And yeah, it’s been mentioned…FUCK.

The BBC here in the UK has live streams of 9 different TV channels – the only channel they don’t stream right now is BBC HD. They also have on-demand streaming of a large library of programmes. The ISPs have got quite upset with them because iPlayer takes up a very significant proportion of Internet bandwidth in the UK, costing them money.

It seems to me that for practical P2P streaming to gain support from ISPs, live or otherwise, the protocol needs to prioritise local transmission. Traffic that can go between peers connected to an ISP without having to go over the Internet effectively doesn’t cost ISPs anything.

The second point is that this really needs to be as simple as possible for users. Practically speaking that means the streaming client has to be a flash app. A naive user browsing to the BBC would have no patience to download client software, as has been proven by the initial version of iPlayer which required a custom P2P client. iPlayer only took off when it swapped to being Flash based.

Were the BBC to adopt such a thing it’d make all the UK ISPs much happier bunnies.

Really!?

You thieves are demented

I’m really glad to hear that Bram has decided to work on this.

Future generations will inherit something truly awesome.

‘It might be more accurate to say that Bram cohen revolutionized piracy. Never before has avoidance of payment and responsibility for your actions been so easy.’

Yup, just like saying Smith and Wesson, or Ford, revolutionized the way people got murdered, and then blame it on guns and cars.

I bet you think your logic is absolutely flawless.

Great that Bram Cohen pressures the ive streaming market. I’m looking forward what the result will be.

dont eztv have the tstream facility on some links?

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Tools/Print.aspx?BlogEntryID=118840

http://trial.p2p-next.org/

its the best site to get torrents :(

the owrlds ISPs will NEVER give you the ability to stop them filtering OFF the multicast protocols to and from your generic MC capable cable modem CPE kit sat on your desk so you NEED to bypass teir filtering by inserting all your multicast traffic inside a (preferably secure) tunnel….

lets see what he can do.

he created P2P, so i can expect something better ;)

TD – Your GateWay To The Scene.
http://www.TorrentDay.com

You neglect to mention that those using the bandwidth are paying for it and in most cases being defrauded by their ISP’s who fail to deliver what was mentioned in the contract that btw they themselves wrote the specifics of.

The terms “legal” and “illegal” may evoke emotion for you but they are infact merely indicators of how inarticulate those using the terms are when there are many countries that have their own shorter term implementations of the duration of copyright, many not recognising the current US obsession with copyright term extension that has been acheived through obvious political corruption.

Are those passing legislation with such a heavy commercial bias any less a criminal that someone who hasnt been paid off by the media corporations wish to partake in an audio or visual experience ?

This guy is genius..look what he has done post innovation of BT technology..look what he did with u-torrent, look what he has done with Spotify… he takes complicated technology, makes it user friendly and best of all..his apps are light and not a burden to users system !!

Best of Luck Bram..u r a GENIUS !!!

@32 is right
He is overrated, only because every noobs is using torrent to download without share anything.
The TFT algo is a failure: http://www.dcg.ethz.ch/projects/bitthief/

No seriously, since when was he the bittorrent CREATOR? I must have missed the memo. As long as we’re on the subject. I created piracy. You can thank me later. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

emule/kad does the same stuff, except the client is more complete, and does not require any tracker.

inventor is a far overrated word these days.

UTP – Unshielded Twisted Pair
UDP – User Datagram Protocol

…But I just read some more posts and would like to comment on them.

@1 and @2:

First AND second?! Epic success!

@United Hackers Association:

How about you download the stream, and after you’re done watching it, rip it and upload it as a file for the rest of us who’re ok with the non-live version.

If I understand this correctly would this be conducive to real-time live guerilla journalism, such as of stuff like the French anti-anti-p2p-law riots and mug-shot close-ups of police brutality? Would the confiscation of cameras matter less?

THERE is a reason they want you all streaming
its so they can charge and charge and charge and charge
and what?

YUP charge again

I promise that if this works as “advertised” and Google gets a hold of it and implements it to lower bandwidth costs for YouTube, things will change. And if this this works like it seems, YouTube will definitely use this technology.

It’s one thing for people to be torrenting illegal music and have ISPs get huffy about their bandwidth hogging, but if the millions upon millions upon millions of LEGAL YouTube users so much as lift a finger against their ISPs, then they will get what they want.

No ISP would risk losing millions of subscriber to other ISPs just because people can’t use YouTube.

And Jonathon is right, better they fix the traffic shaping issues first, because BitTorrent could fast become tedious if they don’t. As it stands ISPs with DPI can knock it off like a light if it suits, and I don’t doubt they’d do the same for a resource-intensive streaming app too, especially if it were to threaten any existing media distribution schemes they have a vested interest in.

The problem is how to that would be administered because it needs coordination between the peers and that is no easy task but is doable.

And if he does it have consequences not only for streaming but how people could accelerate bittorrent download speeds even further.

http://www.bitlet.org/video/

:)

But, will this new project be open source?