Comments on: Britain Mulls Turning 7 Million Into Download Criminals

By: Bifter

Bifter — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:37:38 +0000

Was there any point in Stephen Carter producing the Digital Britain report when the policy was going to be decided at the Rothschild family mansion in Corfu?!

I’m paying taxes, what am I buyin’
- James Brown

Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?
- Johnny Rotten

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
- Roger Daltrey

By: A.N. Other Victim

A.N. Other Victim — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:34:38 +0000

After a failed atempt From a solicitors in london to sue me for illegal sharing of their work an allegation that was completely un founded and after the PRS FORCED my company to pay for a license to play music in my own work place, why should i have any sympathy for artists,actors and so on? Why when i buy a dvd which then becomes my property should i have to sit through 4-6 trailers before i can watch the film i did pay for? Why do i have to pay the PRS to listen to numerous adverts per day on the radio? Why do i have to endure the many no brainer songs on the radio that the artist knows they will be paid for by the PRS? Does the artist struggling mean they can only afford 2 houses instead of 3 or only one Bentley? Maybe producing quality media and not forcing advertisements and licences on people is a way to stop piracy because lets face it 99% of films,music,games and applications are crap and not worth paying for anyway.

By: Pondering

Pondering — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:19:35 +0000

Many times, over & over in my head, I have thought of ways to peacefully rebel against an oppressive organization with the goal of obtaining the desired results. Those being, the change or outright eradication of tyrannical laws (such as these). So how do you “fight”? Violence is out. You can’t openly oppose a government by using violence for moral & obvious reasons. Too many people would be slaughtered, and win, lose or draw, wounds & atrocities would be inflicted on both sides, that could never heal.
The only conclusion I have come to is this. If enough people banded together, and through the act of breaking certain non-violent & harmless laws (like this law), outright forced a government to arrest & imprison it’s citizens. You would need millions of “offenders” 10-20 million people minimum, but the more the better. How could a government function if it were forced to arrest, try/convict, & imprison a huge portion of it’s population? Who would do their jobs? Who would pay the taxes to build mass prisons & jail them? Who would make up the lost tax revenue of the jailed? The government would have to either figure that out, or simply change the law.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:13:21 +0000

LoL… It’s like saying I can’t let my friend drive my car because it’s not his…. (answering some comment up there).

Now answering the article… Welcome to the new China… lol… UK citizens are quite unlucky… Crappy government and now it’s working against them… Well, shit happens everywhere… Just make sure you don’t put those imbeciles up there next elections….

By: billy bob

billy bob — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:29:06 +0000

let me first just say I’m against the whole thing.

BUT – I say this this whole thing go thru. Let the Queen or whoever mandate that 7 million citizens are in violation of this truely heinous of crimes. let them ALL be brought up on charges. Let them ALL refuse to pay the fines.

Then let’s see what happens when the brittish government tries to incarcerate 7 million extra people all at once in the probably already over-flowing prisons in the UK as it is -with all the murderers and rapists and armed robbers.

Oh yeah – this will be fun.

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By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:44:38 +0000

Definitively, some of these p2p sites are hypocrites. Playing two roles, with the MAFFIA and the filesharing movement… Shame on you, TF.

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:37:35 +0000

Why are you OPENLY violating my right to freedom of speech? cowards!!!

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:35:46 +0000

Already are 3 of my comments that are being moderated, the heck, I demand from you a response!!!!

Why are you violating my right to freedom of speech?

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:31:07 +0000

Why the heck my comments are being moderated?

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:30:01 +0000

I mean, I don’t see any harmful comments from entertainment industry delinquents moderated. Are you playing two roles here? One, with the MAFIAA; and the other with the net neutrality movement?

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:24:05 +0000

Thank you TF, thank you for censorship my comments. Are you doing agreements with the MAFIAA?

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:21:53 +0000

98 (A victim) said:
It isn’t the governemnet that turned downloaders into criminals. It is the fact that they vioate the rights of others.
————-

Are you so im.be.cile as for insinuating that 7 millions of citizens are criminals by the only fact of exerting their legitimate right to share information and culture with others?

Sharing my possessions with others is my legitimate right as person, and there doesn’t exist any reason
for giving to music or movies a different treatment.

By: ghdf

ghdf — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:56:40 +0000

Mandelson as prime minister LOLOLOLOLOL, who makes this sh1t up –

remember folks this man is a thief, and loves money, only in the UK could you be a sacked politician on multiple occasions for criminal thievery that would get us locked up and end up in the house of Lords (supose its fitting seeing as the rest there are either inbred robber barons, or criminals too)

if it lines his pocket it will happen – quickly

By: Kiserd12

Kiserd12 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:17:14 +0000

I am beginning to think that people who right racist messages are in fact a ploy by anti-piracy organisations to try and label us racist, it is the type of disgusting things they would do.

By: Name Here

Name Here — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:21:38 +0000

Three letters V P N

By: Coactum

Coactum — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:50:57 +0000

I hope they do take a harder stance. Fuel the fire, fat cats!

By: chilepete

chilepete — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:39:41 +0000

He’s got about as much chance of being the next prime minister as I have!

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By: Dipper

Dipper — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:46:10 +0000

If 7 million are convicted then they simply will not buy any further music/movies and where will that leave the Corp types. Poor and out of buiness and the goverment will be out of power due to civil unrest.

By: CDR levy of canada

CDR levy of canada — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:22:06 +0000

just give more publicity to it all and refuse to stop pirating when they have to arrest 7 million people is when shit gets fun
HAHA
THEY KNOW ITS UNENFORCEABLE
FOOK EM

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:08:52 +0000

My response is awaiting moderation… cool.. that a lot of hypocrisy exists here. Freedom of speech?? Bu.llshit

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:05:20 +0000

98 (A victim) said:
“It isn’t the governemnet that turned downloaders into criminals. It is the fact that they vioate the rights of others.”
—————–

Are you so imbecile as for insinuating that 7 millions of citizens are criminals only by the fact of exerting their legitimate and legal right to share information and culture with others?

BTW, I don’t see as sharing my possessions with others could be considered a crime… Could you explain me?

By: anoldwiseun

anoldwiseun — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:39:10 +0000

A Criminal is a Criminal no matter what the Crime. It is suggested in your article that a Fine of £50,000 could be imposed. Is that for what many of us do, record a film, a musical while we are out, or perhaps looking at another programme?
Perhaps Mr Mandelson and the Government ought to be reminded that we have a Constitution-they should know because they have just used Article 1X of the Bill of Rights 1689 to protect themselves in the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009. However, I remind them that our Declaration and Bill of Rights 1688/9 makes clear, “That excessive bail ought not to be required; nor excessive fines imposed; nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted”. I think that then, rules out such as a £50,000 fine.

By: James

James — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:27:59 +0000

I think Lord Mandelson just wants to be in the news for a few days.

:( shame my bitter hatred towards this man is growing.

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By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:06:10 +0000

What im really starting to wonder is.. why are all these countries like freaking out about P2P and yet USA hasn’t really done a whole lot about it..

It seems like the U.S is never in TF news.. I thought U.S would be the first to do everything insane to file sharers..

anybody else kinda wondering that?

By: Wally

Wally — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:38:20 +0000

Why is it that the Rothschilds and Zionists (like Spielberg) are the root cause of removal of our liberties. GOD, I hate them!!!!!!

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:19:55 +0000

First of all i am wondering how much money is payed to the government people, directly or indirectly (think, a trip to greece)…

Secondly, how can the movie industry have this much influence on a government? Definition of government is a group of people elected by all to REPRESENT the people… are they REPRESENTING the people here?

By: A Victim

A Victim — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:58:09 +0000

Kind of like saying “Government turns thousands of men that have sex without permission into rapists by passing law against rape.”

It isn’t the governemnet that turned downloaders into criminals. It is the fact that they vioate the rights of others.

Look, behind all your lame excuses and rationalizations, you are simply bad people that don’t give a damn about the wrokers.

By: Irritation

Irritation — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:55:01 +0000

So by stopping me downloading you think I’m going to go to the cinema, buy a CD or a DVD?
THINK AGAIN
What do you think we did before torrent came along?????????
Please yourself Mr “Business” Secretary but cast your mind back to ET. You’ll never stop piracy – you can’t even stop a ship in the English Channel these days – Doh!

By: Fugasmic

Fugasmic — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:44:18 +0000

1. Labour haven’t got the slightest hope in hell of winning the next election anyway.

2. Even if they did, I am highly doubtful that Brown will let Mandelson take them into it, and he is so unpopular in Britain, he would never get voted for even if he was the labour leader.

3. The Nazi Facist fucktards of the BNP who seem to troll every comment section where a British politian is mentioned need to fuck off and get gangraped by a undersexed pack of rottweilers while standing naked in their jackboots. Pricks

By: louisfriend

louisfriend — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:26:16 +0000

lol, BNP trolls are so stupid its truly remarkable.

BRITAIN
NEEDS
PIRATES

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:42:11 +0000

The politicians are not solely to blame for this, I blame the people voting for them. I’ll be voting BNP.

By: Eloquence

Eloquence — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:45 +0000

Bilderberg. That’s all you need to know. Google it

By: Crim

Crim — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:09 +0000

I wonder if they would deport the 7 million people to OZ? Actually, make that 7 million + 1.

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By: Mark A

Mark A — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:05:03 +0000

Nu Liebore are on their last legs anyway in the UK – Mandelson will never get to be PM of this country unless a coup is organized before the general elections in 2010. If Labour get in again then it will be pure electoral fraud.

They have turned this country into a multicultural slum, a snoopers society where the only people who benefit are conniving politicians and quango’s.

Mandelson is a snide, full stop.

By: Pierre the frnech in Sweden

Pierre the frnech in Sweden — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:59:15 +0000

And what about the millionaires in France, UK, US etc. who put their billions in tax havens (see New York Times articles) ?
When I see all the energy spent by governments all over the western world to catch guys who download 1 dollar songs, I am floored…
see, fiscal evasion is recurent and 45 Billion euros are lost in France only, every year.
New laws agains pornography, pedodphily and illegal download are another step toward global surveillance of ALL communications and ALL citizens to destroy opposition or democraty and debate.

Our system is worse than communism. It pretends it is free but the choice you have is to buy a box of peanut from Kraft or a box from Nestle.
This is called corporatocracy.
Law makers, political parties are financed by big businesses, so in turn law makers create new laws to protect the big corporations… in the detriment of you and me, the CITIZENS.
Have a good day.

By: Mr Innocent

Mr Innocent — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:49:28 +0000

Errrm…no worries over Mandy People, he told sky news the other day in an interview on a fast train in the east midlands that as he is a LIFE peer in the house of lords he cannot be the next prime minister…he also said that if he WAS then it would take a lot of laws to be changed regarding the house of lords and having a peerage…so either he is secretly wanting to be the next PM in which case you will see a lot of new laws coming in under the back door or he is telling the truth and doesnt care…myself i would go for option A and fully expect the laws to be amended specially for this to happen…sly bunch politicians aint they ;)

By: Kiserd12

Kiserd12 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:24:31 +0000

Nu labour only seem to listen to rich celebrities and wealthy busniess people

By: Pistol

Pistol — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:16:51 +0000

Not sure what gives Mandelson power to comment on file sharing when he doesn’t even know who Michael Jackson is?

http://pistol.tumblr.com/post/132232481/the-full-transcript-of-george-parkers-interview

By: Mickey

Mickey — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:14:00 +0000

Mandy has no chance of being the next Prime Minister – the tories will win the next election, but seeing as they couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery – file sharing peeps should have nowt to worry about.

By: UNKNOWN

UNKNOWN — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:11:39 +0000

Why the hell wont the British public vote for UKIP instead instead of the main parties you never learn.

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By: Kiserd12

Kiserd12 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:34:47 +0000

@68

Its not the monarchy causing the problem here. its unelected governments and rich americans forcing their will on the rest of the uk against its will.

By: lisa

lisa — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:21:00 +0000

Finally we will be able to feed my child descent food and gibe her good education ..!
if you where in the music business and suffer from record sales droping 80 percent and seing your album leaking free in the net months before release date you would simpathise with us.

maybe not many people would be paying this fines but the new policy will scare the new generation and they will start buying music again and thinking differently

it takes thousands to make an album . millions to make a movie , months or years to promote it ect
why music or movies is suddenly considered OK to be free ?

music as movies are necessary and should be considered as profesions not hobbies

as a profesional musician :
we only can make money from touring now and that becomes very tough when you have a family!

wake up people and dont think only about the poor people that will be fined for stealing …

think about the artist that have put all their life into something and dont get anything and even quit their dreams due to piracy..
yes being a musician can take decades and is not light work either..
we need our record sales back together with motivation to create more music!

By: RD1

RD1 — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:05:15 +0000

I was watching ” The boat that rocked ” last night.

Exept for the distribution method , we are still fighting the same fight.

By: twzz

twzz — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:54:06 +0000

Mandleson is quite the odious and far removed ‘centre rightist’ there is. This is typical of how he views governing. Via luxury lunches with the very wealthy in private villas in remote locations. Mandleson’s style is very much ‘i-know-whats-good-for-you-so-shut-up’ Blairitism magnified by x 100.000.

It’s also part of his perosnality that he sees it as his right and personal fate & destiny to rule Britian (and why didn’t any of you know that so bow down to me now and know your place)

He is NO man-of-the-people despite being gay and having a father who was big in British leftwing politics.