how?</p>
<p>and to</p>
<p>Archie Lee Tullos<br />
i hope that was a joke.</p>
<p>lets give the riaa and mpaa our home address yay!<br />
lol</p>
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		<title>By: burris</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190277</link>
		<dc:creator>burris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A lot of people probably wonder how an economical theory can improve the performance of a BitTorrent client, Pouwelse explains&quot;

The only people who would wonder this are the people that don&#039;t know much about BitTorrent.  Maybe they should read Bram&#039;s paper _Incentives Improve Robustness In BitTorrent_ published at the _Economics of P2P_ conference.  Then again, maybe tit for tat has no economic significance.  Not! 

The researchers should take another look. BT is clearly iterated prisoners dilemma.  There are long term relationships with the peers you are connected to.  If a defecting peer begins cooperating, then you&#039;ll stop defecting and begin cooperating with them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A lot of people probably wonder how an economical theory can improve the performance of a BitTorrent client, Pouwelse explains&#8221;</p>
<p>The only people who would wonder this are the people that don&#8217;t know much about BitTorrent.  Maybe they should read Bram&#8217;s paper _Incentives Improve Robustness In BitTorrent_ published at the _Economics of P2P_ conference.  Then again, maybe tit for tat has no economic significance.  Not! </p>
<p>The researchers should take another look. BT is clearly iterated prisoners dilemma.  There are long term relationships with the peers you are connected to.  If a defecting peer begins cooperating, then you&#8217;ll stop defecting and begin cooperating with them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie Lee Tullos</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190230</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie Lee Tullos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m having trouble with the new limewire PRO application,I&#039;m down load it and when i  try to receive connection there is a long wait. my e-mail is love61@charter.net--I need some good information to continual this prosess.address is 2424 bancroft street Saginaw michigan 48601-1514.the down load process went fine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m having trouble with the new limewire PRO application,I&#8217;m down load it and when i  try to receive connection there is a long wait. my e-mail is <a href="mailto:love61@charter.net">love61@charter.net</a>&#8211;I need some good information to continual this prosess.address is 2424 bancroft street Saginaw michigan 48601-1514.the down load process went fine</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. J.A. Pouwelse</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190221</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. J.A. Pouwelse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: &quot;The 8472&quot;
Indeed Bittorrent is far more complicated then can be explained in a single-line-quote.

As proven by BitThief and BitTyrant the floating measures and newcomer strategy can be cheated.

Trust metics are a complicated field and collusion attacks are on the top of our research agenda. We specifically address the incentives for seeding. Details:
https://www.tribler.org/Give-To-Get
https://www.tribler.org/BarterCast

Johan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: &#8220;The 8472&#8243;<br />
Indeed Bittorrent is far more complicated then can be explained in a single-line-quote.</p>
<p>As proven by BitThief and BitTyrant the floating measures and newcomer strategy can be cheated.</p>
<p>Trust metics are a complicated field and collusion attacks are on the top of our research agenda. We specifically address the incentives for seeding. Details:<br />
<a href="https://www.tribler.org/Give-To-Get" rel="nofollow">https://www.tribler.org/Give-To-Get</a><br />
<a href="https://www.tribler.org/BarterCast" rel="nofollow">https://www.tribler.org/BarterCast</a></p>
<p>Johan.</p>
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		<title>By: The 8472</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190198</link>
		<dc:creator>The 8472</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and mechanism that does not degrade to a single shot prisoners dilemma, such as BitTorrent tit-fot-tat&quot;

This is a false statement, bittorrent does not use a hard tit-for-tat strategy as you see it in the prisoner &#039;s dilemma scenario. It actually uses floating measures and optimistic unchokes prevent the &quot;single shot&quot;-ness.

If they get even such basic facts wrong... well... the question is how good their final product will be. Another issue is that seeds have nothing to base trust on, thus they can be cheated even within a trust metric via collusion attacks, and seeds are exactly what you&#039;d have to fix to prevent leeching. peer-peer connections are already fairly leech-resistant, it&#039;s the seeds that provide &quot;free&quot; bandwidth w/o measures to ensure fair resource allocation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and mechanism that does not degrade to a single shot prisoners dilemma, such as BitTorrent tit-fot-tat&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a false statement, bittorrent does not use a hard tit-for-tat strategy as you see it in the prisoner &#8216;s dilemma scenario. It actually uses floating measures and optimistic unchokes prevent the &#8220;single shot&#8221;-ness.</p>
<p>If they get even such basic facts wrong&#8230; well&#8230; the question is how good their final product will be. Another issue is that seeds have nothing to base trust on, thus they can be cheated even within a trust metric via collusion attacks, and seeds are exactly what you&#8217;d have to fix to prevent leeching. peer-peer connections are already fairly leech-resistant, it&#8217;s the seeds that provide &#8220;free&#8221; bandwidth w/o measures to ensure fair resource allocation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ink</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Err this is not a good thing it is bad, bad Ernesto!!

Don&#039;t make it sound like this is the revolution we&#039;ve all been waiting for. I use my client for pirating so it&#039;s no very good for me if someone tries to make me identifiable whatever I do... but well whatever floats your boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err this is not a good thing it is bad, bad Ernesto!!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make it sound like this is the revolution we&#8217;ve all been waiting for. I use my client for pirating so it&#8217;s no very good for me if someone tries to make me identifiable whatever I do&#8230; but well whatever floats your boat.</p>
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		<title>By: meneame.net</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190154</link>
		<dc:creator>meneame.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CÃ³mo aplicar el Nobel de Economia para mejorar BitTorrent (EN)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Por increÃ­ble que parezca, el premio Nobel de EconomÃ­a de este aÃ±o tiene mÃ¡s que ver con este protocolo de transferencias P2P de lo que pensamos. De hecho, podrÃ­a mejorar su comportamiento de forma crÃ­tica, superando la metodologÃ­a actual de ens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CÃ³mo aplicar el Nobel de Economia para mejorar BitTorrent (EN)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Por increÃ­ble que parezca, el premio Nobel de EconomÃ­a de este aÃ±o tiene mÃ¡s que ver con este protocolo de transferencias P2P de lo que pensamos. De hecho, podrÃ­a mejorar su comportamiento de forma crÃ­tica, superando la metodologÃ­a actual de ens&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: system</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190142</link>
		<dc:creator>system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One major problem with long term reputation &quot;memory&quot;. 4 things uniquely identify a peer, IP, port, peer_id and info_hash. On most modern clients, at least the last 3 will change each time the client is started with a new torrent. With dynamic IP allocation, the first will change with each reconnect.

Unlike a tracker, the Harvard boys cannot use passkeys or compare the IP to the currently logged in user. They cannot say that the info they have stored for a peer actually belongs to that peer, or that a lack of info means the peer has never been seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One major problem with long term reputation &#8220;memory&#8221;. 4 things uniquely identify a peer, IP, port, peer_id and info_hash. On most modern clients, at least the last 3 will change each time the client is started with a new torrent. With dynamic IP allocation, the first will change with each reconnect.</p>
<p>Unlike a tracker, the Harvard boys cannot use passkeys or compare the IP to the currently logged in user. They cannot say that the info they have stored for a peer actually belongs to that peer, or that a lack of info means the peer has never been seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Santa</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190112</link>
		<dc:creator>Santa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for it. 

Ratio measurement is very nice, but there is not much incentive for peers to get it higher than 1.0 other than &quot;the bigger your ratio is, the kinder you are&quot;.

Where this really matters is on lower popularity torrents with only a few seeders. Several times I have had to leave a client open for a day waiting for a seeder. These torrents  matter too - otherwise bittorrent wil only be good for the latest blockbusters and platinum albums.

It would also help on newly released torrents. With more people seeding above and beyond 1.0 at the begining, the torrent can flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for it. </p>
<p>Ratio measurement is very nice, but there is not much incentive for peers to get it higher than 1.0 other than &#8220;the bigger your ratio is, the kinder you are&#8221;.</p>
<p>Where this really matters is on lower popularity torrents with only a few seeders. Several times I have had to leave a client open for a day waiting for a seeder. These torrents  matter too &#8211; otherwise bittorrent wil only be good for the latest blockbusters and platinum albums.</p>
<p>It would also help on newly released torrents. With more people seeding above and beyond 1.0 at the begining, the torrent can flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Starwhite</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-190060</link>
		<dc:creator>Starwhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a boring story..I have no comment really....zzzzzz</description>
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		<title>By: Daksund</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189995</link>
		<dc:creator>Daksund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a mechanism that does not degrade to a single shot prisoners dilemma&quot; is, practically by definition, an economic-science way of saying &quot;a system that stops hit and runners&quot;

Economics, more so than many sciences, is exactly about how stuff works - which is why you can explain and define things like chemical bonding and natural selection with entirely economic terms. It&#039;s abstract, but there are mathematical grounds for everything they do - if the guy&#039;s equation (note: not the guy himself) says their mechanism should prevent unwanted behaviours, then it should go quite a long way towards it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a mechanism that does not degrade to a single shot prisoners dilemma&#8221; is, practically by definition, an economic-science way of saying &#8220;a system that stops hit and runners&#8221;</p>
<p>Economics, more so than many sciences, is exactly about how stuff works &#8211; which is why you can explain and define things like chemical bonding and natural selection with entirely economic terms. It&#8217;s abstract, but there are mathematical grounds for everything they do &#8211; if the guy&#8217;s equation (note: not the guy himself) says their mechanism should prevent unwanted behaviours, then it should go quite a long way towards it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189946</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why not, Section8? Ratio requirements stop them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why not, Section8? Ratio requirements stop them.</p>
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		<title>By: Section8</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189940</link>
		<dc:creator>Section8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Reputation system will stop hit n runners</description>
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		<title>By: Gredd</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189925</link>
		<dc:creator>Gredd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The client was uploaded 7 days ago and its optimized for PowerPC? WTF? lol 

&quot;For Mac (PowerPC, should work on Intel as well)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The client was uploaded 7 days ago and its optimized for PowerPC? WTF? lol </p>
<p>&#8220;For Mac (PowerPC, should work on Intel as well)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189898</link>
		<dc:creator>Sounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good faster downloads is a must in my books</description>
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		<title>By: BitTorrent to be Pimped by Nobel Prize Winning Theory &#124; TorrentPimp</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189864</link>
		<dc:creator>BitTorrent to be Pimped by Nobel Prize Winning Theory &#124; TorrentPimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ultimate goal is to keep people sharing as much as possible without imposing share ratio sanctions.read more &#124; digg story  addthis_url = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ultimate goal is to keep people sharing as much as possible without imposing share ratio sanctions.read more | digg story  addthis_url = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-to-be-pimped-by-nobel-prize-071019/#comment-189826</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope this time we can get by without people screaming that the Harvard team were *demanding* money instead of simulating it in their system!</description>
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