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BREIN Wants Usenet Provider To Start Filtering

In recent months there have been several attempts by anti-piracy groups to force file-sharing sites to filter links from their systems. But now in a bold move by Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN, there are demands that a Usenet provider should proactively filter infringing content from the worldwide newsgroup system.

For the music and movie industries, the blocking of file-sharing websites and/or the filtering of links they carry is fast becoming a fashionable weapon of choice. Perhaps the most famous example was the assault on Mininova, which culminated in the site having to remove huge numbers of torrents which may (or indeed may not) point to copyright content.

That action was forced by Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN who are making more than their fair share of headlines recently, and who are about to make even more. While successfully demanding that Mininova remove links to infringing content, BREIN have never really made inroads into getting the actual infringing content removed from the Internet – but all that could be about to change.

In a fairly bold move even by their standards, the anti-piracy group headed up by Tim Kuik has initiated legal action to force a Usenet service provider, much like Giganews or Newshosting, to start proactively filtering content from the worldwide newsgroup system.

The small seven-employee Usenet company News-Service.com is being sued by BREIN on claims that it facilitates copyright infringement and is demanding that the company ceases to offer copyright material or face fines of 50,000 euros per day.

Technical director of News-Service.com Patrick Schreurs strongly refutes BREIN’s claims and says that his company only provides access to Usenet and maintains that it is a mere conduit of information.

“BREIN’s move is comparable to suing a postal service for shipping illicit goods,” he said.

Schreurs’ assertion that trying to check up to 20 million daily Usenet messages is an impossibility raises a very real concern. If a legal requirement to filter perfectly, as was the case with Mininova, is implemented against News-Service (on pain of 50,000 euros per day in fines) the company could not carry this burden for long. If BREIN gets their way, Schreurs says the company will have to stop providing Usenet access.

News-Service already operates a Notice-and-Takedown system but, as was the case with Mininova, BREIN is not satisfied with its scope or performance.

“We were under the assumption that with this procedure we met the wishes of BREIN and that we would work on a solution together,” said Schreurs. “We regret the fact that BREIN has chosen a different course with this [legal] action.”

The case, the first of its type against a Usenet provider in The Netherlands, was heard on April 19th and the judge is expected to announce his decision early next month.

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  • Anonymous

    Meh. Why are they allowed to operate again?

  • Whatever

    Again cooperation is futile, it ends up in being sued anyway so why bother. All providers should first check history before giving in. In Australia the ISP didn’t do anything except maybe refer to the police and that worked in court. Even if a case is lost in court there is no reason to make it easy for them by cooperating with takedown policies because it weakens the position as a mere conduit.

    Advice to any service provider in future: Never give the MAFIAA a finger, they will byte off half your body when you do. They’re not after what is reasonable, they are only want your total destruction and the most vicious species there is.

    (offtopic: A different defense for a bigger ISP could be the damage to the economy by claiming lost jobs by filtering. ISP jobs, internet router engineer, supporting and dependend personel and so on)

    @TF
    I guess you had time to find the comment (notice and takedown part was new to me).

  • Toysoldier

    So now BREIN also gets to decide the how much ppl will get fined. Who do they think they are ?
    All this imaginative power is getting to BREIN’s head.
    The bigger they think they are the harder they fall.

  • Meep me

    I’m a pirate too, but there is too much attention 4 USENET the last months, like Mr M from RLSLOG did a week ago. Talking about stupid moves.

  • James

    BREIN can suck my balls! Everybody who things Usenet is dead: http://www.unzbin.com

  • mmg1818

    @James

    Thanks for Unzbin

    http://www.unzbin.com

    have RSS/ATOM, this is good.

  • 9ninety9

    Court OKs Unmasking Identities of Copyright Scofflaws – http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/unmasking-copyright-scofflaws

  • Mbb

    I have XSNEWS al more then a year for free, but you need to live in Holland

  • apparently

    and i want BREIN to STFU

  • Yandrea

    @5,@6
    Thanks for the tip! I tried Unzbin, works great!

  • Rekrul

    If a legal requirement to filter perfectly, as was the case with Mininova, is implemented against News-Service (on pain of 50,000 euros per day in fines) the company could not carry this burden for long. If BREIN gets their way, Schreurs says the company will have to stop providing Usenet access.

    Which is exactly what they want.

  • ZIOS

    i want brein to have a time out and go to the corner

  • Lord Mandy

    In the UK we have a new law to block access to any site or service that may allow copyright infringement.

  • Maluku

    BERIN:
    ‘a bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes’

  • neostyle

    Too bad they can’t make all internet traffic be moderated. it would be slower but at least nobody could steal important films like Kick-ass.

  • Anonymous

    Going after the small companies to set a legal precedent and then moving onto the big boys, smart but BREIN can really are pathetic.

  • Muhandias

    @14 Maluku

    Funny you should say that, I was just browsing a weird website claiming to predict the future, where I found this;

    BREIN:
    ‘a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came’

  • anon2

    how many times has this same argument been used before and still the web site was forced to shut? how many minor sites have been targeted first to test the water, before the bigger sites are taken on, using the ‘little’ victories as reference to influence the court rulings? they are on a hiding to nothing and so is every other file sharing web site unless they all get together and fight as one unanimous body. how many sites have got to lose in court and be forced to close down before they get it into their thick brains that there is no other way of wining? wake up before it is too late!! jeez!!

  • Lusernet

    I’m all with BREIN! Down with P2L! Learn to pirate like a man or GTFO teh interwebz!

  • Nef

    I started laughing when i read “Brein wants” in the headline … ;)

  • internet user

    ok really people they can’t do jack shit. I mean there are about 100 million of us and how many of them again? Pirate away folks.

  • inet user

    Column: In era of downloading, music industry must adapt or die
    http://www.uni.illinois.edu/og/2007/05/music_column_ranny.htm

    This goes for every other thing that is digital also.

  • Anonymous
  • Resoned Mind

    I wanna catch pirates when I grow up. Time to walk the plank you bad pirate mans.

  • Hellster

    I’d love to see BREIN up against a multi million dollar company who can afford expensive lawyers etc , they’d piss their pants. Afterall lets face it , they only win coz they have money behind them and take on $hitty little companies that have no way to defend themselves. Sorry to say this BREIN but you’re just like a schoolyard bully , you take on the little weaklings who can’t defend themselves and that just makes you look pathetic and weak.

  • r00t AT localhost

    Timmeh is putting us Dutchman in a bad daylight. First international torrent sites (TPB, etc) now Usenet, what’s next? BREIN suing the internets?

  • Gargamel

    After this goes through it’ll be the death of USENET.

    Thats ok. I never cared for parasitic leeches that make money off piracy anyway.

  • Jack

    Next up: BREIN wants a pony. News at a 11.

    J.

  • anonymous

    @#25
    if we are not careful, that is exactly what we will be seeing. trouble is, there will have been so many smaller sites shut down, there will only be the big sites left. all the previous victories will make the court think that there must be illegal activities going on so down will go the big sites. end of internet!! dont leave it too late people.
    @#21
    doesn’t matter how many of us there are in relation to them, as long as the many do nothing, the few will win every time! the longer nothing is done to resist the actions against web site closures and file sharing, the harder it is going to be to claw anything back!

  • I dare you fuck

    I too would like to see those fuckers go after someone else than the widow & orphan and the poor.
    Someone of your own size, and not just bully the little guy who has no money and lawyer.
    Yes please, go after Giganews.
    This is going to be extremely interesting to see if you can musel free speech and kill Usenet.
    Please do try BREIN please do, I dare you fuck!!! try it

  • cdcase

    this is is from THE EU The Copyright Directive from what i read the dutch implemented it into law pretty much as directive was written

    one limitation is obligatory:
    transient or incidental copying as part of a network transmission or legal use. Hence internet service providers are not liable for the data they transmit, even if it infringes copyright. The other limitations are optional, with Member States choosing which they apply. All limitations must be applied in accordance with the Berne three-step test, that is in certain special cases which do not conflict with a normal exploitation of the work and which do not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the rightholder

    If what i found is correct brein has no leg too stand on

  • JayD

    22:15 by Gargamel

    “I never cared for parasitic leeches that make money off piracy anyway.”

    ..and what is your ISP doing when you seed your torrents? Do you want them to die also…?

    Get your story straight, dushbag!!

  • Anonymous

    As usually Brein goes after the small guys they thing they can crunch just like the bullies they are.

    Hopefully they will break more teeth on this one just as it happen when they tried to bit TBP.

    This is another lesson for usenet teaching them not to negotiate with terrorists.

  • anonymous

    @#30
    biggest problem with that is each country seems to be able to ignore what they want and adopt what they want from the directive, eg France, Italy. when the entertainment industry finds that a country hasn’t used the bits IT wants, the lobbying begins to get the law changed. picking off individual countries undermines the EU exactly the same way as picking off small companies does. eventually they have to fight the biggest one(s) but already have a good head start!

  • jovialau

    Totally agree with 18.Combine forces and fight like hell.If not the guerrilla tactics of Brein will do enormous damage long term.Any success they achieve will be perceived by courts as “setting a precedent”Courts have in the past been most reluctant to set precedents as it changes the future.It seems though,that Brein is able to overcome this reluctance!

  • strongbad

    im horny, ASL brein, maybe we can cyber sum time
    kthx

  • Ninja

    Seven more jobs took away by MAFIAA. Along with several lives they’ve already ruined I hope they generate jobs for every1 with those measures they are taken.

    Right, I’m Santa Claus.

  • Ninja

    Sorry for the engrish. *taken away* and *measures they have been taking*

    EDIT BUTTON PLS TF T_T

  • DanielRemains

    No piracy = no advertising = no new bands getting known = less buys.

  • reasoned-brein

    and i want brein to go swimming in the sewer

  • SewerSurf

    “Your response is awaiting moderation.”

    “Your response is awaiting moderation.”

    seriously dont do that ever again…last time im gonna say it.
    meanwhile im posting what i wrote again.

    and i want brein to go swimming in the sewer.

  • Timid Kuik

    Is the TPB Sunde lawsuit against Tim Kuik for defamation, slander and libel still going on?

    http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founders-sue-brein-for-slander-and-abuse-090723/

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  • Unauthorized Content Consumer

    Ok BREIN dead corporations, let me end piracy forever…

    *crosses arms and blinks eyes*

    Oops it didn’t work. And that was the only magical solution I had.

    Okay. Back to my bluray rip sharing off a neighbours unsecured wireless. xD

  • Borderline Voter

    “demanding that the company ceases to offer copyright material or face fines of 50,000 euros per day.”

    No one should be able to threaten another company that is not breaking the law with fines if they do not do what they want.

    In reality it is the copyholders who facilite copyright infringment by pushing their work in a public place

  • AnarchyNow

    If usenet providers stat filtering, they will go out of business, it’s rather the time for the worse than nazi record/movie industry to go out of business instead of being leaches who kill millions of people a year just because they’re too poor to pay anything.

  • Reasoned Mind

    @AnarchyNow, nice name you fool. Pay the prices, do without or die for all I care, if you can’t pay anything.

    At the moment it’s just the content industries you are ripping off, but the government losing their taxes is catching up and soon the entire world will be sick of your thieving free-for-all and you’ll be marginalized forever going forward. The internet will mirror the real world and there is NOTHING AnarchyNow lol can ever do about it. Suck on that for awhile.

  • DM

    im sure if someone actually owned the internet they would be sued and shut down by now

  • UsenetReviewz

    Agreed, Usenet is far from dead and with new innovations like unzbin and usenet + vpn systems just as one quick example – Usenet is growing – and gaining momentum

    http://usenetreviewz.com

  • Anonymous

    BREIN’S brains are in theis ass every time they sit down they make shit of them!! hahahahaha wheres the rum i’m thirsty for more downloads, these american wanna rule the world corp’s can kiss my ass!! and the funny thing is there no difference between their ass and the one on their shoulders, Fake and Gay corps.

  • Zippy

    From Dutch website webwereld:

    ‘News Service CEO Schreurs says they are unaware of illegal activities on their servers, but meanwhile he removed the tags ‘pirate’ and ‘ ftd lover’ from his twitter profile…’

    Quite funny (and dumb if you ask me).

  • Fedelatio

    Still using TorrentLeech.org for all my stuff; no need for UseNet !

  • Resoned Mind

    Usenet eh?
    I like alt.binaries.trannies

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