Smelling Blood, BREIN Targets Mininova, Torrentspy and Btjunkie
Written by enigmax on December 07, 2007Following the huge pressure it successfully put on LeaseWeb to shut BitTorrent sites, anti-piracy outfit BREIN smells blood as it casts a wider net to force other ISPs to shut down other huge sites, including the likes of Mininova, TorrentSpy and BTJunkie.
During the last month we’ve reported a few times on the likelihood that BREIN pressure would lead to a shuttering of BitTorrent sites at LeaseWeb. After LeaseWeb issued an ultimatum for BitTorrent sites to leave its hosting by December 1st, at least ten major sites left for hosting in new countries such as Sweden, while others felt that re-locating within the Netherlands would be acceptable, providing it was with another ISP.
BREIN director Tim Kuik is proud of these successes in The Netherlands, and although some sites have moved outside BREIN’s ‘jurisdiction’ by moving abroad, he is delighted that they have “swept the Dutch pavement clean” of torrent sites.
It seems that BREIN is not planning to stop yet, as Kuik once again threatens BitTorrent sites that are still hosted in The Netherlands: “If they do not disappear, civil legal action will follow, or even criminal legal action.”
So who will be their next target? The site Dutch site Tweakers.net is reporting that established names such as Torrentspy, mininova and Btjunkie may be targets shortly.
BREIN intends to use the everlasting.nu case to force ISPs to cough up torrent site admin’s details. However, Kuik admits the difficulties in tracking down the owners of many torrent sites as the administrators take extraordinary steps to hide their identities, including giving false details to their hosting provider. Clearly, even if BREIN gets information from the ISP, there’s every chance that these details are false, giving the site admins the chance to relocate and start again with a different host, possibly in a different country.
Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova. Their address is easy to find since they are a registered company in The Netherlands. Tim Kuik from BREIN did not want to comment on that question (scared they will lose?), but it now looks like they have shifted strategies, and target the ISPs now.
BREIN is about to start pressurizing other Dutch ISPs after their successes at LeaseWeb, who incidentally still host dozens of other BitTorrent sites. Kuik issued a veiled threat to ISPs who accept these anonymous accounts: “Hosting providers who do not check that their customer data is correct run the risk that they themselves could be held responsible for the actions of those customers.”
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85 Responses
They would be doing the BT community a favor as the sites Mininova, Torrentspy and Btjunkie, are merely index sites and full of nothing but fakes anyway.
May they go away! They only give fake uploaders a job!
I’ve never had a problem with mininova..always gotten good stuff from there
@1 if you are downloading fakes from mininova YOU are doing something wrong ! i suggest reading :
http://torrentfreak.com/stop-downloading-fakes-and-junk-torrents-071204/
Mininova has pretty good moderation, Fakes are removed swiftly.
Also:
“swept the Dutch pavement clean”
Uh.. yeah, Thats one way to look at it I guess… You Do know that through the magics of the Internet those torrent sites aren’t actually gone right?. Physical location means nothing.
Mininova is one of the best public torrentssites you can run across. Instead of automaticly indexing sites for new torrents (like the other two) it is the users who have to add torrents.
I really have no idea what private tracker people (myself is one, but not so “I’m cool” as they) sees for bad in public trackers. Public trackers is great for newcomers to get used to torrentsites. It’s like The Scene thinks about the Bittorrent community. MAKE PEACE, NOT WAR!
Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.
I have more positive feedback about mininova then the tpb.
To What?, the majority of police are asswipes because really, who goes to work as a cop? Only dumb fucks with really low iq. Of course, like everywhere, there is a minority of really decent people working for the police, but I for myself, haven’t met any.
That drunk fuck should have had his face slaughtered for driving drunk with children. What a shit facce.
Good job Brein. instead of making those sites disappear you sweep them under the couch(other countries)!
This is how my wife cleans too and it’s highly effective *cough* *cough*
ps: btjunkie rules
pss: my favorite private torrent tracker is still going strong @ leaseweb, hahaha
You can blame BREIN for all those actions, but why not blame ourselves for not doing anything …
Flaming on blogs won’t help’,
Take action !
“So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back?”
Nail on the head.
10 years and $250,000 fine for uploading a movie online before it’s release, and they are pushing to get that even stricker.
But let’s use their 10 year number ok? That’s 10 x 12 = 120 months for uploading a movie.
Going from this, a bit outdate, list for violent offenders:
http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/psatsfv.pdf
The average term for all violent offenders : 89 months.
Homicide : 149
Rape: 117
Kidnapping: 104
Robbery: 95
Sexual Assualt : 72
Assualt : 60
Think about that, homicide is the ONLY offence on that list that yeilds an average sentence LONGER than you’ll get for uploading a movie.
If I rape someone, I will usually get off 3 months before the guy who uploaded the next star wars movie.
If I violently rob someone at gun point, I’ll get off a kewl 25 months before the evil and dengerous uploader.
“I really have no idea what private tracker people (myself is one, but not so “I’m cool” as they) sees for bad in public trackers. Public trackers is great for newcomers to get used to torrentsites. It’s like The Scene thinks about the Bittorrent community. MAKE PEACE, NOT WAR!”
Let me explain it for you. Public trackers and sites like Suprnova, MiniNova, Demonoid, Torrentspy, and such are considered to be bad because it opened the whole community up to anyone with a web browser.
Before suprnova hit the scene, torrents were still a on a need to know basis for most. Those of us that have been at this game for awhile discovered them and toyed around. But low and behold, you get a bunch of giant well marketed sites making news on CNN and everyone and their brother is taking part.
The day I saw someone wearing a suprnova T shirt in my home town of middle of nowheres cannuckland, I knew torrents were about done, and I was 100% right.
Torrents are the exact opposite of the scene. The scene is dark, hard to find, almost impossible to get into, and fucking SAFE for their members.
Media attention is exactly what they don’t need or want. Then you’ve got tons of torrent sites, helping everyone pirate, people that plain just shouldn’t (how do I watch a rar file anyone?).
The backlash agains the public sites (ignoring the scene) is because they are just that, public. TOO accessable.
Christ, search for anything at google + torrent and you will get a freaking torrent download for it.
Private sites are a ‘little safer’ but not really, the difference being you can’t just walk into a private tracker swarm and get ips, private sites go to great lenghts to try to protect their users.
Beyond that, let us bring up Loki torrent, yes some of you will remember.
Great public site, lotsa stuff, wonderfull resource…. Until they got busted and handed over ALL THE IP LOGS of ALL THE USERS since day 1 to the authorities, then took the thousands of dollars donated to them for a legal defense fund and just fucked off.
If you want good scene releases from a public source I will obviously reccomend Newtorrents.info for that, as we take great care to only post up the goods, anything nasty or questionable doesn’t last long.
It’s comptetely public, but public uploads are disabled, you will only find reliable publically tracked SCENE torrents there, no homemade jim bob crappass dvdrips to kvcd there.
Which brings me to the end of my rant. Public sites like mininova are great if you have a brain, but if not, they can be a complete waste of your time. Fakes never last long there, but CRAP stays forever. Search for any movie on mininova, you’ll have to wade through a sea of KVCD crap encodes to find the scene release.
Public sites are great as they are easy to use, help you get started, and add more people to the swarm, the problem is, with public non registered sites, there is no reason for you to actually use torrents as they are intended.
This creates the leech and run situation we’re all in now. Starting on private sites was the best for my friends and I as we have grown used to maintaining a good ratio and actually SEEDING releases back to the swarm.
Public sites breed hit and run leechers that download, don’t seed, then pepper the forums with questions like :
Why is there no sound ?
How to I play a rar in WMP
Why does it say “Needed codec not installed” even tho I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A CODEC IS?
I use both private and public torrents, aswell as irc and scene ftp, it really doesn’t matter to me, but hopefully you can understand now some of the backlash to public sites, there are pros and cons, I just don’t think anyone wants to admit it’s a 50/50 split ;)
BREIN can suck my fat hairy …
[quote ]he is delighted that they have “swept the Dutch pavement clean” of torrent sites.[/quote]
Yeah…coz of the fucking MPAA and RIAA pressure.
Maggots
#11
way to preach to the converted. this is torrentfreak not fucking myspace.
@ PhishyBongwaters
Thanks for your comments. It’s nice to see a balanced view on the whole private/public issue. I’m fairly new to all this sharing stuff. There’s nothing worse than being looked down upon by “experienced” types. We all have to start somewhere, right?
For what it’s worth, I try to seed as long as possible after any download. If someone’s gone to the trouble of uploading, then it’s the least I can do in return.
Have a nice day all. :-)
good…my torrent bookmarks are getting out of control as it is, its an out of control monster….could use a few trimmed :)
#11 “The day I saw someone wearing a suprnova T shirt in my home town of middle of nowheres cannuckland, I knew torrents were about done, and I was 100% right.”
Is a load of shite. Millions more people have started using BT since Suprnova bit the dust.
Your post is elitist in the extreme.
Hey I have an idea:
Why doesn’t some torrent site make a successful case againt Brein, RIAA or what ever and then use that case in future problems?
Beat them in they own game!
not btjunkie… come on..
Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova.
you guys are clever giving em pressure take more sites down heh
[quote comment="233224"]Hey I have an idea:
Why doesn’t some torrent site make a successful case againt Brein, RIAA or what ever and then use that case in future problems?
Beat them in they own game![/quote]
Well… TPB have a case against some of the biggest companies after getting the knowledge that they hired hackers to hack their servers.
haha @ 11 TL;DR
[quote comment="233236"]Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova.
you guys are clever giving em pressure take more sites down heh[/quote]
What I asked was why they only picked the smaller guys and the ISPs, not the sites that actually have the resources to fight back.
[quote comment="233126"]Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/quote]
Brein is not the police and the police are not involved in the majority of cases in the Netherlands.
In the case of Oink, Brein and the BPI fed the police with false information that led to the arrest of Alan Ellis. Alan has not been charged and I doubt that he will be - I cannot imagine what charges there can be against him.
If Alan is not charged then can the British police sue Brein for damages for feeding them false information in the first place?
@PhishyBongwaters
10 years is the maximum, you ever heard of someone getting 10 years for downloading? You can’t compare the averages of other convictions to the maximum of one, especially when the maximum for murder is life. Stop distorting facts.
Retaliation is so easy, just keep downloading and uploading, show them there scare tactics dont work.. because there ARE just scare tactics.
The more we grow the more invincible we are.
Why is it still so popular to kill the messenger?
My theory is that stupidity is a universal factor. The universe started in a big bang but will not die in the same ball of fire. Instead, it brings us stupidity. And with stupidity time stands still. The more stupidity we then see the further away infinity moves and the universe will perish into infinite stupidity.
The reason they don’t dare target mininova directly, is because mininova’s team is simply better informed about Dutch law than they are. Brein has nothing to get them on, and they would win any courtcase targeted at mininova, which in turn would create a great precedent, of course Brein are pissing their pants over that option.
[quote comment="233256"]If Alan is not charged then can the British police sue Brein for damages for feeding them false information in the first place?[/quote]Perhaps. Most of what Brein does is trying to promote a fear-machine. Hoping ‘the people’ will fall for it and stop being peers, a ludicrous false pretence; All that people are getting is faster internet at home, and a growing detachement from ‘media authorities’.
[quote comment="233246"][quote comment="233236"]Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova.
you guys are clever giving em pressure take more sites down heh[/quote]
What I asked was why they only picked the smaller guys and the ISPs, not the sites that actually have the resources to fight back.[/quote]
Great retaliation strategy being used… weed out all the little sites and gather information from them, information that leads to the original poster/site. Holding this information till the perfect moment to throw it all down on the table the day of court against the bigger fish leaving them no chance of winning. Lets come to terms with this all… like that we can move on to the future instead of dwindling on the past.
Time to take action.
[quote]BREIN director Tim Kuik is proud of these successes in The Netherlands, and although some sites have moved outside BREIN’s ‘jurisdiction’ by moving abroad, he is delighted that they have “swept the Dutch pavement clean” of torrent sites.[/quote]
He’s delighted to be driving business out of the Netherlands and eliminating Dutch jobs.
Nice guy.
Except for the famously defiant Pirate Bay, all the major torrent sites such as Mininova and Torrentspy adhere to DMCA takedown procedures - so they are no more illegal than Youtube in infringing copyrights.
F. fucking
E. entertainment
A. assholes
R. retribution
the only real weapon they got
even if they are able to kill torrents (unlikely)
we can always go back to swapping cd’s with friends.
Piracy will not stop, no law or asshole in power can ever change that…ok i lied one man can, George W. Bush, but it involves a whole lotta nukes and the destruction of the human race.
[quote comment="233202"]#11
way to preach to the converted. this is torrentfreak not fucking myspace.[/quote]
lol
[quote comment="233423"]Except for the famously defiant Pirate Bay, all the major torrent sites such as Mininova and Torrentspy adhere to DMCA takedown procedures - so they are no more illegal than Youtube in infringing copyrights.[/quote]
Less than that. YouTube hosts the content, torrent sites do not.
Moral of the story is:If your gona get poped and imprisoned DLn you might as well wax a few of the necon goonies on your way out.I have over 2500 rounds that say FUCK YOU RIAA MPAA AND ALL WHO BACK THEM.
Facing 10 years and 1/2 a mill in fines I will take my chances behind a barrel!@ least if they send me to God I will get fair judgment.
[quote comment="233463"]Moral of the story is:If your gona get poped and imprisoned DLn you might as well wax a few of the necon goonies on your way out.I have over 2500 rounds that say FUCK YOU RIAA MPAA AND ALL WHO BACK THEM.
Facing 10 years and 1/2 a mill in fines I will take my chances behind a barrel!@ least if they send me to God I will get fair judgment.[/quote]
Keep in mind… other then the US… Downloading isn’t illegal. Its uploading 100% of the torrent that is illegal. Bring to mind that anyone with less then 100% has just a load of metadata that makes nothing.
don’t they see the pattern emerging here? if they take down one site (especially a big one ie mininova) new sites pop up. and often not only one, but multiple! makes it even harder for them to “stop” whatever “illegal” torrent linking these sites do. but then again, maybe that’s the point. more work for them, more money from the industry.
to hell with it all.
I have a view on torrents that is probably somewhat the view of others. When I go to a friends house to watch a movie I don’t get arrested. When I download a movie from a peer in my torrent friend community I believe its the same thing. They might want to actually read the letter of the law, which is very undefined at this point. Then again they want to arrest us for governing the mpaa. Thats right, we are the actual governing body of the MPAA cause we decide what is good and what is not. I believe we sceners and downloaders are better movie critics than those fogies at the mpaa. You know, I would not mind spending a bit more money a month outside of my newsgroups for mininova and such. Just to shut their greedy mouths, so they can publish three copies of the same dvd, and charge twice as much for anniversary editions while using memorex cheap ass dvd’s to publish them on. What a bunch of losers.
If you hate the MPAA so much, watch movies that are not put out by MPAA companies. Support those movies monetarily.
In short, make non-MPAA studios and distributors look like a better option for filmmakers to go with.
I hope miniNova is taking precautions cos in this world it is might that’s right and it is the organised that get things done.
It is public tracker sites that have made BT popular but they are the protocols main weakness.
I think newer protocol like dargens anonymous bit torrent is both public and safe see http://www.dargens.com .
Personally, I prefer public trackers as although private are more secure they play into the hands fo the RIAA. Private to some people point to conspiracies.
[quote comment="233522"]If you hate the MPAA so much, watch movies that are not put out by MPAA companies. Support those movies monetarily.
In short, make non-MPAA studios and distributors look like a better option for filmmakers to go with.[/quote]
Umm yeah. Read some more about what the MPAA does. They rate the movies, and pretty much tell producers what is and what is not allowed. You can’t get rid of the MPAA, but it would be nice to have individuals working there that actually gave a rats ass about developing law to limit the amount of dvd’s and got their nose in to advocate for lower pricing. Seriously, how many people here want to spend 80 bucks for three not even half ass decent movies on blue ray?
If these sites fall so will the rest , slowly one after the other.
Pathetic!!!
BREIN(dead) did not triumph over the torrent sites - they just threatened ONE isp, which pissed its pants!!!
Hello? How does this count as a legal victory? They didn’t even meet their target in court!
The weakness in that country, the weak link if you will, is neither the government nor the law; it is the COWARDLY ISPs!!!
And the solution is not to run and hide, but rather to find an ISP that has balls, and give them money!
[quote comment="233126"]Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/quote]
Dude i totally agree with you.
Fucking shitheads like Brein need to get a life and they gotta stop fucking trying to spend their shit ass life making pathetic fucking attempts to fucking shut down torrent sites when stuff like homicides and kidnapping and arsons are happening all over the fucking place.
thats awesome, hope it happens sooner than later
as long as you ppl DESIRE the things the mpaa/riaa have, you lose.
the reality is, YOUR WANTING what they have (or what they control) you will never win.
so STOP WANTING anything related to the mpaa/riaa/bsa/whoever.. their movies, music, software, whatever.
until then, you are all at their mercy.
as long as you ppl DESIRE the things the mpaa/riaa have, you lose.
the reality is, YOUR WANTING what they have (or what they control) you will never win.
so STOP WANTING anything related to the mpaa/riaa/bsa/whoever.. their movies, music, software, whatever.
until then, you are all at their mercy.
My double pump shotty says different
>>42
CaptainHack, the MPAA is responsible for ratings (G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17) but there is no law that a movie has to be rated. There are many unrated movies.
You could go to the extreme of only supporting unrated movies, but it would not take this much to cripple the MPAA. They don’t get royalties on movies that they merely rate. With ratings as their main, or only, revenue source, the MPAA would be a shadow of what they are now.
In other words: support indie movies, rated or not.
what a bunch of stupid motherfuckers
Civil legal action? Sometimes I think those guys watched ‘Boondock Saints’ too many times.
[quote comment="233202"]#11
way to preach to the converted. this is torrentfreak not fucking myspace.[/quote]
I strongly disagree! Many, many people (inc. “noobs”) come here, and have no idea why the rest of the online shadow world is not as open as the public torrent sites.
This guy did a great job explaining what the situation is, and why it is; as opposed to the typical flame against the ignorant, this guy gave them education in a polite, friendly, but firm manner.
Please, do not make the common mistake of confusing ignorance/knowledge/education with intelligence. They are two _very_ different concepts.
[quote comment="233224"]Hey I have an idea:
Why doesn’t some torrent site make a successful case againt Brein, RIAA or what ever and then use that case in future problems?
Beat them in they own game![/quote]
Don’t forget, you are talking to amateurs with lower- and middle-class income and education; as smart and passionate as we may be, we do not have the same resources the mafIAA does.
I think it’s time to find a fat juicy SCANDAL tucked in BREIN as was found in Media Defender. Media Defender’s website is still up, but they were HURT BAD.
[quote comment="233735"][quote comment="233224"]Hey I have an idea:
Why doesn’t some torrent site make a successful case againt Brein, RIAA or what ever and then use that case in future problems?
Beat them in they own game![/quote]
Don’t forget, you are talking to amateurs with lower- and middle-class income and education; as smart and passionate as we may be, we do not have the same resources the mafIAA does.[/quote]
then best example is that the mafiAA is afraid to bring youtube to court
Bittorrents = freedom.
That’s what “they’re” gunning for.
Don’t be fooled, read more and fightback!
Quote from me, Mr Thomas ~ “I am all for freedom of speech, how can this file-sharing, making no profit, be as criminal as robbing a bank, non-profit File-sharing is not immoral & must be legal, will this mean lets throw constitution fights in prison as terrorists, wtf has our government been up too, protect our rights as a free Unionized nation, we are the land of the free, the land of human rights, not guillotines, and torture. The Geneva Conventions must be followed, any leader who disobeys the Geneva Conventions must get the Death Penalty under treason or else Americas government will f**k us all and rape our wives. Stop! Corporate America, and corporate child/adult pornographica”.
[quote comment="233170"]You can blame BREIN for all those actions, but why not blame ourselves for not doing anything …
Flaming on blogs won’t help’,
Take action ![/quote]
I agree, in fact I’ve taken it upon myself to host several trackers upon my web root hosting server infrastructure. For those who don’t understand, I’ve basically have a huge server that’s faster than your computer x10 combined on a gigabit fiber optic connection. Anyone who connects to my server while I’m seeding stuff can expect a down speed of about 1Mbs if their connection can handle it. ;)
This of course isn’t the main function of the server; just a little side job so it has something else to do with all that extra power.
FUCK OFF BREIN !
You can’t touch Mininova, i am very sure of it !
Give a try :)))))
I know how powerful they are. give a try!
FUCK OFF BREIN !
You can’t touch Mininova, i am very sure of it !
Give a try :)))))
I know how powerful they are. give a try!
These guys are tooo greedy.
[quote comment="233154"]To What?, the majority of police are asswipes because really, who goes to work as a cop? Only dumb fucks with really low iq. Of course, like everywhere, there is a minority of really decent people working for the police, but I for myself, haven’t met any.[/quote]
Ah, the educated voice of reason.
[quote comment="234074"]I hope demonoid gets attacked by RIAA Hackers. They stole my work, I made no money off my work.
If subdemon won’t remove my photo I will engage troll war with their forums until they remove my photo, once and for all.[/quote]
lol? lulz!
[quote comment="234079"]THEY ARE THIEFS, DEMONOID IS A THIEF, THEY WILL SUFFER GODS WRATH AND THEY WILL SUFFER FOR GOD.
I TOLD MY PREACHER EVERYTHING DEMONOID DID TO ME AND MY PHOTO THEY STOLEN AND MY PREACHER SAID “I HOPE GOD ATTACKS SUBDEMON, AND BRING WRATH UPON DEMONOID AND SUBDEMON, THEY WORK FOR SATAN. GOD WILL BRING THEM DOWN”[/quote]
Did your preacher also told you about lil’ boys and girls?
[quote comment="234148"][quote comment="234079"]THEY ARE THIEFS, DEMONOID IS A THIEF, THEY WILL SUFFER GODS WRATH AND THEY WILL SUFFER FOR GOD.
I TOLD MY PREACHER EVERYTHING DEMONOID DID TO ME AND MY PHOTO THEY STOLEN AND MY PREACHER SAID “I HOPE GOD ATTACKS SUBDEMON, AND BRING WRATH UPON DEMONOID AND SUBDEMON, THEY WORK FOR SATAN. GOD WILL BRING THEM DOWN”[/quote]
Did your preacher also told you about lil’ boys and girls?[/quote]
No, in fact you want me to kill myself like the VT Guy who killed himself.
You want me to kill myself, You all wanna get rid of me, why don’t I just DIE.
only solution: bomb BREIN foundation’s palace or whatever shithole they have.
Why don’t I hang myself, get a public TV station and show myself die on national TV, or show myself die on youtube. Yeah you would love that if I did that, boy you could sell stuff off my suffering and get publicity.
mininova is the best public tracker out right now. while i know many enthusiasts are going nuts for private trackers. i’d argue they do more damage than good. look at indietorrents for example; it’s almost impossible to get into unless you’re deep in the scene and even then it’s hard. if you’re there for leeching then it’s all good but if you are really into the music and just want to pick up rare gems, you’re out of luck because the music is locked away inside these private communities.
Haha those tactics are low, they are using blackmail and mafia-esque tactics to bully the isps into booting the torrent sites off, because they know they have no chance if they take on the sites and their admin themselves. This is highly illegal, if the relevant authorities knew about this BREIN wouldn’t exist. Those of you who live in the Netherlands, let your government and consumer protection agencies know what these criminals are doing, shut them down once and for all.
FUCK BREIN NO-ONE CAN DESTROY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SITE IN THE WORLS MININOOOOOOOVA!
BREIN is a media organization will an unlimited warchest playing fast and loose with the law in a respectable European country reknowned for its tolerance
it will all end in tears for BREIN …
OH MY GOD
Everytime they shut one of our community sites down ^Demonoid^,^Oink^ we will replace it within 24hrs by 10fold! SeedMonster.com
The primary reason hit and run is such a problem is because people “with a brain” (as #11 put it) have heard of jimmy getting slapped with these ridiculous fines, and don’t want to receive that themselves.
Private Trackers are great, if you can get in. I’m a member in two and find it absolutely great. I wish I could find one that wasn’t music oriented though :/.
Public Trackers tend to be slower, and have many “dead” torrents and a lot of fakes, however, with Demonoid, I didn’t have to wait for the file(s) I was looking for to pop-up. They were burried in the masses. Sure, it took some digging and some effort, but it paid off.
One last thing, this whole “quality” focus is kind of annoying. Sure, I don’t want to download some 64KB/s GoogTube rip, but these FLAC files ranging from 500MB to 1GB are ridiculous. I’m perfectly happy with a 192KB/s-320KB/s MP3 but anything beyond that is too much space for too little quality improvement. Why use 1TB of space when I can use 300GB for slightly less quality. It’s good I suppose, to encourage the whole quality thing, but I think its going a bit too far when you have to wait 30min-1hour for an album to download, and after a few days of browsing you realize you’re out of HD space, kinda ridiculous.
What would Michael Jackson do?
The ‘brein’ foundation has only one goal, to get more money for themselves, there have been investigation and questions asked about how they sit on information about their finances, how their director pays himself insane amounts, how they force artist to sign up and pay a few grand for the privilege and how they get nothing much in return.
Their actions are meant to get american sponsor money into their organization I’m sure, that then will disappear into their pockets.
They are more shifty than the MPAA/RIAA, and possibly even more than mediadefender..
Oh and incidentally, to set up a foundation (like BREIN) in holland all you have to do is go to an office from the government and pay like $80 for a paper and wham you are a foundation, there’s no questions asked apart from an ID.
So I could go out and start ’stichting superbrein’ and start pressuring people into giving me money and threatening sites as if I were some official, all the while keeping my administration secret and just pretend to support artists.
And that would be a 1:1 copy then.
[QUOTE]Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/QUOTE]
I don’t agree with drinking and driving, but your just as much an ass as he was. Lets say he got in a wreck, and the drinking was proven to be the true cause(Which in most cases it gets the blame, but more often than not, it’s something else that really caused it). You should be held just as responsible for the injuries the kids may have suffered in said crash, because you knowingly allowed them to be carted off by the alleged drunk driver. That alone made you no better than him.
Then to call and narc him out?! Don’t you realize their is nothing worse in this world than a tattle tale? A truely responsible adult would have taken the keys, drove him and the kids home, and not let him out on the road to begine with. If he didn’t agree to that, then you should have removed the children from the vehicle, and told him to fugg off.
I would say in this case, that the police had better things to do than deal with parents who can’t be competent enough in that situation to begine with. Every single one of you were at fault.
What happened to Demonoid? BRIEN chased them out of Europe, then the CRIA scared them into shutting down, but this time Demonoid don’t seem to be moving. Instead, they’ve started subdemon where people are allowed to chat about anything but filesharing. They said this is to “keep the community together.” Unless they plan on restarting Demonoid, don’t bother.
[quote comment="233126"]Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/quote]
You’re a complete idiot. Way to put your kids lives in danger. You and Mrs. Lohan are front runners for parents of the year.
[quote comment="237717"][quote comment="233126"]Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/quote]
You’re a complete idiot. Way to put your kids lives in danger. You and Mrs. Lohan are front runners for parents of the year.[/quote]
You have a big mouth, Mr. Why, but its a ‘k lot easier to talk badass online than it is to in real life. Same goes for this situation.
Offline, Mr. Why, if you had just realized that your spouses ex has been drinking, as he begins to drive off, would you have the balls to call him out / chase him down / drag him out of the car? Even if you did, (which I doubt), not many other people do.
There’s always a “holy shit, I can’t believe this is real” factor that makes you hesitate for just a couple of seconds. And it looks like that’s what happened here.
Don’t judge until you have been in the same situation, we’ve all done stupid things that we regret.
Actually, I think it would make sense to come up with a new way of funding the artists and associates. I mean, to create the art, everyone got paid. So that’s covered, you just have to repay the guy who paid them.
There should be an easy way to find the bankroller of the artwork online, a centralized copyright-credit database; and having found the bankroller of the aristic work, there should be an easy to contribute money, like an associated one-stop site where you select the bankroller to pay, you select the work you are supporting, and you select the amount of money you want to contribute.
If online money transfers could be simplified and popularized, I think this would be a great idea: instead of FBI warnings on downloaded movies, there would be a “If you like this movie, please visit make a payment to (bankroller) for (this film)” , right before the credits.
Ideally this would be the prime method of getting money from us to the creators of artistic work; obviously that’s not possible, immediately or ever. However, I think it would be a great idea to implement right now _concurrently_ with the other sources of revenue they get.
Because honestly, I’d rather support the work directly by paying back its bankroller, then support the mafIAA by funneling the money through them.
It’s hard to stop these sites because they work outside the laws of the United States. Sure you can shut them down in the States, but the majority of them are run outside of the United Stats. Where U.S. Laws can’t touch them. So as long as other countries continue to do nothing about piracy. Piracy will live on forever.
im a new user on bt junkie and i think its great i try to seed as long as possible.i dont see how they can justifie the use of police manpower to chase “illegal torrent sites”this country has gone mental!!!!UP YOURS BREIN!!!!
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