United We Stand, Divided We Fall

Solicitors, the legal system all blow: money talks: poverty is a good shield, use it wisely

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Simplest of terms, the RIAA/MPAA have no case against you UNLESS you are caught red-handed uploading pirate content to them, or you physically have the stuff on flash or optical media.

When it comes to bittorrent, all they have is logs. Logs of IP addresses. All they can prove is you were present in the swarm. They can even go so far as to say you downloaded this and uploaded that, in megs.

This doesn’t mean you are a pirate, downloading 99% of a copyrighted file, but not completing it, is hardly a crime.

Same with sharing bits of it, you haven’t made it ‘available’ and you have provided 0 people with it, and you have stolen NOTHING.

This is why they want you to settle, they don’t go after smart people. I was getting letters in record numbers via IRC back in the day. @ things covered my ass.

1, they were sent from, and pertaining to, US laws.

2, I’m an IT guy by trade, and know they had nothing substantial on me.

Educate yourself, and take it to court, you WILL win, if you are willing to take the time, effort, and spend the $$$$.

I’ll be defending myself.

Whats the point giving percentages if youve blatantly made them up. If a statistic begins with “its thought” then there no point including it.

Other than that, nice article.

Wise up! Why are you wasting your time even talking to these scumbags? Just toss the damn letter in the round file and move on. Don’t pay these thugs a penny.

And could we please get some actual names of Davenport-Lyons staff who are sending these threats out?

Some of us would prefer to give them the opportunity to repeat their threats face-to-face if you know what I mean. Like in the parking lot outside their office. :P

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Davenport Lyons or Logistep are not the rights holder and as such communictions from them should be accompanied by a written notification from the rights owner that they act on their behalf, if you do not receive such a notification then you have the legal right to have the case thrown out as only the rights holder can claim damages.

The european union has a data registrar, they have declared logisteps activities unlawful, in short they have been obtaining personal information without legal authority, this is a criminal offence in most member states and if you receive a demand for payment
its quite likely you can have those who claim to have gathered information on you illegally arrested or at the worst go to a lawyer to ensure a restraining order is granted for such continuing illegal activity.

Take the battle to them for their crimes, or be a victim, your choice.

What’s most frustrating is that Codemasters or Davenport Lyons are ignoring all the facts that I am sending them.

Nor is assault murder, harassment rape, or speeding burglary.

It’s was a very clever trick on the part of the MPAA etc to manage to get the hugely inaccurate term ‘theft’ used for copyright infringement, much more emotive. And they then get to run ads saying ‘you wouldn’t steal a car, you wouldn’t steal a handbag’ instead of saying ‘you wouldn’t make a perfect replica of a car you might never have bought
at absolutely zero cost to yourself without in any way altering the original’. Wouldn’t really have worked would it. Accuracy hurts them.

You guys can flame all you want, I really don’t care. But the attitude that you have a right to take other people’s intellectual property is baffling.

There’s no reason to act like you’re better than them — you’re not. You’re exactly the same scum, but you don’t have the balls to stop lying to yourself.

The system that was built to protect you will destroy you because you have chosen to betray being honest with your own self.

I’m someone who received a letter from Davenport Lyons, so he can add me to his number of people not paying.

Just get a decent isp or read up concerning anonymity in the internet.

JT
http://www.FireMe.To/udi

They may be getting a list of IP
addresses from a given torrent
tracker, then assuming anyone who is
on there is uploading their client’s
game, even though they may be using
the tracker to download something else
that may be legal.

In some ways this seems to echo the
U of Washington study that got letters sent to printers.

They can talk the talk, but lets see if they can walk the walk.

Well sir, LET THEM GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND SEE IF ANYONE MISSES THEM!
Honestly, I could do without the self-important entertainment industry in the rest of my life on this planet. I could not care less if they would die a slow death of not getting paid anymore. Let’s see how much they care for creating their art!

I’ve done it all for free, all my life, and never made a dime with it, never even asked for it. You never heard me complain. Making music, software, movies, audio, video is FUN. It’s enjoyable. It’s not real work. Real work is milking a goat, changing a diper, working in a coal-mine, driving a subway, stuff like that.

1. Harvest thousands of IP addresses from a tracker serving a copyrighted torrent.

2. Send threatening ‘legal-looking’ letters to the IP-address-owners via their ISP. Claim to be the copyright holder and tell them they’ll be sued for everything they own if they don’t pay up immediately.

3. Sit back and watch the money stream in.

Just like any kind of spamming, if you only hook a tiny fraction of the people, you can still make out like a bandit.

Maybe the Nigerians should abandon the worn-out “419 scam” and start using this one. Fear can be a much bigger motivator than greed.

All these people, us, would never have bought that software, music, movies to begin with. Simply because we don’t have the money for it.
The *only* real reason these people are being sent letters is because current day technology allowed them to be entertained for a lot less, by having a PC and an internet connection.

I.e. they should not send these letters to the people, but to all those hardware and systems manufacturers and maybe even internet service providers for making this posisble.
In short: It’s a waste of time.

Perhaps they know, that many of the people can’t pay, or won’t, but they hope that getting a threatening letter would make the pirate stop downloading/uploading.

They probably just don’t think it’s worth taking peoples money, and instead they try to scare them away from pirating. Which is better than taking their money, or at least I think so.