Comments on: BPI and Virgin Media Agree to Start Warning Uploaders

By: montez

montez — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:10:24 +0000

been with virgin media fir 3yrs now!!
Well let me tell you VM suck my donkey balls all ready rang up and cancalled.
have fun trying to keep your customer base dik heads!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:12:50 +0000

cya virgin i have a ASDL line so bye bye, hope you burn and die.

bit of a stupid idea i mean your advertising Optic Fibre whats the point of TRUE 16mb internet if you cant use P2P, which i think the bbc iplayer use’s. with ADSL i can still download Ubuntu ISO’s

FUCK U VIRGIN

By: Mr magoo

Mr magoo — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:55:08 +0000

VM thoughtfully provide their own binary newsgroups at no extra cost – get your illegal downloads straight from VM’s servers and avoid the BPI.

By: Sonic x Boom

Sonic x Boom — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:54:06 +0000

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By: Trances

Trances — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:42:16 +0000

I only donw load movies and TV am i currently at risk ?

By: surfer666

surfer666 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:30:14 +0000

Interesting comments,

I would honestly say that VM are not that bad! (shoot me now if you please).

Like most ISP’s problems do occur.

The whole P2P and copyright issue is complex. Personally I do download, but only to see if I like the movie etc, then either buy or not. I guess its a bit like trialing before you buy.

I really do not see though how they can track your IP address if you play a bit clever, for example some firewalls will hide the last octet of your IP address, therfore you cannot be traced. Also there is other programs available such as peer guardian though I am not overly familiar with it.

An interesting situation would be for a court summons for downloading a movie .. what if you then went out and bought it …… I dont see how the average downloader could be brought to book as a backup is quite legal, there is of course also the point that your orginal and paid copy could be damaged. The actual physical DVD might be unplayable but you as the customer still own a right to watch and keep the movie for personal use .. so would it be illigal to then download ….?

In my opinion this is a minefield that simply cannot be managed, it is time for reform in both the law and of course how services and products are distributed!

By: usualsuspect

usualsuspect — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:59:18 +0000

funny how these company’s think they can stop all p2p sharing when country’s that are not within there realm of governing cant be charged with a crime. i mean there is no U.N. front on the crimes of piracy and if there is and im just not informed, they should serously think of something better to spend are money on then this shit. I.E. the price of fucking oil. i just spent 48 dollars on 11 gal. that didnt even fill my truck

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:48:26 +0000

i’ve had one of the warning letters for downloads and now i’m thinking of dropping virgin, don’t want the bpi on my case.

By: Vuze

Vuze — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:28:50 +0000

Is there anyway to make Vuze safe to use against VM?

I need to get my Lost fix ;- >

Or anyone point me to a guide to use encryption and not let them track me?

Ta!

By: delboy

delboy — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:13:48 +0000

vm are tossers

By: Progeny

Progeny — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:15:28 +0000

Virgin really do want to lose customers, I’m already fed up with them for capping me for downloading 6 gig in a week(i’m on unlimited),so they said. These fools lowered my speed to 64kbps for a whole week! without even a warning,i couldn’t use my net for jack shit at that speed,it was like going back to the stone age! now they have come up with this bright idea, I’v go 5 months left & i’m out of there! i’ve been looking around for a good isp & see that O2 have some good reviews, So virgin can kiss my ass.

By: Mr S

Mr S — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:16:03 +0000

PS going back to this again, why are VM and BPI and everyone else not focused on shutting down child porn sites or targeting these users traffic!

What about all the stupid radical suicide bombers too.!!!

Oh yeah PHORM makes you cash stopping child porn and terrorism does not!

VM taking a running jump!

By: Mr S

Mr S — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:29:07 +0000

[Quote] This is particularly worrying for legitimate users as there are oh so many people using CLONED modems (possibly 100s of 1000s, judging by forum activity). When using a cloned modem the mac of a registered user from another area is duplicated which means the IP will be traced to the registered user of the original subscribed modem. This would mean that innocent users would have the near impossible task of explaining that they are innocent when getting one of these letters. This probably happenned in the Davenport Lyons case when customers had no knowledge of downloading games were none the less falsely accused.

Virgin Media know of this problem and should sort it out before doing this (mind you it gives a good defence). TF ought to look into this , I am surprised this issue has not been raised before regarding court cases for unknowingly downloading involving Virgin Media customers.
Virgin Media [Quote]

The IP’s are different the MAC’s are the same but not the IP’s. if they had the same IP VM’s DNS servers wouldn’t know which PC to send the data too.

trust i know i flashed many modems!

I undersatnd your point but they could trace the fake IP on a cloned MAC but it would take to much time and monry for them to justify it!

Yeah VM are aware of the problem exactly like the tv theft but how long as that gone on for. i’ve had a dbox2 for 3 yrs!. I pay for 20mb tho so not a complete theft

By: smartarse

smartarse — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:07:23 +0000

Virgin might have been pressured into doing this,even so they are heading down the pan….how many customers do they think they will lose?

Naive? Why do they think people pay for a 20mb connection? Not to just browse the net, thats for sure.

I’m a virgin customer (until they go tits up), but i’ll keep using my encrypted newsgroup downloads thanks.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:15:06 +0000

Just switch to Be* 24mb only Â£18 pounds honestly it’s worth it i switched a while ago and it’s amazing

By: dave b

dave b — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:35:32 +0000

As much as i wouulike to ditch virgin i live miles away form an exchange and the best i can hope for is a 2mb line compared to my current 20mb. Will have to wait and see how it all pans out.

By: Phil

Phil — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:32:13 +0000

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7444390.stm

That’s a very article from the BBC on this very matter. I’m glad the journalist is on our side. As a virgin media customer I’m not at all happy. You’ll be happy to know this is part of a 10 week ‘education’ scheme, so I wouldn’t expect disconnections or law suits. Still, if this gets adopted by more ISP’s (which I doubt) then we’re going to have to move to new technologies.

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:58:51 +0000

Bye bye VM. Hello Be*.

By: lokishare

lokishare — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:15:58 +0000

Tooootaly cancelling my contract with virgin

By: ma11y1

ma11y1 — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:58:31 +0000

to the response of the “iso of linux software” i myself have an sftp and a ftp server with all linux iso cd and dvd images to aid and help have about 3 groups and me the network admin…we run mirrors and i have the vm line 20mbps+ i also have a vpn with tunelling to connect from work for certain tools with linux, ive just spoken to virgin about this BPI bollocks(sorry moderator) and cause i encrypt the traffic im asked them about anymore info they could give me? and there response?? they didnt have a clue????all they said was we dont do uploads? what crap is that? and said if i get a letter i will kick off! so im a little concerned about the “letter” and “disconection” it also has links to mirrors that are on bittorrent! if i get cut off from seeding “”"legal”"” yes virgin “”"legal”"” software to help and aid new users of software than i need a new m.a.c code or just go to a new isp provider! whatch this space!!!!.