Smelling Blood, BREIN Targets Mininova, Torrentspy and Btjunkie
Written by enigmax on December 07, 2007Following the huge pressure it successfully put on LeaseWeb to shut BitTorrent sites, anti-piracy outfit BREIN smells blood as it casts a wider net to force other ISPs to shut down other huge sites, including the likes of Mininova, TorrentSpy and BTJunkie.
During the last month we’ve reported a few times on the likelihood that BREIN pressure would lead to a shuttering of BitTorrent sites at LeaseWeb. After LeaseWeb issued an ultimatum for BitTorrent sites to leave its hosting by December 1st, at least ten major sites left for hosting in new countries such as Sweden, while others felt that re-locating within the Netherlands would be acceptable, providing it was with another ISP.
BREIN director Tim Kuik is proud of these successes in The Netherlands, and although some sites have moved outside BREIN’s ‘jurisdiction’ by moving abroad, he is delighted that they have “swept the Dutch pavement clean” of torrent sites.
It seems that BREIN is not planning to stop yet, as Kuik once again threatens BitTorrent sites that are still hosted in The Netherlands: “If they do not disappear, civil legal action will follow, or even criminal legal action.”
So who will be their next target? The site Dutch site Tweakers.net is reporting that established names such as Torrentspy, mininova and Btjunkie may be targets shortly.
BREIN intends to use the everlasting.nu case to force ISPs to cough up torrent site admin’s details. However, Kuik admits the difficulties in tracking down the owners of many torrent sites as the administrators take extraordinary steps to hide their identities, including giving false details to their hosting provider. Clearly, even if BREIN gets information from the ISP, there’s every chance that these details are false, giving the site admins the chance to relocate and start again with a different host, possibly in a different country.
Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova. Their address is easy to find since they are a registered company in The Netherlands. Tim Kuik from BREIN did not want to comment on that question (scared they will lose?), but it now looks like they have shifted strategies, and target the ISPs now.
BREIN is about to start pressurizing other Dutch ISPs after their successes at LeaseWeb, who incidentally still host dozens of other BitTorrent sites. Kuik issued a veiled threat to ISPs who accept these anonymous accounts: “Hosting providers who do not check that their customer data is correct run the risk that they themselves could be held responsible for the actions of those customers.”
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Retaliation is so easy, just keep downloading and uploading, show them there scare tactics dont work.. because there ARE just scare tactics.
The more we grow the more invincible we are.
Why is it still so popular to kill the messenger?
My theory is that stupidity is a universal factor. The universe started in a big bang but will not die in the same ball of fire. Instead, it brings us stupidity. And with stupidity time stands still. The more stupidity we then see the further away infinity moves and the universe will perish into infinite stupidity.
The reason they don’t dare target mininova directly, is because mininova’s team is simply better informed about Dutch law than they are. Brein has nothing to get them on, and they would win any courtcase targeted at mininova, which in turn would create a great precedent, of course Brein are pissing their pants over that option.
[quote comment="233256"]If Alan is not charged then can the British police sue Brein for damages for feeding them false information in the first place?[/quote]Perhaps. Most of what Brein does is trying to promote a fear-machine. Hoping ‘the people’ will fall for it and stop being peers, a ludicrous false pretence; All that people are getting is faster internet at home, and a growing detachement from ‘media authorities’.
[quote comment="233246"][quote comment="233236"]Last week TorrentFreak asked BREIN why they didn’t take action against sites like mininova.
you guys are clever giving em pressure take more sites down heh[/quote]
What I asked was why they only picked the smaller guys and the ISPs, not the sites that actually have the resources to fight back.[/quote]
Great retaliation strategy being used… weed out all the little sites and gather information from them, information that leads to the original poster/site. Holding this information till the perfect moment to throw it all down on the table the day of court against the bigger fish leaving them no chance of winning. Lets come to terms with this all… like that we can move on to the future instead of dwindling on the past.
Time to take action.
[quote]BREIN director Tim Kuik is proud of these successes in The Netherlands, and although some sites have moved outside BREIN’s ‘jurisdiction’ by moving abroad, he is delighted that they have “swept the Dutch pavement clean” of torrent sites.[/quote]
He’s delighted to be driving business out of the Netherlands and eliminating Dutch jobs.
Nice guy.
Except for the famously defiant Pirate Bay, all the major torrent sites such as Mininova and Torrentspy adhere to DMCA takedown procedures - so they are no more illegal than Youtube in infringing copyrights.
F. fucking
E. entertainment
A. assholes
R. retribution
the only real weapon they got
even if they are able to kill torrents (unlikely)
we can always go back to swapping cd’s with friends.
Piracy will not stop, no law or asshole in power can ever change that…ok i lied one man can, George W. Bush, but it involves a whole lotta nukes and the destruction of the human race.
[quote comment="233202"]#11
way to preach to the converted. this is torrentfreak not fucking myspace.[/quote]
lol
[quote comment="233423"]Except for the famously defiant Pirate Bay, all the major torrent sites such as Mininova and Torrentspy adhere to DMCA takedown procedures - so they are no more illegal than Youtube in infringing copyrights.[/quote]
Less than that. YouTube hosts the content, torrent sites do not.
Moral of the story is:If your gona get poped and imprisoned DLn you might as well wax a few of the necon goonies on your way out.I have over 2500 rounds that say FUCK YOU RIAA MPAA AND ALL WHO BACK THEM.
Facing 10 years and 1/2 a mill in fines I will take my chances behind a barrel!@ least if they send me to God I will get fair judgment.
[quote comment="233463"]Moral of the story is:If your gona get poped and imprisoned DLn you might as well wax a few of the necon goonies on your way out.I have over 2500 rounds that say FUCK YOU RIAA MPAA AND ALL WHO BACK THEM.
Facing 10 years and 1/2 a mill in fines I will take my chances behind a barrel!@ least if they send me to God I will get fair judgment.[/quote]
Keep in mind… other then the US… Downloading isn’t illegal. Its uploading 100% of the torrent that is illegal. Bring to mind that anyone with less then 100% has just a load of metadata that makes nothing.
don’t they see the pattern emerging here? if they take down one site (especially a big one ie mininova) new sites pop up. and often not only one, but multiple! makes it even harder for them to “stop” whatever “illegal” torrent linking these sites do. but then again, maybe that’s the point. more work for them, more money from the industry.
to hell with it all.
I have a view on torrents that is probably somewhat the view of others. When I go to a friends house to watch a movie I don’t get arrested. When I download a movie from a peer in my torrent friend community I believe its the same thing. They might want to actually read the letter of the law, which is very undefined at this point. Then again they want to arrest us for governing the mpaa. Thats right, we are the actual governing body of the MPAA cause we decide what is good and what is not. I believe we sceners and downloaders are better movie critics than those fogies at the mpaa. You know, I would not mind spending a bit more money a month outside of my newsgroups for mininova and such. Just to shut their greedy mouths, so they can publish three copies of the same dvd, and charge twice as much for anniversary editions while using memorex cheap ass dvd’s to publish them on. What a bunch of losers.
If you hate the MPAA so much, watch movies that are not put out by MPAA companies. Support those movies monetarily.
In short, make non-MPAA studios and distributors look like a better option for filmmakers to go with.
I hope miniNova is taking precautions cos in this world it is might that’s right and it is the organised that get things done.
It is public tracker sites that have made BT popular but they are the protocols main weakness.
I think newer protocol like dargens anonymous bit torrent is both public and safe see http://www.dargens.com .
Personally, I prefer public trackers as although private are more secure they play into the hands fo the RIAA. Private to some people point to conspiracies.
[quote comment="233522"]If you hate the MPAA so much, watch movies that are not put out by MPAA companies. Support those movies monetarily.
In short, make non-MPAA studios and distributors look like a better option for filmmakers to go with.[/quote]
Umm yeah. Read some more about what the MPAA does. They rate the movies, and pretty much tell producers what is and what is not allowed. You can’t get rid of the MPAA, but it would be nice to have individuals working there that actually gave a rats ass about developing law to limit the amount of dvd’s and got their nose in to advocate for lower pricing. Seriously, how many people here want to spend 80 bucks for three not even half ass decent movies on blue ray?
If these sites fall so will the rest , slowly one after the other.
Pathetic!!!
BREIN(dead) did not triumph over the torrent sites - they just threatened ONE isp, which pissed its pants!!!
Hello? How does this count as a legal victory? They didn’t even meet their target in court!
The weakness in that country, the weak link if you will, is neither the government nor the law; it is the COWARDLY ISPs!!!
And the solution is not to run and hide, but rather to find an ISP that has balls, and give them money!
[quote comment="233126"]Last week my wife and I dropped the kids off in the local mall’s parking lot and there we waited for their natural father to show up for there weekend visit. We handed the kids over, they got in the car, and it wasn’t until AFTER they were all back in his SUV did I realize he must have been drinking (maybe a 6-pack or so) and noticed empties in the SUV on the floor. He drove off after a little discussion so I called the cops, they did nothing. I called the cops in the next county over, they did NOTHING. So let me get this correct, The police forces of this world are more interested in protecting movie publishers and cracking down on little Bobby getting his next MP3 song to walk to school with than to stop a drunk driver with open containers and kids in the back? Hard to respect any police agency that puts this much effort into a so called crime when in many countries it is legal so long as you do not make a profit off downloading. Get back to real crime fighting and stop lobbying to make things a crime when they are not in some countries and shouldn’t be in the others.[/quote]
Dude i totally agree with you.
Fucking shitheads like Brein need to get a life and they gotta stop fucking trying to spend their shit ass life making pathetic fucking attempts to fucking shut down torrent sites when stuff like homicides and kidnapping and arsons are happening all over the fucking place.
thats awesome, hope it happens sooner than later
as long as you ppl DESIRE the things the mpaa/riaa have, you lose.
the reality is, YOUR WANTING what they have (or what they control) you will never win.
so STOP WANTING anything related to the mpaa/riaa/bsa/whoever.. their movies, music, software, whatever.
until then, you are all at their mercy.
as long as you ppl DESIRE the things the mpaa/riaa have, you lose.
the reality is, YOUR WANTING what they have (or what they control) you will never win.
so STOP WANTING anything related to the mpaa/riaa/bsa/whoever.. their movies, music, software, whatever.
until then, you are all at their mercy.
My double pump shotty says different
>>42
CaptainHack, the MPAA is responsible for ratings (G, PG, PG-13, R, NC-17) but there is no law that a movie has to be rated. There are many unrated movies.
You could go to the extreme of only supporting unrated movies, but it would not take this much to cripple the MPAA. They don’t get royalties on movies that they merely rate. With ratings as their main, or only, revenue source, the MPAA would be a shadow of what they are now.
In other words: support indie movies, rated or not.
what a bunch of stupid motherfuckers
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